NationStates Jolt Archive


29 year anniversary of the fall of Angola

Roach-Busters
12-11-2004, 00:21
29 years ago, Marxist-Leninist gangsters imposed a bloody, totalitarian dictatorship upon the people of Angola. Below are photos of some of the methods these monsters used to attain power. They committed these barbarous atrocities against both blacks and whites.

http://www.africancrisis.Org/photos9.asp
Von Witzleben
12-11-2004, 00:25
29 years ago, Marxist-Leninist gangsters imposed a bloody, totalitarian dictatorship upon the people of Angola. Below are photos of some of the methods these monsters used to attain power. They committed these barbarous atrocities against both blacks and whites.

http://www.africancrisis.Org/photos9.asp
I think this was the only time Cuban troops were deployed in an actual war.
Roach-Busters
12-11-2004, 00:29
I think this was the only time Cuban troops were deployed in an actual war.

Yup. The South Africans were just a day away from victory when traitor Vorster withdrew them. Of course, the "anticommunist" (sarcasm) U.S. did absolutely nothing.
Von Witzleben
12-11-2004, 00:42
Yup. The South Africans were just a day away from victory when traitor Vorster withdrew them. Of course, the "anticommunist" (sarcasm) U.S. did absolutely nothing.
Sure they did. They supported the South African invasion of Angola. Promising US military support. And the arrival of Cuban troops was the reason that the South Africans had to withdraw.
Roach-Busters
12-11-2004, 00:42
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Von Witzleben
12-11-2004, 00:45
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Letila
12-11-2004, 00:48
No one ever said Marxist-Leninists were nice, although I know a Marxist who isn't really about dictatorships. He advocates a democratic transition state instead.
Roach-Busters
12-11-2004, 00:50
Sure they did. They supported the South African invasion of Angola. Promising US military support. And the arrival of Cuban troops was the reason that the South Africans had to withdraw.

Actions speak louder than words. The U.S. has made lots of empty promises to anticommunists, and broke all of them. Here's a list of many of the anticommunists the U.S. has betrayed:

Chiang Kai-shek; Draza Mihailovich; Stanislaw Mikolajczyk; Syngman Rhee; Ian Smith; Fulgencio Batista; Anastasio Somoza; Alfredo Stroessner; P.W. Botha; Lucas Mangope; Prince Buthelezi; the Shah of Iran; Ferdinand Marcos; Bao Dai; Le Van Vien; Boun Oum; Lon Nol; Nguyen Cao Ky; Nguyen Van Thieu; Thanom Kittitakchorn; King Faisal; Rafael Trujillo; Suharto; Augusto Pinochet; and many, many more.

(Yes, I realize a large number of them were brutal dictators, but many of them were replaced by even worse dictators)
Roach-Busters
12-11-2004, 00:50
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It was supposed to be a bump, but I didn't see your post.
Roach-Busters
12-11-2004, 00:51
No one ever said Marxist-Leninists were nice, although I know a Marxist who isn't really about dictatorships. He advocates a democratic transition state instead.

I know. Many communists and Marxists are not thugs (many, such as yourself, are decent, sane, non-violent, peaceful people), but just as many if not more are monsters, such as the beasts who enslaved Angola were.
Von Witzleben
12-11-2004, 00:52
Actions speak louder than words. The U.S. has made lots of empty promises to anticommunists, and broke all of them. Here's a list of many of the anticommunists the U.S. has betrayed:

Chiang Kai-shek; Draza Mihailovich; Stanislaw Mikolajczyk; Syngman Rhee; Ian Smith; Fulgencio Batista; Anastasio Somoza; Alfredo Stroessner; P.W. Botha; Lucas Mangope; Prince Buthelezi; the Shah of Iran; Ferdinand Marcos; Bao Dai; Le Van Vien; Boun Oum; Lon Nol; Nguyen Cao Ky; Nguyen Van Thieu; Thanom Kittitakchorn; King Faisal; Rafael Trujillo; Suharto; Augusto Pinochet; and many, many more.

(Yes, I realize a large number of them were brutal dictators, but many of them were replaced by even worse dictators)
The Shi'ites in south Iraq after the first oil...eerm..gulf war.
Roach-Busters
12-11-2004, 00:53
Sure they did. They supported the South African invasion of Angola. Promising US military support. And the arrival of Cuban troops was the reason that the South Africans had to withdraw.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Cubans arrive after Vorster ordered the South African troops to withdraw?
Letila
12-11-2004, 00:55
I know. Many communists and Marxists are not thugs (many, such as yourself, are decent, sane, non-violent, peaceful people), but just as many if not more are monsters, such as the beasts who enslaved Angola were.

I'm not really a Marxist, as I don't totally subscribe to much of Marx's theories. I'm an anarchist.
Von Witzleben
12-11-2004, 00:57
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Cubans arrive after Vorster ordered the South African troops to withdraw?
No. They were send to aid the marxist Angolan government after the South African invasion.