NationStates Jolt Archive


And the pharmacists shall set the policy..

Zeppistan
09-11-2004, 23:37
yep. It's not between you and your doctor anymore what treatments you may receive...

Nope.

That would make too much sense.


Now your decisions have to have the moral approval of the pharmacist who happens to be on duty when you hand over your prescription...
(http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20041109/pl_usatoday/druggistsrefusetogiveoutpill)


For a year, Julee Lacey stopped in a CVS pharmacy near her home in a Fort Worth suburb to get refills of her birth-control pills. Then one day last March, the pharmacist refused to fill Lacey's prescription because she did not believe in birth control.

"I was shocked," says Lacey, 33, who was not able to get her prescription until the next day and missed taking one of her pills. "Their job is not to regulate what people take or do. It's just to fill the prescription that was ordered by my physician."

Some pharmacists, however, disagree and refuse on moral grounds to fill prescriptions for contraceptives. And states from Rhode Island to Washington have proposed laws that would protect such decisions.

...



Awful nice of people to decide that their morals supercede your own. Where will it stop? Picture a pharmacist drawing a paycheck and refusing to fill ANY prescriptions because medical help interferes with God's will.

It could happen. It would be legal. And if this person had a union job they probably couldn't even be fired for it....
Conceptualists
09-11-2004, 23:44
On one hand I sympathise with the pharmacist in question, as it is a horrible thing to be forced to do things that you don't agree with.

But then again, her job is to work in a pharmacy with everything that it entails and not to 'witness' to those who she percieves as immoral, or to be a moral arbitrator
Aerou
09-11-2004, 23:44
I was stunned when I saw this! I couldn't believe someone in the medical profession would be so irresponsible. Makes me wonder....
DeaconDave
09-11-2004, 23:45
It could happen. It would be legal. And if this person had a union job they probably couldn't even be fired for it....


She'll lose her pharmacacists license. We had this one last month.
Hajekistan
09-11-2004, 23:47
I fail to see what the big deal is. This woman haas on shift at one pharmacy. If she wants to be an ass, you do what you do anytime you dislike someone in a service or retail industry, you lodge a complaint and/or take your business elsewhere.
Markreich
09-11-2004, 23:49
I saw the title (truncated). We have Rush playing on the Sirius radio here. I thought it said

"And the Pharmacists shall inhereit the Earth..."
Presidency
09-11-2004, 23:51
The Empire of Presidency will not allow any one other than the President to set policy. Any one trying to do other wise will be shot to death where they stand.
Sinuhue
09-11-2004, 23:52
This is ridiculous! These are the people that are anti-abortion, yet heaven's forbid we make birth control readily available to people! I agree that they should be able to refuse on moral grounds, but there should be no leniency if the pharmacist does not pass the prescription on. Hopefully these pharmacy centres will become known for their anti-birth control policies...yes, yes, I know...they say they are refusing because they are afraid the pill (regular or morning-after) could cause a miscarriage...a ridiculous argument considering that most women on the pill have been for some time, and are very unlikely to be pregnant while taking it. Do they stock condoms in these pharmacies too...or just poke holes in them?
Hajekistan
09-11-2004, 23:52
I saw the title (truncated). We have Rush playing on the Sirius radio here. I thought it said

"And the Pharmacists shall inhereit the Earth..."
Damn it, Markreich! No one is supposed to know about that yet, the plan is still in phase 3!
If people find out . . .
Gods damn you, you may have just ruined us all!!!!
Sinuhue
09-11-2004, 23:55
I fail to see what the big deal is. This woman haas on shift at one pharmacy. If she wants to be an ass, you do what you do anytime you dislike someone in a service or retail industry, you lodge a complaint and/or take your business elsewhere.

Imagine, however, that this was a case of a woman needing the morning after pill, for whatever reason, and not being able to get it that day. It's a time-crunch thing. If she dropped by the pharmacy after work, not expecting to be refused, and then found other pharmacies closed, or too far to get to, she'd be in a real bind...especially if it was a weekend. A lot of ifs, but all possible. Could they refuse to sell diabetic supplies to someone because they think needles are immoral?
Dempublicents
09-11-2004, 23:56
I fail to see what the big deal is. This woman haas on shift at one pharmacy. If she wants to be an ass, you do what you do anytime you dislike someone in a service or retail industry, you lodge a complaint and/or take your business elsewhere.

You missed the point. The pharmacist in question (a) was not doing her job and the company should be able to fire her for it and (b) would not transfer the prescription to another pharmacy. Because of the actions of that pharmacist, the woman missed a pill, having to wait until Monday to get her prescription.

When a woman has a prescription for the pill, she takes it to a pharmacy and it lasts an entire year. It's not like you get a new little slip of paper to take in every month. If the pharmacy where you already have a prescription won't or can't fill it for some reason, *they* have to transfer it or you're screwed.
Zeppistan
10-11-2004, 00:08
Imagine, however, that this was a case of a woman needing the morning after pill, for whatever reason, and not being able to get it that day. It's a time-crunch thing. If she dropped by the pharmacy after work, not expecting to be refused, and then found other pharmacies closed, or too far to get to, she'd be in a real bind...especially if it was a weekend. A lot of ifs, but all possible. Could they refuse to sell diabetic supplies to someone because they think needles are immoral?


Under the laws as passed, they can refuse ANYTHING and just state that it is against their morals.

Imagine a rape victim looking to ensure that they didn't get impregnated. Imagine her state of mind that morning. Imagine getting treated like a slut by a pharmacist who looks down their nose at her, publicly shames her even more, and imagine her having to find the courage to walk into the next pharmacy hoping it doesn't happen again....
Dakini
10-11-2004, 00:17
these people are fucktards.
The Black Forrest
10-11-2004, 00:21
The pharmicist should be fired.

A phamicist is only to advise on the use of the drug and not dispense "morality"

People getting hit with this need to take a lesson from the Christians.

Band together and start harassing the suppliers of the pharmacy.
Markreich
10-11-2004, 05:01
Damn it, Markreich! No one is supposed to know about that yet, the plan is still in phase 3!
If people find out . . .
Gods damn you, you may have just ruined us all!!!!

Can't the Priests of the Temple of Syrinx just use their great computers in the hallowed halls to find a new solution??
Chess Squares
10-11-2004, 06:12
She'll lose her pharmacacists license. We had this one last month.
EXCEPT there are a a quarter dozen states that have it legalized to do that, and alot more considering it.

by the time some one start challenging this shit in the courts the courts will be so filled with fundamentalist wackos we will be fucked anyway

"aethists are trying to force their 'religion' down our throats"
forget that pharmacists dotn have to do their job or even allow anyone else to do their job because of moral objections and are still allowed to keep their job
forget that the christian god is on everything in government
forget that the kind of people bush is going to be appointing to the courts apirse to be clarence thomas who thinks states should be able to have an official religion, ill give you 2 guesses or mormonism)
CanuckHeaven
10-11-2004, 06:27
Somehow, this topic seems to bring sense to the re-release of the Stepford Wives last summer. Scary stuff indeed?