What Ethnicities are you?
What Ethnicities are you?
Lacadaemon
08-11-2004, 00:27
Guess.
Brittanic States
08-11-2004, 00:27
Who cares? Its only Skin
Lacadaemon
08-11-2004, 00:29
Who cares? Its only Skin
No that's not right.
Try again. :)
1/4 Polish
1/4 Latvian
1/2 Scottish.
Brittanic States
08-11-2004, 00:30
No that's not right.
Try again. :)
Scales? Fur? Help us out dude;)
Who cares? Its only Skin
No, its genes too.
Sdaeriji
08-11-2004, 00:31
1/4 Polish
1/4 Latvian
1/2 Scottish.
Congratulations, have a cookie.
I used to live in Gardner.
Kryogenerica
08-11-2004, 00:34
Not to be picky, but is your "ethnicity" remotely relevant in cyberspace? I've always thought that one of the best things about the net is the removal of visually triggered stereotypes. You don't know my sex, my gender, the colour of my skin or anything else about me apart from how I think. IMO, this allows opinions to be considered without dismissing them because of a persons physical characteristics. Surely that's better than not listening or giving an opinion more weight because of what you think you know based on appearance or location?
Lacadaemon
08-11-2004, 00:34
I would think from my name it is pretty obvious.
From Dictionary.com:
eth·nic
adj.
1.
a. Of or relating to a sizable group of people sharing a common and distinctive racial, national, religious, linguistic, or cultural heritage.
b. Being a member of a particular ethnic group, especially belonging to a national group by heritage or culture but residing outside its national boundaries: ethnic Hungarians living in northern Serbia.
c. Of, relating to, or distinctive of members of such a group: ethnic restaurants; ethnic art.
Ohioan Roman Catholic living in Western North Carolina.
25% Polish
25% Austrian
25% Japanese
25% a whole mess of stuff including Irish, American Indian (possibly Navajo), Hungarian and Croatian, plus a few other things.
My Polish and Austrian relatives are both Gentile and Jewish.
Conceptualists
08-11-2004, 00:35
Well half Dutch, half Irish.
But I may as well put in British and Catholic-Atheist as well.
Nimzonia
08-11-2004, 00:39
I think I'm mostly all English... Although I expect that makes me a combination of Anglo-Saxon, Celt and Norse, to some degree or another.
No, its genes too.
Jeans??? uh, Levi's
100% Human.
Whest and Kscul
08-11-2004, 00:42
Eastern Europe mostly.
A strange mix of Ukrainean (sp?), Latvian, Anglo-Saxon, and possibly Russian...
Conceptualists
08-11-2004, 00:42
I think I'm mostly all English... Although I expect that makes me a combination of Anglo-Saxon, Celt and Norse, to some degree or another.
Depends where about's in England you family is from. Northerners have a higher chance of having trace amounts of norse blood.
Nimzonia
08-11-2004, 00:44
Depends where about's in England you family is from. Northerners have a higher chance of having trace amounts of norse blood.
Well, half my family is from the north, at least. My mother always goes on about how she thinks her having red hair means norse genes, but I think she's just drunk.
Conceptualists
08-11-2004, 00:49
Well, half my family is from the north, at least. My mother always goes on about how she thinks her having red hair means norse genes, but I think she's just drunk.
I alsways thought having Red Hair was a Celtic characteristic.
But I'm not really interested in Hair colours of worldwide ethnicities so, yeah.....
Nimzonia
08-11-2004, 00:52
I alsways thought having Red Hair was a Celtic characteristic.
Me too. I'm just glad I didn't inherit it.
Most European ethnicities, along with Native American.
Solzhenitsynya
08-11-2004, 00:57
Despite the name of my nation, to my knowledge I have no Slavic blood. I feel a kind of affinity for the Russian people and am currently very interested in a lady of Romanian extraction, but I don't know if that counts. ;)
By blood, I am about half English, a quarter Norwegian, a bit of Scottish here, a little Irish there, and just a dash of German.
Steel Butterfly
08-11-2004, 00:58
75% Russian
25% English
I was born in Russia and moved to America around 13 years ago. My mother's father was English - everyone else was Russian.
Johnistan
08-11-2004, 00:59
25% Hungarian (my real name is Janos Kozma)
25% German
50% English
Kneeelbowa
08-11-2004, 01:01
Mix of Greco-Roman (i.e. Western) and Celtic culture, but the genes haven't changed much since neolithic settlers populated the British Isles. Still, the Celtic label is probably more meaningful than Irish, Scottish, Manx, Welsh or Breton. You shouldn't split an ancient people between arbitrary modern borders.
Nimzonia
08-11-2004, 01:01
I feel a kind of affinity for the Russian people and am currently very interested in a lady of Romanian extraction, but I don't know if that counts. ;)
I thought Romanians were Latin, rather than slavic. What with Romanian being a romance language, and the country actually being named after the Romans. I may well be missing something, however.
Keruvalia
08-11-2004, 01:01
Texan. :D
Kelonian States
08-11-2004, 01:22
25% Jewish, 75% different European ethnicities, including Spanish and Romanian (I have one Romanian great-grandparent), as well as Scottish. My grandfather was born in Yorkshire with a Scottish father with an eastern-European surname - work that one out!
My grandmother on one side was of Spanish origin, the other grandfather was Jewish, and the other grandmother was English, but of Spanish and Romanian blood. And my surname is apparently old French. It's all very confusing.
Solzhenitsynya
08-11-2004, 01:24
Chiefly speaking, I guess yes, the Romanians are Latin. Thank you for reminiding me of that, Nimzonia. :) Although I would think that since it's right next to Moldavia and the Ukraine, there's probably a sizable Slavic factor involved.
Alinania
08-11-2004, 01:25
German, Italian, Swiss.
I used to live in Gardner.
I've lived here for 6 or 7 weeks, and I hate it.
And this matters because? What the fuck do you care about peoples ethnicities or expect them to give a fuck about yours- people are people.
Admitedly some people are pricks and like labeling folk , (sometimes even themselves) according to "race".
Why not ask everyone what fucking colour there eyes are? It makes about as much difference to what sort of people they will be.
Its just a question.
100% Polski! Haha
Wow!
You're the only person of one backround here!
Wow!
You're the only person of one backround here!
Purebred, :).
Amir-Haddif
08-11-2004, 02:20
Hmm.. let's see.. My maternal grandfather is Norhtern Irish, my maternal grandmother is Canadian with Irish roots, I believe, and my paternal granparents are both Estonian. And my parents are both Canadian.
Amir-Haddif
08-11-2004, 02:24
I have no clue hoiw to do that percentage thing.
Salbania
08-11-2004, 02:26
Something like Irish, Canadian, and Russian.
Well, half my family is french, got some relatives in Quebec, and the rest is Irish and Scottish.
Katganistan
08-11-2004, 02:50
Texan. :D
Oh, I'm so sorry.... ;)
Nope sorry tos teal your thunder there Aerou im 100% Polski too! ah good old sausages...mmmm. Well its ok to steal your thunder i guess cause were both polaks! woohoo!
Sdaeriji
08-11-2004, 02:57
50% Italian
50% Scotish
A bunch of shit, Porteugeuse, English, Chinese, Hawaiian, Filipino, Spanish, Russian, German, Greek...
Wow!
You're the only person of one backround here!
Not anymore. 100% Celtic. I see no need to differentiate between Irish and southern Scottish. So, for a while the groups started acting differently, but as far as physical characteristics there's no real difference, and the heritage is the same if you go back far enough. You know... pre-Christian. Before St. Pat cleansed the Emerald Isle of snakes. And when you get right down to it... everyone's Irish on St. Patty's day, so what are we worrying about?
Sdaeriji
08-11-2004, 03:05
A bunch of shit, Porteugeuse, English, Chinese, Hawaiian, Filipino, Spanish, Russian, German, Greek...
Ah, a mutt. Excellent.
Comdidia
08-11-2004, 03:07
German, Native American (Ojibwa), and thats about it.
Eastern Skae
08-11-2004, 03:07
Native American, English, Scottish, Irish, German, French Huguenot, Norwegian, possibly a little Jewish.
50% French (French-Canadian)
40% British (including Irish and Scottish)
10% Native American and Other European
100% northern irish
although originally my family were norman. about 600 years ago they moved to Ireland (one of them was a Norman knight involved in the first movements into Ireland by the normans...) so i suppose before that viking as well. but from those 600 years id say im 99.9% northern irish
Santa- nita
08-11-2004, 04:06
You could have made this a poll.
Cosmic Provinces
08-11-2004, 04:09
49 % Russian
31.25 % Ukrainian
12.5 % Polish
6.25 % German
1% Asian (probably of Mongolian descent)
[All figures are not exactly accurate.]
I consider myself Russian. I am fluent in Russian and English, and speak some Ukrainian and understand most of it. Just to give you the gist of how to interpret the percentages. :)
Daekerius
08-11-2004, 04:17
Southeast Polish
South Russian (Near the Former Soviet Republic of Kazakhstan)
Right-Wing America
08-11-2004, 04:17
25% Polish
25% Austrian
25% Japanese
25% a whole mess of stuff including Irish, American Indian (possibly Navajo), Hungarian and Croatian, plus a few other things.
My Polish and Austrian relatives are both Gentile and Jewish.
My god man that is A LOT of races. What do people think you are when they see you and what you consider yourself to be?
Andaluciae
08-11-2004, 04:23
Northern European, namely German (ancestors left from Prussia and Bavaria), English and Polish.
On my grandmothers side they were minor, landless Polish nobility who supported Kosciusko, and when the Russians took out the Poles, they fled to the US.
Some of my ancestors were skilled laborers and merchants who tired of the government control in their homeland and got to the US.
Preebles
08-11-2004, 04:27
I'm South African Indian. My great grandparents were shipped over as basically slaves about 150 years ago from Bengal and Uttar Pradesh.
I moved to Australia when I was 14.
1/2 Latvian and the other 1/2 English but i was born in Aus so im completely australian too!
Siesatia
08-11-2004, 04:37
100% Dragon ..... Oh, I wasnt supposed to say that here.... ahem.... 50% irish, 20% Polish, 10% French, 10% Russian, 5% Roman, 5% Greek.
I believe thats pretty accurate.
Vox Humana
08-11-2004, 04:37
German; my ancestors immigrated to America in the early 1700's.
No, its genes too.
Nice try. Care to play again?
Genes have nothing to do with ethnicity. Ethnicity is a social category and a purely human creation.
Even race has little to do with genes, in that there is no specific gene for race. In fact, in the biological sense race does not exist. Skin color, which most people base their ideas of race upon comes from variations of just one of tens of thousands of genes, involved in melanin production, leading to variations in the color of human skin and hair.
Humans are one of the most genetically homogenous species on the planet. Almost all of our genetic variation comes at the individual level.
Byzantium Pantocrator
08-11-2004, 05:49
50% British (or 25% English, 25% Scottish)
25% German
25% Other (Danish, Russian, Jewish)
Even though I'm more British than anything, I've always identified myself primarily as German. I've been told by perfect strangers that I look German, North German in particular. My great-grandfather on one side came from Silesia, I think.
Boyfriendia
08-11-2004, 05:57
I honestly have no idea. I think my ancestors just spontaneously popped up in the Southeastern United States a few thousand years ago and, well, here I am. I lived in Mississippi (where "yankees" is an ethnicity) for a while and this question is bringing back all kinds of repressed memories...AAAHHHH STEREOTYPES!!!!
Mikeswill
08-11-2004, 06:07
I claim Irish ~ Mexican tho my grandmother preferred the term "Spanish".
Of course one grandfather was Scottish; Welsh; English with a bit of French.
He married the Irish lass. Caring not for the English I guess he promoted (or was it I?) the idea of Gaelic ancestry. Regardless, I am proud of my ethnicity which is definitely not "White". (PS there is no White Ethnicity). So Irish~Mexican works. Last in War; First in Love. Rock On.
Peace
Kartuanga
08-11-2004, 06:17
YOU ARE NOT FRENCH! to quote my polisci prof from France "Raise your hand if you're of french origin. Perhaps I should clarify, Quebec is not France."
He Far Strelso
08-11-2004, 06:25
Maori (Kai Tahu/NZ), Orkney, Norwegian/Faroe Islands, English.
That's the human side. :)
Silly, silly thread.
Genes have nothing to do with ethnicity. Ethnicity is a social category and a purely human creation.
Even race has little to do with genes, in that there is no specific gene for race. In fact, in the biological sense race does not exist. Skin color, which most people base their ideas of race upon comes from variations of just one of tens of thousands of genes, involved in melanin production, leading to variations in the color of human skin and hair.
Humans are one of the most genetically homogenous species on the planet. Almost all of our genetic variation comes at the individual level.
Pacitalia
08-11-2004, 07:07
Everything in Europe except Spanish, Italian, Swiss, Portuguese, Finlandian, Swedish and French.
Pensamiento
08-11-2004, 07:13
50% Costa Rican
25% Norweigan
12.5% Swedish
12.5% German
This is good news for me, I can apply to colleges as a minority. A Latino, Asperger's Syndrome-challenged, Atheist, honor student, minority.
I'm an American, how the hell should I know?
Not to be picky, but is your "ethnicity" remotely relevant in cyberspace? I've always thought that one of the best things about the net is the removal of visually triggered stereotypes. You don't know my sex, my gender, the colour of my skin or anything else about me apart from how I think. IMO, this allows opinions to be considered without dismissing them because of a persons physical characteristics. Surely that's better than not listening or giving an opinion more weight because of what you think you know based on appearance or location?
In principle, I do agree with you. Nobody should be judged based on gender, sexuality, age, education or origin. Then I go to any public place and realise just how many people's opinions I would dismiss outright.
That dodgy teenager down at the skate park who's referring to his friends as "cuz" and trying to scab 2$ for the bus. All the people who vote for a political party for religious reasons... make that any religious person who refuses to acknoledge any point of view not in line with theirs or who is merely religious because their parents were. That 12 year old girl hanging around the cinema in a skimpy fluro skirt. Those guys in their old nissan with a fake exhaust, spraypainted wheels, illegal tinting, needless blowoff valve and sound system I can hear 3 blocks away. That guy in a suit trying to convince me to come and take some scientology tests. That 30 year old smaky girl who picked a fight with a poor old latino lady on the bus today. Those guys who hang around the bus interchange and pick on anyone shorter than them by themselves and think they "own" the interchange. Anyone who uses online anonimity to exercise his immaturiy skills.
So many crap people, not enough vigilantes. :sniper:
Sometimes, rarely, these people may have opinions I could value, but until then I'd rather not sift through anything they have to say to view something relevant. :headbang:
Consul Augustus
08-11-2004, 14:18
I'm double-dutch :D in the remote past my family came from the german-french border, but after a small calculation i think that accounts for say 0.098 percent of my genes ;)
i still wonder what ethnicity really says about a person. on one hand there are significant differences within the human race (some ppl can live on a diet that's lethal to me, same with the kind of climates some ppl can live in), but on the other hand there's lots of proof that when brought up in the same way ppl largely become similar. for example, ppl who where adopted at a young age can allmost completely conform themselves to the host society.
So is ethnicity nature or nurture?
Independent Homesteads
08-11-2004, 14:22
I alsways thought having Red Hair was a Celtic characteristic.
But I'm not really interested in Hair colours of worldwide ethnicities so, yeah.....
red hair could be a neanderthal characteristic apparently (http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3adc5573604d.htm), and very popular in scotland.
i'm red haired and english, with some irish and scottish ancestors. no idea what that makes me ethnically. Most brits are "north european mixed".
Okinawan Yes, there is a difference between us and Japanese. Maybe one day I'll show you all... ;)
Rogue US
08-11-2004, 14:32
half or 3/4 german, and half ,or less polish . Who knows what else is mixed in the wood pile!
Independent Homesteads
08-11-2004, 14:37
Silly, silly thread.
Genes have nothing to do with ethnicity. Ethnicity is a social category and a purely human creation.
Silly, silly person. Ethnicity has an awful lot to do with genes. And a lot to do with culture as well. And I didn't notice the thread originator saying "What's your ethnicity by that I mean your genetics".
Do you really believe that no social construct is worth discussing?
Even race has little to do with genes, in that there is no specific gene for race. In fact, in the biological sense race does not exist. Skin color, which most people base their ideas of race upon comes from variations of just one of tens of thousands of genes, involved in melanin production, leading to variations in the color of human skin and hair.
There is no gene for race, but race is determined by a large combination of genes. Does this mean that there are no races? There is no gene for intelligence (so far discovered) but intelligence is determined by a mixture of genetics, nutrition, education etc. Does this mean that intelligence doesn't exist? No. Your argument is not an argument.
Humans experience the world and one of the things they experience is the basic genetic types caucasoid, negroid and mongoloid. These types of human being have genetic differences from each other that can be measured on the genetic level and on the bodily level, that is we can identify genetic differences and also differences in physical characteristics that are related to these genes.
Lots of people in the world have genes that are mixtures of these basic types, and lots of people have characteristics that identify them as members of sub types, eg South Asians are basically caucasoid but have darker skin, less variation in hair and eye colour etc, and SouthEast Asians are basically mongoloid but can have more caucasoid characteristics because they have come into contact with the South Asian gene pool.
"Race" is the name that we give (in english) to a mixture of genetically based factors that mark out a set of people in terms of the geographic origin of their ancestors. These sets develop through geographic impact on the gene pool from which their ancestors came. To say it doesn't exist is just wrong. We can see that a black person and a white person have some different characteristics, and that if they have a child, that child will inherit some of their characteristics from each parent. This is what race is.
Humans are one of the most genetically homogenous species on the planet.
Oh. So?
Almost all of our genetic variation comes at the individual level.
What?
Silly, silly person. Ethnicity has an awful lot to do with genes. And a lot to do with culture as well.
There is no gene for race, but race is determined by a large combination of genes. Does this mean that there are no races? There is no gene for intelligence (so far discovered) but intelligence is determined by a mixture of genetics, nutrition, education etc. Does this mean that intelligence doesn't exist? No. Your argument is not an argument.
Humans experience the world and one of the things they experience is the basic genetic types caucasoid, negroid and mongoloid. These types of human being have genetic differences from each other that can be measured on the genetic level and on the bodily level, that is we can identify genetic differences and also differences in physical characteristics that are related to these genes.
Actually, while ethnicity has everything to do with culture, it has NOTHING to do with genetics. Look at Hispanics. Genetically they range from dark skinned Cubans, to Native American Guatemalans, to blond haired Argentineans. Their ethnicity is about their language, clothing, traditions, food, values, etc, but not their genes.
My previous statement - biologically there is no such thing as race - is not to say race doesn't exist. It certainly does - as an arbitrary categorization created by humans by selecting certain characteristics we feel important in grouping people.
Genetically those characteristics are insignificant.
We might just as easily characterize people by eye color, blood type, or the consistency of the wax in their ears and call that race. By doing so those categories would exist, but they would be no more biologically significant than skin color.
Preebles
14-11-2004, 06:31
Actually, while ethnicity has everything to do with culture, it has NOTHING to do with genetics. Look at Hispanics. Genetically they range from dark skinned Cubans, to Native American Guatemalans, to blond haired Argentineans. Their ethnicity is about their language, clothing, traditions, food, values, etc, but not their genes.
I agree, it's more about culture and identification. I mean, I identify as South African Indian, not as just Indian, because I was not raised within that culture.
My previous statement - biologically there is no such thing as race - is not to say race doesn't exist. It certainly does - as an arbitrary categorization created by humans by selecting certain characteristics we feel important in grouping people.
Agree here too.
Where the borders between "races" are drawn is so arbitrary. And don't get me started on racial "science." :p
NJ Liberals
14-11-2004, 06:36
I'm Polish, Russian, and a little teensy bit English and German. Not exciting.
Pacitalia
14-11-2004, 07:05
I'm an American, how the hell should I know?
Exactly the kind of ignorance that causes blind hatred of you and your people. :P
Exactly the kind of ignorance that causes blind hatred of you and your people. :P
A little harsh don't you think? Yes, the United States is a nation of immigrants, so it might be logical to assume that all Americans know the national and ethnic background of their ancestors.
However, would you consider a Brit to be ignorant who didn't know if his ancestors were Belgae Celts, Picts, Saxons, Angles, Normans, Jutes, or Danes? How about a Vietnamese person who couldn't tell you if his ancestors were Hoa, Hmong, Zao, Nung, San Chay, Cao Lan, Giay, Lolo, Tay, Muong, Thai, Cham, or Khmer?
Go back far enough and we are all ignorant of our ancestors. And perhaps that is a good thing. Less fighting over ancient ethnic enmities. So how about cutting Deeelo a little slack?
Alzhiemerica
14-11-2004, 09:23
Well half Dutch, half Irish.
But I may as well put in British and Catholic-Atheist as well.
Catholic Athiest? How does that work? Or do you mean agnostic?
1/2 English
1/2 Irish
and a small percent Welsh.
I identify with Aussie culture...
The Black Forrest
14-11-2004, 09:30
American, Polish, Scots
100% Chinese
What does that mean? There are 56 recognized ethnic groups in China. Are you Han?
Or perhaps Zhuang, Manchu, Hui, Miao, Uygur, Yi, Tujia, Tibetan, Mongolian, Bouyei, Dong, Yao, Korean, Bai, Hani, Li, Kazak or Dai?
Maybe She, Lisu, Gelo, Lahu, Dongxiang, Va, Shui, Naxi, Qiang, Tu, Xibe, Mulam, Kirgiz, Daur or Jingpo?
Not as likely, but perhaps you are Blang, Salar, Maonan, Tajik, Pumi, Achang, Nu, Ewenki, Jing, Jino, Deang, Ozbek, Russian, Yugur, Bonan, Moinba, Oroqen, Drung, Tatar, Oroqen, Hezhe, Gaoshan, or Lhoba?
Fnordish Infamy
14-11-2004, 09:37
I've no idea what I am. Er...white?
My grandma claims that her grandfather was an American Indian chief, but when I bug her for details, she won't talk.
Eh. I dunno. Once I get my own car I think I'll go to one of those place that has those machines where you can trace your roots.
St Heliers
14-11-2004, 09:50
50% Jewish
50% New Zealander
Ethical Atheists
14-11-2004, 09:53
Scottish with a tiny speck of German thrown in somewhere.
Kspinaria
14-11-2004, 10:13
Hmmm...
I'm pretty sure that I've been told I'm English, French, Italian and Maltese. But mostly English.
Exactly the kind of ignorance that causes blind hatred of you and your people. :P
In what way? In what way would knowing that my ancestors were of a certain ethinicity or national origin change anyone but the most ignorant of people's opinion of me? Well, I don't know and what's more I don't care! I didn't know any of my immediate ancestors beyond my parents and I don't feel I have been deprived. Hate me for these things if you choose to but once again, I don't care.
Greedy Pig
14-11-2004, 11:22
I can only trace back form my Grandparents. Rest either still in China, dead in the war or some other thingy.
1/4 Thai
3/4 Chinese
And for Ogiek's Sake 3/4 Chinese = (1/3 Hokkien, 1/3 teochew, 1/3 Dunno (My Grandmother was too young when she left China))
Mom Teochew, dad Hokkien.. So that makes me a Hokkien.
Petsburg
14-11-2004, 12:28
Gypsy & english.
Hobbslandia
14-11-2004, 12:40
1/3 Cornish
1/3 Northern Irish (Protestant)
1/3 Based on surname male lineage originates in Medieval France, English since.
Now a proud card carrying Canadian.
Quite honestly, its not where you are from, but where your heart is.
1/3 Cornish
1/3 Northern Irish (Protestant)
1/3 Based on surname male lineage originates in Medieval France, English since.
Now a proud card carrying Canadian.
Quite honestly, its not where you are from, but where your heart is.
How can you be thirds?
100% American and proud of my heritage.
I celebrate the 4th of July and Memorial Day with pride.
I volunteer to help my community through various organizations.
I buy drinks for people in uniform when I see them at a restaurant or bar.
I vote, taking effort to clearly research and understand the issues first.
Though I often disagree, I do not look outside my great nation for the answers which have always been found within.
When I speak of my heritage it is always with pride. When I am critical of the people who hold office in my government I am still respectful of the office itself.
I love Barbecues, baseball and rythm n' blues.
Though my neighbor and I may not always agree, or seldom even talk, God help the poor SOB who I catch breaking into his home or doing him wrong.
My ancestors came from the far corners of the globe, with the hope that their descendants would be what I am, AN AMERICAN!
Akai Yume
15-11-2004, 01:35
50% Cajun
25% Scottish
12.5% Irish
12.5% Cherokee