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I´ve seen the signature of Letita and found quite interesting he saying that the most orderly and organized societies were also the most violents. (or something like that, don´t remember the exact words).
So, what do you people think about it?

*finishes dismembering a girl scout* Hmm?

People don't like order: ANARCHY!

I´ve seen the signature of Letita and found quite interesting she saying that the most orderly and organized societies were also the most violents. (or something like that, don´t remember the exact words).
So, what do you people think about it?
I have to admit that Letila's statement has some truth to it . . . btw Letila is a he

I´ve seen the signature of Letita and found quite interesting she saying that the most orderly and organized societies were also the most violents. (or something like that, don´t remember the exact words).
So, what do you people think about it?
Stands to reason. When societies don't have any violence there's no reason to organize them. It's like how California didn't have any laws against necrophelia until the found some guy naked in a morgue.

I´ve seen the signature of Letita and found quite interesting she saying that the most orderly and organized societies were also the most violents. (or something like that, don´t remember the exact words).
So, what do you people think about it?

I think there's a lot of truth to it. Compare the nuclear bomb of the US to the bow and arrow of the Ju|'hõasi, for one thing.

But is violence necessary to an efficient organization?

But is violence necessary to an efficient organization?

I don't know. I personally think we do better without strict order. Humans have free will and when they are subjugated, we don't do well.

The least violent society's were based on full faith of its fellow people. Indians and many people of real faith live by these laws of nature. Imagine living in a place that was as stable minded as you were. A society that taught children to be themselves and not what anyone else in this world wants them to be. Taught them that its ok to have bad hand writing or sp[elling :) Let them know that competition is for the good of all, especially the ones that lose gracefully. Its not all about winning and then being unhumble. A society that teaches you that life here on earth is supposed to have at least a taste of heaven instead of some bland flavor. There are many faithfull out there, the ones that are living a life of peace are with God. Just remember the next time you feel like you are on top of the world with bad expectations and something bad or you do something stupid happens to you, it is God humbling you. Everything happens for a reason.

The least violent society's were based on full faith of its fellow people. Indians and many people of real faith live by these laws of nature. Imagine living in a place that was as stable minded as you were. A society that taught children to be themselves and not what anyone else in this world wants them to be. Taught them that its ok to have bad hand writing or sp[elling :) Let them know that competition is for the good of all, especially the ones that lose gracefully. Its not all about winning and then being unhumble. A society that teaches you that life here on earth is supposed to have at least a taste of heaven instead of some bland flavor. There are many faithfull out there, the ones that are living a life of peace are with God. Just remember the next time you feel like you are on top of the world with bad expectations and something bad or you do something stupid happens to you, it is God humbling you.

teaching children to be themselves would make a lot of children to be atheists. Anyway, there are many religious societies that are violent, we know that too well because of fundamentalist terrorists...
I think that a set of morals is essential to make a society to organize themselves, but believing that those morals come from a god is a lot worse then believing that those morals exist so we can survive...
Not meaning to offend, but, really, "god told you so" is not a good answer to "why can´t I kill my neighbour", this said, if someone stop believing in god he will see no reason to not murder, unless of course, the person live in a well educated society that teaches him that killing is wrong because is essential to society that one´s freedom don´t stay in the way of the freedom of another people.

I think there's a lot of truth to it. Compare the nuclear bomb of the US to the bow and arrow of the Ju|'hõasi, for one thing.
The WHAT?!

We create the violence, not an inanimate organization. Blame the organizers, not the organization.

teaching children to be themselves would make a lot of children to be atheists. Anyway, there are many religious societies that are violent, we know that too well because of fundamentalist terrorists...
I think that a set of morals is essential to make a society to organize themselves, but believing that those morals come from a god is a lot worse then believing that those morals exist so we can survive...
Not meaning to offend, but, really, "god told you so" is not a good answer to "why can´t I kill my neighbour", this said, if someone stop believing in good he will see no reason to not murder, unless of course, the person live in a well educated society that teaches him that killing is wrong because is essential to society that one´s freedom don´t stay in the way of the freedom of another people.

No, I apologise I wasn't clear prior. When you have fullfaith you don't have any doubt, it is a determined force of love that can not be broken or misguided. You minimize your assuming to a possible nil. It gives you premonition of possible needed knowledge. Sometimes useless but still useful in knowing what happened. You can declare yourself a athiest and just ask God for some love. God knows when you are not meaning what you say and I mean that. Love the truth and the truth will love you.

We create the violence, not an inanimate organization. Blame the organizers, not the organization.

True, though my point was that it encouages violence.

Letila, wtf is the Ju|'hõasi?

True, though my point was that it encouages violence.

Only when the organization feels that it must enforce conformity and its "morals."

Violence in societies are related to balance of wealth and class separation. When there are a great deal of have nots in relation to the rest of the society there will always be violence. It has very little to do with the level of development.

I like killing people in my nation. It's fun.

Violence in societies are related to balance of wealth and class separation. When there are a great deal of have nots in relation to the rest of the society there will always be violence. It has very little to do with the level of development.

Socialism does a great job reducing violence of one citzen against the other, but don´t change the fact the their governments are usually very violent against "rebels".