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http://www.faithfreedom.org/Announcement/Pershing.htm

If we did this now, we'd get our behinds sued by a billion human rights groups, nations and the UN and etc. But you also got to admit that this guy totally Pwn3d them.

Yeah, I completely agree. He owned those fools. But he also became a terrorist.

Maybe the moderators will toss bricks through my window for this, but. . .

Fighting for peace is fucking for chastity.

Amen to that!

and I'm an athiest! Give those goat fuckers (van gogh ref) what's coming to them.

Humidity is rising - Barometer's getting low
According to all sources, the arab street's the place to go
Cause tonight for the first time
Just about half-past ten
For the first time in history
It's gonna start raining Bombs.
It's Raining Bombs! Fallujah! - It's Raining Bombs! Amen!
I'm gonna go out to run and let those jihadis get
Absolutely soaking wet!
It's Raining Bombs! Fallujah!
It's Raining Bombs! Every Specimen!
Tall-boy, nuke, dark and lean
Rough and tough and strong and mean
God bless the marine corps, all single minded bastards too
Took off to iraq and did just what they had to do
Taught every pilot to rearrange the sky
So that each and every a-rab could learn exactly how to die
It's Raining Bombs! Fallujah! - It's Raining Bombs! Amen!
It's Raining Bombs! Fallujah!
It's Raining Bombs! Ame---------nnnn!
I feel stormy weather / Moving in about to begin
Hear the thunder / Don't you lose your head
Rip off the roof and give them lead
God bless the marine corps, all single minded bastards too
Took off to iraq and did just what they had to do
Taught every pilot to rearrange the sky
So that each and every a-rab could learn exactly how to die
It's Raining Bombs! Yeah!
Humidity is rising - Barometer's getting low
According to all sources, the arab street's the place to go
Cause tonight for the first time
Just about half-past ten
For the first time in history
It's gonna start raining Bombs.
It's Raining Bombs! Fallujah! - It's Raining Bombs! ABombs!
It's Raining Bombs! Fallujah! - It's Raining Bombs! ABombs!
It's Raining Bombs! Fallujah

I agree with it. I don't want to agree with it, but I do.

Current state of play:
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm

Given that your site is claiming 40+ years of no Islamic terror, they clearly aren't experts on world history... :(

I suspect that the way to stop Islamic terrorists is to give a million dollars of aid to Israel every time a Westerner is killed by a Muslim. (And aid to the Islamic world if a Jew ever decides to turn on us, but that doesn't seem likely).

Sounds good to me! Maybe we should have someone steal Arafat's body. Then show it being buried in a pig farm. :-)

The pershing idea, and that aid idea are both good ones.

Good ways to stop terrorism..
Lets see:

Stop medling with their internal affairs
Stop supporting tyrannical regimes because they keep the oil flowing
Be fair in the Israel/Palestinian conflict

And then, but not least
Don't bow down to terror.


Okay, perhaps it won't stop terrorism, there will always be freaks out there, but it can help.


Or we can Nuke all Muslims. That is like 2000 million people? Well, that would take too many nukes, the radiation would kill us all. Concentration camps should do it, thought it would take years.

Or we can convert ourselves to Islam. Well, that ain't cool for me, i love pork meat. I actually find piggies kinda cute :)

PS: i almost forgot! PERSHING IS A WUSS COMPARED TO THOSE LADS IN ABU GRAIB! :D Hell, that really showed 'them muslims not to mess with us! look how peaceful they got after those pictures came out!

I think that bring up an interesting issue. Isn't being afraid of terrorists doing exactly what they want us to do? Chew that around for a while.

That kind of thing is probably already happening in Iraq anyway. Abu Ghraib, anyone?

Wow - Pershing has no ethics.

Nowadays I don't think it would scare terrorists off as much as provoke them

I think that bring up an interesting issue. Isn't being afraid of terrorists doing exactly what they want us to do? Chew that around for a while.
Yep - good point.
Also - why, statistically, care about terrorism?
What are you chances of being killed by a terrorist? Okay, now campare that with -
your chances of being killed by a drunk driver,
heart disease etc from over eating,
cancer etc from (passive) smoking,
etc, etc.
Ending terrorism would be nice, but being afraid of terrorism? Why bother?

I have to say, this is the best thread I have read in a long time. I just wish the world wasn't pussy enough to try that once more.

I have to say, this is the best thread I have read in a long time. I just wish the world wasn't pussy enough to try that once more.

Dude.. they tried it. Abu graib. Or hell, the way the Nazi's treated the jews, or the soviets treated everyone, or the way utus treated serbs and vice versa blablabla... look where it took them! :D

Hell, are you shure you want to win terrorists? with that kind of thinking, your no better than them. Go join alqaeda or something.

Every atrocity committed by a terrorist only seems to strengthen resolve, just as every atrocity committed by a western power will do exactly the same in the other sphere.

We do not tie people to stakes and have them devoured by pigs because we are better than that - that is why we are fighting, don't forget that.

I have to say, this is the best thread I have read in a long time. I just wish the world wasn't pussy enough to try that once more.

I believe the term you're racking your brains for is "enlightened".

That is a revolting, sick idea. It not only lowers us to the terrorists level, it goes way below that.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Announcement/Pershing.htm

If we did this now, we'd get our behinds sued by a billion human rights groups, nations and the UN and etc. But you also got to admit that this guy totally Pwn3d them.

Dude.. they tried it. Abu graib. Or hell, the way the Nazi's treated the jews, or the soviets treated everyone, or the way utus treated serbs and vice versa blablabla... look where it took them! :D

Hell, are you shure you want to win terrorists? with that kind of thinking, your no better than them. Go join alqaeda or something.

You mean we covered them in pigs blood and stuff at Abu Graib? I don't remember hearing about that . . .

aaah but he only had to kill 49 people to do it.

That has to say something for making an example...

I kinda wish there was no such thing as apathy.
but there is, so I don't condone this.

Well, we would not have to that. We could let a huge herd of pigs loose in Saudi Arabia or Yemen by airdrop with unmarked planes or remote controlled rafts.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Announcement/Pershing.htm

If we did this now, we'd get our behinds sued by a billion human rights groups, nations and the UN and etc. But you also got to admit that this guy totally Pwn3d them.


one must fight fire with fire

Well, we would not have to that. We could let a huge herd of pigs loose in Saudi Arabia or Yemen by airdrop with unmarked planes or remote controlled rafts.

But what about making an example of them? If we could make the pigs seem to appear then they may take it as a sign from God though. hmmm

one must fight fire with fire
An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind.

one must fight fire with fire

Not if you're actually trying to put it out.

Why, that's a GENIUS idea!

I'm surprised nobody thought of it before. To think, the easiest way to get rid of terrorists is to become just like them!

Yeah, I completely agree. He owned those fools. But he also became a terrorist.

Maybe the moderators will toss bricks through my window for this, but. . .

Fighting for peace is fucking for chastity.

I disagree. Is the world supposed to just sit back and let people walk all over them?

The general was very clever to use their own religion against them.

Wow - Pershing has no ethics.

Nowadays I don't think it would scare terrorists off as much as provoke them
yeah we are fighting the people that fought off the soviets, they havea good idea what they are doing.

pigs and beer? send the whole of the population of tennessee and and mississippi to hunt the terrorists, this shit will be done in 2 months

yeah we are fighting the people that fought off the soviets, they havea good idea what they are doing.
And to think...we helped them fight off the Soviets! :p


The general was very clever to use their own religion against them.
Clever isn't the word I would use.

An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind.

If you learn your lesson the first time, you'll have one eye left.

Won't work. Islamic reference books say the body of a martyr who dies for the faith is so pure that it does not need to be washed before burial, in contrast to the usual Muslim practice. (http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm)



Good ways to stop terrorism..
Lets see:

Stop medling with their internal affairs
Stop supporting tyrannical regimes because they keep the oil flowing
Be fair in the Israel/Palestinian conflict

And then, but not least
Don't bow down to terror.


Okay, perhaps it won't stop terrorism, there will always be freaks out there, but it can help.


Or we can Nuke all Muslims. That is like 2000 million people? Well, that would take too many nukes, the radiation would kill us all. Concentration camps should do it, thought it would take years.

You've got it. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The only people to successfully deal with fanatical religious terrorists were the Mongols. Under Hulegu Khan orders the Mongols wiped out every man, woman, and child associated with the cult. Thus history shows there is only one way to defeat terrorism - kill them all.

However, terrorism is not at such a level now that we can do so. The only justification for carrying out this plan would be if terrorists organizations began wide spread use of WMDs.

Furthermore defeating the terrorists is not necessarily the best solution. Dealing with the root causes (intervention, support for oppressive regiemes, precieved and actual unfairness, and lack of economic and educational opprotunities) is.

Yeah that might have worked for Pershing but I doubt it'll work now...

They have been trying it @ Guantanamo & in Iraq - except using homosexuality & nudity (2 other things Arabs supposedly hate) rather than pork.

The idea being, that Arabs hate homosexuality and nudity, that it is especially shameful - so if they humiliate them, pile them naked on top of one another and take photos - they will be able to blackmail them into becoming informants...

And as you can see from recent events it has proven to be very successful in crushing the insurgency.

If you learn your lesson the first time, you'll have one eye left.
I'm not sure I'm following this metaphor. Who learns their lesson? Which side?

Yeah that might have worked for Pershing but I doubt it'll work now...

They have been trying it @ Guantanamo & in Iraq - except using homosexuality & nudity (2 other things Arabs supposedly hate) rather than pork.

The idea being, that Arabs hate homosexuality and nudity, that it is especially shameful - so if they humiliate them, pile them naked on top of one another and take photos - they will be able to blackmail them into becoming informants...

And as you can see from recent events it has proven to be very successful in crushing the insurgency.
Are you living under a rock?

Are you living under a rock?

No i am watching Fox

I'm sick of peace, I want a fight. I'd gladly put terrorists in their place, as I expect nothing less from them. I'm not overtly violent, it's just that if you get results the means are kinda irrellevant.

I'm sick of peace, I want a fight. I'd gladly put terrorists in their place, as I expect nothing less from them. I'm not overtly violent, it's just that if you get results the means are kinda irrellevant.

Yeah but if you don't think through your means, you don't get the results you want.

Like when you fight fire with fire, you are going to end up with more fire.

And if you are the United States and act exactly as the terrorists want you to, by retaliation that harms civilians (no matter how hard you try, and I know the US forces do try, to minimise casualties) - they get stronger.

It's basic guerilla warfare, there are hundreds of books on it, based on centuries of practice... and the iraqi insurgents have probably read 'em all. They know the results they want, and they know how to provoke the US into say, invading a city like falluja.

Cool that you want a fight, so does your prez, and i expect nothing more from him. You will have one i am sure, there are lots of people lining up to die for the chance to fight america.

No i am watching Fox
:p

I'm sick of peace, I want a fight. I'd gladly put terrorists in their place, as I expect nothing less from them.
You're sick of peace? If you aren't actually a soldier in Iraq right now preparing to fight and possibly die, then you can shut the fuck up.

I'm not overtly violent, it's just that if you get results the means are kinda irrellevant.
Hah! I've heard that one before!

Yeah but if you don't think through your means, you don't get the results you want.

Like when you fight fire with fire, you are going to end up with more fire.

And if you are the United States and act exactly as the terrorists want you to, by retaliation that harms civilians (no matter how hard you try, and I know the US forces do try, to minimise casualties) - they get stronger.

It's basic guerilla warfare, there are hundreds of books on it, based on centuries of practice... and the iraqi insurgents have probably read 'em all. They know the results they want, and they know how to provoke the US into say, invading a city like falluja.

Cool that you want a fight, so does your prez, and i expect nothing more from him. You will have one i am sure, there are lots of people lining up to die for the chance to fight america.

This is moving into a definitional difference. Fanatical religious terrorism and guerrilla warfare do resemble each other, but there are differences. History shows repeatedly that guerrillas can be defeated without resorting to slaughter, but not fanatical religious terrorists. Most of the attacks in Iraq are from nationalist guerrillas (as can be seen by their use of remote IEDs as oppossed to suicide bombings) or your basic bandits and thugs.

You're sick of peace? If you aren't actually a soldier in Iraq right now preparing to fight and possibly die, then you can shut the fuck up.


That actually came out way more umm negative than I intended it too. I'm a very peaceloving person, but sometimes when I'm pissed I get really violent. (like tonight) It's a tough life. I feel for the people in Iraq, I really do. One of my best friends is their, I'm just think that if this would stop terrorism, 49 lives sure beats 1000 of our own troops. A little cruelty isn't the worst thing in the world. Sometimes, there is a greater good.

Though I probably sound like a real jerk right now, that's not how I mean to come of. War is hell, and I really would only use it as a last resort.

Terrorism to fight terrorism; I would reserve that as an extreme measure only I guess. It would serve them right though.

I'm sick of peace, I want a fight. I'd gladly put terrorists in their place, as I expect nothing less from them. I'm not overtly violent, it's just that if you get results the means are kinda irrellevant.

A person after my heart. One nuke and it's all over.

Not if you're actually trying to put it out.

Ever hear of a backfire? They are used all the time to put out forest fires.

I'm sick of peace, I want a fight. I'd gladly put terrorists in their place, as I expect nothing less from them. I'm not overtly violent, it's just that if you get results the means are kinda irrellevant.

As I said, "Just one nuke." Well maybe two or three, but no more. Hell, Japan got the message with just two. And hell yes I'm serious.

As I said, "Just one nuke." Well maybe two or three, but no more. Hell, Japan got the message with just two. And hell yes I'm serious.

Japan were a nation we were at war with, we are not at war with the Middle East, we are at "war" with terrorism. Maybe you could quite willingly condone murdering millions of innocent people, I on the other hand could not.

Hmm...If we had left Japan alone during WW2, we would not have to deal with extremists in Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, and probably even Pakistan now.

But anyways, if you want to help in a good and not so terroristic way, follow Robert Spencer's lead.

www.jihadwatch.org

Then go to

www.faithfreedom.org

The evidence on these two sites alone reveal the truth of what is going on in the world with regards to Islam. Spread the word about these sites please.

nuke mecca :D

nuke mecca :D

And Medina? :-)

People... are very stupid.

This country is growing stupider by the day. I know this because each day I lower my expectations of intellectual output from my fellow Americans, but I don't lower it enough to match the phenomenal rate of stupidity increase. So I get continually dismayed and shocked because I continue to overestimate, somehow, just how intelligent some folks are.

Yeah, all we need to do is kill people. What a brilliant god damned idea. Why didn't anyone think of that before?

Hey, just like the Israelis do! You know, they do that kind of thing and more, and there are NO terrorist attacks against the Israelis. Because it's just such a fool proof idea - killing people. It couldn't possibly fail.

Someone, forward this link to the White House NOW. Hopefully, this will let our government shift it's policies and behavior and finally correct that danged terrorist problem! Golly!

People... are very stupid.

This country is growing stupider by the day. I know this because each day I lower my expectations of intellectual output from my fellow Americans, but I don't lower it enough to match the phenomenal rate of stupidity increase. So I get continually dismayed and shocked because I continue to overestimate, somehow, just how intelligent some folks are.

Yeah, all we need to do is kill people. What a brilliant god damned idea. Why didn't anyone think of that before?

Hey, just like the Israelis do! You know, they do that kind of thing and more, and there are NO terrorist attacks against the Israelis. Because it's just such a fool proof idea - killing people. It couldn't possibly fail.

Someone, forward this link to the White House NOW. Hopefully, this will let our government shift it's policies and behavior and finally correct that danged terrorist problem! Golly!

Amen!

People... are very stupid.

This country is growing stupider by the day. I know this because each day I lower my expectations of intellectual output from my fellow Americans, but I don't lower it enough to match the phenomenal rate of stupidity increase. So I get continually dismayed and shocked because I continue to overestimate, somehow, just how intelligent some folks are.

Yeah, all we need to do is kill people. What a brilliant god damned idea. Why didn't anyone think of that before?

Hey, just like the Israelis do! You know, they do that kind of thing and more, and there are NO terrorist attacks against the Israelis. Because it's just such a fool proof idea - killing people. It couldn't possibly fail.

Someone, forward this link to the White House NOW. Hopefully, this will let our government shift it's policies and behavior and finally correct that danged terrorist problem! Golly!

So, what us your proposal? How would you stop terrorism?

Hmm...If we had left Japan alone during WW2, we would not have to deal with extremists in Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, and probably even Pakistan now.


Eh? So the attack at Pearl Harbour was acceptable, but placing bombs in hotels isn't?