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http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004521125,00.html



BOSSES have banned Santa from a shopping centre - in case he offends non-Christians.

The Scrooges struck at Birmingham's famous Bullring .



This is getting silly now.
Political corectness gone to far?

Yeah he was way to early because St Maarten (the best!, he comes on11 november) and his cousin (St Niklaas) still have to come around. But I guess (exept exaptions) that most of the NS people don't know those latest 2 great :) givers.

you're the one who seems to embrace the left...I assure you it's not a "bushrepublicanliar" who's against santa clause

you're the one who seems to embrace the left...I assure you it's not a "bushrepublicanliar" who's against santa clause
Indeed. :D

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004521125,00.html






This is getting silly now.
Political corectness gone to far?

Yeah he was way to early because St Maarten (the best!, he comes on11 november) and his cousin (St Niklaas) still have to come around. But I guess (exept exaptions) that most of the NS people don't know those latest 2 great :) givers.

Unfortunately I am not surprised.

The fact is however, that such exercises are entirely counter-productive in that they are bit-by-bit alienating some of the white majority and causing them to vote for such unadulterated scum as the BNP. Rather than helping ethnic minorities to fit in, they are making such people rather detested and loathed by some people.

This folly needs to stop now, before it is too late.

This folly needs to stop now, before it is too late.
What makes you think it isnt too late already ?

Yeah, banning Santa Claus is just stupid. He's not even a religious figure, he's just an old fat dude that gives presents to kids.

That story is from The Sun? I think that saids it all

you're the one who seems to embrace the left...I assure you it's not a "bushrepublicanliar" who's against santa clause

Proof that the poster is neutral. ;)

If they could ban christmas tunes in stores, I might spend more time and money there, I have no interest in being forcefed plastic christmas cheer for over a month.

What makes you think it isnt too late already ?

I say they have a million santa march. Oh, and he always made me cry and smelled like moth balls. I will rebel by watching all of the classics in a row. Starting with Elf.

Then Nightmare Before Christmas. Santy Claws! I still hate the elf that wants to be a dentist.

Saint Nicholas = Sanctos Nictos Laos = Sanctified Destroyer of Men

What could be wrong with that? :)

Saint Nicholas = Sanctos Nichtis Laos = Sanctified Destroyer of Men

What could be wrong with that? :)

I am one of his fans but here it is St Maarten (French St Martin), you know y-the centurion that cut his cape in half to give the other half at a poor.

But he is also dressed up as a St Niclas with the high bishop hat (sorry don't know the word for "meiter" in English) and the long beard.

And of course "Zwarte Piet" with his bag in wich he puts the "naughty boys".
Altough, since a few years we have politic correct Saints on the streets with the racial roles changed.

Although the source (the tabloid "Sun") may be a bit sleezy, this does happen, even in America. One American county banned Santa Claus a few years ago. Another banned poinsettias from public schools. An entire state (Minnesota, I believe) banned government workers from wearing red and green. Ironically, America's church-state separation laws only seem to apply to Chritianity and Judaism. In the same Brooklyn school that banned Christmas and Chanukah symbols, Muslim students were given seperate rooms for prayer (and this was shortly after the World Trade Centre and Pentagon attacks). In addition, some of these things are not even religious symbols (unless Santa Claus was the missing fourth wise man who brought Jesus a Poinsettia and red and green baby clothes as gifts).

I am one of his fans but here it is St Maarten (French St Martin), you know y-the centurion that cut his cape in half to give the other half at a poor.

But he is also dressed up as a St Niclas with the high bishop hat (sorry don't know the word for "meiter" in English) and the long beard.

And of course "Zwarte Piet" with his bag in wich he puts the "naughty boys".
Altough, since a few years we have politic correct Saints on the streets with the racial roles changed.

It's "miter" or "mitre" in English.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004521125,00.html


This is getting silly now.
Political corectness gone to far?

Yeah he was way to early because St Maarten (the best!, he comes on11 november) and his cousin (St Niklaas) still have to come around. But I guess (exept exaptions) that most of the NS people don't know those latest 2 great :) givers.
Living in the Netherlands I know all three of them.

Politcal correctness gone mad - Santa is part of a Christian tradition (well, sort of), so surely it is more offensive to ban it/him? No-one mentions banning fireworks at Diwali because it's offensive to people who aren't Hindu's or Sikhs :rolleyes:

And of course "Zwarte Piet" with his bag in wich he puts the "naughty boys".
Altough, since a few years we have politic correct Saints on the streets with the racial roles changed.
Uuh...thank god I never ran into one of those so far.

By banning Santa Claus[e?] its admitting that he's real if he's that determental to the Christian faith. Folks, I think today a little bit of Christmas Spirit has come back in all of us. Its like Miracle on 34th Street all over again.

So what they're saying is Santa Claus would offend people while the 1000s of christmas based products in the shops around them wouldn't?

O yjomk that ... excuse me...

*puts down root beer*

...those things are stronger than we all though.

I think that we should stop celebrating Christmas as a christian holiday altogether, as it is offensive to ancient Sumerians. Just as Halloween costumes of gnarled witches are offensive to Wiccans. Christmas celebrations were ripped off from the much older celebrations of the rebirth of Nimrod. I think it should be reclaimed, the red-robed Nimrod should be given back his fearsome weapons, and human sacrifices should be reinstituted.

Or we could go for Saturnalia, if you still want gift giving, a whole seven days worth.

I think that we should stop celebrating Christmas as a christian holiday altogether, as it is offensive to ancient Sumerians. Just as Halloween costumes of gnarled witches are offensive to Wiccans. Christmas celebrations were ripped off from the much older celebrations of the rebirth of Nimrod. I think it should be reclaimed, the red-robed Nimrod should be given back his fearsome weapons, and human sacrifices should be reinstituted.
Ummmmmm right.....:rolleyes:

*Whispers to the rest of the forum "Do you think Dru here is a little bit off his rocker or is it just me?"*

Santa Clause isn't even a religious figure, he's Coca-Cola product placement.

Santa Clause isn't even a religious figure, he's Coca-Cola product placement.
*Stops drinking Coke and hides it behind back*

Is not!!! :p

I believe Coca-Cola invented Santa Clause in the early 1900s? Was it back when they still used cocaine in their soda? Hmm...

I believe Coca-Cola invented Santa Clause in the early 1900s? Was it back when they still used cocaine in their soda? Hmm...
What are you getting at? That Santa does crack cocaine? :D

I believe Coca-Cola invented Santa Clause in the early 1900s? Was it back when they still used cocaine in their soda? Hmm...
No, Santa was around previously (though I can't remember exactly when he first started). Coca-Cola was involved because until their ad campaign he used to wear Green, not red

What are you getting at? That Santa does crack cocaine? :D
"Mom, Santa stole the VCR!" :p

No, Santa was around previously (though I can't remember exactly when he first started). Coca-Cola was involved because until their ad campaign he used to wear Green, not red
Scratch that, I fell into the trap of many an historian (supposidly!)
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp

Should they take angels off the shelves?

"Mom, Santa stole the VCR!" :p
Come to think of it now, it would certainally explain the red nose. Hmmmm......... maybe there is something to this ;)

Sure as hell doesn't explain is weight problems though. Now I'm confusing myself. So the question remains is or is not Santa doing crack? :confused:

We should ban christmas lights, easter eggs, and sandles (Jesus wore sandles so wearing sandles would advocate religion)!!!!!!

The plain fact of the matter is that political correctness is getting out of hand. Freedom of religion is guaranteed to people of the United States by our constitution, yet we're going around banning all sorts of religious symbols because we're afraid we might offend a minority. Something wrong with that picture?

There's been such a backlash against Christianity in the past decade or so that I really can't stomach it. Around the holidays, my town hall has a humongous menora(h?) placed outside of it, yet they don't place a Christmas tree beside it because they are afraid the Jews might complain. The only reason my town even has a Christmas tree is because a resident donated a part of his property to plant one there.

It doesn't matter that Santa Claus isn't a religious figure, he's been part of the Christmas tradition for generations. And for those of you who think he's a Coca-Cola marketing figure... the idea of Santa Claus originated in the Netherlands, and spread from there throughout the rest of Europe and the United States.

These idiots who are trying to make everyone equal with political correctness are stripping people of iconography that has been praised for longer than anyone can remember, all in the name of being "fair" to the minorities. Yet, I distinctly remember COMMUNISM, with which the United States was embroiled in a global struggle for 50 years with, embraces the idea of aboloshing religion. Are we becoming too much like our arch-enemy from the second half of the twentieth century?

So the question remains is or is not Santa doing crack? :confused:

Well he does have magic dust, and like you said...a red nose

and he has little people help him, travels through the air thanks to flying reindeer, and squeezes down chimneys...

Heck, I'm Jewish, I don't mind a seeing Santa here and there.. that is, if I'm allowed to poke him... :D ...

I've never met a non-Christian who doesn't celebrate "X-mas". This is incredibly silly. Besides, I would think if anyone were to ban Santa, it would be so they didn't offend the fundies...because Santa is a corruption of the holiday's original intent.

Well he does have magic dust, and like you said...a red nose

and he has little people help him, travels through the air thanks to flying reindeer, and squeezes down chimneys...
Maybe he has moved to something harder like LSD in addition to doing crack? Now that we're discussing it, it sure sounds like it. I mean the crack would explain the nose, being able to fit down chimneys (Maybe he pads himself so he looks fat? :confused: ), but the elves, or little people for the more politically correct out there, and flying reindeer? Those sound like something you'd accounter with a hallucinogen.

All I can say for sure is this: Santa clean up your act man. You're supposed to be a role model for cripe sakes! Don't let the fame get to you like that! Drugs aren't the answer! ;)

I say they have a million santa march. Oh, and he always made me cry and smelled like moth balls. I will rebel by watching all of the classics in a row. Starting with Elf.

here here!!

Although the source (the tabloid "Sun") may be a bit sleezy, this does happen, even in America. One American county banned Santa Claus a few years ago. Another banned poinsettias from public schools. An entire state (Minnesota, I believe) banned government workers from wearing red and green. Ironically, America's church-state separation laws only seem to apply to Chritianity and Judaism. In the same Brooklyn school that banned Christmas and Chanukah symbols, Muslim students were given seperate rooms for prayer (and this was shortly after the World Trade Centre and Pentagon attacks). In addition, some of these things are not even religious symbols (unless Santa Claus was the missing fourth wise man who brought Jesus a Poinsettia and red and green baby clothes as gifts).

In washington state an elemenatry school decided not to celebrate halloween in fear of insulting the local witch population.

:headbang:

We should ban christmas lights, easter eggs, and sandles (Jesus wore sandles so wearing sandles would advocate religion)!!!!!!
:D

Santa Claus is not real.

here here!!


I almost forgot the tradition, "A Christmas Story." Now, that is a Santa I wouldn't mind seeing banned. I especially love the cranky, overworked elves. "Come on kid we ain't got all day!" "Ho...ho...ho...ho" Santa on acid.

The plain fact of the matter is that political correctness is getting out of hand. Freedom of religion is guaranteed to people of the United States by our constitution, yet we're going around banning all sorts of religious symbols because we're afraid we might offend a minority. Something wrong with that picture?

There's been such a backlash against Christianity in the past decade or so that I really can't stomach it. Around the holidays, my town hall has a humongous menora(h?) placed outside of it, yet they don't place a Christmas tree beside it because they are afraid the Jews might complain. The only reason my town even has a Christmas tree is because a resident donated a part of his property to plant one there.

It doesn't matter that Santa Claus isn't a religious figure, he's been part of the Christmas tradition for generations. And for those of you who think he's a Coca-Cola marketing figure... the idea of Santa Claus originated in the Netherlands, and spread from there throughout the rest of Europe and the United States.

These idiots who are trying to make everyone equal with political correctness are stripping people of iconography that has been praised for longer than anyone can remember, all in the name of being "fair" to the minorities. Yet, I distinctly remember COMMUNISM, with which the United States was embroiled in a global struggle for 50 years with, embraces the idea of aboloshing religion. Are we becoming too much like our arch-enemy from the second half of the twentieth century?
Good point and something all Americans should think about very seriously.

I want Christmas banned for Christmas

Bah fuckin' humbug.

NOOOOO! dont ban christmas, dont ban any religious holidays, lets celebrate em all ! who could be against all those days of from work ? ))

Santa Claus is not real.
:eek: Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*Claps ears to head*

I didn't hear that! I can't hear you! Lalalalalalala......









Oh wait a minute that's right, isn't it? My bad. Anyway....... Shhhhhhh, don't let the secret out. ;)

AArgh, I hate political correctness! I am a Christian, I don't really like cocaine-cola/LSD santa (shouldn't give him the mulled wine, alcohol and drugs is really bad!), but I don't really care about Santa much - he doesn't offend me, except for his bloody pixies (REAL elves are 6 feet tall, and poncy!). What was that about offending witches? Witches should all be burnt at the stake!

AArgh, I hate political correctness! I am a Christian, I don't really like cocaine-cola/LSD santa (shouldn't give him the mulled wine, alcohol and drugs is really bad!), but I don't really care about Santa much - he doesn't offend me, except for his bloody pixies (REAL elves are 6 feet tall, and poncy!). What was that about offending witches? Witches should all be burnt at the stake!

...and you should be fed to the lions.

...and you should be fed to the lions.

And just like Daniel, God will save him from the lions :p

As for Santa, this has gone way way to far. The people should rise up against Political Correctness. Political Correctness offends me so I guess that blew that out of the water.

And just like Daniel, God will save him from the lions :p

As for Santa, this has gone way way to far. The people should rise up against Political Correctness. Political Correctness offends me so I guess that blew that out of the water.

Oh so he's a "Major Prophet" now? Unlike the 100s of Christians that G-d declined to save from the roman lions?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004521125,00.html






This is getting silly now.
Political corectness gone to far?

Yeah he was way to early because St Maarten (the best!, he comes on11 november) and his cousin (St Niklaas) still have to come around. But I guess (exept exaptions) that most of the NS people don't know those latest 2 great :) givers.
That ain't political correctness. That's stupidity. Which currently we are able to export in ship loads. (All because little Hitler's in the county councils)

That story is from The Sun? I think that saids it all
I somehow think there may be truth in it though. Last year Patricia Hewett (my least favorite minister after Blunkett) stopped her department sending Christamas cards because they could be offensive. Instead she sent one's saying "Seasons Greatings" (what a cunning bitch :rolleyes: ).

We may as well make a state religion based on not saying any slightly offensive. Oh wait.......

I want Christmas banned for Christmas

Bah fuckin' humbug.
Yeah, lets go back to celebrating the winter solstice. :D

Yeah, lets go back to celebrating the winter solstice. :D
Same difference.