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I have just read this post "Repeal the Legalization of Prostitution" in the UN fourms and it got me wondering. Why is it that it is legal in the NS and not in the US? I just can't understand why it is legal here and not in the US. I mean are people that voted for it all men and sex crazy or is it because politicans likes the chance of being caught by a cop while being with a prostitute? I personally feel it should be legal, not just for my benefit but so it is safe to do and children can't get pulled into it.

What do you think?

I have just read this post "Repeal the Legalization of Prostitution" in the UN fourms and it go me wondering. Why is it that it is legal in the NS and not in the US? I just can't understand why it is legal here and not in the US. I mean are people that voted for it all men and sex crazy or is it because politicans likes the chance of being caught by a cop while being with a prostitute? I personally feel it should be legal, not just for my benefit but so it is safe to do and children can't get pulled into it.

What do you think?

It's legal in Nevada.

So not only do I have to pay a prostitute but I have to pay an extra $200 to do it where it is legal?

So not only do I have to pay a prostitute but I have to pay an extra $200 to do it where it is legal?

At least.

So not only do I have to pay a prostitute but I have to pay an extra $200 to do it where it is legal?
Hey, government wants it's share

You must have never been told, sex is bad.

I can't believe that you are American and were never tought that. :D

I see nothing wrong with prostitution, as long as the women (or men, for that matter), are well taken care of and have access to information on other jobs. Street prostitution isn't good, 'cause they're more likely to be abused or whatever. Nothing wrong with a well-run brothel, though. And no, I don't know from experience, though one near where I live had an open day when it first opened.
JT

I think it should be legalized. I don't know about US but around here sexslavery is a serious problem. By making it legal it would be a lot harder for the east european "mafias" to make money selling Slavic slaves in/to western Europe.

I dont like the idea of sharing or not knowing where somethings been
Two big problems with prostitutes.

How is it the worlds oldest Profession fail to see the logic unless you say Ancient women were incompetent and so gave poon for food?

Thing is kids can get caught in it legal or illegal people lie and may not be a whore store so kids on the street can say they are legal.



I think Christmas should be banned is it a public holiday in U.S.?
Cause whos a christian these days any way.
Might as well allow kiddy porn etc who is anyone to pass judgement on someone else.
Multiple marriages gets a tick.
Incest why not.
Corrupt politicians who isnt.
Murder its a victimless crime
:rolleyes:

I think it should be legalized. I don't know about US but around here sexslavery is a serious problem. By making it legal it would be a lot harder for the east european "mafias" to make money selling Slavic slaves in/to western Europe.

Nah youll just get germanys excess Nigerians :p

I think Christmas should be banned is it a public holiday in U.S.?
Cause whos a christian these days any way.

Hey, no way! I want my holidays! And I'm not Christian, but Christmas is celebrated at the same time as old pagan fest. Darkest day during the year (well actually it's 21st of Dec, but close enough) I want to respect my ancestors! :D

I just wanted to point out something. It is slightly related to this. Gay marriage supporters always point out that the institution of marriage is already ruined. Well, it's things like prostitution and premarital sex that have caused the high divorce rates among straight couples. Those who save themselves for one person are more likely to stay married to that person. Those that have sex with every person of the opposite sex they can will more than likely not stay married long. Simple facts.

So I say, no. Prostitution should remain illegal.

I see nothing wrong with prostitution, as long as the women (or men, for that matter), are well taken care of and have access to information on other jobs.
And sometimes they do have other professions too. Some Estonian and Russian women who work as teachers, cleaners, waiters (what ever) in their home country, travel to Finland every once in a while and spend few days working as a whore. It's not like they couldn't survive with the salary they get, they just want be richer. In 2 days they can double their incomes.

heh, I just remembered, I've met a maleprostitute in Germany. He sais he does it because it's such an easy way to make money. easy? I do think it's lot harder for male prostitutes. You know, can't take 15 customers per day etc... ;)

I just wanted to point out something. It is slightly related to this. Gay marriage supporters always point out that the institution of marriage is already ruined. Well, it's things like prostitution and premarital sex that have caused the high divorce rates among straight couples. Those who save themselves for one person are more likely to stay married to that person. Those that have sex with every person of the opposite sex they can will more than likely not stay married long. Simple facts.

I think they (who have saved themselves) stay married because for them the idea of marriage is much more sacred. They won't give up so easily. Those who have sex with every person don't respect this kind of old moral values as much. For me marriage is just a way to lower taxes.

I just wanted to point out something. It is slightly related to this. Gay marriage supporters always point out that the institution of marriage is already ruined. Well, it's things like prostitution and premarital sex that have caused the high divorce rates among straight couples. Those who save themselves for one person are more likely to stay married to that person. Those that have sex with every person of the opposite sex they can will more than likely not stay married long. Simple facts.

So I say, no. Prostitution should remain illegal.

hmm, prostitution has always been around, so i don't see how it 'destroyed the institution of marriage'. And about premarital sex, if anything, it has lowered the divorce rates by giving a couple the chance to see wether they are 'compatible in bed' (don't expect a huge fan of sodomy to stay with a woman with the libido of a 90 years old nun, to be extreme). The 'institution of marriage' has been 'destroyed' by the idea that we are free people and that when we notice a relationship doesn't work out at all, we just end the relationship instead of staying together because we married eachother and society says you have to save your marriage.

Why legalise prostitution:
-You can controle the quality of it. Prostitutes would have to follow certain rules (as there are rules in any profession). They would have to undergo regular medical examinations for instance.
-Protection of the prostitute. You take it out of the criminal enviroment and give her/him more security.
-Because some men/women simply need it and if all parties are consenting and of age, noone is harmed. It is a fact that that not all men/women are married and it is a fact that not all married men/women 'get what they want'. Prostitution is perfect for allowing people that are sexually frustrated (meant in a non-pejorative sense) to vent that in a harmless way.

I just wanted to point out something. It is slightly related to this. Gay marriage supporters always point out that the institution of marriage is already ruined. Well, it's things like prostitution and premarital sex that have caused the high divorce rates among straight couples. Those who save themselves for one person are more likely to stay married to that person. Those that have sex with every person of the opposite sex they can will more than likely not stay married long. Simple facts.

So I say, no. Prostitution should remain illegal.

You know you have just opened a big can of worms!!!!

Do you really think if a person wants to cheat on their husband/wife they are not going to get a prostitute or some one else? I mean lets be real if a person wants to cheat they are going to cheat. That is a simple fact.

Also by not having sex, that is againest human nature. We are a primitive species. You might not want to face that but we are. In every animal species there is the urge to have sex, as there should be. It is there to keep the species going and we most definitely have it . Otherwise how else do explain our population to be so large? Men are the ones to have it the most and that is why we cheat the most. I admit it is not right to do, but it is not because of prostitution. Nobody says you have to cheat, but you do because there is the urge to and because you want to.

-Because some men/women simply need it and if all parties are consenting and of age, noone is harmed. It is a fact that that not all men/women are married and it is a fact that not all married men/women 'get what they want'. Prostitution is perfect for allowing people that are sexually frustrated (meant in a non-pejorative sense) to vent that in a harmless way.
hmm I know you didn't mean this, but your post raised a question in my mind.
Dominas and domination is legal (well, here it's) The customers give money and they get sexual services. Why it's not considered as prostitution?

Just to make it clear, I think it's good that there are this kind of services available for those who want it.

Why is it that it is legal in the NS and not in the US?

What do you think?

I think you are wrong on both accounts. It is legal in parts of the US. And it is illegal in some NS nations.

I just wanted to point out something. It is slightly related to this. Gay marriage supporters always point out that the institution of marriage is already ruined. Well, it's things like prostitution and premarital sex that have caused the high divorce rates among straight couples. Those who save themselves for one person are more likely to stay married to that person. Those that have sex with every person of the opposite sex they can will more than likely not stay married long. Simple facts.

So I say, no. Prostitution should remain illegal.

Seeing as how both the criminalization of prostitution and increased divorce rates are both recent events, it would be easier to make a causal connection between anti-prostitution laws and divorce than between prostitution and divorce.

I think you are wrong on both accounts. It is legal in parts of the US. And it is illegal in some NS nations.



Seeing as how both the criminalization of prostitution and increased divorce rates are both recent events, it would be easier to make a causal connection between anti-prostitution laws and divorce than between prostitution and divorce.


Are you kidding me? Just because Nevada has it legal does not really mean it is legal in the US. Now if twenty-six states had it legalize then yes I would say it is legal in the US but until it is not legal in the US.

On the last thing you that is true, but it is legal in all UN nations which is most of NS.

One of the main reasons why prostitution is legal in NS but not the US (this also applies to other NS UN legislation such as euthanasia and freedom of choice), is that NS incorporates the political opinions of a great many people outside the US, and is therefore in many respects a more tolerant and free society.

(This analogy excludes the benevolent guiding hand of the Moderation Staff. Our real world counterparts would be gods.)

Better legal than non-legal.
While it is deplorable that women have to resort to such methods to make money, it is better if it is legalised than not and even better if it is government regulated and controlled.
Apparently, many prostitutes lose most of their earnings because the money is 'appropriated' by the illicit employers who also physically and mentally abuse them.
With government regulation, prostitutes could be protected and could make a decent living allowing them to later leave the 'profession' if they wish....

I think you are wrong on both accounts. It is legal in parts of the US. And it is illegal in some NS nations.
Are you kidding me? Just because Nevada has it legal does not really mean it is legal in the US. Now if twenty-six states had it legalize then yes I would say it is legal in the US but until it is not legal in the US. A

You might wish to inform the good people of Nevada that you no longer consider them part of the United States.
:rolleyes:

I have just read this post "Repeal the Legalization of Prostitution" in the UN fourms and it go me wondering. Why is it that it is legal in the NS and not in the US? I just can't understand why it is legal here and not in the US. I mean are people that voted for it all men and sex crazy or is it because politicans likes the chance of being caught by a cop while being with a prostitute? I personally feel it should be legal, not just for my benefit but so it is safe to do and children can't get pulled into it.

1) The US is not the world.

2) It is actually legal in the US, unless you consider Nevada not to be a part of the United States.

3) Given that some politicians and other powerful business men have been publicly charged with visiting prostitutes in the US, you would think it was in their best interests to have the laws changed; therefore, it seems likely that their constituents do not want it legalized.

4) It can be safer but never 100% safe.

5) What makes you think children won't get pulled into it? Even though there is legal prostitution in the US (Nevada) there are still underage prostitutes. Just because it is legal for people over 18 (or 21, I forget which) does not mean it's going to eliminate pedophilia and the demand for child prostitutes, (disgusting as I find it.)

6) The United States is not the world. NationStates reflects the ideologies of players from around the world, and their culture.

Err so how does NS prostitution work anyway?

Just curious.

You might wish to inform the good people of Nevada that you no longer consider them part of the United States.
:rolleyes:


Well after the election I am starting to think they are not.

But yes I do consider them a state and I am proud for them to be in the union and also I think they have it straight there in nevada. But we don't in the rest of US. To me just one state having prostitution legal in the US. It is legal in a state of the US.

Hey, no way! I want my holidays! And I'm not Christian, but Christmas is celebrated at the same time as old pagan fest. Darkest day during the year (well actually it's 21st of Dec, but close enough) I want to respect my ancestors! :D

no surprise there
Well i actually like Christmas but i fell its misused if you took all the religous holidays away and New Years and gave people like two weeks more annual holidays then would people takee those days off?
Answer probably christmas and New Years
Christmas maybe not because many people work over it any way christian or not
New Years because it turns out people like getting pissed

You know you have just opened a big can of worms!!!!

Do you really think if a person wants to cheat on their husband/wife they are not going to get a prostitute or some one else? I mean lets be real if a person wants to cheat they are going to cheat. That is a simple fact.

Also by not having sex, that is againest human nature. We are a primitive species. You might not want to face that but we are. In every animal species there is the urge to have sex, as there should be. It is there to keep the species going and we most definitely have it . Otherwise how else do explain our population to be so large? Men are the ones to have it the most and that is why we cheat the most. I admit it is not right to do, but it is not because of prostitution. Nobody says you have to cheat, but you do because there is the urge to and because you want to.

Dont need to cheat to reproduce though
thats not entirely true new study suggests women have a 'strong' urge to cheat
Study says Gorillas have small testicles because alpha male gets it all and so has no need for his sperm to compete with others
Man has decent size because their can be some competition
Female Chimps turns out are little sluts getting it from many so Males have abnormaly large testes.

But just because you can dosent mean its right

Christmas maybe not because many people work over it any way christian or not
New Years because it turns out people like getting pissed
heh, around here every single holiday, christian or not, is a good reason to get pissed. Especially New year, May day and mid summer. Christmas and Eastern are the only holidays which have remained (more or less) religious.

I think you are wrong on both accounts. It is legal in parts of the US. And it is illegal in some NS nations.



Seeing as how both the criminalization of prostitution and increased divorce rates are both recent events, it would be easier to make a causal connection between anti-prostitution laws and divorce than between prostitution and divorce.



Are you kidding me? Just because Nevada has it legal does not really mean it is legal in the US. Now if twenty-six states had it legalize then yes I would say it is legal in the US but until it is not legal in the US.

On the last thing you that is true, but it is legal in all UN nations which is most of NS.


:rolleyes: It is legal in PARTS of the US. Where did you get that the original poster said it is legal in the US. Read every word.



Prositution was decriminalised (not legalised) in New Zealand last year. I've already noticed the massive moral decline, I mean, every man and his dog goes to brothels now, it's digusting, they're divorcing their wives in huge numbers and it's not just cos the wives weren't into bestiality, damn prostitutes.

heh, around here every single holiday, christian or not, is a good reason to get pissed. Especially New year, May day and mid summer. Christmas and Eastern are the only holidays which have remained (more or less) religious.

Yep summer Lucky Euros you hjot weather get tanked go swimming drown

:rolleyes: It is legal in PARTS of the US. Where did you get that the original poster said it is legal in the US. Read every word.



Prositution was decriminalised (not legalised) in New Zealand last year. I've already noticed the massive moral decline, I mean, every man and his dog goes to brothels now, it's digusting, they're divorcing their wives in huge numbers and it's not just cos the wives weren't into bestiality, damn prostitutes.

....And you think it would be better if those women stayed with those men? The same men that jump at the chance to have sex for money? Maybe the women are lucky they found out what dogs their husbands were through decriminalised prostitution, rather than catching STDs from those same men due to illegal prostitution?

I'd also like to point out that you only seem to highlight two things to indicate 'moral decline' - high levels of divorce, and men utilising the decriminalised prostitution. Personally, I don't see how either indicate moral decline... but then, I support divorce (if they aren't compatible, they shouldn't be together), and I have nothing wrong with prostitution (as long as the women and men aren't forced into it, and as long as they are of age - two things served well by prostitution being decriminalised).

Go NZ Go Phaiakia
If they wernt compatible they shouldn't be together full stop.
Speaking of Morale decline Wayne Rooney English soccer/Football player breaks up with fiancee(well she broke uop with him)"after he spent time" with a 70 year old Prostitute and you question morale decline?

Damn Labour bloody commie pinkos
Taxes have gone up an average of $6000 while income has only gone up $5000 Bastards have 8 billion sitting in the bank.
There reply is oh were giving more to social welfare and healthcare but that dosent help he majority of people who are sorted it just lenghtens the gravy train.
Hospital waiting list hah there are three now made another 2v so they could say the Hospital waiting list is the shortest its ever been.Damn spin doctors