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"Arnold Schwarzenegger Running For President"

I'm sorry but this is about the 3rd or 4th time I've heard this so it needs to be corrected; Arnold Schwarzenegger cannot run for President of the United States - He was not born in this country - He has only been a citizen of the United States for 20 years - and noone is going to amend that rule.

You tell 'em

I agree, neither the Democrats nor the Republicans will force his pet amendment through.

"Arnold Schwarzenegger Running For President"

I'm sorry but this is about the 3rd or 4th time I've heard this so it needs to be corrected; Arnold Schwarzenegger cannot run for President of the United States - He was not born in this country - He has only been a citizen of the United States for 20 years - and noone is going to amend that rule.


Even if the off chance occurs and an amendment is passed that would allow him to run for President, which party would accept him? I mean ... he's a Republican right now, but he's a California Republican.

The current state of the RNC is one of Evangelical Christendom who would oppose a Scwarzenegger ticket. Arnold is pro-stem cell research, pro-gay marriage, and pro many social issues. He has said himself that he is an economic governor, but that social issue should be left to the individual or the community and not the State.

I bet the Libertarians would love to have him. :)

"Arnold Schwarzenegger Running For President"

I'm sorry but this is about the 3rd or 4th time I've heard this so it needs to be corrected; Arnold Schwarzenegger cannot run for President of the United States - He was not born in this country - He has only been a citizen of the United States for 20 years - and noone is going to amend that rule.
Shame to be so undemocratic but he up not every country can be truly democratic.

Even if the off chance occurs and an amendment is passed that would allow him to run for President, which party would accept him? I mean ... he's a Republican right now, but he's a California Republican.

The current state of the RNC is one of Evangelical Christendom who would oppose a Scwarzenegger ticket. Arnold is pro-stem cell research, pro-gay marriage, and pro many social issues. He has said himself that he is an economic governor, but that social issue should be left to the individual or the community and not the State.

I bet the Libertarians would love to have him. :)


I don’t know about him personally but that sort of candidate (socially democratic economically conservative) would be a lot what I am looking for.

LOL, that was Clinton/Gore.

"I admired Hitler. For instance, because he came from being a little man with
almost no formal education, up to power. I admire him for being such a good
public speaker and for what he did with it." "I want to experience being.. like
Hitler, in the Nuremberg stadium, and have all those people scream at you
and just being total agreement whatever you say."_ Arnold

"I admired Hitler. For instance, because he came from being a little man with
almost no formal education, up to power. I admire him for being such a good
public speaker and for what he did with it." "I want to experience being.. like
Hitler, in the Nuremberg stadium, and have all those people scream at you
and just being total agreement whatever you say."_ Arnold

lol ... great quote ...

Now, what would be funny is if he ran anyway as an independent. The Constituion says he cannot serve, but it does not say he can't run! I wonder just how many votes he would get ...

Might send election 2008 into a tail spin.

He'd probably make a better president than actor...

Shame to be so undemocratic but he up not every country can be truly democratic.

o.O Eh?

"I admired Hitler. For instance, because he came from being a little man with
almost no formal education, up to power. I admire him for being such a good
public speaker and for what he did with it." "I want to experience being.. like
Hitler, in the Nuremberg stadium, and have all those people scream at you
and just being total agreement whatever you say."_ Arnold


Take the context of the quote though. Don't just look at it and see Arnold wants to be Hitler.

Arnold's father Gustasv Schwarzenegger was a commandant in the Nazi Party.

Arnold's father Gustasv Schwarzenegger was a commandant in the Nazi Party.

And? Does that make every child of a former Nazi party operative a Nazi? Hell no.

Arnold's father Gustasv Schwarzenegger was a commandant in the Nazi Party.
Wow, my dad was a soldier in the South African army. Doesn't mean I support aparteid (or him either btw)

And? Does that make every child of a former Nazi party operative a Nazi? Hell no.

He also invited Kurt Waldheim, a Nazi war criminal, to his wedding.

He also invited Kurt Waldheim, a Nazi war criminal, to his wedding.
Wasn't that before he was a proven war criminal?

(Honestly, I don't know)

He also invited Kurt Waldheim, a Nazi war criminal, to his wedding.

I say again, and? Has he himself acted in anyway to suggest that he is a Nazi? No, or at least not yet. To be honest, if he is a friend to Waldheim, i suggests maybe thinking about his friends, but just because i know a person convicted of assault and he is my friend doesn't make me a violent person.

It'd be interesting to see someone with a lesser intellect than GW in the Oval Office. But then again, I'm only young, for all I know pretty much every president was an idiot.

Schwarzenegger's best film role has got to be Conan - he had 79 words to say in the entire film, including grunts

It'd be interesting to see someone with a lesser intellect than GW in the Oval Office. But then again, I'm only young, for all I know pretty much every president was an idiot.

Schwarzenegger's best film role has got to be Conan - he had 79 words to say in the entire film, including grunts
I'd vote for him, if only because I want him to cite a reason for conquering Iraq being "to hear de lamentations of der women".

I think arnold has done a good job in california and he would make an excellent president, you should'nt count him out because hes an actor, they are not all idiots.

I think arnold has done a good job in california and he would make an excellent president, you should'nt count him out because hes an actor, they are not all idiots.
They gave him 79 words in Conan because they didn't trust him with 80

I think arnold has done a good job in california and he would make an excellent president, you should'nt count him out because hes an actor, they are not all idiots.


We are not counting him out because he is an actor

We are counting him out because he is not a US native … and the likelihood of getting the constitution changed in 4 years just because of this

Unlikely
To say the least

There is but one president in The Empire of Presidency. It will execute anyone claiming to aspire to said position that is already filled within the Empire.

We are not counting him out because he is an actor

We are counting him out because he is not a US native … and the likelihood of getting the constitution changed in 4 years just because of this

Unlikely
To say the least

Its just an opinion on the job hes doing I dont want to change the constitution for him, I odnt like him that much.

There is but one president in The Empire of Presidency. It will execute anyone claiming to aspire to said position that is already filled within the Empire.


Um that position has been “filled” if you are talking about the US presidency for hundreds of years

Um well for at least longer then you have been alive , I think you are the upstart who now claims the presidency :)

Its just an opinion on the job hes doing I dont want to change the constitution for him, I odnt like him that much.

Yeah I agree so far he has done an alright job (I think he was smart enough to get some damn good advisors)

Lol you can do a lot if you listen to the right people (we should get a few of those “good” people in to the cabinet lol)

An ex-actor as a president? psh! that'll never happen

Ronnie who?

An ex-actor as a president? psh! that'll never happen

Ronnie who?
CLinton, obviously
(Sarcasm)

CLinton, obviously
(Sarcasm)


I think he ment lincon ... he had something to do with theatre dident he?

no, he meant ronald reagan, who acted in some old western moves

notice the quote "ronnie who?"?

no, he meant ronald reagan, who acted in some old western moves

notice the quote "ronnie who?"?


I see someone that can’t detect sarcasm/jokes
Seriously got to get used to internet humor :)

Man, I do hope those were jokes, Reagan was an actor. ;)

What I'd find more 'scary' were if he (Ahnuld) did get the amendment passed, and ran on a ticket with Ventura. I dont live in CA to see what Arnie's got going on, but I was quite pleased with what Ventura did in Minnesota. The two of them could probably pull in a significant number of youth votes. Maybe not enough to win, but enough to create a larger dent in the "Big 2" parties than Perot managed.

Man, I do hope those were jokes, Reagan was an actor. ;)

What I'd find more 'scary' were if he (Ahnuld) did get the amendment passed, and ran on a ticket with Ventura. I dont live in CA to see what Arnie's got going on, but I was quite pleased with what Ventura did in Minnesota. The two of them could probably pull in a significant number of youth votes. Maybe not enough to win, but enough to create a larger dent in the "Big 2" parties than Perot managed.

Yikes I must have really messed up if two people didn’t get it

I mean my reference to Lincoln (being shot in a theater) as taken as a serious response to a post about an ex actor I didn’t think it could be much more silly on this topic.

Hmmm next time I will have to do the [\sillyness] tag to make it clear

It'd be interesting to see someone with a lesser intellect than GW in the Oval Office. But then again, I'm only young, for all I know pretty much every president was an idiot.

Schwarzenegger's best film role has got to be Conan - he had 79 words to say in the entire film, including grunts


I suspect Scwarzenneger's not half as dumb as he acts. If you pay attention to some of the things he says, it starts to look like he's been planning to go into politics, and maybe even aiming for the presidency for over a decade. So far he seems to be doing a really good job - he's already a Governor isn't he? Of course it's unlikely he'll get the laws changed, so he probably won't be president, but he might be a good one.

On the other hand, I'm begining to think that Bush isn't half as dumb as he acts either, and I'm not sure I want another President with that quality.

ahh, but thanks to a technicality he can run for Vice-President. Yes, Ahh-nahld can legally be veep. Now if something were to happen to the Prez, he couldn't fulfill the role, and the Speaker of the House would. So there is a possibility of Ahh-nahld being on the ticket.

I suspect Scwarzenneger's not half as dumb as he acts. If you pay attention to some of the things he says, it starts to look like he's been planning to go into politics, and maybe even aiming for the presidency for over a decade. So far he seems to be doing a really good job - he's already a Governor isn't he? Of course it's unlikely he'll get the laws changed, so he probably won't be president, but he might be a good one.

On the other hand, I'm begining to think that Bush isn't half as dumb as he acts either, and I'm not sure I want another President with that quality.

Actually, much to my surprise (and I voted against the recall that made him governor), he is a pretty good governor.

The Constitution of the US very specifically states that only native born Americans can be President. This was primarily because many of the delegates at the original convention that framed it hated Alexander Hamiltons guts (he was born on one of the Caribbean islands) and wanted to make sure he could never be President. The official reason is because it is felt that only a native born American could truly have a full stake in the Republic.

I am not in favor of amending the Constitution, a highly durable and very effective framework of government, just because we may have a good possible President in one man. Much as I respect his abilities so far, it isn't worth it in my view. Just as I am not favor of getting rid of the Electoral College for the same reason (and for other reasons but that is a different thread of discussion).

For those of you who aren't clear on it. The US is not a democracy, but a Republic where the representatives are chosen democratically. The Constitution is our central rule of law, and all US laws must comply with it.

Kind of like amending the Bible or Koran, not something to be done lightly. And for some Americans, the rule of law is a sacred thing.

Before you start harping on that vs the Iraq thing, thats another thread too.

Arnold's father Gustasv Schwarzenegger was a commandant in the Nazi Party.

Arnold has apologised for that and regularly works with Jewish groups.....

I suspect Scwarzenneger's not half as dumb as he acts. If you pay attention to some of the things he says, it starts to look like he's been planning to go into politics, and maybe even aiming for the presidency for over a decade. So far he seems to be doing a really good job - he's already a Governor isn't he? Of course it's unlikely he'll get the laws changed, so he probably won't be president, but he might be a good one.

On the other hand, I'm begining to think that Bush isn't half as dumb as he acts either, and I'm not sure I want another President with that quality.


Actually he is a very shrewd businessman. Came to this country with a little money and is now worth about 150 million or so(An estimate from an article I read awhile aback).

Having a constitutional amendment only to change the natural born requirement would not work.

What if they ran it under with an amendment to ban gay marriage?

ahh, but thanks to a technicality he can run for Vice-President. Yes, Ahh-nahld can legally be veep. Now if something were to happen to the Prez, he couldn't fulfill the role, and the Speaker of the House would. So there is a possibility of Ahh-nahld being on the ticket.

Nope, you need to be eligible to be President in order to be Vice-President. Which means you have you have to be native born, and Arnold is still out.

you should'nt count him out because hes an actor, they are not all idiots.

Indeed. I like acting and politics. When Arnold first came to power in California I thought, "Well, nice to see he's made a career change, he's not necessarily inept, I'll certainly give him a chance."
My faith was misplaced.
I think a definite low point was when he had the roof of his office removed so he could bypass the law against smoking in public buildings. I mean, seriously, he was an action movie star, beating the hell out of bad guys, leaping about etc... can't he take the strain of, you know, walking outside? And anyway, he's the Governer, couldn't he try to get the law changed? And if all else fails he could give up smoking, good for the lifespan you know. Three perfectly good options, but no, he has to have no roof. What happens if he's writing an important document and rain comes and ruins it? Sorry, but Arnold should stick to what he is best at- bad acting.
(This, by no means, proves that actors can't be politicians, I'd love to be both, but then, aren't all politicians just actors?)

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