NationStates Jolt Archive

This year there has been a lot of talk about how moral issues decided the election. And well frankly, I see the two hot button issues, gay marriage and abortion, and frankly I don't care.

Yes, I said precisely that. As a white, straight, upper-middle class, college student male I really don't care about these issues at all. They don't affect me in the slightest.

And let's face it, these issues are miniscule compared to the greater issues at hand. Gays won't lose the right to marry, because they've never had it. Women won't lose their right to choice, because not even a most conservative supreme court would overturn Roe v. Wade. Bush could re-appoint half the justices and Roe v. Wade would still stand.

People focus on these pathetic issues like they are the apocalypse. They aren't. If we were denying women the right to vote, or executing gays in concentration camps, then it might be pretty damn close, but let's face it, both groups are near the pinnacle of their rights.

The important issues of the day are survival issues, Iraq and Terrorism. People focus on these foolish moral issues which have no affect on anything.

There, my two cents, you can call me a genius or a moron, do whatever, just don't tell me I'm a nazi. That doesn't go over well.

Actually, gay couples do have the right to marry. In Massachusetts, not to mention Canada, many places in Europe, and elsewhere.

There's a lot to lose, if they propose to denyus equal rights forever.

As for a woman's right to choose, that's more than the right to vote, it's the right to determine her own life's course.


Maybe you don't care.

But it matters.

Terrorism? I figure we're all against that. Maybe go secure the ports or our chemical plants, ...talk about that, if that's worthy of your attention.

Iraq? Well. We'll just see on that one, won't we?

You seem to care alot about your apathy.

just saying...

I'm not apathetic, I'm saying people are focusing on the wrong issues. The focus should most definitely be elsewhere, namely the middle east, where a bunch of terrorists who want to kill us all (be you gay or straight, male or female) because we are "American Imperialist Pigs."

What I'm saying is prioritize, we need to haul ass to keep ourselves alive today so we can deal with these issues later.

Why don't we discuss the morality of you whacking off to a picture of Donald Rumsfeld every night? :mad:

gaaack! bad images! bad images!

The threat of terrorism from Middle Easterners is very low. Worry more about Americans committing terrorism (Timothy McVeigh, the Army of God, etc.)

I'm not apathetic, I'm saying people are focusing on the wrong issues. The focus should most definitely be elsewhere, namely the middle east, where a bunch of terrorists who want to kill us all (be you gay or straight, male or female) because we are "American Imperialist Pigs."

What I'm saying is prioritize, we need to haul ass to keep ourselves alive today so we can deal with these issues later.
You mean you can't concentrate on two issues at the same time?

I'm not apathetic, I'm saying people are focusing on the wrong issues. The focus should most definitely be elsewhere, namely the middle east, where a bunch of terrorists who want to kill us all (be you gay or straight, male or female) because we are "American Imperialist Pigs."

What I'm saying is prioritize, we need to haul ass to keep ourselves alive today so we can deal with these issues later.
just for you to know, harm the rights of the human being because security problems (like terror) is one of the thing that you probaly can found at dictatorship.

Define moral issues. For many who responded that way the issue probably wasn't gay marriage or abortion. Although Bush is quite correct in stating there should be no litmus test for the judges. Kerry was caught undeniably lying at several points. He never came clean about his military record after pimping it for so long. He never hammered down his position on issues etc.. etc.. "moral issues" could cover many different points. It really is a poorly worded answer.

Actually, gay couples do have the right to marry. In Massachusetts, not to mention Canada, many places in Europe, and elsewhere.

There's a lot to lose, if they propose to denyus equal rights forever.

As for a woman's right to choose, that's more than the right to vote, it's the right to determine her own life's course.


Maybe you don't care.

But it matters.


Abortion and gay marriage might matter in themselves, but they aren't election issues because neither side in the election was actually going to do anything that would actually affect these issues.

Oxygen is important, but as neither side was planning to outlaw it, it wasn't an election issue.

I'm not apathetic, I'm saying people are focusing on the wrong issues. The focus should most definitely be elsewhere, namely the middle east, where a bunch of terrorists who want to kill us all (be you gay or straight, male or female) because we are "American Imperialist Pigs."

What I'm saying is prioritize, we need to haul ass to keep ourselves alive today so we can deal with these issues later.

Of course, Theo van Gogh was AMERICAN, that's why he was killed by an affluent muslim radical. It all makes sooo much sense now. :headbang:

No, while I admit van Gogh looked to be like an opinionated asshole he was by no means an imperialist pig. His murder is an indicator of the serious problems with radical Islam whose actions, contrary to popular thought, are aimed at all infidels.