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http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-suic1107,0,7756290.story?coll=ny-nynews-headlines

That isn't nearly as tragic as 9/11.

Does anyone else find it disturbing how that guy from Arizona calls Ground Zero "sacred"? Something about me finds the site of an enormous massacre considered sacred very very creepy.

Does anyone else find it disturbing how that guy from Arizona calls Ground Zero "sacred"? Something about me finds the site of an enormous massacre considered sacred very very creepy.
Yeah, THAT was what bugged me. There are plenty of chronically depressed people who need help, and anything could put them over the edge. Him choosing to make a statement is not uncommon for suicidal people.

However, the "sacred" comment sort of caught me by surprise.

I'm sorry. I feel no sympathy for this man. He let an election kill him. That's sick, disturbing, and good riddance from the human race I say for his death.

I'm sorry. I feel no sympathy for this man. He let an election kill him. That's sick, disturbing, and good riddance from the human race I say for his death.Meanwhile in Africa people are being killed so they can have elections. This cry-baby however can't accept the fact that his guy lost. Instead of accepting it he blows the shit out of himself. What a retard.

I'm sorry. I feel no sympathy for this man. He let an election kill him. That's sick, disturbing, and good riddance from the human race I say for his death.This is the most repugnant post I've read since I looked over some posts in the "gay couples adoption" thread saying they'd shoot their gay children (all of 5 minutes ago).

Your post was heartless, absolutely heartless. Yes, committing suicide just because your candidate lost an election is over-the-top. Yes, there's something melodramic and slightly exasperating about the spot the guy chose to do it. But look, all you know of this guy is the 400 words contained in this small article. You have no idea what else could have contributed to this guy's death, and you have no business condemning him, writing him off as a failure, and claiming in self-righteous igorance that the world is better off without him.

I hope you said this in the heat of the moment without any reflection, because that's pretty darn cruel of you.

Meanwhile in Africa people are being killed so they can have elections. This cry-baby however can't accept the fact that his guy lost. Instead of accepting it he blows the shit out of himself. What a retard.
You too. Before calling some random guy you didn't even know a 'retard', back off a little and develop some compassion and thoughtfulness.

You too. Before calling some random guy you didn't even know a 'retard', back off a little and develop some compassion and thoughtfulness.That doesn't change that fact that he's dead or a cry-baby.

Any bets on how long before someone blames this loser's death on Bush? ;) They're already doing it on some democrat forums. Some liberals are just chronic victims, win or lose, in their own minds. This shouldn't even be a news story.

That doesn't change that fact that he's dead or a cry-baby.
I'm not advocating suicide or saying it's a great decision to make: it's not, in any circumstance. I'm just saying laughing at the guy is awfully cruel. My heart goes out to him, it really does. I hope, if I ever feel badly enough to comtemplate suicide, I won't have people around me who will laugh at me, call me a cry-baby, and say the human race is better off without me.

Any bets on how long before someone blames this loser's death on Bush? ;) They're already doing it on some democrat forums. Some liberals are just chronic victims, win or lose, in their own minds. This shouldn't even be a news story.
So conservatives never committ suicide, huh? :rolleyes:

You too. Before calling some random guy you didn't even know a 'retard', back off a little and develop some compassion and thoughtfulness.

Bravo Senates. Commiting suicide might be a horrible thing, or a grave mistake. But its no reason to hate the person who does it.

stupid moron, can't he see that just because Bush got re-elected his life wasn't over? Now that he shot himself it is though. The story isn't moving, I feel sorry for his family, but, seriously, the dude is...er...was in need of therapy.

**SNIP**I'm just saying laughing at the guy is awfully cruel.**SNIP**I wasn't laughing.

stupid moron, can't he see that just because Bush got re-elected his life wasn't over? Now that he shot himself it is though. The story isn't moving, I feel sorry for his family, but, seriously, the dude is...er...was in need of therapy.
*bangs head against the wall* Yes, of course suicide is a bad option. But writing this guy off as a total loser because of 400 words written about him by a total stranger? Please stop being so judgemental!

Yes his death is pointless and stupid......but I don't feel sad. Why? Because I don't know him, I don't care that he commited a sin by killing himself thats between him and god and I just don't think the problem of one person should be news for the public.

Don't get me wrong I don't hate him, I just think his death was a pathetic and lame way to solve a problem. Taking your life is never the answer if you still have your health (ie haven't got cancer in the late stage) and all that is wrong is your team losing the election.

Good.

The world is better off without him.

And for once, unlike every other post I make, I mean that.

He's a dipshit.

Good.

The world is better off without him.

And for once, unlike every other post I make, I mean that.

He's a dipshit.
You are completely out of line and totally disrespectful of the dead. I wonder that you don't extend this guy the same courtesy you would want were you dead. Flaming people you've never met because of something you are very ill-informed about is pretty cowardly, don't you think?

Don't get me wrong I don't hate him, I just think his death was a pathetic and lame way to solve a problem. Taking your life is never the answer if you still have your health (ie haven't got cancer in the late stage) and all that is wrong is your team losing the election.Agreed. Suicide is pathetic and lame.

However hating people, and rejoicing in their death because of said suicide, is equally pathetic and lame.

I'm sorry. I feel no sympathy for this man. He let an election kill him. That's sick, disturbing, and good riddance from the human race I say for his death.


If Jesus really existed...it was people like you who crucified him.

I'm gonna go ahead and call him a dipshit too.

Before the flame

no, I'm not laughing at him, but I think suicide is the most retarded thing you can do, and that over an election is the finest form of mopery ever.

The above comment does not count towards certain extenuating circumstances, i.e. suicide missions to save something, going into the core to keep it from going nuclear.

In conclusion, you're only allowed to commit suicide if you are a fucking hero for it

This is the most repugnant post I've read since I looked over some posts in the "gay couples adoption" thread saying they'd shoot their gay children (all of 5 minutes ago).

Then, you haven't been posting here very long. In case you didn't know, I'm also gay, I'm staying away from that thread.

Your post was heartless, absolutely heartless.

Only in your eyes. New Foxinnia said the same thing and you haven't the decent to confront him about it. I see.

But look, all you know of this guy is the 400 words contained in this small article. You have no idea what else could have contributed to this guy's death, and you have no business condemning him, writing him off as a failure, and claiming in self-righteous igorance that the world is better off without him.

First off, never call me ignorant. I'm not, thank-you very much, and if you took two seconds to actually consider what I said rather than lashing out at me you'd realize where I was coming from.

I've known a few people who killed themselves for legitimate, if you can call it that, reasons (if you want details, telegram me). I don't care what happened to this guy in life, the fact that the catalyst for his suicide was an election is sickening.

If George Bush was comitting genocide, similar to Hitler, and then this guy went and killed himself, then, so be it. But, Bush isn't Hitler, despite what some would say, and this isn't going to kill us for the next four more years.

Unfortunately, this man neither had the testicular fortitude to wait it out and make a change. Instead, he blew himself to pieces with a shot gun. Good riddance.

I hope you said this in the heat of the moment without any reflection, because that's pretty darn cruel of you.

Then, it's pretty damn cruel of me.

I'm not going to sit here and fake sympathy for some guy who went and made a mockery of Ground Zero for some stupid martyrdom his suicide obviously yearned for in the statement made.

Good.

The world is better off without him.

And for once, unlike every other post I make, I mean that.

He's a dipshit.
What if you knew the other reasons he killed himself?

The OTHER reasons...no one shoots themself over an election unless they already have serious problems.

Maybe he was molested as a child. Maybe his wife was raped and killed. Maybe he lost a child in a car accident. Maybe his brother also killed himself.

You have no idea what was really going on in this guy's head.

I have too many friends who have seriously thought about or actually tried to kill themselves.

And there is ALWAYS something horrible you don't know about that's eating away at them.

If Jesus really existed...it was people like you who crucified him.Wow, you put that so much better than my paragraphs and multiple posts managed to. You're my new hero.

The fact that someone committed suicide shouldn't give you some kind of license to personally insult the poor guy, Pyta.

You are completely out of line and totally disrespectful of the dead. I wonder that you don't extend this guy the same courtesy you would want were you dead. Flaming people you've never met because of something you are very ill-informed about is pretty cowardly, don't you think?

When I'm dead you can call me what you want.

I won't care.

What he did was moronic and cowardly. I refuse to look at him as some kind of hero or martyr. He was an idiot; end of story.

If Jesus really existed...it was people like you who crucified him.

I'm glad you, too, feel the need to judge me for my opinions. What happened to only God will judge His sons and daughters as they walk the Earth before reaching the pearly gates of Heaven?

Y'know what though, as out of line your statement is, I'll respond to it nevertheless:

Yeah, if I was alive back then, I probably would've been one to yell, "Crucify Him," only because I march to the beat of my own drummer and no God is going to ever tell me different. I'd rather go to Hell for being myself than deny myself that which free will provides.

I'm glad you, too, feel the need to judge me for my opinions. What happened to only God will judge His sons and daughters as they walk the Earth before reaching the pearly gates of Heaven?

Y'know what though, as out of line your statement is, I'll respond to it nevertheless:

Yeah, if I was alive back then, I probably would've been one to yell, "Crucify Him," only because I march to the beat of my own drummer and no God is going to ever tell me different. I'd rather go to Hell for being myself than deny myself that which free will provides.

Well, in reality the general sentiment of the crowd was off with his head, so either way you're going with the flow. Just thought I'd put that in to make you that much angrier.:)

I refuse to look at him as some kind of hero or martyr. He was an idiot; end of story.
Heh, I don't see him as any hero or martyr, just one more example of a very sad story that happens all too many times.

Then, you haven't been posting here very long. In case you didn't know, I'm also gay, I'm staying away from that thread. Pfft, totally missed the point of that part of my post. It was the most repugnant thing I've read in the past 5 minutes, meaning the stuff I read before that was all worse. Calm down and take time to read my post.

Only in your eyes. New Foxinnia said the same thing and you haven't the decent to confront him about it. I see. Um, calm down. I did address Foxinnia, and everyone else who posted cruelities towards this guy.

First off, never call me ignorant. I'm not, thank-you very much, and if you took two seconds to actually consider what I said rather than lashing out at me you'd realize where I was coming from. I apologize for characterizing your reaction as "self-righteous ignorance", however, you must see my point that you really know nothing about this guy? Your judgement has come from one comment from one person who may or may not have given the whole story.

the fact that the catalyst for his suicide was an election is sickening. But you don't know that. You don't know that. You're condeming this guy out of hand without having a clue what's happnened to him, and don't you see why I object strongly to this?

Then, it's pretty damn cruel of me.

I'm not going to sit here and fake sympathy for some guy who went and made a mockery of Ground Zero for some stupid martyrdom his suicide obviously yearned for in the statement made.All right, as long as we're on the same page, and you're admitting you have zero compassion for a guy you know so little about.

What if you knew the other reasons he killed himself?

The OTHER reasons...no one shoots themself over an election unless they already have serious problems.

Maybe he was molested as a child. Maybe his wife was raped and killed. Maybe he lost a child in a car accident. Maybe his brother also killed himself.

You have no idea what was really going on in this guy's head.

I have too many friends who have seriously thought about or actually tried to kill themselves.

And there is ALWAYS something horrible you don't know about that's eating away at them.


Well if those were thr reaons he shot himself, i.e., he was a hopeless pedophile, then I understand. But it was portrayed as him not likeing the the election results - which is stupid and pathetic.

What he did was moronic and cowardly. I refuse to look at him as some kind of hero or martyr. He was an idiot; end of story.The only people characterizing him as a hero are equally extremists that I would come down as hard upon; unfortunately, I don't see them posting in this thread. I object to both sides of the unfairness here: martyrizing the guy or spitting on his memory.

Well if those were thr reaons he shot himself, i.e., he was a hopeless pedophile, then I understand. But it was portrayed as him not likeing the the election results - which is stupid and pathetic.
Yes, if that was the only reason he shot himself, definitely a stupid and pathetic action. But can you not see the difference between saying "heh, if that's all true, how foolish of him, let's move on and not care" and "these 400 words must tell the entire story and therefore I know this guy is a dipshit"?

All right, as long as we're on the same page, and you're admitting you have zero compassion for a guy you know so little about.

Yes, we're on the same page.

I freely judge, no denying that there, but I can only go on what's presented to me. Unfortunately, when someone blasts themselves (no pun intended) in the media in such a way that leaves facts to desire, what else can one do but formulate an exact response based on what they read/see/hear?

Just realizes that may make little or no sense, but doesn't care, this poster is on her 10th or 11th shot.

I'm glad you, too, feel the need to judge me for my opinions. What happened to only God will judge His sons and daughters as they walk the Earth before reaching the pearly gates of Heaven?Nice card to play after you've just defended your own highly judgemental analysis of this man.

The only people characterizing him as a hero are equally extremists that I would come down as hard upon; unfortunately, I don't see them posting in this thread. I object to both sides of the unfairness here: martyrizing the guy or spitting on his memory.

If indeed the reason for his sucide was the election results, then I am more than prepared to condemn him.

dead headless people are funny
*tired level sets in at max, I can feel the alpha waves dominating my mind*

So, would it be insensitive for me to say "This guy was an idiot for killing himself" if I think everyone is an idiot for one thing or another?

alright, I'm taking this at face value.

I'm a liberal, first and foremost.

this is the information that I have.

The guy is a liberal.
The guy liked John Kerry.
The guy didn't like GWB
The guy got depressed when JK lost the election
The guy goes to NY and blows his fucking brains out

Congratulations, you've accomplished the following

1) you are in the news
2) your friends and family are now in deep grief and mourning
3) you are dead

Honestly, what the fuck? You're too much of a pansy to accept defeat like a man because I'm delusional and think GWB is gonna kill the world, now I'm gonna kill myself for it.

Why the hell should I feel sorry for him? I feel sorry for his friends and family, because this guy is such an inconsiderate asshole to leave them forever.


EDIT: this is only from face value. If, for example, his wife died of exploisive bowel syndrome or something, and then he discovered that she was cheating on him, and that his kids were killed by friendly fire in the war, and he was a jew in a town that elected hitler mayor, then yes, I may feel sorry for him

Nice card to play after you've just defended your own highly judgemental analysis of this man.

I was just pointing out how everyone is jumping on my case for judging this man, yet, BS threw out the "Jesus card" - as any Christian would in typical judgmental fashion.

So, would it be insensitive for me to say "This guy was an idiot for killing himself" if I think everyone is an idiot for one thing or another?Good point.

So, would it be insensitive for me to say "This guy was an idiot for killing himself" if I think everyone is an idiot for one thing or another?

Yeah, well, if I'm being crucified, you're welcome to join me! :headbang:

I am not saying I ADMIRE the guy or think his action was in any way cool or smart or something to be proud of.

I'm saying I wish you had more compassion and understanding for him, and everyone in a difficult situation. I don't like suicide, and I think suiciding in this manner is pathetic, but I strongly, strongly object to the notion of "good riddance, dipshit" just because he made a few bad decisions.

Yes, if that was the only reason he shot himself, definitely a stupid and pathetic action. But can you not see the difference between saying "heh, if that's all true, how foolish of him, let's move on and not care" and "these 400 words must tell the entire story and therefore I know this guy is a dipshit"?

Is that how is death was portrayed though? Or is it just more leftist spin?

alright, I'm taking this at face value.

...

this guy is such an inconsiderate assholeUh huh, admit you have no idea what was really going on with the guy, and then pass some pretty harsh judgement on him. Way. To. Go.

Good point.

Thank you. It's not like I'm singling this one guy out as being an idiot or anything. I call myself an idiot several times a day, and my roommate went out tonight, a November night in New England, wearing only a skirt and spaghetti string top, and I called her an idiot several times.

Well if those were thr reaons he shot himself, i.e., he was a hopeless pedophile, then I understand. But it was portrayed as him not likeing the the election results - which is stupid and pathetic.
Huh? Pedophile? That came out of nowhere. :confused:

I'm just saying, the guy was suicidal before the election. NO ONE kills themself over an election unless they already have SERIOUS problems.

Is that how is death was portrayed though? Or is it just more leftist spin?
The leftist spin blaming Bush for this poor man's death is as repugnant as wishing the guy well on his way to hell.

So, would it be insensitive for me to say "This guy was an idiot for killing himself" if I think everyone is an idiot for one thing or another?

No; and you do Sdaeriji.

But I love you for it anyway.

I'm just saying, the guy was suicidal before the election. NO ONE kills themself over an election unless they already have SERIOUS problems.Agreed; there's no way we have all of the story and can subsequently pass judgement on the man on account of this action.

No; and you do Sdaeriji.

But I love you for it anyway.

I'm glad at least a few people saw that I was actually trying to make a point as opposed to just being an ass.

Huh? Pedophile? That came out of nowhere. :confused:

I'm just saying, the guy was suicidal before the election. NO ONE kills themself over an election unless they already have SERIOUS problems.


Yah, you're right. I only skimmed and saw molested and child. I jumped to conclusions - which often happens here.

If he killed himself because he was molested and couldn't deal with it I feel deeply deeply sorry for him. I actually wish - if that was the case - that he would have reached out to someone.

Don't do it, Tuesday. Seriously. Don't. Do it. If you can't handle something, talk to someone, pour out what's bothering you, to a diary or anything, but stop thinking about suicide; that will never help you move on.

I'm no psychologist but feel free to telegram me anytime and I'll try to give helpful and mostly sincere replies :p

...because I don't have the balls....

But you don't have balls, period. That's not really your fault.

Don't do it, Tuesday. Seriously. Don't. Do it. If you can't handle something, talk to someone, pour out what's bothering you, to a diary or anything, but stop thinking about suicide; that will never help you move on.

I'm no psychologist but feel free to telegram me anytime and I'll try to give helpful and mostly sincere replies :p

I think I just realized I posted that...

I'm glad at least a few people saw that I was actually trying to make a point as opposed to just being an ass.


While we may not always agree, I would like to think that both you and I can always be civil. And perhaps friends.

Plus I think, from past posts, you have a good enough sense of humor to know where I am coming from. In other words, I hate extremist nonsense, and it deserves a flamy response.

But you don't have balls, period. That's not really your fault.

Thanks, Sdaeriji, for always finding the brighter side of things.

In other words, I hate extremist nonsense, and it deserves a flamy response.Nothin' deserves a flamey response. At least, not according to the TOS of the board on which we are posting this very moment...

quite frankly, whatever the guy decided to do with his life, in this case end it because of an election (which may not be the exact and ONLY reason as to why he did it), it's his business. rather it WAS his business.

If he believed that it was what he had to do to make a statement of some kind, then i don't think its anyone else's business. if you think it shallow, then say so, but stop calling the guy names. for all we know the elections was just the thing that triggered his suicidal tendencies. Maybe he had other problems. who knows, right?

I think I just realized I posted that...
Aww, we're all faceless lines of text here you'll never meet in real life. Good to get these things of your chest where you won't have to come face to face with them every day, at least in my opinion.

I see where you're coming from Tuesday Heights.

Shit, I've had my own hard times, we all have.

And I have friends who have had their hard times, and still are. I worry to hell about them.

I can't be angry or dismissive or mocking of this guy who chose to make a show of his problems.

While we may not always agree, I would like to think that both you and I can always be civil. And perhaps friends.

Plus I think, from past posts, you have a good enough sense of humor to know where I am coming from. In other words, I hate extremist nonsense, and it deserves a flamy response.

No one always agrees with me. I'm pro-everything. Pro-gun, pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-legalization of drugs, pro-legalization of prostitution. Right now I am smoking one of my tobacco pipes and cleaning my .44 Desert Eagle while arguing for gay marriage.

Thanks, Sdaeriji, for always finding the brighter side of things.

It's what I do. Life's far too short to not see the brighter side of things.

Aww, we're all faceless lines of text here you'll never meet in real life. Good to get these things of your chest where you won't have to come face to face with them every day, at least in my opinion.

Yeah, my fiancee only knows half of it... I telegrammed you, just so you know. :)

No one always agrees with me. I'm pro-everything. Pro-gun, pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-legalization of drugs, pro-legalization of prostitution. Right now I am smoking one of my tobacco pipes and cleaning my .44 Desert Eagle while arguing for gay marriage.

If that's the case, you and I are not far apart at all.

You rock dude.

So for future reference, when you see me being and ass, it's just 'cos I like a good argument.

If that's the case, you and I are not far apart at all.

You rock dude.

So for future reference, when you see me being and ass, it's just 'cos I like a good argument.

Yeah, I do rock.

Damnit, what about me? Don't I rock??

(I replied, Tuesday :))

Damnit, what about me? Don't I rock??

(I replied, Tuesday :))

You rock, but not nearly as much as I rock.

Damnit, what about me? Don't I rock??

(I replied, Tuesday :))

well you can rock too.

Wow, you put that so much better than my paragraphs and multiple posts managed to. You're my new hero.

The fact that someone committed suicide shouldn't give you some kind of license to personally insult the poor guy, Pyta.


Thanks.

I do what I can.

Meanwhile in Africa people are being killed so they can have elections. This cry-baby however can't accept the fact that his guy lost. Instead of accepting it he blows the shit out of himself. What a retard.

I agree, You cannot win every election. My guy lost this one too. But killing myself over it? hell no! I am going to the American thing and wine about it for the next four years :D

i would like to make a point here. This guy killed himself and actually im not even going to bother RTFA as i really need to break from media for a little bit after a very harsh overdose of it in the last two years (minus TV, i dont watch TV). But suicide can be a form of protest. Self-immolation is well known, for instance Thich Quang Duc who protested the South Vietnamese regime we helped prop up due to their harsh religious repression. The thing is many people see Bush, the Administration, and a completely controlled Legislative and Judicial branch nearly completely controlled by one party on all levels as a form of fascism. Espeically when this fascism is trying to use force their religious beliefs into our system. So, im sure this guy just couldnt take living in a world built on this system with little way out.
That being said, those of us opposed to repression cannot go to far with this. Yes, we have to deal with an illegal war funded by us getting exceedingly more violent on our end. Yes, we have to deal with a possible Christian Theocracy. But we dont have to take it and killing ourselves wont change it. It will only ensure it, so will running to Canada or Europe. We have to stand and fight (non-violently). September 11 did change things. But not in the way they think, at least not long term. Their power is fleeting. Those of you who think there is no hope need to get active and start showing people whats going on. We have two years, it starts today! I leave it to you to figure out how, for now. Personally, i find the truth is always the best answer.

I'm glad you, too, feel the need to judge me for my opinions. What happened to only God will judge His sons and daughters as they walk the Earth before reaching the pearly gates of Heaven?

Your asking the wrong person. I believe in neither.

Y'know what though, as out of line your statement is, I'll respond to it nevertheless:

Yeah, if I was alive back then, I probably would've been one to yell, "Crucify Him," only because I march to the beat of my own drummer and no God is going to ever tell me different. I'd rather go to Hell for being myself than deny myself that which free will provides.


So..you'd just yell "Crucify Him!" right along with the rest of the sheep,a nd all the while, claim to be thinking for yourself?"

How independant of you.

As for me passing judgement on you:

I dont judge you based on your views of this man.

I judge for your lack of compassion.

I judge for your lack of compassion.

And I don't care.

And I don't care.


Bahhhh! Baaah!!!

Thank you, Mister Veal, for cleaning out a little bit of stupidity from the potential genepool.

This is more disturbing than tragic. Committing suicide because your party/candidate lost the election??? That is completely insane. If he felt so strongly about the Democratic party/politics, the smart thing in my opinion, would of been to maybe get into politics??? Get involved, run for some political office....try to make a difference yourself!! Unfortunatley, I don't feel bad for this guy. I think he's an insane moron who's self-issues probably went way beyond politics.

Bahhhh! Baaah!!!

Onomatoepeia is a wonderful comeback. I'm quite surprised at your attitude, BS, we've normally been pretty civil with one another.

It's just so... endearing, to say the least, to be put out on the chopping block for stating one's opinion on a situation. It happens a lot here, on NS, and it's unfortunate, too, because everyone has their own opinion, you're just not allowed to state it without ridicule, as your response suggests.

Why am I still up? I should go to bed!

TO BED!

This is the most repugnant post I've read since I looked over some posts in the "gay couples adoption" thread saying they'd shoot their gay children (all of 5 minutes ago).

Your post was heartless, absolutely heartless. Yes, committing suicide just because your candidate lost an election is over-the-top. Yes, there's something melodramic and slightly exasperating about the spot the guy chose to do it. But look, all you know of this guy is the 400 words contained in this small article. You have no idea what else could have contributed to this guy's death, and you have no business condemning him, writing him off as a failure, and claiming in self-righteous igorance that the world is better off without him.

I hope you said this in the heat of the moment without any reflection, because that's pretty darn cruel of you.

Oh god, stop being such a sap. Survival of the fittest, and obviously this guy wasn't the cream of the crop. Anyone that would kill themself over a election is just simply a moron. If the election didn't set him off, what would have? Lets pretend he's still alive...Tomorrow, he wakes up, puts two pieces of all-natural (because you know he's a hippie) wheat bread in the toaster that somehow works off of solar energy. Due to the fact that he paid an massive amount of money on this special toaster, he has high expectations for the quality of his toast. Then disaster strikes....his toast isn't toasted all the way on the upper-righthand corner of one of the pieces. OH THE HUMANITY! He walks up into his bedroom, gets his shotgun....and pops a cap in ths lump three feet above his ass that he used to call his brain.
:sniper:
That story brings up a good paradoxial question: If he is such a hippie that he killed himself over Kerry losing...WHY does he have a gun? You know that guy is all about gun control. Hmmm....unless this is some big ploy to get gun law legislation passed?

Oh god, stop being such a sap. Survival of the fittest, and obviously this guy wasn't the cream of the crop. Anyone that would kill themself over a election is just simply a moron. If the election didn't set him off, what would have? Lets pretend he's still alive...Tomorrow, he wakes up, puts two pieces of all-natural (because you know he's a hippie) wheat bread in the toaster that somehow works off of solar energy. Due to the fact that he paid an massive amount of money on this special toaster, he has high expectations for the quality of his toast. Then disaster strikes....his toast isn't toasted all the way on the upper-righthand corner of one of the pieces. OH THE HUMANITY! He walks up into his bedroom, gets his shotgun....and pops a cap in ths lump three feet above his ass that he used to call his brain.
I stopped reading after "survival of the fittest".

That story brings up a good paradoxial question: If he is such a hippie that he killed himself over Kerry losing...WHY does he have a gun? You know that guy is all about gun control. Hmmm....unless this is some big ploy to get gun law legislation passed?
Very few liberals want to ban guns. Most favor sensible regulations, registrations, background checks, etc.

That's like saying Republicans want to ban condoms...sure SOME do, but it's hardly representative of the overall party.

Uh huh, admit you have no idea what was really going on with the guy, and then pass some pretty harsh judgement on him. Way. To. Go.

Way to misquote, asshat

That isn't nearly as tragic as 9/11.

Or the fact that ground zero got turned into a tourist attraction. Some people will do anything for a quick buck...

"...and over here is where firemen xxx xxxx was impaled by a falling pole...

*various cameras go off*

...moving on, we have the actual basement in which so many were trapped..."

:headbang:

This is just terrible :(

Way to misquote, asshat

Way to outright flame, Pyta!

Meanwhile in Africa people are being killed so they can have elections. This cry-baby however can't accept the fact that his guy lost. Instead of accepting it he blows the shit out of himself. What a retard.

God... *sniff sniff* the outpouring of compassion on this thread.... *sniff sniff* is really unbelievable....

I stopped reading after "survival of the fittest"...
You did? ;)

You did? ;)

Yes, he hasn't read since the first time the phrase was mentioned, in the 1840s or whenever :p

Way to outright flame, Pyta!


I don't take Kindly to being slandered.

You did? ;)
It's a turn of phrase. I stopped taking anything he said seriously after "survival of the fittest" was applied to humans.

Social darwinism is bullshit and harmful.

Yes, he hasn't read since the first time the phrase was mentioned, in the 1840s or whenever
We aren't animals.

I can get into a long debate on social darwinism, but this isn't the thread to do it.

God... *sniff sniff* the outpouring of compassion on this thread.... *sniff sniff* is really unbelievable....Don't tell me how to live my life.

I'm not about to wade through last night's slam fest so I'll just say this:

When was the last time the media got a story right?
How many of you slinging mud at the dead guy & each other know the first thing about clinical depression?

The poor bastard probably had a chemical imbalance in his brain.
If drugs or alcohol were involved it only made the existing problem worse.

Having had severe clinical depression after my wife's death I can tell you it is an overpowering disability that precludes rational thought and twists emotions inside out. All natural impulses are inverted and what was say, survival instinct becomes destruction instinct.

I hope you all spend you days wallowing in ignorance when it comes to depression. It is something you don't even wish on your enemies.