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The All New All Different Gay Thread!

Lunatic Goofballs
11-11-2004, 04:30
Okay. We are here to discuss gay issues like gay marriage and gays in the military.

Here's the rules: You can't use an argument that has been used before. All arguments must be completely new and original.

Ready, set... go!

*figures the thread is about done for, and goes to get a pepsi.*
Klonor
11-11-2004, 04:32
Gays should be allowed to marry and be in the military. Why? Because I said so, and if you don't like it I shall strike you down!

http://www.earth-history.com/_images/GOD.jpg
Sdaeriji
11-11-2004, 04:33
Gay marriage should be allowed and gays should be allowed in the military because the great talking stick of Juicy Fruit that lives in the cloud city of Arakosa has decreed it so with his Fourth Edict of D'rutha.
Arammanar
11-11-2004, 04:33
Gays shouldn't be in the military. The ends of their rifles will always smell funny.
Lunatic Goofballs
11-11-2004, 04:34
I was wrong. Pleasantly wrong. Let the arguments continue! :)
Zhaid
11-11-2004, 04:38
Gays should be allowed to marry and be in the military. Why? Because I said so, and if you don't like it I shall strike you down!

1) The rights associated with marriage? Fine by me. But why upset so many Christians by demanding it happens in Church, or is called "marriage"?

2) Also, does your love really depend on a piece of paper? If so, that's pretty sad.

1 and 2 combined should lead to the logical conclusion that getting the legal rights associated with marriage should be enough for a gay couple. I am willing to support them on THAT request/demand.

Gays in the military? Heck, why not. The Greek had elite squads composed completely out of gay couples. If one died, the other would fight to the death to avenge his love. Tho you do have to understand it would be as awkward to hetero males to shower with you as it would be to lesbians showering with men. Not sure how to handle that...
Katganistan
11-11-2004, 04:40
Gays should marry. Once they're off the market, so to speak, it makes choosing a mate from unattached singles much easier.

Gays should be in the military. What the Queer Eye for the Straight Guy did for civilians, they certainly could do in improving the fashion sense and grooming of our countries' soldiers. ;)
Arammanar
11-11-2004, 04:42
Gays should not be allowed to marry. There's no way the parents could afford two wedding dresses.
Conceptualists
11-11-2004, 04:42
Gays should be allowed in the military because camoflauge is so last year.
Zhaid
11-11-2004, 04:43
Gays should marry. Once they're off the market, so to speak, it makes choosing a mate from unattached singles much easier.


I considered that. Unfortunately, lesbians for this purpose are categorized as "gay" too. :D
The Sunshine State
11-11-2004, 04:44
I'm against gay marriage, but for civil union. I think if you allow gays to be joined under a church roof in the name of God, you're insulting the fine religion of Christianity. Marriage is a religious ceremony, and as many of us know, Christianity and homosexuality ain't exactly like a smores sandwich. More like spinach and icecream...they just don't go together. Civil union however should definitely be legal everywhere.
Lunatic Goofballs
11-11-2004, 04:44
SOme of the greatest military commanders in history were gay.

Alexander The Great.
Genghis Khan.
George S. Patton.

Gays are born leaders!
His Majesty Ozymandias
11-11-2004, 04:45
Gays should not be allowed to marry because God told me to to hate them and not allow them to do anything. In fact, if I saw them in a candy store and they were trying to buy chocolate or anything fun, I was to stop them and shoot them on the spot.

Jesus Christ, the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world with His Flaming Sword of Righteousness, hates homosexuals.

If my gay son is reading this right now, I hate you, too.
Katganistan
11-11-2004, 04:48
Gays shouldn't be in the military. The ends of their rifles will always smell funny.

Watch it.
Lunatic Goofballs
11-11-2004, 04:49
Watch it.

Now we know where the line is drawn.

Thanks' Kat.

*nod*
Katganistan
11-11-2004, 04:50
I'm against gay marriage, but for civil union. I think if you allow gays to be joined under a church roof in the name of God, you're insulting the fine religion of Christianity.

What if a priest or pastor allows it? Is it still an insult to the religion? After all, wouldn't she or he be the religion's representative?
Marxlan
11-11-2004, 04:51
Gays shouldn't be in the military. The ends of their rifles will always smell funny.
I guess women are out, too.
Arammanar
11-11-2004, 04:52
Watch it.
Read the post immediately above yours.
Lunatic Goofballs
11-11-2004, 04:52
What if a priest or pastor allows it? Is it still an insult to the religion? After all, wouldn't she or he be the religion's representative?

An excellent question. If a priest okays it, is it still an affront to God?
His Majesty Ozymandias
11-11-2004, 04:53
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Oh my God!
I can't believe it!
Someone actually managed to draw the wrath of a moderator!
Not that the line that did it is unbelievable to be the line drawn, but I've definitely seen worse on this board.

Not to antagonize you, Mr. Moderator, but where exactly have the management decided to draw the line around here? What was the protocol?

I mean, what if this gentleman honestly believes homosexuals to be so innately deviant that the site of a rife would not draw them into a lust-driven rage that would compel them to do absolutely anything?
I mean, Wow, that's kind of discriminatory against racists, right?
Arammanar
11-11-2004, 04:53
An excellent question. If a priest okays it, is it still an affront to God?
If Mark Warner signs a peace treaty with al-Sadr, is it still valid?
Zhaid
11-11-2004, 04:53
I guess women are out, too.


Hell yes.

Let dumb alpha males and freaking "equal rights" homos go blow themselves up in a war but don't you dare touch our available woman pool.
Arammanar
11-11-2004, 04:54
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Oh my God!
I can't believe it!
Someone actually managed to draw the wrath of a moderator!
Not that the line that did it is unbelievable to be the line drawn, but I've definitely seen worse on this board.

Not to antagonize you, Mr. Moderator, but where exactly have the management decided to draw the line around here? What was the protocol?

I mean, what if this gentleman honestly believes homosexuals to be so innately deviant that the site of a rife would not draw them into a lust-driven rage that would compel them to do absolutely anything?
I mean, Wow, that's kind of discriminatory against racists, right?
So gays are a race now?
Katganistan
11-11-2004, 04:54
Gays should not be allowed to marry because God told me to to hate them and not allow them to do anything. In fact, if I saw them in a candy store and they were trying to buy chocolate or anything fun, I was to stop them and shoot them on the spot.

Jesus Christ, the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world with His Flaming Sword of Righteousness, hates homosexuals.

If my gay son is reading this right now, I hate you, too.

Watch it, you're really pushing the boundaries of good taste -- and you know we take a dim view of threats of violence.

Judge not, lest ye be judged....
And there's that other one... about the mote in my eye and the beam in your own...?

;)
The Sunshine State
11-11-2004, 04:54
I believe it is an affront to God, and any pastor or priest who allows gay marriage should be removed from their post. By allowing gay marriage, wouldn't a priest be going against the word of the holy book? In that case, maybe he isn't fit to be preaching....
Katganistan
11-11-2004, 04:55
I guess women are out, too.

AHEM. Watch it.

(aside: you DO know there ARE women in the military...?)
His Majesty Ozymandias
11-11-2004, 04:55
But Sunshine State,
I think that you're confused.

A lot of really religious people are probably loosing their collective diapers' contents because they think that the government is about to get involved with their church and make them marry homosexuals in a religious ceremony. That's not exactly how it works.
Arammanar
11-11-2004, 04:55
Judge not, lest ye be judged....
And there's that other one... about the mote in my eye and the beam in your own...?

;)
See thats what I mean. I made a non serious joke about anal sex, and he says God told him to kill gay people, and you get mad at me.
Zhaid
11-11-2004, 04:57
Watch it.

No exceptions for humor?

Quite the (up-?)tight moderation here.
Katganistan
11-11-2004, 04:58
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Oh my God!
I can't believe it!
Someone actually managed to draw the wrath of a moderator!
Not that the line that did it is unbelievable to be the line drawn, but I've definitely seen worse on this board.

Not to antagonize you, Mr. Moderator, but where exactly have the management decided to draw the line around here? What was the protocol?

I mean, what if this gentleman honestly believes homosexuals to be so innately deviant that the site of a rife would not draw them into a lust-driven rage that would compel them to do absolutely anything?
I mean, Wow, that's kind of discriminatory against racists, right?

I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to make... try writing about one idea at a time.
His Majesty Ozymandias
11-11-2004, 04:58
OK, a few things.

To that one guy,
Yes, gay people are a race.
They can't exactly help wanting to screw people of the same sex.

And to the moderator,
it's called sarcasm,

but thanks for quoting the bible to me.
Marxlan
11-11-2004, 05:00
AHEM. Watch it.

(aside: you DO know there ARE women in the military...?)
Simply a response to the initial comment: I hadn't seen your first warning.
Of course there are women in the military, and gays too. Isn't that the problem I'm approaching in a sarcastic manner?
Lunatic Goofballs
11-11-2004, 05:02
AHEM. Watch it.

(aside: you DO know there ARE women in the military...?)

There are gays in the military too. Just not the U.S. Military.

And as far as I have heard, there has not been a rash of guys jumping other guys in the shower.

The rate of such incidents have maintained a stable 25% all through the last ten years.
Conceptualists
11-11-2004, 05:05
Judge not, lest ye be judged....
And there's that other one... about the mote in my eye and the beam in your own...?

;)
I think that the post may have been in jest.

But does the wink mean you know>

:confused:

Is confused. Really must get some sleep
His Majesty Ozymandias
11-11-2004, 05:06
butthead voice:

"huh huh huh huh; these issues are gay; huh huh huh huh"
Goed Twee
11-11-2004, 05:07
I think homosexuals should be allowed to marry because we'd get to see heads explode TWICE: once when it's allowed, and again when it doesn't lead to the destruction of the world.

HA!
Katganistan
11-11-2004, 05:24
I believe it is an affront to God, and any pastor or priest who allows gay marriage should be removed from their post. By allowing gay marriage, wouldn't a priest be going against the word of the holy book? In that case, maybe he isn't fit to be preaching....


Where precisely is gay marriage proscribed? Or homosexuality?
Katganistan
11-11-2004, 05:27
There are gays in the military too. Just not the U.S. Military.

And as far as I have heard, there has not been a rash of guys jumping other guys in the shower.

The rate of such incidents have maintained a stable 25% all through the last ten years.

There may not officially be gays in the US Military, but you and I know there are probably a number who don't feel anyone needs to know.
Katganistan
11-11-2004, 05:29
People, look, no OFFICIAL warnings have been issued yet. I KNOW it's a joke thread, I'm giving people more slack, but I do have to let you know when you're getting out of bounds.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7451094&postcount=7 <-- does this sound completely serious to you?
Zhaid
11-11-2004, 05:36
I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to make... try writing about one idea at a time.

While I must admit his grammar baffles me as well, there's one thing I can make out that I also *would* like an answer to.


Not to antagonize you, Mr. Moderator, but where exactly have the management decided to draw the line around here? What was the protocol?


Please give us a simple and clear explanation of where the line is drawn so that I might avoid stepping on sore toes and getting banned? Thank you in advance.
Katganistan
11-11-2004, 05:40
See the post above yours, Zhaid.
SalusaSecondus
11-11-2004, 05:47
HMO, we recognize it as sarcasm and humor, but advocating violence (even in jest) is against our ToS. (No warning, just a note of where the line is.)
L rule and you dont
11-11-2004, 05:50
Since when did moderators have anything to do with gay rights issues? Unless of course the moderator happens to be gay. No offence Mr.Moderator
<cowers in fear>
Katganistan
11-11-2004, 05:58
Since when did moderators have anything to do with gay rights issues? Unless of course the moderator happens to be gay. No offence Mr.Moderator
<cowers in fear>

/me cracks up hysterically.


No seriously, pull the other one, it's got bells on it.
What, I can't have an opinion?
Lunatic Goofballs
11-11-2004, 06:04
/me cracks up hysterically.


No seriously, pull the other one, it's got bells on it.
What, I can't have an opinion?

*blink* You have two?!? *looks down at self* I think I got cheated. :(
Myaland
11-11-2004, 06:14
We could give them their own unit. This unit would strangely be the first one sent into every battle, to draw enemy fire, so that the other units would know where the enemy is , and take fewer casualties.
Armed Bookworms
11-11-2004, 06:28
Nah, they should just all become Airborne. They'd parachute behind enemy lines, give the enemy troops makeovers and bright, easy to see wardrobes. :p
Terminalia
11-11-2004, 06:31
I have no problem with gays being in the military, frontline duty only of

course.
Hakartopia
11-11-2004, 06:52
Gays should not be allowed to marry because they are actually horrible space-lizards from the planet Blobnar who worship Fagtar the Mighty and shoot aids-beams from their eyeballs.

^_^
Keruvalia
11-11-2004, 06:59
More importantly, one should ask if Gays should be allowed to marry in the military or if Gays should be allowed to marry military personnel.

Even more important is the question of whether or not Gays should be allowed to marry the military as a whole!

Slightly less important than the latter, but much more important than the former, is answering the question of whether or not people in the military should be able to marry.

A notch above the third, but not so much as the second, is answering the question of whether or not Gays should be allowed to own guns.
Doujin
11-11-2004, 08:01
Personally, as a gay male, I am afraid of openly gay homosexuals being in the military. I mean, come on - I can see it now.. strutting around with their M-16s, going off on a rampage yelling "Who'd you call a Faggot??"

(I think someone else said that before)
Fnordish Infamy
11-11-2004, 08:53
Gays should not be allowed to marry because they are actually horrible space-lizards from the planet Blobnar who worship Fagtar the Mighty and shoot aids-beams from their eyeballs.

^_^

How did you find out?!

*climbs in secret lesbianmobile and flies off to inform the sisterhood that THE SECRET HAS BEEN LEAKED*