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Who here considers themselves to be socially liberal yet fiscally conservative. If you are, try to explain why. If you aren't, please try to refrain from making stupid comments.

Who here considers themselves to be socially liberal yet fiscally conservative. If you are, try to explain why. If you aren't, please try to refrain from making stupid comments.
i'm a classic liberal, which is basically equivalent to what you describe. i believe in minimal government in all areas, with the government existing ONLY to prevent human beings from directly interfering with each other (rape, murder, theft, etc) and to oversee necessary public services (police, fire, etc) .

i believe the government should not be parenting its citizens, because i believe each adult human is responsible for themselves, and thus the government should not be regulating personal decisions like drug use, sexual partners, or medical care. i also believe the government should not try to enforce artificial economic "equality" by redistributing wealth, but should merely act to ensure that nobody is stealing or obtaining wealth through illegal activities.

i don't know if that answers your question, but there it is.

What do you mean by fiscal conservative?

Who here considers themselves to be socially liberal yet fiscally conservative. If you are, try to explain why. If you aren't, please try to refrain from making stupid comments.

I suppose that applies to me. I'm deeply mistrustful of "pork" spending and favoritism, I appreciate business and have a fair amount of faith in market solutions. Thus, Fiscal conservatism. I dislike the government wasting its money, I do not dislike the government spending money.

I do not see any point in the government mandating social behavior beyond the most basic property and life/liberty-respecting rules. I do believe it is in the government's interest to help its population be healthy and educated, and see to it that the law respects all citizens equally.

From that belief stems my assertion that there should be programs that aid students, workers, non-workers (children, the elderly, etc). I believe in enviornmental and workplace protections for both worker and consumer, and in standards of safety and healthcare. Thus, socially liberal.

i'm a classic liberal, which is basically equivalent to what you describe. i believe in minimal government in all areas, with the government existing ONLY to prevent human beings from directly interfering with each other (rape, murder, theft, etc) and to oversee necessary public services (police, fire, etc) .

i believe the government should not be parenting its citizens, because i believe each adult human is responsible for themselves, and thus the government should not be regulating personal decisions like drug use, sexual partners, or medical care. i also believe the government should not try to enforce artificial economic "equality" by redistributing wealth, but should merely act to ensure that nobody is stealing or obtaining wealth through illegal activities.

i don't know if that answers your question, but there it is.
Do you know what liberal means? That is a very conservative view. You are quite right-winged. Though you may be culturally liberal, I don't know, but you're opinoin on government is not liberal. Sorry for being redundant, but I had to get my point through in any way I could.

Do you know what liberal means? That is a very conservative view. You are quite right-winged. Though you may be culturally liberal, I don't know, but you're opinoin on government is not liberal. Sorry for being redundant, but I had to get my point through in any way I could.
actually, the meaning of liberal has been changed radically over the last century, and CLASSIC liberalism is exactly what i described. modern liberalism, especially in America, bears as little resemblence to classic liberalism as does modern conservativism.

What do you mean by fiscal conservative?
I think it means like balancing budget. Not being okay with deficiets. Being against Pork barrel spending and more.
Making sure what ever you do you have a way to pay for it.

Personally I've never undersood the terms conservative and liberal because recently the terms mean squat.
Conservatives are okay with deficiets but not Liberals who want a balanced budget.
Conservatives want government regulating behavior and acting like a parent regarding marriage or sex, but Liberals want freedom in certain areas.
Both allow drugs to be regulated however due to danger thereof.

I claim to have the priviledge of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of my own conscience. And allow all men the same privilege. Let them worship how, where, or what they may.

I do think Government should regulate drugs and things but this gay marriage thing is weird. They don't even give Civil Unions the same respect and abilities. I think that would be one thing to make Civil Unions the only uniting force. Retroactively all previous marriages are now Civil unionms. Marriage is just a extra title by churches. Everyone should get civil unions to be united by the civil government. But that is just me. Therefor gays cannot ask for marriage because of unequal representation. It is not the legal courts issue. Its the churches issue and that is not in the courts power. That way religious folk do not get upset that gays have the ability to be united. And everyone is equal before the law.

Not favoring businesses due to their habit to care more for profit than workers. But favoring the market itself I can.

Wish to have respect restored around world. While do not need every country's "okay" to do anything: We should do our best to listen to other's compaints and think whether they are reasonable.

Against Preemption strikes due to bad precedence they stand for. We lose our high ground when we don't allow others to do likewise. Thus lowering respect and so I'm against that.

So I guess I'm moderately social liberal. Moderately fiscial Conservative. I think most democrats are though :)