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Does Race/Ethnicity Matter?

Brittanic States
08-11-2004, 00:51
Well?
Nimzonia
08-11-2004, 00:55
Not really.
Brittanic States
08-11-2004, 00:56
Not really.
Well said, What kind of evil **** cares about another persons race or ethnicity eh?
Conceptualists
08-11-2004, 00:57
Well said, What kind of evil **** cares about another persons race or ethnicity eh?
Well, sometimes it can be an interesting conversation topic.
Letila
08-11-2004, 01:00
I believe race is more of a cultural construct than anything.
Steel Butterfly
08-11-2004, 01:00
No, although it is an interesting way of division among people. There are differences, although not as dramatic as to deny one group the rights of another or something of that sort.
Skibereen
08-11-2004, 01:02
Since you didnt ask if it mattered to me directly, I will answer yes.
I say yes because I often fill out paper work that asks "Race?".
Would they ask if it didnt matter?
My city is considering creating a Race specific section of downtown where business will be(encouraged to be) owned Race(Negro) exclusivly.
So Race is obviously important to the City.
We already an Official "Mexican Town" though unlike what is being named African town the Hispanics encourage outside interests to come and invest in their neighborhood, to very fruitful results.
Does it mean anything to me?
Beyond some imaginary crutch, no not really.
I take my own heritage very seriously, but hey, its mine...I can do what I want with it.
As far who i am friends with?
Do business with?
Associate with?
No Race does not matter, to me.
Does it matter in society?
Unfortunately yes.
Superpower07
08-11-2004, 01:04
No it doesn't, but I voted for the 3rd option
The Isthmus
08-11-2004, 01:08
Nope, Race doesn't matter . . . unless you happen to be English :sniper: (Note that I'm Scottish :P)

But all joking aside, race does unfortunately matter to some segments of society. But fortunately rascism overall is in the decline! :)

Unfortunately, in some areas, it's on the rise :(
Katganistan
08-11-2004, 01:10
Well said, What kind of evil **** cares about another persons race or ethnicity eh?

Watch the language.
Whest and Kscul
08-11-2004, 01:12
I have noticed, Brittanic, that your other posts on other "ethnic," threads are targeting the thread as being rascist. Just because someone asked what the ethnicity of others are doesn't mean they want to squeeze information out of others and then insult them. I personally enjoy it when people tell me where their from.. one of my good friends is exactly 10% Irish, 10% Anglo-saxon, 20% Egpytian, 30% Japanese, and 30% Kenyan. And he looks Native American. Lol..

But if that's not what your getting at, disregard this post...
Brittanic States
08-11-2004, 01:12
Watch the language.
Nae worries- I will insult racists in less offensive words next time;) (can i call them bastards instead of c**ts? Or would you prefer gits?)
Markreich
08-11-2004, 01:15
Heaven is where:
the Police are British
the Cooks are French
the Mechanics are German
the Lovers are Italian
and everything is organized by the Swiss.

Hell is where:
the Police are German
the Cooks are British
the Mechanics are French
the Lovers are Swiss
and everything is organized by the Italians!!
Brittanic States
08-11-2004, 01:15
I have noticed, Brittanic, that your other posts on other "ethnic," threads are targeting the thread as being rascist. Just because someone asked what the ethnicity of others are doesn't mean they want to squeeze information out of others and then insult them. I personally enjoy it when people tell me where their from.. one of my good friends is exactly 10% Irish, 10% Anglo-saxon, 20% Egpytian, 30% Japanese, and 30% Kenyan. And he looks Native American. Lol..

But if that's not what your getting at, disregard this post...
Its cool dude, I am just looking for opinions.
The Force Majeure
08-11-2004, 01:17
Race? No. Culture? Yes.
Kneeelbowa
08-11-2004, 01:19
I don't think race matters at all (everyone looks the same flayed). However, ethnicity includes history and culture which can lead to certain values being held (or not) by the person in question.
Genaia
08-11-2004, 01:25
How about another response - your poll is dumb, I think that race matters but that does not make me a racist. Do you think it's a coincidence that all of the best sprinters in the world are black, or that certain countries excell in certain fields... Race is an issue, as is everything, it's simply a matter of how you interpret it that's important.

Oh and by the way, when your country plays a sport - which side do you cheer for?
Selgin
08-11-2004, 01:26
I don't think race matters at all (everyone looks the same flayed). However, ethnicity includes history and culture which can lead to certain values being held (or not) by the person in question.
I couldn't care less about a person's race on a personal level, or any other level. However, in my country, the great US of A, race has become an obsession. A person's race is considered in admission to college. Race is considered in hiring. Race is considered in giving out government contracts. Should race be considered in these cases with the argument that we need to overcome historical injustices, or ignored on the premise that race relations are advanced enough not to worry about it?
Talimenia
08-11-2004, 01:26
race is nothing. Its good to be proud of your culture, but not diss others. Under our skin we are all white/gray bones.
Talimenia
08-11-2004, 01:28
How about another response - your poll is dumb, I think that race matters but that does not make me a racist. Do you think it's a coincidence that all of the best sprinters in the world are black, or that certain countries excell in certain fields... Race is an issue, as is everything, it's simply a matter of how you interpret it that's important.

Oh and by the way, when your country plays a sport - which side do you cheer for?


I am from the USA, but in the Olympics soccer i cheered for Iraq.
Selgin
08-11-2004, 01:29
I am from the USA, but in the Olympics soccer i cheered for Iraq.
Because you are from Iraq, or because you hate the USA's war there?
Talimenia
08-11-2004, 01:30
B/c I thought they deserved to win, since Saddam's son Tourched them if they didn't (before the war).

I'm from Venezuala I moved to the US I support Bush and the war
Selgin
08-11-2004, 01:31
B/c I thought they deserved to win, since Saddam's son Tourched them if they didn't.

I'm from Venezuala I moved to the US I support Bush and the war
My bad. :)
Whest and Kscul
08-11-2004, 01:32
Because you are from Iraq, or because you hate the USA's war there?

Neither, most likely. If I had cheered them on, it would have probably been out of sympathy. Saddam Hussein (I read this in The New York Time) shut down (or destroyed, or did something bad like that) to the Iraqi soccer team, and now that he is gone, they can play normally again...
Talimenia
08-11-2004, 01:33
My bad. :)

When you drag your curser over the smilely he looks sad. :) = :(
Talimenia
08-11-2004, 01:34
Neither, most likely. If I had cheered them on, it would have probably been out of sympathy. Saddam Hussein (I read this in The New York Time) shut down (or destroyed, or did something bad like that) to the Iraqi soccer team, and now that he is gone, they can play normally again...

Yup thats what I said


G2G cya
Keruvalia
08-11-2004, 01:36
I think it depends on the context of the situation.

I trust my family more than I trust strangers and since my family is the same ethnicity as me, I must, therefore, trust my ethnicity more.

Anyway, enough about that.

Why are some people so deathly afraid of nouns and adjectives?

"I'm an American Indian"
"Dude, you shouldn't use labels!"
"But even my name is a label."
"Cast off the shackles of society, man!"
"Shackles and Society are both labels."
**Stupid hippy's head explodes**
"Do you want me to call an ambulance, or would you prefer I not use such labels?"
**The twitching stops**
"Morgue it is then."
The Lightning Star
08-11-2004, 01:41
I believe you should judge people by their actions, not the color of their skin, their religion, their language, their culture, or their way of life.

For Example, i would treat a good black muslim and a good white catholic and a good tan hindu and a good yellow(its the closet color i can think of...) budhist the same. HOWEVER, i would treat a bad white catholic and a good black muslim differently(and vice versa). I would treat the good person better than the bad person.
Zahumlje
08-11-2004, 01:44
Since you didnt ask if it mattered to me directly, I will answer yes.
I say yes because I often fill out paper work that asks "Race?".
Would they ask if it didnt matter?
My city is considering creating a Race specific section of downtown where business will be(encouraged to be) owned Race(Negro) exclusivly.
So Race is obviously important to the City.
We already an Official "Mexican Town" though unlike what is being named African town the Hispanics encourage outside interests to come and invest in their neighborhood, to very fruitful results.
Does it mean anything to me?
Beyond some imaginary crutch, no not really.
I take my own heritage very seriously, but hey, its mine...I can do what I want with it.
As far who i am friends wit
Do business with?
Associate with?
No Race does not matter, to me.
Does it matter in society?
Unfortunately yes.

Well I did answer yes because like it or not I may not, pigeon hole people by 'race' but I do tend to do it by ethnicity, or national origin. Not out of meaness or badness mind, but for entertainment purposes only :) I also like telling jokes about English people for example.
Readistan
08-11-2004, 02:12
Race matters look at the crime stats!

Roughly 14 TIMES more crime is commited in the UK by Blacks over Asian/Chinese.

You can look up the stats on the UK government statistics website.

Now whether this is cultural or genetic still doesn't change the above facts.
Galliam
08-11-2004, 02:24
Well, Japanese woman are hot, but I'm still pretty good towards white girls. Black woman aren't terrible, but I wouldn't say I'm attracted to them. But on the whole, I'd say no it doesn't matter.
Chodolo
08-11-2004, 03:13
Race matters look at the crime stats!

Roughly 14 TIMES more crime is commited in the UK by Blacks over Asian/Chinese.

You can look up the stats on the UK government statistics website.

Now whether this is cultural or genetic still doesn't change the above facts.
And your point? :)


This poll is stupid. This entire thread is stupid. You're trying to make a point, but you're making it wrong. There's nothing wrong with talking about race. It's fun and an interesting topic of conversation. If you had made a thread about affirmative action, I would have gladly voted against it, but in this thread, I must simply vote the third option, since I am neither a racist, nor pidgenhole people based on race, but still think race is fun to talk about.
Squashida
08-11-2004, 03:52
;) Dude, my view isn't up there. I'm sure people have said this but i'm lazy, tired, and don't feel like reading though the whole thread.

I think that people should be proud of thier heritiage, and people should all have the same opertuinities. Seriously though, some people talk about a colored blind society, ain't gonna happen children. anyone read the book the giver? we don't want that now do we, so we should, en mi opion, treat be aware of everyone's uniqiness and respect and enjoy them.