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I have come to the conclusion that the 2 people that are the greatest threats to democracy are Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter. Will someone please argue with them and make like debate rules that say they can't talk over you when you are losing?! Why is the news even talking to Ann. She's the biggest bitch the world has ever seen! Seroiously, these 2 have claimed that the Republican party should be in power forever and will be. Granted, I'm not a democrat, but these 2 still get on my nerves. They make O'reilly look like he's liberal! (Actually I like O'reilly, cause he supports gay marriage.) What do you think bout these two?

Well, Hannity isn't THAT bad. He uses reason and logic, and I generally get the feeling I could have a decent debate with him. Arguing with Coulter however, would be like talking to a brick wall, a hateful racist brick wall.

Chalk Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage up there too.


Also, Oreilly takes a lot of heat since he's so well known, but I actually respect the guy. He's criticisized Bush on occasion, and even disagreed with the extremists (Ingraham, Coulter) as well. He calls himself an independant, which is another point in his favor.

I don't really have a problem with either Hannity or Oreilly, though I disagree with them.

I have come to the conclusion that the 2 people that are the greatest threats to democracy are Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter. Will someone please argue with them and make like debate rules that say they can't talk over you when you are losing?! Why is the news even talking to Ann. She's the biggest bitch the world has ever seen! Seroiously, these 2 have claimed that the Republican party should be in power forever and will be. Granted, I'm not a democrat, but these 2 still get on my nerves. They make O'reilly look like he's liberal! (Actually I like O'reilly, cause he supports gay marriage.) What do you think bout these two?

By liking O'Reilly you show that all you care about is what they believe not how they express it. And that is the true problem.

All of these jerks (Moore and Franken, included) are making shitloads of money by portraying talking points and rallying cries as news. They are no better than the asshole televangelists who rile their viewers into donating money. Same damn thing, but nobody cares.

Unfortunately, I am beginning to think that maybe Jon Stewart might be up to the same thing. A little to preachy, and he seems far too ready to get his face on any political show he can. I hope not though.

I used to listen to Hannity often, but I eventually tired of him. Sure, he brings up some good points and is a good speaker, but damn, give a chance for the others to speak! On his show, he will ask a question and let the other person get two words out before running over him or cutting him off. It is really a waste of time to listen to. Only hearing one side of everything is a waste of time.

Ann Coulter would be horribly sued for libel if liberal was truly a person. The woman has lost her mind and is filled with nothing more than hatred, ignorance, and a verbose language usage that's better left for the educated.

Ann Coulter is the only one I really have a problem with because in her ideal society she wouldn't be allowed to say the things she says, being a woman and all. I have respect for the other for at least standing up for their beliefs, but the level of hypocrisy from Ann Coulter is just too much to bear.

Ann Coulter would be horribly sued for libel if liberal was truly a person. The woman has lost her mind and is filled with nothing more than hatred, ignorance, and a verbose language usage that's better left for the educated.

She's got dollar signs in her eyes my friend. Since she isn't pretty or smart enough to be an anchor she rants and raves and gets publicity by saying highly inflammatory things.

Honestly, I think that they're both better than Ted Rall.

Rush is right, and is the man. Word to your mother!

She's got dollar signs in her eyes my friend.

As do they all!

Well, Hannity isn't THAT bad. He uses reason and logic, and I generally get the feeling I could have a decent debate with him. Arguing with Coulter however, would be like talking to a brick wall, a hateful racist brick wall.
yeah hannity has brilliant reason and logic "you are a democrat, thus you lack the intelligence and morale superiority of a republican and thus we [republicans] are better"

Well, Hannity isn't THAT bad. He uses reason and logic, and I generally get the feeling I could have a decent debate with him. Arguing with Coulter however, would be like talking to a brick wall, a hateful racist brick wall.

Chalk Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage up there too.


Also, Oreilly takes a lot of heat since he's so well known, but I actually respect the guy. He's criticisized Bush on occasion, and even disagreed with the extremists (Ingraham, Coulter) as well. He calls himself an independant, which is another point in his favor.

I don't really have a problem with either Hannity or Oreilly, though I disagree with them.

I find O'Reilly acceptable now and then. Hannity I put up there higher than Limbaugh on my "Threat to Democracy" meter (as is the vernacular of this thread), and put Michael Savage at the top, with Coulter as his consort.

God, there's an unappealing couple...

yeah hannity has brilliant reason and logic "you are a democrat, thus you lack the intelligence and morale superiority of a republican and thus we [republicans] are better"

The most "moral" dickweeds are ussually also the most hypocritical. Rush says we should lock up drug users and throw away the key and he is hooked on bills. O'Reilly loves standing up for family values and sexually harrassing his employees and anally stimulating himself with a vibrator. Guilliani left his wife when she got cancer, Bill Benet is hooked on gambling, even Jessee Jackson has had his scandals.

The moral of the story?

Hannity will be rushed to the hospital with a hamster in his ass and Coulter will end up dropping babies out of helicopters, just wait and see it' ll happen! I guarantee!

it was Newt Gingrich that left his wife when she got cancer. Giulliani just had an affair and left. or rather got caught and was tossed out.

It was a reaaly bad idea to undo the equal time rules under Reagan. I can't listen to any of these hate peddlers. I'll stick with NPR.

Maybe I give Hannity too much credit. Maybe I haven't listened to him enough. :p

Hannity reminds me far too much as a drunken college frat member to be respectable in my eyes.

Ann Coulter is fucking nuts. Anything she says is shock value in attempt to gain a hell of a lot of money.

Honestly, I think that they're both better than Ted Rall.
Ted Rall is a complete scumbag. He makes fun of dead soldiers, he make fun of the sick and dying. He is a piece of shit, and if he ever said anyhting about my family like he has said about soldiers and others... :sniper:

Ted Rall is a complete scumbag. He makes fun of dead soldiers, he make fun of the sick and dying. He is a piece of shit, and if he ever said anyhting about my family like he has said about soldiers and others... :sniper:
ted rall is a jackass but at least he makes a point that doesnt inolve "haha im better than you because im not a republican"

ted rall is a jackass but at least he makes a point that doesnt inolve "haha im better than you because im not a republican"
Whatever, excuse his repugnant behavior all you want. He is a scumbag of the highest order, and a coward.

I have come to the conclusion that the 2 people that are the greatest threats to democracy are Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter. Will someone please argue with them and make like debate rules that say they can't talk over you when you are losing?! Why is the news even talking to Ann. She's the biggest bitch the world has ever seen! Seroiously, these 2 have claimed that the Republican party should be in power forever and will be. Granted, I'm not a democrat, but these 2 still get on my nerves. They make O'reilly look like he's liberal! (Actually I like O'reilly, cause he supports gay marriage.) What do you think bout these two?

I think your logic in this argument is invalid due the title labeling Hannity and Coulter as being morons. Just because someone does not share the same views as you does not make them a moron.

moron- 1. A person born with such a weak mind that he can be trained to do only routine tasks, but probably can be trained to read; person who does not develop beyond the mental age of eight to twelve years. A moron is less mentally deficient than an imbecile or idiot. - World Book Dictionary

Let's first look at Ann Coulter and see if this would constitute her as a moron. . .
(1) An honors graduate of Cornell University
(2) received her J.D. from University of Michigan Law school
(3) an attorney in the Department of Justice Honors Program for outstanding law school graduates
(4) named one of the top 100 Public Intellectuals by federal judge Richard Posner in 2001.
(5) Several New York Times Bestseller books such as: Treason: Liberal Treachery From the Cold War to the War on Terrorism, Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right, High Crimes and Misdemeanors:The Case Against Bill Clinton, and How to talk to a liberal (if you must)

Now with Sean Hannity. . .

(1) star of "Hannity and Colmes" one of cable's most successful cable news shows and number one debate program on cable television
(2) author of Let Freedom Ring, and Deliver us from evil (NY times bestsellers)
(3) a news show dedicated to him that is heard by over 12 million people and is the second most listened to on talk radio (1st place belonging to Rush)
(4) named "Talk Show Host of the Year" in 2001 by R&R
(5) named "Top 100 Talk Hosts in America." by Talkers Magazine.

I think next time it would be better to debate the issues rather than personal attacks because that discredits your arguments, if you decline to use facts to prove your otherwise absurd claims it weakens your credibility in other areas.

Whatever, excuse his repugnant behavior all you want. He is a scumbag of the highest order, and a coward.
and i suppose you are a person with complete and total unbias

despire the big red W in your sig

Why the hell does everyone think I'm a liberal just cause I support gay marriage. The personal attacks I put on Coulter and Hannity are because they are warrented. They are weakminded and can only perform basic tasks. They don't let anyone speak their mind. I'm givin' em their own medicine.

I think next time it would be better to debate the issues rather than personal attacks because that discredits your arguments, if you decline to use facts to prove your otherwise absurd claims it weakens your credibility in other areas.
which is really ironic, because that is the entire constistency of anne coulter's articles, speeches, and books and sean hannty's show, talk show, and books - personal attacks


you would think if personal attacks weakened an argument they would ne so popular? maybe its because republicans are stupid

Why the hell does everyone think I'm a liberal just cause I support gay marriage. The personal attacks I put on Coulter and Hannity are because they are warrented. They are weakminded and can only perform basic tasks. They don't let anyone speak their mind. I'm givin' em their own medicine.

Because people are stupid, partisan, and believe that there are only two parties, both of which is the absolute avatar of conservatism or liberalism (whichever applies) and that whatever the party says on an issue is what that entire grouping believes?

Actually, the first four words really do the trick nicely as it is :p

and i suppose you are a person with complete and total unbias

despire the big red W in your sig
See, this has nothing to do with my bias. We were talking about Ted Rall. Since you can't be bothered to talk about ted rall without bringing me into it, :upyours: .

See, this has nothing to do with my bias. We were talking about Ted Rall. Since you can't be bothered to talk about ted rall without bringing me into it, :upyours: .
oh yes it does

Al Franken I really enjoy. I accutally dislike most of the shows on air american radio (I'm sorry, listening to people can Bush evil without and real talk about issues gets old.) But Al fraken will make a point, and name the sorce he got it from. Perfect debate form. Plus he is polite to every conservative he has on the show (except for Mark Luther).

Joe Scarborough is awesome. Everyone else is terrible.

Can we dispense with the obscene gesture smiley? For people who are questioning other people's intelligence and maturity, that sure is childish.

which is really ironic, because that is the entire constistency of anne coulter's articles, speeches, and books and sean hannty's show, talk show, and books - personal attacks


you would think if personal attacks weakened an argument they would ne so popular? maybe its because republicans are stupid


Well at least they have issues that they debate and disprove while the person who started this thread just started by calling them morons and that is their only point (or lack thereof). The reason they are so popular is because they do not rely on that for their only argument. If that was the case than they wouldn't be popular as they are.
It does not mean you are of supreme intelligence if you can just call someone a moron.

Do you think their books would really be bestsellers if all it consisted of was
Your a moron, your an idiot, your a stupid imbecile, and no other facts or debates on other issues? Because if that is the case, I know of several nationstates posters that should write a book because they would be rich.

Personal attacks do weaken an argument if that is all you use without stating facts that back up your claims.

E.G. Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity is a moron.
If your are going to make that claim, prove it.

Also I find it funny that your are of such elitiest supreme genius stature that it makes your intelligence superior to all of us inferior and stupid republicans. Please enlighten me with your words of wisdom, O Great One.

I would like to say that although I said that Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity were morons, I do actually like 1 conservative guy very very much.

Tucker Carlson from Crossfire is a very nice guy and he's levelheaded. He disagreed with the Iraq war, he didn't vote for Bush, he thinks the neocons are crazy, and he doesn't attack with no evidence.

He's the good conservative, although I think he's actually a libertarian like me.

I would like to say that although I said that Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity were morons, I do actually like 1 conservative guy very very much.

Tucker Carlson from Crossfire is a very nice guy and he's levelheaded. He disagreed with the Iraq war, he didn't vote for Bush, he thinks the neocons are crazy, and he doesn't attack with no evidence.

He's the good conservative, although I think he's actually a libertarian like me.

I think Jon Steward called him a dick and it was really funny. Tucker is alright. Hes a real conservative, not the necon's that are running the party right now. People keep saying that at this rate there will be permanet republican power; I think at this the party is going to cut itself in half.

I'm trying to figure out how two celebrity political pundits "threaten democracy" (?)

I'm trying to figure out how two celebrity political pundits "threaten democracy" (?)

Cause they support limiting freedom of speech so that liberals can't talk and they try to keep the rep. party in power forever as the sole power.

I'm trying to figure out how two celebrity political pundits "threaten democracy" (?)


It was "hurting america" not threatening democracy.

Having never listened to Ann Coulter, I can't speak on her behalf.

I would like to know why you don't like Sean Hannity, though. And I want specifics. Not just worthless dribble like "he doesn't like democrats" or "he wants to limit free speech". Specifics. Facts. Quotes (with context, please).

Thank you. This should spawn a decent debate.

Honestly, I think that they're both better than Ted Rall.

Ted Rall is a complete scumbag. He makes fun of dead soldiers, he make fun of the sick and dying. He is a piece of shit, and if he ever said anyhting about my family like he has said about soldiers and others... :sniper:

Thanks! :) I didn't know who he was, and now I am his newest fan! :D

It was "hurting america" not threatening democracy.
No, the original post says "I have come to the conclusion that the 2 people that are the greatest threats to democracy are Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter."

Having never listened to Ann Coulter, I can't speak on her behalf.

I would like to know why you don't like Sean Hannity, though. And I want specifics. Not just worthless dribble like "he doesn't like democrats" or "he wants to limit free speech". Specifics. Facts. Quotes (with context, please).

Thank you. This should spawn a decent debate.

Well, it'll take me some time to come up with specifics, cause I'm working on a research paper right now, but one thing that really bothers me about him is that once a convo starts to go away from his views, he just talks over the person, and then, if the person is right and he disagrees he just says "Whatever". He did that at least 2 times this past week.

Cause they support limiting freedom of speech so that liberals can't talk and they try to keep the rep. party in power forever as the sole power.
Find me a quote from Sean Hannity that says he wants to limit your freedom of speech. For that matter, find one for Ann Coulter as well.

It was a reaaly bad idea to undo the equal time rules under Reagan. I can't listen to any of these hate peddlers. I'll stick with NPR.

Good idea, because we all know that NPR is very objective and balanced...

Well, it'll take me some time to come up with specifics, cause I'm working on a research paper right now, but one thing that really bothers me about him is that once a convo starts to go away from his views, he just talks over the person, and then, if the person is right and he disagrees he just says "Whatever". He did that at least 2 times this past week.

Um... I've heard him probably 20 times and I've never heard him do that. I don't believe you. Context please.

Actually, I do remember him doing that once, but they were out of time. Nothing wrong with that.

. . .

I think next time it would be better to debate the issues rather than personal attacks because that discredits your arguments, if you decline to use facts to prove your otherwise absurd claims it weakens your credibility in other areas.

Very good. Now, apply that standard to Ms. Coultier.

Find me a quote from Sean Hannity that says he wants to limit your freedom of speech. For that matter, find one for Ann Coulter as well.

First off, here's an Ann quote that is about Timothy McVeigh and how Ann doesn't disprove of terrorism.

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
-- Ann Coulter to George Gurley, New York Observer, August 21, 2002


On [Fox News Channel's February 7th] Hannity and Colmes, Alan Colmes confronted Ann Coulter with the following statement she made at the Conservative Political Action Committee conference:"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too."
Coulter whined to Colmes, "I didn't know we were talking about this tonight, but now that you've sprungit on me..." but confirmed she made the comment and boasted it was a "huge hit with the audience."
Colmes: "You hate liberals. You despise liberals. This is unbelievable.We should execute them to make liberals scared?"
Coulter: "Right. Right!"
-- Feb. 10, 2002

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."
-- Ann Coulter, MSNBC

And for Hannity.....

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=91585

Well, it'll take me some time to come up with specifics, cause I'm working on a research paper right now, but one thing that really bothers me about him is that once a convo starts to go away from his views, he just talks over the person, and then, if the person is right and he disagrees he just says "Whatever". He did that at least 2 times this past week.

To get an idea of what Coulter writes here are some titles of online columns of hers:

40 Excuses and a Mule

C-BS

Admitted War Criminal Cries Foul
Ubstantiated Heroism of Hanoi John
Brothers Band Together Against Kerry
- All endorsing Swift Boat Veterans

Never Trust a Liberal Over Three

In Desperation, Kerry Adopts a Puppy

All are little more than insulting personal attacks on John Kerry and or democrats in general.

You can believe what you want, but when you use personal attacks you degrade yourself.

First off, here's an Ann quote that is about Timothy McVeigh and how Ann doesn't disprove of terrorism.

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
-- Ann Coulter to George Gurley, New York Observer, August 21, 2002


On [Fox News Channel's February 7th] Hannity and Colmes, Alan Colmes confronted Ann Coulter with the following statement she made at the Conservative Political Action Committee conference:"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too."
Coulter whined to Colmes, "I didn't know we were talking about this tonight, but now that you've sprungit on me..." but confirmed she made the comment and boasted it was a "huge hit with the audience."
Colmes: "You hate liberals. You despise liberals. This is unbelievable.We should execute them to make liberals scared?"
Coulter: "Right. Right!"
-- Feb. 10, 2002

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."
-- Ann Coulter, MSNBC

And for Hannity.....

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=91585
Not one of those answers my question, which was how are Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter suppressing your freedom of speech? As for your Sean Hannity info website, it is clearly a left-leaning organization with its own spin on the facts, as you could find out by looking at its About web page:

"We work to find progressive and pragmatic solutions to significant domestic and international problems and develop policy proposals that foster a government that is "of the people, by the people, and for the people." We believe in honoring work, building strong communities, fostering effective government and encouraging free and fair markets.

Every day we challenge conservative thinking that undermines the bedrock American values of liberty, community and shared responsibility."

Not exactly an unbiased source.

Not one of those answers my question, which was how are Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter suppressing your freedom of speech?

Hmmm. I'd say a liberal's death would kinda put their freedom of speech out the door don't ya think?

I'm still getting stuff. It'll take a few min. though.

Not one of those answers my question, which was how are Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter suppressing your freedom of speech? As for your Sean Hannity info website, it is clearly a left-leaning organization with its own spin on the facts, as you could find out by looking at its About web page:

"We work to find progressive and pragmatic solutions to significant domestic and international problems and develop policy proposals that foster a government that is "of the people, by the people, and for the people." We believe in honoring work, building strong communities, fostering effective government and encouraging free and fair markets.

Every day we challenge conservative thinking that undermines the bedrock American values of liberty, community and shared responsibility."

Not exactly an unbiased source.

Not actively supressing it, but threatening it by dint of antidemocratic views that they propagate. Of course we should all have the freedom to speak our views, but Coultier doesn't actually agree with that. Here she is seen advocating criminal destruction of journalistic enterprises that say things that she doesn't like, and politically motivated executions to intimidate those who would oppose her party's rule. She is a Fascist, and that is no exaggeration. All Fascists have the right to speak freely, within the limits that limit everyone else, but all Fascists are also still a threat to liberty and democracy.

Post Script:

I have not mentioned Hannity. Re: himself and O'Rielly I don't much care. Their well-known (to all but it seems their fans) tactics of shouting-down their opposition I would complain about, but that only shows that they are jackasses. They do not supply the kind of concisely presented attacks on the ethos behind the First Amendment that Coultier does, which is to say, I have yet to hear them advocating violence against the political opposition.

Just to show I'm not the only one that hears Hannity interrupting people every single time...

http://www.oliverwillis.com/node/view/1057

This is a slightly biased site, but it's true in this respect and they have Kerry's lies too...
http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/sean_hannity.html

And then there was MSNBC's Michael Savage. He wished a death on a caller by AIDS. Here's the story.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/6251351.htm?1c

And then there was MSNBC's Michael Savage. He wished a death on a caller by AIDS. Here's the story.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/6251351.htm?1c

To save us all from having to Create Account, can you cut&paste here, if it's not too big?

She's got dollar signs in her eyes my friend. Since she isn't pretty or smart enough to be an anchor she rants and raves and gets publicity by saying highly inflammatory things.


Sounds like Micheal moore to me...

To save us all from having to Create Account, can you cut&paste here, if it's not too big?

Sure!


MSNBC fires Savage on anti-gay remarks

DAVID BAUDER

Associated Press

NEW YORK - MSNBC on Monday fired Michael Savage for anti-gay comments.

The popular radio talk show host who did a weekend TV show for the cable channel referred to an unidentified caller to his show Saturday as a "sodomite" and said he should "get AIDS and die."

"His comments were extremely inappropriate and the decision was an easy one," MSNBC spokesman Jeremy Gaines said.

There was no immediate comment from Savage, according to a spokesman at his office in California.

The brash, tough-talking Savage is one of radio's hottest jocks. His Paul Revere Society advocates closing borders, deporting illegal immigrants, mandating health tests for immigrants and eliminating entitlement programs.

The televised version of "The Savage Nation" began March 8 despite the protests of such advocacy groups as the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation.

Aired at 5 p.m. EDT Saturday, Savage didn't translate into a television hit. He increased the ratings for the time slot marginally, according to MSNBC.

The incident that resulted in his firing began innocently enough. Savage was taking viewer phone calls about airline horror stories, and a male caller began talking about smoking in the bathroom.

"Half an hour into the flight, I need to suggest that Don and Mike take your ..." the caller said, before he was cut off and his words became unintelligible.

"So you're one of those sodomists. Are you a sodomite?" Savage asked.

The caller replied: "Yes, I am."

"Oh, you're one of the sodomites," Savage said. "You should only get AIDS and die, you pig. How's that? Why don't you see if you can sue me, you pig. You got nothing better than to put me down, you piece of garbage. You have got nothing to do today, go eat a sausage and choke on it."

He asked for another phone caller who "didn't have a nice night in the bathhouse who's angry at me today."

These bums "mean nothing to me," he said.

GLAAD spokeswoman Cathy Renna said of Savage's firing: "It's about time.

"This latest attack made the clearest case for why Savage has no place on any reputable news network. MSNBC witnessed firsthand exactly the kind of verbal assaults GLAAD's been warning them about for the past five months, and to their credit, they backed up their promises to hold Savage accountable."

It's pretty sad Savage gets any airtime at all.

Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity are NOT stupid. They're anything BUT stupid. They're highly intelligent, and they know EXACTLY what they're doing. Sometimes we librals see all the things they're saying and don't get how they could say these things and NOT be stupid. Unfortunatly, we forget that half of America thinks like they do, and agrees with them. Half of America is sitting there, nodding it's head to everything they say. Sometimes, we forget that.

So when they say things like,

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity!" -- Ann Coulter

We get confused. We can't comprehend why they would say that unless they were crazy, or just plain stupid.

They're not. They're calculated. They're talking to their BASE. Just like Micheal Moore is when he compares the Bush Administration to the characters from Bonanza.

Political Commentators are highly intelligent people who KNOW HOW TO HOOK YOU. They say the things that they think will make you laugh, make you cry, and make you listen to them some more. They say these things till you trust them, then they will convince you to believe what they believe. They're like the snake in the Garden of Eden.

They can be amusing, vindictive, and occasionally right...

but are mostly just a bunch of spin masters.

the most HONEST people in the media, in MY OPINION, are Joe Scarborough and Ron Reagan JR. They're the only people I've seen with honest differences being able to argue about them in a quiet manner, without fighting. Without screaming. Without name calling. They respect eachother, and have honest debate. I think some of my favorite memories of this campaign was watching their "After Hours" on MSNBC. The ratings were so good, MSNBC has made it a main show.

Honesty is the most rare thing in Politics, it's nice when you have some folks who let it show.

If Conservatives can forgive Librals for calling them stupid, Librals can surely forgive Conservatives for calling them Traitors and Un-Patriotic. And maybe, for five seconds, we can all remember that we're AMERICANS before we're REPUBLICANS or DEMOCRATS.

Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity are NOT stupid.

I didn't say they were. I said they were morons. So is Michael Moore in my opinion. All extremeists are, in my opinion. This thread was my opinion, and some others' too. Nothing more. The Democrats lost and the Republican pundits started smearing crap in the losers faces. Is that a sign of coming together? Libertarians such as myself are just looking on in astonishment.

That's just how people are.

I live in Texas. When I go to school, do you think people pat me on the back and say, "oh...sorry you lost..."

hell. no.

I get a bunch of teenagers just yelling at me about how this proves they were right about everything.

Which is ridiculas and childish, but that's what it is, and that's why you have to take it with a grain of salt.

You're opinion is that they're morons. Mine is that they're anything but morons. That's my opinion. Is that so wrong? Geeze.

And maybe it's because I live in Texas that I've learned to live with people saying really shocking things like, "I hope god kills you in your sleep tonight, because you're a sinner, a dyke, and a liberal!"

It's ridiculas. It's so difficult to talk to these people, but it IS possible. I hate people like Hannity and Coulter, because they only encourage this bigotted behaviour.

But I think it's best if we just be adults about it. Let them rant and rave. Let them spew their hate and idiotic words to like-minded people. For all the good it's done them, the Country is getting more liberal. Four more years of their mouths, and Shrub, will either ensure Liberals a chance in the Whitehouse (if the democrats can get it together) or will ensure total anarchy.

but maybe I'm just a bit of an extreamist, too. :D

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edit: I'd love to continue this, but it's 3 AM here, and I've got to go to school in 3 hours. And I'm already falling asleep. I mean. I misspelled "Liberal" like 50 times in that first post. "Libral". bah. sleep!

Loser Liberals, WAKE UP. Censorship ended with cable/satellite TV, Al Gore's "invention" of the internet, and "Talk Radio" (which has NO successful liberals). Rural and suburban Americans have learned to ignore the biases of the liberal networks, and they always vote. Urban Americans pontificate to themselves, but they are too "busy" to vote (possibly due to the long lines for unemployment, welfare, foodstamps, stemcell grants, etc.). :sniper:

Loser Liberals, WAKE UP. Censorship ended with cable/satellite TV, Al Gore's "invention" of the internet, and "Talk Radio" (which has NO successful liberals). Rural and suburban Americans have learned to ignore the biases of the liberal networks, and they always vote. Urban Americans pontificate to themselves, but they are too "busy" to vote (possibly due to the long lines for unemployment, welfare, foodstamps, stemcell grants, etc.). :sniper:

It's funny. You're fingers are moving, you're typing, and people see it.

And yet all I see written down is "bitch bitch bitch, whine whine whine OMG PARTISANSHIP ROFFLING!"

Loser Liberals, WAKE UP. Censorship ended with cable/satellite TV, Al Gore's "invention" of the internet, and "Talk Radio" (which has NO successful liberals). Rural and suburban Americans have learned to ignore the biases of the liberal networks, and they always vote. Urban Americans pontificate to themselves, but they are too "busy" to vote (possibly due to the long lines for unemployment, welfare, foodstamps, stemcell grants, etc.). :sniper:

I see. And yet I see the average American here in conservative old Virginia watching NBC and CBS news everyday. No one gives a damn about Rush or Ann Coulter here unless they are a rich redneck. Most here actually have lives unlike me and you. They don't listen to talk radio or have satellite tv. The most people around here get about politics is usually Johnboy and Billy!

Maybe you should stop thinking all poor are democrats and maybe I'll stop thinking half of the republicans are snobs. Now, what did this have to do with me again. I'm not a dem. and I'm not a rep.

I see. And yet I see the average American here in conservative old Virginia watching NBC and CBS news everyday. No one gives a damn about Rush or Ann Coulter here unless they are a rich redneck. Most here actually have lives unlike me and you. They don't listen to talk radio or have satellite tv. The most people around here get about politics is usually Johnboy and Billy!

Maybe you should stop thinking all poor are democrats and maybe I'll stop thinking half of the republicans are snobs. Now, what did this have to do with me again. I'm not a dem. and I'm not a rep.

My statement had nothing to do with you, specifically. (Although, you seem to be proud of your political non-affiliation.) "Undecideds" wander around in the "middle-of-the-road", and often get "run over", as you did in this election. My point (which you missed), was that most Americans who vote, no longer believe NBC/ABC/CBS/CNN. Conservative truths are now widely aired, and spread if office coffee rooms (to people who still watch CBS,but don't listen to Rush). The truth sinks in, and the liberal democrat bias is ignored. Selfish, brainwashed (braindead?) Democrat sheep whine and bitch (like the clone who posted between us), but they can't find their polling place.

The moral of the story?

Hannity will be rushed to the hospital with a hamster in his ass and Coulter will end up dropping babies out of helicopters, just wait and see it' ll happen! I guarantee!

So will Coulter be dropping the babies of Liberals from helicopters, will she be squatting on the edge of the helicopter dropping babies period?

:D

I have come to the conclusion that the 2 people that are the greatest threats to democracy are Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter. Will someone please argue with them and make like debate rules that say they can't talk over you when you are losing?! Why is the news even talking to Ann. She's the biggest bitch the world has ever seen! Seroiously, these 2 have claimed that the Republican party should be in power forever and will be. Granted, I'm not a democrat, but these 2 still get on my nerves. They make O'reilly look like he's liberal! (Actually I like O'reilly, cause he supports gay marriage.) What do you think bout these two?
So this kind of bitter hate is allowed, but you wish one person good luck on their emmigration and you get banned...

I have come to the conclusion that the 2 people that are the greatest threats to democracy are Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter. Will someone please argue with them and make like debate rules that say they can't talk over you when you are losing?! Why is the news even talking to Ann. She's the biggest bitch the world has ever seen! Seroiously, these 2 have claimed that the Republican party should be in power forever and will be. Granted, I'm not a democrat, but these 2 still get on my nerves. They make O'reilly look like he's liberal! (Actually I like O'reilly, cause he supports gay marriage.) What do you think bout these two?

Going back to the beginning:

1. The US is not (AND NEVER WAS) a democracy. In a democracy, all residents (citizens?) can vote, with equal weight. IN THE BEGINNING OF THE US, only white-male-property-owners voted. [Why did those "rich guys" do that???]
To vote in the US Today, you must be a citizen, over 18, and not a felon (unless you sign up with a Kerry dupe [then, you can be a dead terrorist, and democrats will motor-voter register for you [with NO ID] and cast "your" vote [multiple times] for their "candidate", and their lawyers will support your vote up to the US Supreme Court, regardless of "CHADS" and "language barriers").

2. If you don't agree with Sean and/or Ann, call them and express your point of view [demonstrate your ignorance]. Listeners enjoy the bias of ignorant phone-ins, as do their current (and future?) sponsors.

3. TO UGANIN (whatever that means), Thanks for wasting your "Libertarian" (meaningless) vote. You could have (meaninglessly) voted for Klumsey and Edwasn't.

4. Why are your "followers" so concerned with pregnant rodents [hamsters]?

5. I'm a new guy. Tell me if you think that I should start a new thread/site. I'm young, retired (successfully), and would consider talking to "UGANIN".

Going back to the beginning:

1. The US is not (AND NEVER WAS) a democracy. In a democracy, all residents (citizens?) can vote, with equal weight. IN THE BEGINNING OF THE US, only white-male-property-owners voted. [Why did those "rich guys" do that???]
To vote in the US Today, you must be a citizen, over 18, and not a felon (unless you sign up with a Kerry dupe [then, you can be a dead terrorist, and democrats will motor-voter register for you [with NO ID] and cast "your" vote [multiple times] for their "candidate", and their lawyers will support your vote up to the US Supreme Court, regardless of "CHADS" and "language barriers").

2. If you don't agree with Sean and/or Ann, call them and express your point of view [demonstrate your ignorance]. Listeners enjoy the bias of ignorant phone-ins, as do their current (and future?) sponsors.

3. TO UGANIN (whatever that means), Thanks for wasting your "Libertarian" (meaningless) vote. You could have (meaninglessly) voted for Klumsey and Edwasn't.

4. Why are your "followers" so concerned with pregnant rodents [hamsters]?

5. I'm a new guy. Tell me if you think that I should start a new thread/site. I'm young, retired (successfully), and would consider talking to "UGANIN".


I see you come seeking some kind of meaningful debate here. Well skip it. This forum is an advanced form of performance art.

Can I ask a question - who the Hell are any of these people you're talking about, anyway? Who's Anne Coulter or Sean Hannity? Why should I or anyone else care about what they have to say?

I see you come seeking some kind of meaningful debate here. Well skip it. This forum is an advanced form of performance art.

Who elected you? [And what is "performance art", if not a "forum where there is none"?]

By the way, what do you mean by "Well skip it". If you mean "We'll skip it.", your WE is WEAK.

Can I ask a question - who the Hell are any of these people you're talking about, anyway? Who's Anne Coulter or Sean Hannity? Why should I or anyone else care about what they have to say?

both right wing commentators from the US. listen to em at you peril ;) :D And no you shouldn't have to care if you don't want to.

She's got dollar signs in her eyes my friend. Since she isn't pretty or smart enough to be an anchor she rants and raves and gets publicity by saying highly inflammatory things.
Sounds like Micheal moore to me...


Can't justify one person's actions with another's

All of these jerks (Moore and Franken, included) are making shitloads of money by portraying talking points and rallying cries as news. They are no better than the asshole televangelists who rile their viewers into donating money. Same damn thing, but nobody cares.

If you are trying to rile me into an argument, won't work, as you are just repeating what I said earlier.

I see you come seeking some kind of meaningful debate here. Well skip it. This forum is an advanced form of performance art.

I've researched, and noticed that you specialize in short, unsupported, meaningless, responses.

Quit wasting our time. :sniper:

I've researched, and noticed that you specialize in short, unsupported, meaningless, responses.

Quit wasting our time. :sniper:

Hey it's all in how you perceive it, dude. I've found DeaconDave to have a good wry sense of humour at times, and I haven't felt that he's been wasting MY time, so don't presume to speak on anyone's behalf but your own.

My research indicates you haven't been posting long, so maybe you need to rethink your position somewhat.

Hey it's all in how you perceive it, dude. I've found DeaconDave to have a good wry sense of humour at times, and I haven't felt that he's been wasting MY time, so don't presume to speak on anyone's behalf but your own.

My research indicates you haven't been posting long, so maybe you need to rethink your position somewhat.

I suggest that readers research your biased socialist history, as I have. I am open to a real debate. Bush won, you lost, get on line to get a passport to CANADIA. If you want to return, you will wait on line, and start on the BOTTOM.

I suggest that readers research your biased socialist history, as I have. I am open to a real debate. Bush won, you lost, get on line to get a passport to CANADIA. If you want to return, you will wait on line, and start on the BOTTOM.

Do you need coffee or down time, friend? You're not actually making sense there, you realize. I'm not trying to bait you, BTW. Why are you now suddenly grinding an axe?

Do you need coffee or down time, friend? You're not actually making sense there, you realize. I'm not trying to bait you, BTW. Why are you now suddenly grinding an axe?

I'm looking at his/her name, so me thinks he/she already has an axe to grind, and nowt is going to stop him/her. (Please delete as appropriate :p :D )

I'm looking at his/her name, so me thinks he/she already has an axe to grind, and nowt is going to stop him/her. (Please delete as appropriate :p :D )

Well, apart from being a mostly pointless exercise, it's really moving away from the intended purpose of this thread, so I'll stop posting wiseass commentary here.

seeya, BL.

Do you need coffee or down time, friend? You're not actually making sense there, you realize. I'm not trying to bait you, BTW. Why are you now suddenly grinding an axe?

A debate requires facts, no only opinions. (and kill??guy is in left field)

Going back to the beginning:

1. The US is not (AND NEVER WAS) a democracy. In a democracy, all residents (citizens?) can vote, with equal weight. IN THE BEGINNING OF THE US, only white-male-property-owners voted. [Why did those "rich guys" do that???]
To vote in the US Today, you must be a citizen, over 18, and not a felon (unless you sign up with a Kerry dupe [then, you can be a dead terrorist, and democrats will motor-voter register for you [with NO ID] and cast "your" vote [multiple times] for their "candidate", and their lawyers will support your vote up to the US Supreme Court, regardless of "CHADS" and "language barriers").

2. If you don't agree with Sean and/or Ann, call them and express your point of view [demonstrate your ignorance]. Listeners enjoy the bias of ignorant phone-ins, as do their current (and future?) sponsors.

3. TO UGANIN (whatever that means), Thanks for wasting your "Libertarian" (meaningless) vote. You could have (meaninglessly) voted for Klumsey and Edwasn't.

4. Why are your "followers" so concerned with pregnant rodents [hamsters]?

5. I'm a new guy. Tell me if you think that I should start a new thread/site. I'm young, retired (successfully), and would consider talking to "UGANIN".

I see you come seeking some kind of meaningful debate here. Well skip it. This forum is an advanced form of performance art.

I do believe that DeaconDave was sarcastically mocking your less than adequate debate tactics.

Saying that democrats use dead terrorist to vote multiple times, telling someone to "voice their ignorance", calling a libertarian vote meaningless, calling the democratic candidates Klumsy and Edwasn't, and envoking pregnant rodents adds absolutely no credibility to your argument. When you take those statements out you managed to state that the US is not a true democracy and no one on NS will argue there.

You displayed all of the lesser qualities of Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, and Michael Moore in your post, and I think DeaconDave did a good job of pointing out the absurdity of your post.

A debate requires facts, no only opinions. (and kill??guy is in left field)


sorry but after your post, which i might point out was mostly opinions in itself, thats kinda hypocritical. and the what were you trying to say in the brackets?

I've researched, and noticed that you specialize in short, unsupported, meaningless, responses.

Quit wasting our time. :sniper:

No flaming. That's the rules. You would be better advised learning the rules of the forum, rather than researching other posters so you can indulge in ad hominem attacks.

Now, tell us how "hot" you think Ann Coulter is.

No flaming. That's the rules. You would be better advised learning the rules of the forum, rather than researching other posters so you can indulge in ad hominem attacks.

Now, tell us how "hot" you think Ann Coulter is.

I'm going to laugh all day over that one.

No flaming. That's the rules. You would be better advised learning the rules of the forum, rather than researching other posters so you can indulge in ad hominem attacks.

Now, tell us how "hot" you think Ann Coulter is.

To Deacon; Ann is hot (way above average). Also, What is FLAMING?

To Kellary: Please speak Earth-talk.

To Vittos; The US is (fortunately) NOT A DEMOCRACY.

To Deacon; Ann is hot (way above average). Also, What is FLAMING?

To Kellary: Please speak Earth-talk.

To Vittos; The US is (fortunately) NOT A DEMOCRACY.

er me thinks that

(kill?? guy is in the leftfield)

doesn't make much sense.

To Deacon; Ann is hot (way above average). Also, What is FLAMING?


You really are new here, aren't you?

Edit: BTW the US is a democracy, operatively, if not constitutionally.

You really are new here, aren't you?

Edit: BTW the US is a democracy, operatively, if not constitutionally.

No, only 470 people actually cast a vote for the president.

Ann Coulter looks like a skinny blonde man with long hair.

You really are new here, aren't you?

Edit: BTW the US is a democracy, operatively, if not constitutionally.

The US is not (and never has been) a "democracy", and it forbidden (fortunately) by our Constitution.

Also, I'm not "NEW". I'm probably older (and smarter and richer) than you are.

The US is not (and never has been) a "democracy", and it forbidden (fortunately) by our Constitution.

Also, I'm not "NEW". I'm probably older (and smarter and richer) than you are.

and possibly more arrogant too, although we would never notice such a thing in text ;) :p :D

Also, I'm not "NEW". I'm probably older (and smarter and richer) than you are.

I'm beginning to wonder if this guy is for real.

No, only 470 people actually cast a vote for the president.

And how do those people get chosen?

Also, you seem unaware that the President is not the be all and end all of system of government.

Are you saying the UK is not a democracy also?

Ann Coulter looks like a skinny blonde man with long hair.

What is your point? Quit wasting our time.

er me thinks that

(kill?? guy is in the leftfield)

doesn't make much sense.

That is exactly the point.

What is your point? Quit wasting our time.

My point was to waste your time. And you obliged. I always do that to the ultra-smart and ultra-rich.

Edit: I was also trying to portray you as homosexual, I always do that to the ultra-smart and ultra-rich conservatives.

Edit: Edit: Closet homosexual I mean.

And how do those people get chosen?

Also, you seem unaware that the President is not the be all and end all of system of government.

Are you saying the UK is not a democracy also?

he's referring to the fact that the US is a democratic republic. If the country was a full-fledged democracy, the common man would vote for everything. That's not true in the US - we have representitives making a lot of decisions for us. The represetitives are elected democratically. Hence, a democractic republic.

i said

I'm looking at his/her name, so me thinks he/she already has an axe to grind, and nowt is going to stop him/her. (Please delete as appropriate :p :D )

then you said

A debate requires facts, no only opinions. (and kill??guy is in left field)

i was simply not making assumptions. if you mean what your sex is is located under you name, then i have to tell you that its not shown.

And how do those people get chosen?

Also, you seem unaware that the President is not the be all and end all of system of government.

Are you saying the UK is not a democracy also?


Of course the UK is not a democracy! You have a Queen and a Parliment.

The US is not (and never has been) a "democracy", and it forbidden (fortunately) by our Constitution.

Also, I'm not "NEW". I'm probably older (and smarter and richer) than you are.

Okay smarty.

Where is it specifically forbidden? Cite. Now.

Of course the UK is not a democracy! You have a Queen and a Parliment.

Oh, so now you are smarter than Winston Churchill, because he classed it as a democracy.

My point was to waste your time. And you obliged. I always do that to the ultra-smart and ultra-rich.

Edit: I was also trying to portray you as homosexual, I always do that to the ultra-smart and ultra-rich conservatives.

Edit: Edit: Closet homosexual I mean.

Wonderless. Keep wasting your time.

Wonderless. Keep wasting your time.

I am waiting for my cite. Stop insulting people and give it to me.

Oh, so now you are smarter than Winston Churchill, because he classed it as a democracy.

Look up "DEMOCRACY" in your local dictionary.

Wonderless. Keep wasting your time.

I will keep wasting my time as long as long as you waste your time. My time much less valuable than yours, since yours is filled with riding private jets, visiting elite opium dens in China, attending orgies in Spain, and consultations with the Pope.

And "wonderless" is a marvelous pun, spend all night on that one?

I will keep wasting my time as long as long as you waste your time. My time much less valuable than yours, since yours is filled with riding private jets, visiting elite opium dens in China, attending orgies in Spain, and consultations with the Pope.


<writes that down for future use> :D

Look up "DEMOCRACY" in your local dictionary.

No, dictionaries are not acceptable. No court in the land would take judicial notice of a dictionary definition of democracy when it was an issue at bar. As a rich guy I am sure your lawyers told you that.

Now, give me the cite to the consitution that prohibits democracy. Failing that the Court decision by SCOTUS that rules likewise.

What did you make your money in? Importing novelty goods?

I will keep wasting my time as long as long as you waste your time. My time much less valuable than yours, since yours is filled with riding private jets, visiting elite opium dens in China, attending orgies in Spain, and consultations with the Pope.

And "wonderless" is a marvelous pun, spend all night on that one?

I'm not wasting MY time. I'm retired, and having fun. You are wasting YOUR TIME.

I'm not wasting MY time. I'm retired, and having fun. You are wasting YOUR TIME.

So let me get this straight, you rich, retired and young, yet you choose to spend time writing on an internet forum and arguing with people rather than doing other things with your 'well earned' money...genius man, genius

I'm not wasting MY time. I'm retired, and having fun. You are wasting YOUR TIME.

Wow, you must have retired poor if this is the best fun you can afford. Shouldn't a billionaire like you be in Vegas instead of quoting talk-show hosts on-line.

Edit: beaten by Kell. Damn.

Wow, you must have retired poor if this is the best fun you can afford. Shouldn't a billionaire like you be in Vegas instead of quoting talk-show hosts on-line.

Edit: beaten by Kell. Damn.

had to happen some time ;) :D

No, dictionaries are not acceptable. No court in the land would take judicial notice of a dictionary definition of democracy when it was an issue at bar. As a rich guy I am sure your lawyers told you that.

Now, give me the cite to the consitution that prohibits democracy. Failing that the Court decision by SCOTUS that rules likewise.

What did you make your money in? Importing novelty goods?

LIGHTEN UP. I have no lawyers. I know what "democracy" means (LOOK IT UP) and we have never been one (and will never be one). You guys are very uninformed.

LIGHTEN UP. I have no lawyers. I know what "democracy" means (LOOK IT UP) and we have never been one (and will never be one). You guys are very uninformed.

Sorry to point this out, but as a politics student, you can have many forms of democracy. Just because what it says in the dictionary is:

de·moc·ra·cy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-mkr-s) n. pl. de·moc·ra·cies

1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
4. Majority rule.
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=democracy

it DOES NOT mean that because the US in not a democracy of its purest form, it is not a form of democracy.

EDIT: by the way, look at the bit i bolded for you.

No, dictionaries are not acceptable. No court in the land would take judicial notice of a dictionary definition of democracy when it was an issue at bar. As a rich guy I am sure your lawyers told you that.

Now, give me the cite to the consitution that prohibits democracy. Failing that the Court decision by SCOTUS that rules likewise.

What did you make your money in? Importing novelty goods?

I've never known a court to make a ruling on a "DICTIONARY DEFINITION".

I've never known a court to make a ruling on a "DICTIONARY DEFINITION".

Its called judicial notice.

And where is my cite to the portion of the consitution.

Sorry to point this out, but as a politics student, you can have many forms of democracy. Just because what it says in the dictionary is:

de·moc·ra·cy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-mkr-s) n. pl. de·moc·ra·cies

1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
4. Majority rule.
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=democracy

it DOES NOT mean that because the US in not a democracy of its purest form, it is not a form of democracy.

EDIT: by the way, look at the bit i bolded for you.

Get a real dictionary. Hillary Clinton's New World Crap speaks for itself. By the way, would your send your kids to her "Village". The US is hoping that she will run (and lose big) in 2008.

Get a real dictionary. Hillary Clinton's New World Crap speaks for itself. By the way, would your send your kids to her "Village". The US is hoping that she will run (and lose big) in 2008.

I think I just got whiplash from that 180. What does Hillary Clinton have to do with the constitution, the definition of democracy, or Ann Coulter?

Get a real dictionary. Hillary Clinton's New World Crap speaks for itself. By the way, would your send your kids to her "Village". The US is hoping that she will run (and lose big) in 2008.

I would sooner trust my children with Hillary Clinton than you. And I don't even like her.

I think I just got whiplash from that 180. What does Hillary Clinton have to do with the constitution, the definition of democracy, or Ann Coulter?

He thinks Hillary is "hot" too.

"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too."

A shinning display of immoral pragmatism.

And where is my cite to the portion of the consitution.

1. What law school did you ever see.

2. Read the (not very long) US Constitution.

3. Quit wasting everyone's time.

4. If this is against the law of this site, I wish to revise my statements to make them in conformance (or whatever).

Get a real dictionary. Hillary Clinton's New World Crap speaks for itself. By the way, would your send your kids to her "Village". The US is hoping that she will run (and lose big) in 2008.

Ok then

http://www.britannica.com/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=Democracy&query=Democracy

Main Entry: de·moc·ra·cy
Pronunciation: di-'mä-kr&-sE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -cies
Etymology: Middle French democratie, from Late Latin democratia, from Greek dEmokratia, from dEmos + -kratia -cracy
Date: 1576
1 a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
2 : a political unit that has a democratic government
3 capitalized : the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the U.S.
4 : the common people especially when constituting the source of political authority
5 : the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges


in other words, you can't win this one, and if you tell me to get another "real dictionary" you are just proving the point that your argument is baseless

1. What law school did you ever see.

2. Read the (not very long) US Constitution.

3. Quit wasting everyone's time.

4. If this is against the law of this site, I wish to revise my statements to make them in conformance (or whatever).

Wow, that may be the first "I can't prove my point whatsoever" concession speech I have seen on NS. Most people keep on fighting their unfounded arguments, but he managed to abandon it altogether. I doubt we'll see much of him again.

Oh yeah, and quit wasting everybody's time.

Oh yeah, and quit wasting everybody's time.

hehehe :D

I would sooner trust my children with Hillary Clinton than you. And I don't even like her.

I have several successful adult children, all of whom know that the Clintons are liers. You want to send your children to CLINTON CLONES UNIVERSITY!!

1. What law school did you ever see.


Fordham, now get me my cite.

I have several successful adult children, all of whom know that the Clintons are liers. You want to send your children to CLINTON CLONES UNIVERSITY!!

I'm sorry. Was that an attempt at a joke?

Get a real dictionary. Hillary Clinton's New World Crap speaks for itself. By the way, would your send your kids to her "Village". The US is hoping that she will run (and lose big) in 2008.

Invest in a real dictionary, please.

I'm not letting him quit until he admits he is wrong. And thinks Hillary is "hot" too.

I have several successful adult children, all of whom know that the Clintons are liers. You want to send your children to CLINTON CLONES UNIVERSITY!!

Now I'm sure this is just a joke. This guy isn't serious, who are you really?

Originally Posted by BlindLiberals
Get a real dictionary. Hillary Clinton's New World Crap speaks for itself. By the way, would your send your kids to her "Village". The US is hoping that she will run (and lose big) in 2008.


Invest in a real dictionary, please.

Who replies to their own post? :S

If you are real you must be rich to feed a house full of "adult children". They must eat a shitload. Luckily for me, the meal plans at CCU are extremely cheap and all my little commie bastards are well taken care of, even on my modest income.

Invest in a real dictionary, please.

Erm, the Encyclopaedia Britannica and its associate Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary are real dictionaries. Or are you so far gone that you fail to notice this. Would you like to fax you the definition, or maybe i can scan and e-mail it you by .pdf. Or, oh wait a second, buy yourself a real dictionary and look it up yourself. :D

hehehe :D

good one

good one

yeah, because your worldy wit and humour is so much better

good one

GREAT ONE!!!!

To much.

Erm, the Encyclopaedia Britannica and its associate Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary are real dictionaries. Or are you so far gone that you fail to notice this. Would you like to fax you the definition, or maybe i can scan and e-mail it you by .pdf. Or, oh wait a second, buy yourself a real dictionary and look it up yourself. :D

This is not rocket science. Quit wasting time. A DEMOCRACY IS WHERE EVERYONE (including idiots) HAS ONE VOTE. The US Constitution DID NOT ESTABLISH THIS (and neither did ANY COUNTRY, EVER). DO NOT WASTE ANY MORE TIME QUOTING SOCIALIST "Dictionaries".

What I really dislike is that as soon as a person disagrees with what you believe, the call for censorship goes out. "I don't like Hannity, so he doesn't have the right to voice his opinion."

I guess freedom of speech only applies to the select few, eh?

Get a life.

What I really dislike is that as soon as a person disagrees with what you believe, the call for censorship goes out. "I don't like Hannity, so he doesn't have the right to voice his opinion."

I guess freedom of speech only applies to the select few, eh?

Get a life.
Who said Hannity does not have the right to voice his opinion?

This is not rocket science. Quit wasting time. A DEMOCRACY IS WHERE EVERYONE (including idiots) HAS ONE VOTE. The US Constitution DID NOT ESTABLISH THIS (and neither did ANY COUNTRY, EVER). DO NOT WASTE ANY MORE TIME QUOTING SOCIALIST "Dictionaries".

:D Hahaha, I knew it, it's those evil publishing company socialists!! Damn them and their words!

This is not rocket science. Quit wasting time. A DEMOCRACY IS WHERE EVERYONE (including idiots) HAS ONE VOTE. The US Constitution DID NOT ESTABLISH THIS (and neither did ANY COUNTRY, EVER). DO NOT WASTE ANY MORE TIME QUOTING SOCIALIST "Dictionaries".

I'm going to say that Alansyists and this guy are the same guy sitting somewhere playing a drinking game and seeing how many people he can piss off.

This is not rocket science. Quit wasting time. A DEMOCRACY IS WHERE EVERYONE (including idiots) HAS ONE VOTE. The US Constitution DID NOT ESTABLISH THIS (and neither did ANY COUNTRY, EVER). DO NOT WASTE ANY MORE TIME QUOTING SOCIALIST "Dictionaries".

Oh dear, its seems we have hit a nerve, and which (non-socialist of course) dictionary did you get this from? Everyone gets a vote then, really, even babies?

As i stated earlier, you are talking about a pure democracy, yet there is more than one type of democracy. The US is a constitutional democracy. Go get a book on politics, a dictionary and some kind of intelligence then come back and argue.

This is not rocket science. Quit wasting time. A DEMOCRACY IS WHERE EVERYONE (including idiots) HAS ONE VOTE. The US Constitution DID NOT ESTABLISH THIS (and neither did ANY COUNTRY, EVER). DO NOT WASTE ANY MORE TIME QUOTING SOCIALIST "Dictionaries".

So now you hate all dictionaries?

I'm going to say that Alansyists and this guy are the same guy sitting somewhere playing a drinking game and seeing how many people he can piss off.

i'm somehow inclined to agree with you, but i want to see what crap he comes up with next :D

If you are real you must be rich to feed a house full of "adult children". They must eat a shitload. Luckily for me, the meal plans at CCU are extremely cheap and all my little commie bastards are well taken care of, even on my modest income.

My children feed their children IN THEIR OWN HOMES. If your children are depending on you, all of you messed up. DUH

My children feed their children IN THEIR OWN HOMES. If your children are depending on you, all of you messed up. DUH

Wow, if he is meant to be more intelligent than us, he is doing a damn good job of hiding this assumed intelligence :p

So now you hate all dictionaries?

Try to be useful, or GET LOST.

He's lulling the "socialists" into a false sense of security. DUH

My children feed their children IN THEIR OWN HOMES. If your children are depending on you, all of you messed up. DUH

But you retired young?

Try to be useful, or GET LOST.

If you just want to be deleted, you can ask the mods directly. They'll do it.

Wow, if he is meant to be more intelligent than us, he is doing a damn good job of hiding this assumed intelligence :p

Is that so hard to understand?

My children feed their children IN THEIR OWN HOMES. If your children are depending on you, all of you messed up. DUH

Ohhhh, I see.

I thought by "adult children" you meant that they of an adult age, but retarded so you still had to care for them, but now I see you just gave up on your malformed offspring.

You are hardcore capitalist.

I used to listen to talk radio a lot, but I just can't handle it anymore. I live in Phoenix, AZ and used to listen 550 KFYI (http://kfyi.com/) (Clear Channel). They had a local guy named Charles Goyette (http://charlesgoyette.com/) on at drive time. I started listening to Hannity when his radio show first went nation-wide, but I didn't really like him. I can't handle the way he interviews. He never let's logic get in the way of rhetorical blather. He can talk for hours without saying anything at all. I was astonished how many people liked him. He shares all of Limbaughs bad traits, but none of his good ones.

I'm still a big fan of Charles Goyette, but he lost his job for opposing the Iraq war (http://charlesgoyette.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=4&Itemid=27). He's now doing mornings on recent upstart 1100 KFNX (http://1100kfnx.com/). He's an old-school Barry Goldwater type conservative and switched from the Republican party to the Libertarian party this year. The funny thing about this station is that it now has strongly partisan liberal in the aftertoon followed by Micheal Savage ("http://www.mind.net/basile/NationalID46.html) and it also has Tammy Bruce, a conservative lesbian.

I've listend to Savage a few times recently, and I'm astonished that he has fans. He blasts news agencies for not having enough pro-government bias and he's openly calling for martial law and supression of speech! If that's not facist I don't know what is.

I still listen to KFYI sometimes, like when Matt Drudge ("http://drudgereport.com/) is on. I don't share his partisanship, but I still like his show as long as he doesn't have that bitch Coulter on. I would think she'd sell more books if she kept her big stupid mouth shut. Drudge's show isn't anything like normal talk radio. No one else in the media does such a good job of reporting on the media.

I wish John Stossel had a radio show.

If you just want to be deleted, you can ask the mods directly. They'll do it.

Cant take the heat. Get out of the kitchen.

Cant take the heat. Get out of the kitchen.

You really took that one off the chin, Dave. This guys got more jabs than Rocky Marciano.

Wow, you must have retired poor if this is the best fun you can afford. Shouldn't a billionaire like you be in Vegas instead of quoting talk-show hosts on-line.

Perhaps he doesn't share your values. I would ask, why bother becoming rich if you're just going to blow it all in Vegas?

Is that so hard to understand?

No, but considering so far you have said argued against "socialist" dictionaries and their nasty nasty words, you claim to have retired young, yet have grand children, which most people are at around 50+ so not that young then are you (if you tell me to source it you can go find the nearest cliff and jump right off it), and apparently you are rich and successful, yet spend your time here.

so considering what you have told us, the value of your posts so far and your attempts at arguing, i can only assume that you are intelligently challenged :D

edit: i took away stupid as that would insult stupid people, and your obviously far worse

I used to listen to talk radio a lot, but I just can't handle it anymore. I live in Phoenix, AZ and used to listen 550 KFYI (http://kfyi.com/) (Clear Channel). They had a local guy named Charles Goyette (http://charlesgoyette.com/) on at drive time. I started listening to Hannity when his radio show first went nation-wide, but I didn't really like him. I can't handle the way he interviews. He never let's logic get in the way of rhetorical blather. He can talk for hours without saying anything at all. I was astonished how many people liked him. He shares all of Limbaughs bad traits, but none of his good ones.

I'm still a big fan of Charles Goyette, but he lost his job for opposing the Iraq war (http://charlesgoyette.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=4&Itemid=27). He's now doing mornings on recent upstart 1100 KFNX (http://1100kfnx.com/). He's an old-school Barry Goldwater type conservative and switched from the Republican party to the Libertarian party this year. The funny thing about this station is that it now has strongly partisan liberal in the aftertoon followed by Micheal Savage ("http://www.mind.net/basile/NationalID46.html) and it also has Tammy Bruce, a conservative lesbian.

I've listend to Savage a few times recently, and I'm astonished that he has fans. He blasts news agencies for not having enough pro-government bias and he's openly calling for martial law and supression of speech! If that's not facist I don't know what is.

I still listen to KFYI sometimes, like when Matt Drudge ("http://drudgereport.com/) is on. I don't share his partisanship, but I still like his show as long as he doesn't have that bitch Coulter on. I would think she'd sell more books if she kept her big stupid mouth shut. Drudge's show isn't anything like normal talk radio. No one else in the media does such a good job of reporting on the media.

I wish John Stossel had a radio show.

I am very liberal, but I find Drudge's website to be pretty decent also. I notice some strong slant, but he does a much better job than most of the politically motivated websites.

No, but considering so far you have said argued against "socialist" dictionaries and their nasty nasty words, you claim to have retired young, yet have grand children, which most people are at around 50+ so not that young then are you (if you tell me to source it you can go find the nearest cliff and jump right off it), and apparently you are rich and successful, yet spend your time here.

so considering what you have told us, the value of your posts so far and your attempts at arguing, i can only assume that you are stupid :D

There's nothing wrong with coming on here, there are a few older folks who come on here.

But the whole "SOCIALIST" dictionary thing is something I will never forget.

There's nothing wrong with coming on here, there are a few older folks who come on here.

But the whole "SOCIALIST" dictionary thing is something I will never forget.

I wasn't questioning him being on here because he says he is old, merely that he told us he retired young and yet has grand children. That makes it pretty hard to believe he retired young, as most people become grand parents at around 50ish, or so it seems.

You do realize that Michael Savage takes swings at Bush almost as often as he does at Kerry. The one instance I saw him in favor of Bush was when he supported the "Swift Boat Veterans" guys...but other than that, he routinely flames Bush for not remaining true to Conservative ideals. In fact, he was planning on just not voting, or voting for one of the independent candidates, until John Kerry said something that convinced Savage to "vote for the lesser evil".

Yes, talk show hosts are extreme. They have to be extreme, or they'll get shouted down by some of the callers they get. In many cases, what they say doesn't even reflect their own views...they just say the furthest-right thing they can, and let that inflame some of their listeners. I don't think that Michael Savage really advocates kicking Arabs off of a flight if there's more than 20 of them sitting near each other.

Cant take the heat. Get out of the kitchen.

Like I said, performance art. :)

Like I said, performance art. :)

Hey, if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch.

Perhaps he doesn't share your values. I would ask, why bother becoming rich if you're just going to blow it all in Vegas?

Thanks for talking. The previous guys are so biased (against someone that they don't even know), that I am shocked. I MAY be doing this as a college study project (Oops, That will get those anti-intellectuals upset.) [Translation = high school drop outs] But, maybe not. Let's see what the "smarties" do now. BUT, they still do not understand that the US has Constitutionally OUTLAWED DEMOCRACY (fortunately).

Thanks for talking. The previous guys are so biased (against someone that they don't even know), that I am shocked. I MAY be doing this as a college study project (Oops, That will get those anti-intellectuals upset.) [Translation = high school drop outs] But, maybe not. Let's see what the "smarties" do now. BUT, they still do not understand that the US has Constitutionally OUTLAWED DEMOCRACY (fortunately).

HAH, I KNEW YOU WERE FAKE!!!!

Thanks for talking. The previous guys are so biased (against someone that they don't even know), that I am shocked. I MAY be doing this as a college study project (Oops, That will get those anti-intellectuals upset.) [Translation = high school drop outs] But, maybe not. Let's see what the "smarties" do now. BUT, they still do not understand that the US has Constitutionally OUTLAWED DEMOCRACY (fortunately).

http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html

go on then, quote me line for line where the constitution says something along the lines of

"Here in these United States of America, we shall form a government not by the choice of the people in anyway shape or form, but by the choice of unelected representatives, and this country shall never have a government formed by the will of the people."

HAH, I KNEW YOU WERE FAKE!!!!

retired from selling lemonade on the street corner obviously, and his kids and grandkids are GI Joe and mini GI Joe :D

No, but considering so far you have said argued against "socialist" dictionaries and their nasty nasty words, you claim to have retired young, yet have grand children, which most people are at around 50+ so not that young then are you (if you tell me to source it you can go find the nearest cliff and jump right off it), and apparently you are rich and successful, yet spend your time here.

so considering what you have told us, the value of your posts so far and your attempts at arguing, i can only assume that you are intelligently challenged :D

edit: i took away stupid as that would insult stupid people, and your obviously far worse

WHAT??? Please tell me where you play poker.

WHAT??? Please tell me where you play poker.

WTF is this guy on?

Thanks for talking. The previous guys are so biased (against someone that they don't even know), that I am shocked. I MAY be doing this as a college study project (Oops, That will get those anti-intellectuals upset.) [Translation = high school drop outs] But, maybe not. Let's see what the "smarties" do now. BUT, they still do not understand that the US has Constitutionally OUTLAWED DEMOCRACY (fortunately).

You've never been to high-school. You bring up high-school drop outs only because you are jealous of them. And at least they got the chance to drop out.

the US has Constitutionally OUTLAWED DEMOCRACY

The United States are NOT a DEMOCRATIC nation?

Then WTF are the US thinking of when they go into Iraq to make it democratic? Huh?

Face it, the entire principles of this arrogant country and its idiot president are nothing but fake.

WHAT??? Please tell me where you play poker.

The game is no limit texas hold 'em, blinds are 10 - 20, 10 people at the table.

You are in 2nd to last position, holding QJ off suit, the player in 3rd position raises to 50, do you call?

No i do not call, cos the table is not (fair and ) balanced

ha ha ha bonk

http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html

go on then, quote me line for line where the constitution says something along the lines of

"Here in these United States of America, we shall form a government not by the choice of the people in anyway shape or form, but by the choice of unelected representatives, and this country shall never have a government formed by the will of the people."

GET A COPY OF THE US CONSTITUTION, which is still in force. Am I the only one who knows this??? {BY THE WAY, FRANCE ATTACKED AFRICA YESTERDAY WITHOUT ASKING THE "Untied Notions" IF IT WAS OK.}

GET A COPY OF THE US CONSTITUTION, which is still in force. Am I the only one who knows this??? {BY THE WAY, FRANCE ATTACKED AFRICA YESTERDAY WITHOUT ASKING THE "Untied Notions" IF IT WAS OK.}

Thats a copy of the constitution right there. go on, click on the link. it might suprise you. :D

GET A COPY OF THE US CONSTITUTION, which is still in force. Am I the only one who knows this??? {BY THE WAY, FRANCE ATTACKED AFRICA YESTERDAY WITHOUT ASKING THE "Untied Notions" IF IT WAS OK.}

You are the reason a conservative court upheld Roe v. Wade. It was an attempt to stop you contaminating the gene-pool.

I hope the upcoming draft gets your children and your grandkids and they are used to test landmines. Then we can all breathe easier.

GET A COPY OF THE US CONSTITUTION, which is still in force. Am I the only one who knows this??? {BY THE WAY, FRANCE ATTACKED AFRICA YESTERDAY WITHOUT ASKING THE "Untied Notions" IF IT WAS OK.}

Ohhh did France attack (!!!) Africa? What all of it? By itself? Oh naughty them. Go read the reports and find out that Africa isn't a country.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3567349.stm

yes, before you say it, its a "socialist" news source bla bla bla. just read it anyways

GET A COPY OF THE US CONSTITUTION, which is still in force. Am I the only one who knows this??? {BY THE WAY, FRANCE ATTACKED AFRICA YESTERDAY WITHOUT ASKING THE "Untied Notions" IF IT WAS OK.}

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041110/ap_on_re_af/ivory_coast

You won't actually read it so I will summarize it for you.

France and the UN began to launch a major evacuation as the government of Ivory Coast began encouraging the murder of all white people not just the French. The trouble was started when Ivory Coast warplanes killed 8 French peacekeepers and 1 AMERICAN aid worker.

Thats a copy of the constitution right there. go on, click on the link. it might suprise you. :D

Thanks. I have many (which I have read). While you socialist pontificate, I have to make a few Billion $ trades in Hong Kong. Study Up. There's going to be a test tomorrow. THERE IS ALWAYS A TEST TOMORROW. EVERY DAY, MORE CHINESE PEOPLE PASS THIS TEST than there are EYEBALLS IN EUROPE. Get with it, or get out of the way.

Thanks. I have many (which I have read). While you socialist pontificate, I have to make a few Billion $ trades in Hong Kong. Study Up. There's going to be a test tomorrow. THERE IS ALWAYS A TEST TOMORROW. EVERY DAY, MORE CHINESE PEOPLE PASS THIS TEST than there are EYEBALLS IN EUROPE. Get with it, or get out of the way.

okay

Quick quiz for you:

How many teeth are there in Europe?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041110/ap_on_re_af/ivory_coast

You won't actually read it so I will summarize it for you.

France and the UN began to launch a major evacuation as the government of Ivory Coast began encouraging the murder of all white people not just the French. The trouble was started when Ivory Coast warplanes killed 8 French peacekeepers and 1 AMERICAN aid worker.

STOP! We didn't vote for that.

okay

Quick quiz for you:

How many teeth are there in Europe?

ONE, it is in the jar in the bathroom.

Thanks. I have many (which I have read). While you socialist pontificate, I have to make a few Billion $ trades in Hong Kong. Study Up. There's going to be a test tomorrow. THERE IS ALWAYS A TEST TOMORROW. EVERY DAY, MORE CHINESE PEOPLE PASS THIS TEST than there are EYEBALLS IN EUROPE. Get with it, or get out of the way.

I see you used a dictionary to look up those long words then...i hope it wasn't a socialist one.

Off you toddle then, go and make your billions, and tell the chinese well done on passing their tests. :)

Thanks. I have many (which I have read). While you socialist pontificate, I have to make a few Billion $ trades in Hong Kong. Study Up. There's going to be a test tomorrow. THERE IS ALWAYS A TEST TOMORROW. EVERY DAY, MORE CHINESE PEOPLE PASS THIS TEST than there are EYEBALLS IN EUROPE. Get with it, or get out of the way.

Hong Kong markets are closed. Idiot.

STOP! We didn't vote for that.

You didn't need to, its French and UN troops there, i don't think any american troops are involved. So it doesn't matter that YOU didn't vote for it.

Hong Kong markets are closed. Idiot.

Hong Kong markets are never closed, IDIOT.

Hong Kong markets are never closed, IDIOT.

Yes they do. The close in the same way that the constitution permits democracy. Duh. Now grow up and learn something.

You didn't need to, its French and UN troops there, i don't think any american troops are involved. So it doesn't matter that YOU didn't vote for it.

Really, Why did it matter to the French and Germans that they didn"t vote to remove Saddam?

Yes they do. The close in the same way that the constitution prohibits democracy. Duh. Now grow up and learn something.

You're losing it. Stick to the facts, or study up.

You're losing it. Stick to the facts, or study up.

Well at least I know better than to make phantom trades.

Really, Why did it matter to the French and Germans that they didn"t vote to remove Saddam?

I apologise i was wrong. The US did vote for it, as a member of the security council. besides what does it matter to you. there are no US troops there.

Well at least I know better than to make phantom trades.

Have fun at work tomorrow; or get up early to be first on the unemployment line. There are no "phantom trades". They use real money, that is not distributed by Welfare offices.

Have fun at work tomorrow; or get up early to be first on the unemployment line. There are no "phantom trades". They use real money, that is not distributed by Welfare offices.

You don't even know what the hong-kong index is called do you?

I apologise i was wrong. The US did vote for it, as a member of the security council. besides what does it matter to you. there are no US troops there.

There is a rumor that Kerry will be appointed as the next ambassador to France. I hope they send him to the Ivory Coast with his medals.

You don't even know what the hong-kong index is called do you?

Do you have a point?

Do you have a point?

Yes. That you do not know what you are talking about.

Yes. That you do not know what you are talking about.

Yes, in San Diego we call it the "Hang Ten", and we trade it often. What do you do?

There is a rumor that Kerry will be appointed as the next ambassador to France. I hope they send him to the Ivory Coast with his medals.

Well he has been in a war zone before, unlike you i assume, so he's better qualified than some to deal with such situations.

Yes, in San Diego we call it the "Hang Ten", and we trade it often. What do you do?

Then you should know the markets there close.

Well he has been in a war zone before, unlike you i assume, so he's better qualified than some to deal with such situations.

1. You assume wrongly.
2. Kerry spoke against ACTIVE military in two (or many more) US wars.
3. You can get paid to go to Canada, if you promise (in a binding legal document) to never return. I can help you.

Then you should know the markets there close.

1. The markets in Hong Kong NEVER close.
2. AGAIN, WHAT DO YOU DO THAT MAKES YOU SO SMART?

Whether you like Sean or Ann, or even Rush for that matter, I couldn't give a rat's ass, when Micheal Moore is out there cutting and pasting movies together and actually winning something for it, all the while preaching anti-Americanism to the European crowds, who eat the stuff up, when Al Franken, who could probably go back to SNL and be a success this time, work with Air America, who has what? 20,21 stations maybe, if they can pay the bills, and then gets on Sundance as if people don't know who runs the show there, and calls it a success, success in radio is reaching a huge, multi-state, multi-walks of life audience, not just the liberal wackos who fought to keep Air America going despite nearly being taken off in Chicago. And of course, The New York F'n Times, who would rather print a million Abu Ghrab headlines than one thing good about what's happening in Iraq. I was wondering whether or not if they were gonna print a headline mirroring the Mirror in the UK about the people who voted Bush were dumb and all that bilge. Sean and Ann may not always be right, but with the higher ratings and the millions of books sold, and not to mention that little thing called the First Amendment, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

1. You assume wrongly.
2. Kerry spoke against ACTIVE military in two (or many more) US wars.
3. You can get paid to go to Canada, if you promise (in a binding legal document) to never return. I can help you.

1. Ok, fair enough.
2. America has Free Speech, if he felt it right to speak out, don't criticise him for it. Not every war the US has fought in has been justified.
3. *chuckles* You think i'm american? please don't be so naive.

For all those people out there who think Ann Coulter is a witch. Think again the reason why Liberals think that she is so horrible. Is because she is right, she always backs up her statements. Now Hannity on the other hand i still listen to him all the time although a little tiresome sometimes. Both are great individuals.

1. The markets in Hong Kong NEVER close.
2. AGAIN, WHAT DO YOU DO THAT MAKES YOU SO SMART?

1. Yes they do. And you should know that if you are making trades on them, but whatever.

2. I don't have to do ANYTHING to be smarter than you.

For all those people out there who think Ann Coulter is a witch. Think again the reason why Liberals think that she is so horrible. Is because she is right, she always backs up her statements. Now Hannity on the other hand i still listen to him all the time although a little tiresome sometimes. Both are great individuals.

So invading countries and killing their leaders whilst converting them to christianity is a good thing then? :rolleyes:

For all those people out there who think Ann Coulter is a witch. Think again the reason why Liberals think that she is so horrible. Is because she is right, she always backs up her statements. Now Hannity on the other hand i still listen to him all the time although a little tiresome sometimes. Both are great individuals.

You would be hard pressed to find an article where Ann Coulter backs up her sensationalism.

Yes, in San Diego we call it the "Hang Ten", and we trade it often. What do you do?


Oooh, the big markets in NY are about to open. I hope you are ready to make your "trades".

From Wikipedia:

Two days after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, her syndicated column included discussion of her close friend Barbara K. Olson, who was killed on American Airlines Flight 77 when terrorists crashed it into The Pentagon. In the last paragraph, Coulter wrote, "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity." A week later she detailed a five-point plan guided by an "all-new standard for airline safety procedures:...procedures that [actually] make the airplane safer" of which point 3 proposed "requir[ing] passports to fly domestically. Passports can be forged," she continued, "but they can also be checked with the home country in case of any suspicious-looking swarthy males." Point 4 observed, "All 19 hijackers in last week's attack appear to have been aliens.... [Legally,] Congress could pass a law tomorrow requiring that all aliens from Arabic countries leave." When the editors of the National Review, a well-known conservative magazine that included Coulter's syndicated column in its publication, said they would like to discuss making changes (Coulter, July 2002), she went on the national television show Politically Incorrect and accused them of censorship, claiming her pay was only five dollars per article. National Review Online then ended its relationship with Coulter. [2] (http://www.nationalreview.com/coulter/coulter091301.shtml) [3] (http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/coulter092001.asp) [4] (http://www.nationalreview.com/nr_comment/nr_comment100301.shtml)

Coulter was hired by USA Today to cover the 2004 Democratic National Convention, but was replaced with Jonah Goldberg after a "disagreement over editing".[5] (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/2004-07-26-coulter-column_x.htm) The column began "Here at the Spawn of Satan convention in Boston" and referred to an indefinite number of female attendees as "corn-fed, no make-up, natural fiber, no-bra needing, sandal-wearing, hirsute, somewhat fragrant hippie chick pie wagons". The newspaper did not print the column, but Coulter published it on her website [6] (http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2004/072604p.htm).

1. Ok, fair enough.
2. America has Free Speech, if he felt it right to speak out, don't criticise him for it. Not every war the US has fought in has been justified.
3. *chuckles* You think i'm american? please don't be so naive.

He did not only "SPEAK OUT", he lied to the American Public, like the Clintons. One paid "comrad" supported his BS, and 240 others (who also were there) said he was lying. [And he refused to release his records relating to the real history.]

He did not only "SPEAK OUT", he lied to the American Public, like the Clintons. One paid "comrad" supported his BS, and 240 others (who also were there) said he was lying. [And he refused to release his records relating to the real history.]

I am not arguing about his record. If he lied so be it. Point still remains that the US has fought in wars that it shouldn't have.

Just out of wondering, are you accusing Kerry of being a communist with the "comrad" remark?

1. Yes they do. And you should know that if you are making trades on them, but whatever.

2. I don't have to do ANYTHING to be smarter than you.

You are right. Now get ready to go to work.

He did not only "SPEAK OUT", he lied to the American Public, like the Clintons. One paid "comrad" supported his BS, and 240 others (who also were there) said he was lying. [And he refused to release his records relating to the real history.]

Everyone on his boat said he deserved the medals he got. The commanding officer who said that Kerry didn't deserve them, admitted to lying to slander Kerry. Hate Kerry if you like but don't present fabricated rhetoric as facts.

I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark here BL. Did you by any chance vote for Bush at the recent election?

I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark here BL. Did you by any chance vote for Bush at the recent election?

I doubt he is old enough to vote.

I am not arguing about his record. If he lied so be it. Point still remains that the US has fought in wars that it shouldn't have.

How do you know so much? What Intelligence Service do you work for? So far the US is fighting the world's terrorists everywhere (pretty successfully), and the French can barely blow up one helicopter in the Ivory Coast (of Africa), and they are now asking for American assistance!!!

I doubt he is old enough to vote.

True but its worth asking just to confirmor allay suspicion.

How do you know so much? What Intelligence Service do you work for? So far the US is fighting the world's terrorists everywhere (pretty successfully), and the French can barely blow up one helicopter in the Ivory Coast (of Africa), and they are now asking for American assistance!!!

Oh dear oh dear, looks like he is a complete f**k wit after all. oh well.

You are right. Now get ready to go to work.

I would, but I got fired for making after-hours trades on foreign markets (I thought they were open.)

True but its worth asking just to confirmor allay suspicion.

Typical Liberal Tripe. Lets set up a confrontation where the liars lose, and the honest win. I have the evidence. "Let's Roll". Tell me where and when, set up an escrow account (so you cannot cheat), and I will be there! Liberals are always suspicious, because THEY OFTEN CHEAT.

Typical Liberal Tripe. Lets set up a confrontation where the liars lose, and the honest win. I have the evidence. "Let's Roll". Tell me where and when, set up an escrow account (so you cannot cheat), and I will be there! Liberals are always suspicious, because THEY OFTEN CHEAT.

If you gave us a moderator I would debate your ass into the ground. It doesn't even matter what topic or what side I am on. I don't think we could get through a question without the moderator admonishing you though.

Edit: "debate your ass into the ground may be the dumbest thing I have ever said" but I will leave it up there for the world to marvel at.

Typical Liberal Tripe. Lets set up a confrontation where the liars lose, and the honest win. I have the evidence. "Let's Roll". Tell me where and when, set up an escrow account (so you cannot cheat), and I will be there! Liberals are always suspicious, because THEY OFTEN CHEAT.

What are you talking about? Since when have i lied on here? And what the hell makes you think i am a liberal anyways? Just because i don't like a person being tarnished by people who were not there about their past makes me a liberal does it. please, you being naive again.

If you gave us a moderator I would debate your ass into the ground. It doesn't even matter what topic or what side I am on. I don't think we could get through a question without the moderator admonishing you though.

i agree, all he does is avoid all the questions. Oh wait a liberal did that once...oh yeah it was Clinton, by his thinking that makes BL as bad as Clinton :D

I would, but I got fired for making after-hours trades on foreign markets (I thought they were open.)

I doubt it, but you can join the liers escrow below, with your liberal KerryLovers.

I doubt it, but you can join the liers escrow below, with your liberal KerryLovers.

hahaha...he thinks i like kerry...hehehe

Oh dear oh dear, looks like he is a complete f**k wit after all. oh well.

Nice language. Matches your IQ. I do not converse with the ignorant. Have the life that you deserve.

I doubt it, but you can join the liers escrow below, with your liberal KerryLovers.

Now, are you offering incentives, or just a relocation allowance?

And can I go anywhere I want?

Nice language. Matches your IQ. I do not converse with the ignorant. Have the life that you deserve.

Do not even think to presume my IQ. Converse with the ignorant? Wow, you think i'm ignorant now, brilliant, we are really getting somewhere. The fact (you notice that word?) that you claim that dictionaries are socialist (i can't get past how funny that is), you present us with varying accounts of what you do for a living and constantly go away from a subject makes it very hard to believe you know what you are talking about.

As for the life i deserve, i am happy with my life. how many people can truly say that?

If you gave us a moderator I would debate your ass into the ground. It doesn't even matter what topic or what side I am on. I don't think we could get through a question without the moderator admonishing you though.

Edit: "debate your ass into the ground may be the dumbest thing I have ever said" but I will leave it up there for the world to marvel at.

You and "Killarly, the pimp" can debate with Kerry the Wimp, I'm too busy.

You and "Killarly, the pimp" can debate with Kerry the Wimp, I'm too busy.

obviously you are, thats why you have been on here all day, rather than enjoying trading, or your retirement.

by the way, the little words that come up under the names are in relation to how many posts you have made. so don't think to presume any thing about me in terms of that either.

You and "Killarly, the pimp" can debate with Kerry the Wimp, I'm too busy.

Well Cya.

Make sure you come back now.

You and "Killarly, the pimp" can debate with Kerry the Wimp, I'm too busy.

Obviously not since you reply every 5 minutes, however this isn't as much fun as it was 2 hours ago when he was a young successfully retired closet-homosexual ranting about socialist dictionaries, pregnant hamsters, and being generally insulting.

Quite wasting everybody's time.

Obviously not since you reply every 5 minutes, however this isn't as much fun as it was 2 hours ago when he was a young successfully retired closet-homosexual ranting about socialist dictionaries, pregnant hamsters, and being generally insulting.

Quite wasting everybody's time.

Yes, he ran out of steam. :(

Maybe he lost all his money in the "hang ten"

I'm claiming all rights to the Land of Socialist Dictionaries as a new NS country :D

Why didn't I think of that.

Why didn't I think of that.

Caus i'm a pimp and you're a mere superior gamer :p hell have it if you want, i'm not bothered, i just thought it would but funny.

Caus i'm a pimp and you're a mere superior gamer :p hell have it if you want, i'm not bothered, i just thought it would but funny.

I'll get my pimphood one day. You'll see. :cool:

And go ahead and keep it. You called it and I don't know when I'd use it.

I just got on this site, and I have already run into people who hate freedom! I don't see how you can knock someone for having morals. They don't always follow them to a T, and they are still better off than any looney liberals.

"To think that you can live by one set of rules, and that your neighbor can live by a completely diffent set is insane!"
-Ann Coulter

At least they have values.

I just got on this site, and I have already run into people who hate freedom! I don't see how you can knock someone for having morals. They don't always follow them to a T, and they are still better off than any looney liberals.

"To think that you can live by one set of rules, and that your neighbor can live by a completely diffent set is insane!"
-Ann Coulter

At least they have values.

Are you saying i don't? Thanks for presuming my morals and values for me. :mad: :headbang:

Anyways, Dave and Vittos i'm off, thanks for sticking around :)

Your going to need that nation soon. :)

NP kell.

Stop putting words in my mouth! I was only making a point!

Stop putting words in my mouth! I was only making a point!

whoops, i know i know... just don't always presume us on the left of things (if thats where i am) don't have morals, we do, they are just different, but we have a right to our own morals as long as we don't impose them on others.

The idea is that under one nation there has to be a set of rules. No matter where these rules come from they have to exist. The only problem I see is when people are the ones left to make these important rules. :confused:

You and "Killarly, the pimp" can debate with Kerry the Wimp, I'm too busy.

whered you go. u seemed to b handling k+d+b prety good

is anyone there. that blind guy was ok

Rush is right, and is the man. Word to your mother!

Amen to that. Seriously though, how many of you have actually listened to Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter, Savage, etc? It's easy for leftists/liberals/progressives to hate them because they not only say what one disagrees with but are very effective at getting their message out.

Ann Coulter
Personally I understand what Coulter is trying to do: say outrageos things to throw liberals off of track. She is trying to make you hysterical and horrified. She is trying to take the nice image surrounding liberal ideas that have been promoted over the years. She is taking the fight to liberals in an in-your-face way.

Sean Hannity
Most people know Hannity also likes to get in peoples faces but he does make sure he gets his point across and if you won't argue him point-by-point, he'll start callling you on avoiding the question or whatever. O'Reilly does close to the same thing except I've notice that he seems to purposely take the middle of the road stance as his own. He calls himself a traditionalist but to me, that is like a liberal calling themself a progressive. O'Reilly definately leans towards the right, ever so slightly.

Rush Limbaugh
What I've found is that most people do not listen to Rush. They only react to his reputation of being a "drug addict, racist, homophobe, sexist, etc" when if you listen to his show for only 15 minutes you'd know otherwise. Granted, some people purposely take his sarcasm as fact and report as if what he's joking about is what he believes. Most people would save a lot of time with the news if they could just listen to his analysis of the media and you'd have a 2 day heads up on whatever political story is developing. And for those who say that Rush in only a mouthpiece for Republicans can easily be disproven if you would have listened to his show in the first two years of Bush's first term. Almost everyday Rush tore into Bush for his spending and some of his domestic polcies.

Et al
I don't get to listen to Savage much because there's no radio at work and by the time his show is on, I'm too tired to care about politics. So, take this opinion from a white, middle-class, conservative, Republican, 20 year old college student. I think most people should identify themselves (especially reporters) so we can put their opinions/reporting into percpective. The fact that the media here in America will not admit their bias is one small reason Bush won the election. People were tired of the media pretending that their news was unbiased and the op-eds we all see about how Bush-supporters are stupid or backwards or racist/homophobic just cement our view of the media as biased.

is anyone there. that blind guy was ok

I quite enjoyed his company also, his statements about Mirriam-Webster's Socialist Dictionary and sending our kids to Clinton Clones University are the things that legends are made of. If he sticks around future galaxian warriors will speak of him like they would Paul Bunyan or Pecos Bill.

I just got on this site, and I have already run into people who hate freedom! I don't see how you can knock someone for having morals. They don't always follow them to a T, and they are still better off than any looney liberals.

"To think that you can live by one set of rules, and that your neighbor can live by a completely diffent set is insane!"
-Ann Coulter

At least they have values.

Check out her other statements, about how liberalism is treason, how we should have political executions to instill fear into them, and how we should forcibly impose Christianity upon hostile arab nations. The bitch is a hypocrite on a grand scale if that quote you posted is hers, or else it is a sign that she is coming around to realize that she herself is insane. She is the one who hates freedom... the freedom of anyone who disagrees with her. Wake Up!

As regards the idea that she is just trying to provoke hysterical responses: if so she is a hypocrite and an ass-hole... well, an even bogger ass-hole than she seems. Pretending to be a Fascist is worse than being one.

Check out her other statements, about how liberalism is treason, how we should have political executions to instill fear into them, and how we should forcibly impose Christianity upon hostile arab nations. The bitch is a hypocrite on a grand scale if that quote you posted is hers, or else it is a sign that she is coming around to realize that she herself is insane. She is the one who hates freedom... the freedom of anyone who disagrees with her. Wake Up!

As regards the idea that she is just trying to provoke hysterical responses: if so she is a hypocrite and an ass-hole... well, an even bogger ass-hole than she seems. Pretending to be a Fascist is worse than being one.

I do believe Mesaton's post was sarcasm that, were it not for our more reactionary and defensive posters, should have been obvious.

If it isn't sarcasm then it is just laughable

I do believe Mesaton's post was sarcasm that, were it not for our more reactionary and defensive posters, should have been obvious.

If it isn't sarcasm then it is just laughable

I will not go looking for sarcasm in the post of a poster who has a total of three posts here. If it's obvious, that's one thing, but there is no experiencial basis to presume that it is there.

I will not go looking for sarcasm in the post of a poster who has a total of three posts here. If it's obvious, that's one thing, but there is no experiencial basis to presume that it is there.

I agree with you, I did not mean to imply that it was obvious. Just that the sheer number of posters who seriously believe things like this make impossible to decifer.

All of these jerks (Moore and Franken, included) are making shitloads of money by portraying talking points and rallying cries as news. They are no better than the asshole televangelists who rile their viewers into donating money. Same damn thing, but nobody cares.

Unfortunately, I am beginning to think that maybe Jon Stewart might be up to the same thing. A little to preachy, and he seems far too ready to get his face on any political show he can. I hope not though.
You're right, but I would let off Franken and Stewart, because they're funny.