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this is for people who like Y arafat

JAMES DOYLE
11-11-2004, 15:07
Arafat is great and his a great adversery for palistions
Momanguise
11-11-2004, 15:09
w00t for the palistions!

Wrong forum by the way, try general.
Godular
11-11-2004, 15:18
What's a palistion?
DeaconDave
11-11-2004, 15:21
What's a palistion?

it's a listions father. :)
Stephistan
11-11-2004, 15:22
May he rest in peace. It's certainly the end of an era. I predict that they'll be wishing for Arafat back when they see what is to follow him. Just a guess.
OceanDrive
11-11-2004, 16:56
Yasser Arafat... larger than life...
Even Newer Talgania
11-11-2004, 17:07
Arafat was nothing but a murdering terrorist thug. He committed or authorized terrorist acts. He embezzled BILLIONS from the savage tribes he supposedly "cared" so much about. Their lives could have been SO much better if not for Arafat's murderous greed. I hope there are AP photographers in HELL, because I'd love to see a picture of his face when he meets Satan instead of his non-existent allah (piss be upon him). He was probably hoping his promised virgins would be little boys.
Gaza Strip
11-11-2004, 17:18
Arafat was nothing but a murdering terrorist thug. He committed or authorized terrorist acts. He embezzled BILLIONS from the savage tribes he supposedly "cared" so much about. Their lives could have been SO much better if not for Arafat's murderous greed. I hope there are AP photographers in HELL, because I'd love to see a picture of his face when he meets Satan instead of his non-existent allah (piss be upon him). He was probably hoping his promised virgins would be little boys.

Well said *applauds*
OceanDrive
11-11-2004, 17:20
Arafat was nothing but a murdering terrorist thug.A Jewish's terrorist is an Arab Freedom Fighter...
Conceptualists
11-11-2004, 17:22
He embezzled BILLIONS from the savage tribes he supposedly "cared" so much about

How exactly do 'savages' amass billions?
Sukafitz
11-11-2004, 17:23
Yasser Arafat was known as the man who brought modern terrorism to the world. From the age of 17 he began his efforts to bring worldwide attention to the Palestinian cause.

He sent agents to kidnap 11 Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympic Games and eventually killed them all.

He ordered a terrorist attack against a school bus full of children that killed two and wounded 28.

Yasser's men seized a local school, taking more than 100 boys and girls hostage and threatening to kill them unless a number of imprisoned terrorists were released. When Israeli troops attempted a rescue, the terrorists exploded hand grenades and opened fire on the students. By the time the horror ended, 25 people were dead; 21 of them were children.

He would commonly blow airliners out of the sky, bomb schools and pizzerias, and machine-gun passengers in airline terminals.

In a 1988, address, Arafat accepted UN Security Council Resolution 242, promised future recognition of Israel, and renounced “terrorism in all its forms, including state terrorism.”

In 1989, Arafat was elected by the Central Council of the Palestine National Council (the governing body of the PLO) to be the president of the proclaimed State of Palestine.

In 1990, the Arafat ordered the attacks of the beaches near Tel Aviv, aiming to raid hotels and the U.S. Embassy.

Despite Arafat’s pledges, violence continued throughout the end of the decade, with more than 100 Israelis being killed and 1,000 injured in terrorist attacks.

In a last ditch summit meeting in Camp David with President Clinton; Israel agreed to withdraw from 97% of the West Bank, 100% of the Gaza Strip, dismantle most of the settlements, and create a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital. The only concessions Arafat had to make were to acknowledge Israeli sovereignty over the parts of the Western Wall religiously significant to Jews (that is, not the entire Temple Mount), and to agree to three early warning stations in the Jordan Valley, which Israel would withdraw from after six years.

Arafat rejected it.

A series of horrific terror attacks were carried out over the next several weeks — including two gunmen opening fire on a bus stop, which killed two and wounded injured dozens more; suicide bombings in a pedestrian mall in Jerusalem and two others in Haifa; and a bomb and gunfire attack on a bus. After Israeli Minister of Tourism Rehavam Ze'evi was assassinated, and more than 30 other Israelis were murdered and several hundred were wounded

Somewhere in the middle of all of this (1994) Yasser was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize "for his efforts to create peace in the Middle East".
Torching Witches
11-11-2004, 17:24
I hope there are AP photographers in HELL, because I'd love to see a picture of his face when he meets Satan instead of his non-existent allah (piss be upon him).

And if you're a Jew or Christian then that has implications for you, too, because you all worship the same God, even if you call Him by different names.
Roach-Busters
11-11-2004, 17:27
A Jewish's terrorist is an Arab Freedom Fighter...

And vice versa.
OceanDrive
11-11-2004, 17:28
Yasser Arafat was known as the man ......YES...he was Know....he is Known....and he will be know...for decades and centuries...

Sukafits or any of the Jewish-Lovers cannot hope to ever acomplish that...none of us can...even if we tried for 1000 years...(assuming we could live 10 lifes)
Gaza Strip
11-11-2004, 17:29
Somewhere in the middle of all of this (1994) Yasser was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize "for his efforts to create peace in the Middle East".
A brief history of Arafat's lifetime of murder and bloodlust - the below were carried out either by Arafat or by organisations under his direct control:

– July 5, 1965: A Fatah cell plants explosives at Mitzpe Massua, near Beit Guvrin; and on the railroad tracks to Jerusalem near Kafr Battir.

– 1965-1967: Numerous Fatah bomb attacks target Israeli villages, water pipes, railroads. Homes are destroyed and Israelis are killed.

– July 1968: Fatah joins and becomes the dominant member of the PLO, an umbrella organization of Palestinian terrorist groups.

– Feb. 4, 1969: Arafat is appointed Chairman of the Executive Committee of the PLO

– Feb. 21, 1970: SwissAir flight 330, bound for Tel Aviv, is bombed in mid-flight by PFLP, a PLO member group. 47 people are killed.

– May 8, 1970: PLO terrorists attack an Israeli schoolbus with bazooka fire, killing nine pupils and three teachers from Moshav Avivim

– Sept. 6, 1970: TWA, Pan-Am, and BOAC airplanes are hijacked by PLO terrorists.

– September 1970: Jordanian forces battle the PLO terrorist organization, driving its members out of Jordan after the group's violent activity threatens to destabilize the kingdom. The terrorists flee to Lebanon. This period in PLO history is called “Black September.”

– May 1972: PFLP, part of the PLO, dispatches members of the Japanese Red Army to attack Lod Airport in Tel Aviv, killing 27 people.

– Sept. 5, 1972: Munich Massacre —11 Israeli athletes are murdered at the Munich Olympics by a group calling themselves “Black September,”said to be an arm of Fatah, operating under Arafat's direct command.

– March 1, 1973: Palestinian terrorists take over Saudi embassy in Khartoum. The next day, two Americans –including the United States' ambassador to Sudan, Cleo Noel – and a Belgian were shot and killed. James J. Welsh, an analyst for the National Security Agency from 1969 through 1974, charged Arafat with direct complicity in these murders.

– April 11, 1974: 11 people are killed by Palestinian terrorists who attack apartment building in Kiryat Shmona.

– May 15, 1974: PLO terrorists infiltrating from Lebanon hold children hostage in Ma'alot school. 26 people, 21 of them children, are killed.

– June 9, 1974: Palestinian National Council adopts “Phased Plan,” which calls for the establishment of a Palestinian state on any territory evacuated by Israel, to be used as a base of operations for destroying the whole of Israel. The PLO reaffirms its rejection of United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, which calls for a “just and lasting peace” and the “right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force.”

– November 1974: PLO takes responsibility for the PDFLP's Beit She'an murders in which 4 Israelis are killed.

– Nov. 13, 1974: Arafat, wearing a gun, addresses the U.N. General Assembly.

– March 1975: Members of Fatah attack the Tel Aviv seafront and take hostages in the Savoy hotel. Three soldiers, three civilians and seven terrorists are killed.

– March 1978: Coastal Road Massacre —Fatah terrorists take over a bus on the Haifa-Tel Aviv highway and kill 21 Israelis.

– 1982: Having created a terrorist mini-state in Lebanon destabilizing that nation, PLO is expelled as a result of Israel's response to incessant PLO missile attacks against northern Israeli communities. Arafat relocates to Tunis.

– Oct. 7, 1985: Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro is hijacked by Palestinian terrorists. Wheelchair-bound elderly man, Leon Klinghoffer, was shot and thrown overboard. Intelligence reports note that instructions originated from Arafat's headquarters in Tunis.

– Dec. 12, 1988: Arafat claims to accept Israel's right to exist.

– September 1993: Arafat shakes hands with Israeli Prime Minister Rabin, inaugurating the Oslo Accords. Arafat pledges to stop incitement and terror, and to foster co-existence with Israel, but fails to comply. Throughout the years of negotiations, aside from passing, token efforts, Arafat does nothing to stop Hamas, PFLP, and Islamic Jihad from carrying out thousands of terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians. With Arafat's encouragement and financial support, groups directly under Arafat's command, such as the Tanzim and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, also carry out terror attacks.

– Oct. 21, 1996: Speaking at a rally near Bethlehem, Arafat said "We know only one word - jihad. jihad, jihad, jihad. Whoever does not like it can drink from the Dead Sea or from the Sea of Gaza." (Yediot Ahronot, October 23, 1996)

– April 16, 1998: In a statement published in the official Palestinian Authority newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadeeda, Arafat is quoted: "O my dear ones on the occupied lands, relatives and friends throughout Palestine and the diaspora, my colleagues in struggle and in arms, my colleagues in struggle and in jihad...Intensify the revolution and the blessed intifada...We must burn the ground under the feet of the invaders."

– July 2000: Arafat rejects peace settlement offered by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, which would have led to a Palestinian state.

– September 2000: New "intifada" is launched. Arafat continues to incite, support and fund terrorism.

– Jan. 3, 2002: Israelis intercept the Karine-A, a ship loaded with 50 tons of mortars, rocket launchers, anti-tank mines and other weapons intended for the Palestinian war against the Israelis. The captain admits he was under the command of the Palestinian Authority.

– September 2003: IMF report titled "Economic Performance and Reforms under Conflict Conditions," states that Arafat has diverted $900 million of public PA funds into his own accounts from 1995 - 2000.

Below are some of the attacks since Sept 2000 perpetrated by groups under Arafat's command:

– May 29, 2001: Gilad Zar, an Itamar resident, was shot dead in a terrorist ambush by Fatah Tanzim.

– May 29, 2001: Sara Blaustein, 53, and Esther Alvan, 20, of Efrat, were killed in a drive-by shooting south of Jerusalem. The Fatah Tanzim claimed responsibility for the attack.

– June 18, 2001: Doron Zisserman, 38, shot and killed in his car by Fatah sniper fire.

– Aug 26, 2001: Dov Rosman, 58, killed in a shooting attack by Fatah terrorist.

– Sept 6, 2001: Erez Merhavi, 23, killed in a Fatah Tanzim ambush shooting near Hadera while driving to a wedding.

– Sept 20, 2001: Sarit Amrani, 26, killed by Fatah terrorist snipers as she was traveling in a car with her husband and 3 children.

– Oct 4, 2001: 3 killed, 13 wounded, when a Fatah terrorist, dressed as an Israeli paratrooper, opened fire on Israeli civilians waiting at the central bus station in Afula.

– Nov 27, 2001 - 2 killed 50 injured when two Palestinian terrorists opened fire with Kalashnikov assault rifles on a crowd of people near the central bus station in Afula. Fatah and the Islamic Jihad claimed joint responsibility.

– Nov 29, 2001: 3 killed and 9 wounded in a suicide bombing on an Egged 823 bus en route from Nazereth to Tel Aviv near the city of Hadera. The Islamic Jihad and Fatah claimed responsibility for the attack.

– Dec 12, 2001 - 11 killed and 30 wounded when three terrorists attacked a bus and several passenger cars with a roadside bomb, anti-tank grenades, and light arms fire near the entrance to Emmanuel in Samaria . Both Fatah and Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

– Jan 15, 2002: Avi Boaz, 71, an American citizen, was kidnapped at a PA security checkpoint in Beit Jala. His bullet-riddled body was found in a car near Bethlehem. The Fatah's Al-Aksa Brigade claimed responsibility for the murder.

– Jan 15, 2002: Yoela Chen, 45, was shot dead by an Al Aqsa Brigade terrorist

– Jan 17, 2002: 6 killed, 35 wounded when a Fatah terrorist burst into a bat mitzva reception in a banquet hall in Hadera opening fire with an M-16 assault rifle.

– Jan 22, 2002: 2 killed, 40 injured when a Fatah terrorist opened fire with an M-16 assault rifle near a bus stop in downtown Jerusalem.

– Jan. 27, 2002: One person was killed and more than 150 were wounded by a female Fatah suicide bomber in the center of Jerusalem.

– Feb 6, 2002 - A mother and her 11 year old daughter were murdered in their home by a Palestinian terrorist disguised in an IDF uniform. Both Fatah and Hamas claimed responsibility.

– Feb 18, 2002 : - Ahuva Amergi, 30, was killed and a 60-year old man was injured when a Palestinian terrorist opened fire on her car. Maj. Mor Elraz, 25, and St.-Sgt. Amir Mansouri, 21, who came to their assistance, were killed while trying to intercept the terrorist. The terrorist was killed when the explosives he was carrying were detonated. The Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

– Feb 22, 2002: Valery Ahmir, 59, was killed by terrorists in a Fatah drive-by shooting north of Jerusalem as he returned home from work.

– Feb 25, 2002: Avraham Fish, 65, and Aharon Gorov, 46, were killed in a Fatah terrorist shooting attack south of Bethlehem. Fish's daughter, 9 months pregnant, was seriously injured but delivered a baby girl.

– Feb 25, 2002: Police officer 1st Sgt. Galit Arbiv, 21, died after being fatally shot, when a Fatah terrorist opened fire at a bus stop in the Neve Ya'akov residential neighbhorhood in northern Jerusalem. Eight others were injured.

– Feb 27, 2002: Gad Rejwan, 34, of Jerusalem, was shot and killed by one of his Palestinian employees in a factory north of Jerusalem. Two Fatah groups issued a joint statement taking responsibility for the murder.

– March 2, 2002: A suicide bombing by Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade in an ultra-Orthodox Jewish neighborhood of Jerusalem killed 11 people and injured more than 50.

– Mar 5, 2002: 3 were killed and over 30 people were wounded in Tel-Aviv when a Fatah terrorist opened fire on two adjacent restaurants shortly after 2:00 AM.

– Mar 5, 2002: Devorah Friedman, 45, of Efrat, was killed and her husband injured in a Fatah shooting attack on the Bethlehem bypass "tunnel road", south of Jerusalem.

– Mar 9, 2002: Avia Malka, 9 months, and Israel Yihye, 27, were killed and about 50 people were injured when two Fatah terrorists opened fire and threw grenades at cars and pedestrians in the coastal city of Netanya on Saturday evening, close to the city's boardwalk and hotels.

–March 21, 2002: An Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade suicide bomber exploded himself in a crowd of shoppers in Jerusalem, killing 3 and injuring 86.

– March 29, 2002: Two killed and 28 injured when a female Fatah suicide bomber blew herself up in a Jerusalem supermarket.

– March 30, 2002: One killed and 30 injured in an Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade suicide bombing in Tel Aviv.

– April 12, 2002: Six killed and 104 wounded when a female Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade suicide bomber blew herself up at a bus stop on Jaffa road at the entrance to Jerusalem's Mahane Yehuda open-air market.

– May 27, 2002: Ruth Peled, 56, of Herzliya and her infant granddaughter, aged 14 months, were killed and 37 people were injured when a Fatah suicide bomber detonated himself near an ice cream parlor outside a shopping mall in Petah Tikva.

– May 28, 2002 - Albert Maloul, 50, of Jerusalem, was killed when shots were fired by Fatah terrorists at the car in which he was traveling south on the Ramallah bypass road.

– May 28, 2002 - Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade terrorists killed Netanel Riachi, 17, Gilad Stiglitz, 14, and Avraham Siton, 17, three yeshiva high school students playing basketball.

– June 19, 2002: Seven people were killed and 37 injured when a Fatah suicide bomber blew himself up at a crowded bus stop and hitchhiking post in the French Hill neighborhood of Jerusalem.

– June 20, 2002: Rachel Shabo, 40, and three of her sons - Neria, 16, Zvika, 12, and Avishai, 5 - as well as a neighbor, Yosef Twito, 31, who came to their aid, were murdered when a terrorist entered their home in Itamar, south of Nablus, and opened fire. Two other children were injured, as well as two soldiers. The PFLP and the Fatah Al Aqsa Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

– July 25, 2002: Rabbi Elimelech Shapira, 43, was killed in a Fatah shooting attack near the West Bank community of Alei Zahav.

– July 26, 2002: St.-Sgt. Elazar Lebovitch, 21, of Hebron; Rabbi Yosef Dikstein, 45, of Psagot, his wife Hannah, 42, and their 9-year-old son Shuv'el Zion were killed in a Fatah Al Aqsa Brigade shooting attack south of Hebron. Two other of their children were injured. – July 30, 2002: Shlomo Odesser, 60, and his brother Mordechai, 52, both of Tapuach in Samaria, were shot and killed when their truck came under Fatah fire in the West Bank village of Jama'in.

– Aug 4, 2002: 2 killed and 17 wounded when a Fatah terrorist opened fire with a pistol near the Damascus Gate of Jerusalem's Old City.

– Aug 5, 2002: Avi Wolanski (29) and his wife Avital (27), of Eli, were killed and one of their children, aged 3, was injured when terrorists opened fire on their car as they were traveling on the Ramallah-Nablus road in Samaria. The Martyrs of the Palestinian Popular Army, a splinter group associated with Arafat's Fatah movement, claimed responsibility for the attack.

– Aug 10, 2002: Yafit Herenstein, 31, of Moshav Mechora in the Jordan Valley, was killed and her husband, Arno, seriously wounded when a Fatah terrorist infiltrated the moshav and opened fire outside their home.

– Sept 18, 2002: Yosef Ajami, 36, was killed when Fatah terrorists opened fire on his car near Mevo Dotan, north of Jenin in the West Bank.

– Oct 29, 2002: Three people, including 2 fourteen year olds, were shot to death by a Fatah terrorist.

-- Nov 10, 2002: Revital Ohayon, 34, and her two sons, Matan, 5, and Noam, 4, as well as Yitzhak Dori, 44 - all of Kibbutz Metzer - and Tirza Damari, 42, were killed when a Fatah terrorist infiltrated the kibbutz, located east of Hadera near the Green Line, and opened fire.

– Nov 28, 2002: 5 killed and 40 wounded when two Fatah terrorists opened fire and threw grenades at the Likud polling station in Beit She'an, near the central bus station, where party members were casting their votes in the Likud primary.

– Apr 24, 2003 - 1 was killed and 13 were wounded in a suicide bombing outside the train station in Kfar Sava. Groups related to the Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and the PFLP clamied joint responsibility for the attack.

– May 5, 2003 - Gideon Lichterman, 27, was killed and two other passengers, his six-year-old daughter Moriah and a reserve soldier, were seriously wounded when Fatah terrorists fired shots at their vehicle in Samaria.

– May 19, 2003: 3 were killed and 70 were wounded in a suicide bombing at the entrance to the Amakim Mall in Afula. The Islamic Jihad and the Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades both claimed responsibility for the attack.

– Aug 29, 2003: Shalom Har-Melekh, 25, was killed in a Fatah shooting attack while driving northeast of Ramallah. His wife, Limor, who was seven months pregnant, sustained moderate injuries, and gave birth to a baby girl by Caesarean section.

– Jan 29, 2004: 11 people were killed and over 50 wounded in a suicide bombing of an Egged bus no. 19 at the corner of Gaza and Arlozorov streets in Jerusalem. Both the Fatah-related Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

– Mar 14, 2004: 10 were killed and 16 wounded in a double suicide bombing at Ashdod Port. Hamas and Fatah claimed responsibility for the attack.

– May 2, 2004: Tali Hatuel, 34, and her daughters - Hila, 11, Hadar, 9, Roni, 7, and Merav, 2 - of Katif in the Gaza Strip were killed when two Palestinian terrorists fired on an Israeli car at the entrance to the Gaza Strip settlement bloc of Gush Katif. Fatah and Islamic Jihad claimed joint responsibility for the attack.

Rot in hell, Arafat
OceanDrive
11-11-2004, 17:31
A brief history of Arafat's lifetime....dont forget he is larger than life....he is not your average hero..
Dobbs Town
11-11-2004, 17:31
YES...he was Know....he is Known....and he will be know...for decades and deacdes...

Sukafits or any of the Jewish-Lovers cannot hope to ever acomplish that...none of us can...even if we tried for 1000 years...(assuming we could live 10 lifes)

I loved Mr. Arafat, and I love Jews. The word 'love' should never be twisted into a coded insult. With respect, doing so denigrates only yourself, sir.
Gaza Strip
11-11-2004, 17:32
How exactly do 'savages' amass billions?

They pocket the money given to them in handouts by the EU. Naturally. Arafat stole, at the lowest estimate, 4.6 billion (that's billion, not million) US dollars. How many meals would that buy a hungry Palestinian child? What a hero.
Dobbs Town
11-11-2004, 17:34
They pocket the money given to them in handouts by the EU. Naturally. Arafat stole, at the lowest estimate, 4.6 billion (that's billion, not million) US dollars. How many meals would that buy a hungry Palestinian child? What a hero.

Gaza, Israel also pockets money given to them in international handouts. I respectfully would like to suggest to you that the moral high ground in this instance may not be as firm as you'd like to think.
Conceptualists
11-11-2004, 17:34
They pocket the money given to them in handouts by the EU. Naturally. Arafat stole, at the lowest estimate, 4.6 billion (that's billion, not million) US dollars. .
Do you have a source for this?

Not that I particuarly doubt. A man like Arafatt easily has the capabilities to do this.

How many meals would that buy a hungry Palestinian child? What a hero
Depends if there is food available
Gaza Strip
11-11-2004, 17:37
Gaza, Israel also pockets money given to them in international handouts. I respectfully would like to suggest to you that the moral high ground in this instance may not be as firm as you'd like to think.

Yes... you're missing the point here, quite badly. If the money had gone to the Palestinians, fine. But no, it went into Arafat's PERSONAL bank accounts in Switzerland, the Cayman Islands etc. Handouts = one thing. Embezzlement = another.
Tcherbeb
11-11-2004, 17:38
Now, now, us jewish-lovers shouldn't be so partisan. He didn't only embezzle this money in order to send 100,000 € each month to his wife.
Some of his money went towards educating the young. (http://www.pmw.org.il/schoolbooks.html)

YES...he was Know....he is Known....and he will be know...for decades and deacdes...
So is adolf hitler. I hear "mein kampf" is quite popular in maghreb.
Torching Witches
11-11-2004, 17:39
How many meals would that buy a hungry Palestinian child?

Handing out meals, eh? Good in the very short term after a disaster, but counter productive for long-term development. Seeds grow and produce more seeds. A meal only keeps you going another day, and encourages dependency.
Tcherbeb
11-11-2004, 17:40
Gaza, Israel also pockets money given to them in international handouts. I respectfully would like to suggest to you that the moral high ground in this instance may not be as firm as you'd like to think.

You mean that one democracy is equal to a brutal dictatorship?

/yes, yes, it's all in our head, and you love jews.
Tcherbeb
11-11-2004, 17:42
Handing out meals, eh? Good in the very short term after a disaster, but counter productive for long-term development. Seeds grow and produce more seeds. A meal only keeps you going another day, and encourages dependency.

Yes, argue on the rhetoric, it buys enough time to explain why no infrastructure at all got built!
Torching Witches
11-11-2004, 17:43
You mean that one democracy is equal to a brutal dictatorship?

/yes, yes, it's all in our head, and you love jews.

No, he's just saying that criticising Arafat without acknowledging Israel's wrong-doing gives a false account of the bigger picture. Arafat failed in many respects, but who else would you have had in his place (and I mean who, specifically, not what qualities should that person have)?
OceanDrive
11-11-2004, 17:47
I loved Mr. Arafat, and I love Jews. The word 'love' should never be twisted into a coded insult. With respect, doing so denigrates only yourself, sir.I stand corrected....I should have said Most Jews(or pro-Jews) hate YasserArafat
Tcherbeb
11-11-2004, 17:49
No, he's just saying that criticising Arafat without acknowledging Israel's wrong-doing gives a false account of the bigger picture. Arafat failed in many respects, but who else would you have had in his place (and I mean who, specifically, not what qualities should that person have)?

Umm... maybe an elected head of state? I see very, very few here criticizing arafat, and many more who keep on "acknowledging Israel's wrong-doing".

Please, dodge the issues, I won't mind.

Why should Israel, the only jewish state in the world, be hated as much? The conflict with the arabs is a symptom, not the cause.

Why do the so-called "Anti-Zionists" NEVER, EVER take a stand against ANY Islamo-Fascist regime?

hating jews > hating osama
Stephistan
11-11-2004, 17:52
The man is dead, show a little respect. I bet at least half of you making such hateful comments probably also consider yourselves religious. Shame on you.

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