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Seriously, I rented Fahrenheit 911 to see what the hype was all about... and at exactly 17:38 I stopped it, because I was appalled by the lack of any substance or merit or anything that it offered.

All the first 17 and a half minutes did was make me feel sorry for George W. Bush - this coming from an ardent Democrat and lefty - and want to give him a hug.

I must now affirm my believe that Michael Moore is a staunch idiot, who has no basis for any of his attacks of President Bush's conduct for September 11th.

So, this is the first movie I have ever stopped in the middle and put back in its case. Usually, if I hate a movie, I'll just leave it in for background noise and let it run its course to add to the list of movies I've seen... nope, not this time. It's a sad day indeed.

Tuesday I just want to be clear that you are a liberal, at least from your posts I have thought that.

Tuesday I just want to be clear that you are a liberal, at least from your posts I have thought that.

Yes, I am a liberal, a registered Democrat, and a Kerry supporter, but I am not bound by party politics in the slightest.

I've never liked Michael Moore, nor did I see his movie in the theater, because I knew better. In fact, I used a free rental from Blockbuster to rent this out, because my fiancee wanted to see it.

I thought it was funny, I wasn't trying to take it as gospel. I like Micheal Moore a lot, but I have to admit, I think that his earliest books/films are significantly superior to the more recent ones. (Downsize This is hilarious, TV nation was very funny, I've heard Roger And Me was good although I've not seen it myself.)

Seriously, I rented Fahrenheit 911 to see what the hype was all about... and at exactly 17:38 I stopped it, because I was appalled by the lack of any substance or merit or anything that it offered.

All the first 17 and a half minutes did was make me feel sorry for George W. Bush - this coming from an ardent Democrat and lefty - and want to give him a hug.

I must now affirm my believe that Michael Moore is a staunch idiot, who has no basis for any of his attacks of President Bush's conduct for September 11th.

So, this is the first movie I have ever stopped in the middle and put back in its case. Usually, if I hate a movie, I'll just leave it in for background noise and let it run its course to add to the list of movies I've seen... nope, not this time. It's a sad day indeed.

Sad day...because you couldn't stomach the dang movie. Yeah it was a crappy movie for sure. But what did you expect. It was never going to be as good as Bowling for Columbine. But if you actually watch the movie has intelligent subtleties in it. Take the good from the bad and get over that you wasted $7 on a crappy dvd.

I am a HUGE fan of Bowling for Columbine.
And I believe bush is a psychotic dictator.
That said, I agree that this is a horrible movie and that it actually helped bush, because, even a mass murderer like him looks like a victim when attacked in such an unfair way.
I am a great fan of Michael Moore, but he just made a huge mistake by making a movie so agressive.

Take the good from the bad and get over that you wasted $7 on a crappy dvd.

If you would've read through the entire thread instead of my initial post, I didn't waste a dime on the movie, I had a free rental on my movie pass. :p

Nevermind.

Beat me to it. Haha!

Beat me to it. Haha!

I just simply rule too hard for you.

Tuesday, I want to compliment you on being intelligent enough not like a package of garbage just because it was "supposed" to be on your side.
I am a ...well I dont know what the hell I am but it isnt a Democrat-MAybe Liberal-but not Democrat.
Anyway thanks for not being sheeple.

I just simply rule too hard for you.

My fiancee would say otherwise. ;)

I want to see it, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let that man get his handles on a single penny of my money. So I will just have to wait until I can palm it from one of my friends or it is shown to me in such a setting that I do not have to pay for it. I made the mistake of paying for Bowling for Columbine, and I will never again let that man steal my time and money.

My fiancee would say otherwise. ;)

Whether or not she agrees, the fact remains that I rule more than anyone else in human history.

Anyway thanks for not being sheeple.

I just try to form my own opinions based on what I deem factual sources in my pursuit of political belief, ideology, and general well-being. Actually, I just call it individuality. Nevertheless, thank-you for your kind words.

The movie wasn't a balanced documentary, it's true.

However, the comment above, saying he wasn't a sheepie because he disliked it is ridiculous. Many more people have decided that they don't like this movie because the popular judgement has been against it. Personally (and this is my personal opinion) I think the movie was pretty justified. And also one of the most depressing films I've ever seen.

But that could be the emotional manipulation :P

Seriously, I rented Fahrenheit 911 to see what the hype was all about... and at exactly 17:38 I stopped it, because I was appalled by the lack of any substance or merit or anything that it offered.

All the first 17 and a half minutes did was make me feel sorry for George W. Bush - this coming from an ardent Democrat and lefty - and want to give him a hug.

I must now affirm my believe that Michael Moore is a staunch idiot, who has no basis for any of his attacks of President Bush's conduct for September 11th.

So, this is the first movie I have ever stopped in the middle and put back in its case. Usually, if I hate a movie, I'll just leave it in for background noise and let it run its course to add to the list of movies I've seen... nope, not this time. It's a sad day indeed.

Never seen it. But I have made the point that agitprop like that actually hinders more than helps.

FYI, I had the same experience with the passion of the christ.

The movie wasn't a balanced documentary, it's true.

Maybe it's because I'm a journalism major and I try to look at things from all sides hinders my judgments when I watch, read, or view things of this nature. At least, that's what I like to think.

However, the comment above, saying she wasn't a sheepie because he disliked it is ridiculous.

My emphasis. :p

Personally (and this is my personal opinion) I think the movie was pretty justified.

While I don't agree it was necessarily justified, I won't knock you for that, as I have no right to do so. I just know for myself, it isn't the kind of thing I can necessarily stomach with the way I view things of this nature.

FYI, I had the same experience with the passion of the christ.

I made it through The Passion of the Christ a bit worse for wear... also rented it, won't purchase it, I thought there were too many Biblical inconsistencies and liberties taken by Mel Gibson.

Seriously, I rented Fahrenheit 911 to see what the hype was all about... and at exactly 17:38 I stopped it, because I was appalled by the lack of any substance or merit or anything that it offered.

All the first 17 and a half minutes did was make me feel sorry for George W. Bush - this coming from an ardent Democrat and lefty - and want to give him a hug.

I must now affirm my believe that Michael Moore is a staunch idiot, who has no basis for any of his attacks of President Bush's conduct for September 11th.

So, this is the first movie I have ever stopped in the middle and put back in its case. Usually, if I hate a movie, I'll just leave it in for background noise and let it run its course to add to the list of movies I've seen... nope, not this time. It's a sad day indeed.

Finally someone who says exactly what F 9/11 was, a FARCE! Thanks for proving everything that was ever said about this movie being this TH!

I thought it was funny, I wasn't trying to take it as gospel. I like Micheal Moore a lot, but I have to admit, I think that his earliest books/films are significantly superior to the more recent ones. (Downsize This is hilarious, TV nation was very funny, I've heard Roger And Me was good although I've not seen it myself.)

Try Canadian Bacon! Its very very funny

As a voter who decided whilst holding his absentee ballot in his hand who to vote for, Fahrenheit was a negative to Kerry. I couldn't take the film, I watched the first hour and fifteen minutes before I cleared out of the room. I enjoyed Bowling and Roger, they were funny. They accomplished something, but Fahrenheit only seemed to say that "Bush is evil". It did nothing else. The entire film seemed to be topics I'd heard on these forums a billion times prior.

I wasted a full hour of my life and then some. The dude across the hall is a solid Bush supporter and he watched the film all the way through. I don't know how he did it, because it turned me off to the radical left more than anything else ever has.

I've always considered Michael Moore to be equivalent to porn.

You feel bad that you like it so much, but it really gets you off.

coming from a liberal-minded independant

I've always considered Michael Moore to be equivalent to porn.

You feel bad that you like it so much, but it really gets you off.

coming from a liberal-minded independant

Bad Chodolo!

Never, EVER, use "Michael Moore" and "porn" in the same sentence again!

*grabs tissue and vaseline, pops in F 9/11 again* :p

Bad Chodolo!

Never, EVER, use "Michael Moore" and "porn" in the same sentence again!
Just realized the horror that those words in conjunction cause...
Need images out of my mind...
gaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Michael Moore has no credibility

Michael Moore has no credibility

That's putting it mildly

If you would've read through the entire thread instead of my initial post, I didn't waste a dime on the movie, I had a free rental on my movie pass. :p
Well you get nothin for nothin then.

I made it through The Passion of the Christ a bit worse for wear... also rented it, won't purchase it, I thought there were too many Biblical inconsistencies and liberties taken by Mel Gibson.

I only tried to watch it b/c a jewish friend of mine was screaming about the anti-sematism or something.

It just sucked and was boring. I turned it off after 35-40 mins.

Later on I told him that if this was a big piece of propoganda for anti-semites they must have a huge attention span.

He admitted to never having seen it. As there has not been a big anti-jewish backlash in the US since it was released we both laugh at it now. Plus we both agree Mel Gibson is a moron for making more boring movies than Kevin Costner. So in some respects Mel's movie has served to unite christians and jews.

Seriously, I rented Fahrenheit 911 to see what the hype was all about... and at exactly 17:38 I stopped it, because I was appalled by the lack of any substance or merit or anything that it offered.

All the first 17 and a half minutes did was make me feel sorry for George W. Bush - this coming from an ardent Democrat and lefty - and want to give him a hug.

I must now affirm my believe that Michael Moore is a staunch idiot, who has no basis for any of his attacks of President Bush's conduct for September 11th.

So, this is the first movie I have ever stopped in the middle and put back in its case. Usually, if I hate a movie, I'll just leave it in for background noise and let it run its course to add to the list of movies I've seen... nope, not this time. It's a sad day indeed.


Glad you came to the realization, man! It's just a bummer you spent the money on the DVD, money that goes to that idiot!

I only tried to watch it b/c a jewish friend of mine was screaming about the anti-sematism or something.

It just sucked and was boring. I turned it off after 35-40 mins.

Later on I told him that if this was a big neacon for anti-semites they must have a huge attention span.

He admitted to never having seen it. As there has not been a big anti-jewish backlash in the US since it was released we both laugh at it now. Plus we both agree Mel Gibson is a moron for making more boring movies than Kevin Costner. So in some respects Mel's movie has served to unite christians and jews.

I refuse to watch any more of the spew that MM calls factual, free or not, I've seen enough of it from him to make a call on his views.

I actually just watche POTC last night w/ my wife and another couple. I only stayed awake because my wife was crying on my shoulded. My friends wife kept him awake by tapping him on the head. I can see where the charges of anti-semitism came from though, overblown that they are/were. Gibson has definately gone a little looney.

Glad you came to the realization, man! It's just a bummer you spent the money on the DVD, money that goes to that idiot!

He's a she and she had a free rental

Yes, I am a liberal, a registered Democrat, and a Kerry supporter, but I am not bound by party politics in the slightest.

I've never liked Michael Moore, nor did I see his movie in the theater, because I knew better. In fact, I used a free rental from Blockbuster to rent this out, because my fiancee wanted to see it.
It's good to see there is still hope for you. Realizing that Michael Moore is a talent-less idiot is the first step towards freeing your mind. Welcome home.

I refuse to watch any more of the spew that MM calls factual, free or not, I've seen enough of it from him to make a call on his views.

I actually just watche POTC last night w/ my wife and another couple. I only stayed awake because my wife was crying on my shoulded. My friends wife kept him awake by tapping him on the head. I can see where the charges of anti-semitism came from though, overblown that they are/were. Gibson has definately gone a little looney.


Wow, making it through the POTC, shows a commitment I just don't have.

I didn't get to the anti-semitic bits. What were they?

(Note I am not an anti-semite, I'm just curious)

Glad you came to the realization, man! It's just a bummer you spent the money on the DVD, money that goes to that idiot!

He's a she and she had a free rental

Ah, beat me to it!

It's good to see there is still hope for you. Realizing that Michael Moore is a talent-less idiot is the first step towards freeing your mind. Welcome home.

Well, thank-you, even though I already consider myself to have a free mind.
;)

Ah, beat me to it!

Glad I can be of help ma'am!

Well, thank-you, even though I already consider myself to have a free mind.
;)

This is accurate! hehe ;)

Wow, making it through the POTC, shows a commitment I just don't have.

I didn't get to the anti-semitic bits. What were they?

(Note I am not an anti-semite, I'm just curious)

Mostly characterization IMO. The Pharisees were psychotic, murderous zealots and the crowds were filthy, slobbering rabble.

Of course the Roman torturers weren't portrayed much better (surprise, surprise)

Michael Moore, first and foremost is an entrepreneur before hes anything else. He derives a profit from his artistic work.

His work takes a viewpoint popular to half of the population (or is it the majority?) and combined with emotive music, some camera work and 'hey presto'! $10 million dollars (haven't found the total revenue gathered from his works).

For the record, I'm Liberal.

I rented F9/11 yesterday, as I said I would do if Bush won re-election, just to see what the hype was about.. I was pretty surprised - the film had no spark, and no biting criticism whatsoever. However, I don't regret renting it, even if it put a dollar into Moore's pocket. Here's why:

First, I understand now why John McCain mentioned it at the RNC: Moore's idea of pre-war Iraq was like bad comedy.

Second, there was some humor in it, e.g., the way the Taliban leader insulted that female reporter, and the soldier singing 'the roof is on fire' and talking about how they rig their sound system to play music going into battle. I can't remember what the Taliban guy said, but it was still funny. And the part where one soldier describes how PsyOps used metal music to intimidate the insurgents was pretty funny too. So overall, there's some comedy that kept my interest.

Finally, I was disappointed at the scene which supposedly shows Bush freezing up after being told about 9/11.. Moore didn't even use the whole clip, but instead did an elapsed-time, minute-at-a-time fast foreward through it, which was pointless. I heard that that was the most effective part of the movie, and I wanted to see it, but it just wasn't. I guess I got to see what a joke the movie really was, which was worth it. ;)

My other promise if Bush won was to open my best bottle of ouzo.. I couldn't keep that promise though, and I still can't figure out why. For some reason, I didn't feel like celebrating, only a deep sense of relief.. I guess the failure of a hate campaign is more of a relief than something to celebrate.. I dunno.

Seriously, I rented Fahrenheit 911 to see what the hype was all about... and at exactly 17:38 I stopped it, because I was appalled by the lack of any substance or merit or anything that it offered.

All the first 17 and a half minutes did was make me feel sorry for George W. Bush - this coming from an ardent Democrat and lefty - and want to give him a hug.

I must now affirm my believe that Michael Moore is a staunch idiot, who has no basis for any of his attacks of President Bush's conduct for September 11th.

So, this is the first movie I have ever stopped in the middle and put back in its case. Usually, if I hate a movie, I'll just leave it in for background noise and let it run its course to add to the list of movies I've seen... nope, not this time. It's a sad day indeed.THAT'S HOW HE WON... MICHAEL MOORE'S CRAPPY FILM GAVE DUBYA THE PITY VOTE!

Actually if it's true, I wonder how M&M will feel about that.

THAT'S HOW HE WON... MICHAEL MOORE'S CRAPPY FILM GAVE DUBYA THE PITY VOTE!

He didn't win my pity vote... I still would've voted for Kerry. :)

THAT'S HOW HE WON... MICHAEL MOORE'S CRAPPY FILM GAVE DUBYA THE PITY VOTE!I think you mean Michael Moore's hit piece turned quite a few people against...John Kerry.