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I was reading Google news about two hours ago and noticed that Yasser Arafat is dead. Israeli's and Americans quoted in the article sounded happy to hear the news of his death, The french and the PLO both made statements in regret to hear of his death. That I was wondering is how do you think that this will affect the middle east peace process?

Maybe now it can start.

Yea. He has always been an obstacle in the peace process over their. Their are Palestinian leaders who want peace and are more reasonable then he was. Hopefully one of them comes to power but I doubt it.

I was reading Google news about two hours ago and noticed that Yasser Arafat is dead. Israeli's and Americans quoted in the article sounded happy to hear the news of his death, The french and the PLO both made statements in regret to hear of his death. That I was wondering is how do you think that this will affect the middle east peace process?
it might get worse it mgiht get better, it probably wont change. they are lucky he wasnt assassinated, that wouldve put the escalator on high

Wait for the conspirancy theories to start, killed by Mossad/CIA/MI6 :sniper:

FIRST, warning I have locked 4 thread's on Arafat, keep your hate out of this thread or it will follow the same path. - Stephanie - Game Moderator


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I think they'll be wishing for Arafat back. I think the fundi's will take over in the vacuum left in leadership by Arafat. It's just a guess.

Maybe now it can start.
Good point. I hope the new Palestinian leader is progressive in that.

I think that Yasser Arafat was just a escuse for Israel not to start the conversations about peace.

I really want it open the chances for peace, but it's hard to be optimist at the middle east.

Wait for the conspirancy theories to start, killed by Mossad/CIA/MI6 :sniper:
My friend believes the Israelis poisoned him.

*sings* Ding dong the witch is dead...

But anyway, hopefully the Palestinians and Israelis can make some sort of progress now. I don't think Arafat was encouraging the terrorists, but I don't think he was doing enough to stop them.

My friend believes the Israelis poisoned him.

And I'm sure he/she also thinks that we never landed on the moon and that OJ was framed by the police.

Let's all hope for the best possible outcome in light of Mr. Arafat's passing. Olive branches, somebody...anybody. Surely now is a good time to resolve inequities with pens, not guns.

I think the Palestinian terrorists have been so brainwashed and so unapposed for so long that no amount of good leadership will change much for awhile.

My friend believes the Israelis poisoned him.
How it's always Israel's fault? why people can't explain things in other ways than "Israel did that"?
he's old man. in the conditions he live he had luck, because he didn't die years ago.

[QUOTE=Crossman]*sings* Ding dong the witch is dead...
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Cold, dude. Even with the conciliatory second paragraph. I can't get behind that...

The Empire of Presidency sends its condolences.

I think the Palestinian terrorists have been so brainwashed and so unapposed for so long that no amount of good leadership will change much for awhile.
Probably so, although thats sad to think about

My friend believes the Israelis poisoned him.Israel has been assassinating Palestinean Leaders all over the Place...They also target Palestinean Doctors and Engineers...They Even assassinated a Canadian Engineer.

How it's always Israel's fault? why people can't explain things in other ways than "Israel did that"?
he's old man. in the conditions he live he had luck, because he didn't die years ago.


Becuase the world hates us, my friend.


Baruch dayan haemet.
Blessed is the true judge.

Today the Lord's judgement has been brought down upon a heinously evil man, and the Lord final wrought His final judgment upon him.

Because Israel is the source of all evil...:-P

As I said to my friend, Yasser Arafat might be the only Palestinian in a position of power to have died of natural causes, and not a cruise missile to the head. Hehe.

But no, I'm a stern supporter of Israel, and I'm happy that Arafat, a man who was more interested in power than in peace, is dead. FINALLY!

Finally, the little **** is dead. 75 years to late but its finally happened. My theory is that he's been brain-dead since he was born.

Like many in the Middle East (both real and the region "Middle East") I mourn the passing of a great man. In my own words "The least crazy foreign extremeist in a region of foreign extremists. Not saying a lot, but he was a damn sight better than the other losers out there".

Seems to me too many people are concentrating on the fact he's dead, the important issue is what this means for the rest of the Middle East. Indeed it is probably accurate to say as previously mentioned that he was seeming to neither help the terroists nor go against them. Now we'll probably see politics at its height start moving to try and get the most out of the situation, with the west attempting to get a peace progress going while with the East...well, who knows?

The world has lost another fine man, one who was willing to stand up against powerful opposition in order to pursue his goal, no matter what the odds. We are poorer for having lost him.

Yay...Arafat's dead. Now if only we could get all of the rest of the people who wear funny hats to dipomatic events to die, the world would be a better place.

Unfortunately, this will do absolutely nothing to hasten the peace process. Even if the Palestinians put a true moderate in Arafat's place, at Bush and Israel's pressuring, there will never be peace in Palestine. In order to get peace, you'd have to get a Palestinian leader to admit that Israel has a right to exist as a free state. Any Palestinian that did that would get assassinated in such a horrible way to make the death of Malcolm X look like a friendly love-tap.

Sorry to be a realist(Cynic).

Finally, the little **** is dead. 75 years to late but its finally happened. My theory is that he's been brain-dead since he was born.

Sanctaphrax, you'll just get this thread ilocked with stuff like that. Stephistan has been pretty consistent in her insistence on this matter.

C'mon. If you're happy, don't spoil it by being crass.

*sings* Ding dong the witch is dead...

But anyway, hopefully the Palestinians and Israelis can make some sort of progress now. I don't think Arafat was encouraging the terrorists, but I don't think he was doing enough to stop them.


Hmm......no. there is no leader in the palistinian comunity that is as interested in peace that Arafat was.
How was he supposed to stop them ask them nicely?

I think that ther will be forty days of peace following Arafaths death(R.I.P)
and then forty years of more bloodshed
:mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :eek:

Israel has been assassinating Palestinean Leaders all over the Place...They also target Palestinean Doctors and Engineers...They Even assassinated a Canadian Engineer.


Palestine uses suicide bombers on public transport to kill indiscriminatly :mp5:

Well, to all you haters of Arafat:
Because he has been in power for so long, he brought relative stability to the Palestinian government. I agree that he was not the best compromiser. But the existence of Israel (okay, Israel except the purchased parts) was forced onto Palestinians by Britain and the UN. And as Arafat was born before that event, I think you can trace his hesitation in approving the existence of Israel as a nation. He was one of the best leaders Palestine could have.

Becuase the world hates us, my friend.

Baruch dayan haemet.
Blessed is the true judge.

Today the Lord's judgement has been brought down upon a heinously evil man, and the Lord final wrought His final judgment upon him.

I do not mean to be racist/religionist, but here you are reinforcing the stereotype usually placed on the Jews. (Placed because of the Talmud) You are saying that there are chosen special people before God, and there are also people chosen to die.
Rejoicing at someone's death is heinosly evil!
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Be his soul blessed on the path beyond!

Becuase the world hates us, my friend.


Baruch dayan haemet.
Blessed is the true judge.

Today the Lord's judgement has been brought down upon a heinously evil man, and the Lord final wrought His final judgment upon him.

Swop lord for allah :mp5:

I woonder if his funeral will be as wacky as ayatolla Khomeni - anyone remember that?

Hmm......no. there is no leader in the palistinian comunity that is as interested in peace that Arafat was.

Either there is a strange truth in your statement... or you have been smoking large quantities of crack cocaine, my friend.

The strange truth may be this: there is no leader in the Palestinian community who is as interested in peace as Arafat was, because Arafat was not interested in peace AT ALL... and there are one or maybe even two others who are. Arafat's negotiating technique was very simple. He would sit there and say 'NO', over and over again, refusing everything that was offered him. After the Oslo agreement, he called his goons and ordered them to prepare for war against Israel, not against the IDF, but against women and children, including any Palestinian civilians that got in his way.

Abbas, the new leader of the PLO, was an architect of the Oslo agreement and has shown far more interest in peace than ARAFAT DID IN HIS ENTIRE, FILTHY BLOODSTAINED LIFE.

Let's hope for everyone's sake he can deliver on the promise he has shown so far - little, but anything's better than Arafat.

Palestine uses suicide bombers on public transport to kill indiscriminatly :mp5:

Yep, the whole country. :mad:

All the Americans, the British, and the Israelis bomb civilians then. And bombs dropped from planes really do kill without discrimination.

The world is rid of a terrorist

Yep, the whole country. :mad:

All the Americans, the British, and the Israelis bomb civilians then. And bombs dropped from planes really do kill without discrimination.

Wow... where to start ripping this one to bits. Firstly, there is no Palestine - it has never existed as a country and 'Palestinians' only exist as a mindset, like fascists or communists or Moonies. Secondly, the US, UK and Israel make active efforts to avoid civilians casualties at all times, whereas Palestinian terrorists make active efforts to maximise civilian casualties at all times.

I understand the modishness of moral relativism, but if you're going to be amoral at least try to be logical.

Abbas, the new leader of the PLO, was an architect of the Oslo agreement and has shown far more interest in peace than ARAFAT DID IN HIS ENTIRE, FILTHY BLOODSTAINED LIFE.

Remember the Columbia Shuttle crash? Remember there was an Israeli on board? That guy was an evil "person"
He boasted being one of the pilots who bombed Palestinians. It is a fact.
Let's rejoice his death! Anyone up for it?

Remember the Columbia Shuttle crash? Remember there was an Israeli on board? That guy was an evil "person"
He boasted being one of the pilots who bombed Palestinians. It is a fact.
Let's rejoice his death! Anyone up for it?

Sure, we can pass out candies and dance in the streets like the Palestinians did after 9/11.

/sarcasm

Let's now hope that Sharon is defeated in the next election--then perhaps we can have peace.

Wow... where to start ripping this one to bits. Firstly, there is no Palestine - it has never existed as a country and 'Palestinians' only exist as a mindset, like fascists or communists or Moonies. Secondly, the US, UK and Israel make active efforts to avoid civilians casualties at all times, whereas Palestinian terrorists make active efforts to maximise civilian casualties at all times.

I understand the modishness of moral relativism, but if you're going to be amoral at least try to be logical.

Oh yeah, of course they try not make civilian casualties!! Look at this: a powerful country is invading the town you live in. They shoot a rocket at the Town House (Town Hall, Capitol Building, whatever). The blast destroys everything about. Imagine a real missile blast. Not the one you see on TV or in a video game.

In World War II, USA killed the most civilians (after Germany and Japan of course) of all. The bombings of Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki.
Same in Vietnam - about a million people, plus diseased and deleafed forests and wildlife.
Same in Iraq - 100 thousand civilians and counting.

And stop saying that "the Palestinians" blow up buses. The term "terrorist" is broad enough.

Let's now hope that Sharon is defeated in the next election--then perhaps we can have peace.

Thank, you.
Israel needs to make up less new restrictions in order for the Palestinian leaders to sign treaties with less benefits for them.

Damn, I swear some of you have a heart that does not beat, so cold. iLock

Stephanie
Game Moderator