NationStates Jolt Archive

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Some (though not nearly most) liberals feel that democracy is fine so long as they get to inflict their views on the minority, but when they suddenly find themselves as the minority they leave rather than accept majority rules.

Where I come from that is called 'a sore loser'

Maybe 'Ahnold' is on to something.

I think it's a good idea. If they are not happy they should leave and go somewhere that they will be happy. Just like many other people form around the world want to leave where they are and move to the US.

But if they go I'll really miss their, um.
I'll really miss,

We won't have any...

Umm,

Without them we won't have any....

er,,

Do they need help packing?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cpress/20041104/ca_pr_on_na/yankee_go_north_3

Some (though not nearly most) liberals feel that democracy is fine so long as they get to inflict their views on the minority, but when they suddenly find themselves as the minority they leave rather than accept majority rules.

Where I come from that is called 'a sore loser'

Maybe 'Ahnold' is on to something.

America is not supposed to have majority rule, it is supposed to have everyone treated the same. These people thinking of leaving the states aren't worried about what America is about or founded on though, they are worried about what it will become. A little bit too worried about it though.

But if they go I'll really miss their, um.
I'll really miss,

We won't have any...

Umm,

Without them we won't have any....

er,,

Do they need help packing?

Yeah, the people getting ready to leave America are probably the ultra-reactionary liberals that post on here about how Bush wants to put babies on pikes. (I still love that one) Now if we could manage to get all of the neocons who say liberals hate America to go to Mexico and take advantage of the cheap labor, we could make real progress in the States.

America is not supposed to have majority rule, it is supposed to have everyone treated the same. These people thinking of leaving the states aren't worried about what America is about or founded on though, they are worried about what it will become. A little bit too worried about it though.
Ah, I see. So you feel your SO should treat me the same as you. Cool.

Can't really blame them for wanting to get out before Bush undoes all progress made in the last 50 years.

I think it's a good idea. If they are not happy they should leave and go somewhere that they will be happy. Just like many other people form around the world want to leave where they are and move to the US.
Exactly the same. So you do get it.
Moving from the US to Canada is just like moving from Mexico to America :D

Exactly the same. So you do get it.
Moving from the US to Canada is just like moving from Mexico to America :D
I'm going to hope that wa sarcastic, or I'd have to thwap you with my hockey stick eh.

Right! You get free healthcare either way.

However Canadian schools won't stick you in ESL classes, though they may force you to learn French.

Ah, I see. So you feel your SO should treat me the same as you. Cool.

What? I'm a little confused.

My SO?

If they are not happy they should leave and go somewhere that they will be happy.That's a possibilty yes. But they should think long and hard about such a drastic possibility. But perhaps some of them would be happier in Canada, and if so, welcome. You might want to avoid Alberta (essentially republican), and the maritimes (poor economy). But it is a nice country up here.

Can't really blame them for wanting to get out before Bush undoes all progress made in the last 50 years.


You mean we are going to have lynchings again?? woohoo.

oh wait, Im a minority. Damn

I would really like to know how any president could do something like that? Especially since they cant single handedly do important stuff like oh... writing legistalation.

Can't really blame them for wanting to get out before Bush undoes all progress made in the last 50 years.

meh, he'll make it 10 years tops before the GOP wakes up and see's what he's doing

Well I wouldn't be quoating Arnie.

He calls the Democrats losers and yet he failed to remove 12 of them this election.

So by moving to Canada, which is just as democratic as the US, they are showing how they don't like democracy?

I wonder how many of those checks are because people think there will be a dirty nuke or a bio attack?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cpress/20041104/ca_pr_on_na/yankee_go_north_3

Some (though not nearly most) liberals feel that democracy is fine so long as they get to inflict their views on the minority, but when they suddenly find themselves as the minority they leave rather than accept majority rules.

Where I come from that is called 'a sore loser'

Maybe 'Ahnold' is on to something.


My only suggestion to you is to eat a big steaming bowl of dick.

You might want to avoid Alberta (essentially republican),
Not really, they're more moderate than far-right Republican. More along the lines of John McCain than Rick Santorum.

I think it's a good idea. If they are not happy they should leave and go somewhere that they will be happy. Just like many other people form around the world want to leave where they are and move to the US.
There is something seriously wrong when there is such an extreme political leader that liberals feel bad enough to leave their country that they love. There are no excuses.

I thought the point of liberalism was _not_ pushing your views on others, and expecting others to do the same :rolls:
Look at the issues dude, and see how they tie in with that.

Actually, Democrats don't like it when civil liberties and freedoms are taken from us by a Republican Party that would rather impose morals through laws instead of allowing American citizens to choose their morals for themselves.

I thought the point of liberalism was _not_ pushing your views on others, and expecting others to do the same :rolls:
Look at the issues dude, and see how they tie in with that.

No, the point of liberalism is not to take away any person's rights based on the opinions of others.

No, the point of liberalism is not to take away any person's rights based on the opinions of others.
Alright, I conceed that that may be the correct definition but it's pretty much the gist of what I said.

I've said this before, but leaving America is the worst thing you can do.

We need to work for change from within, running away is just condemning America to slide further into extremist conservatism.

I'm a patriotic liberal, and I'm staying.

Alright, I conceed that that may be the correct definition but it's pretty much the gist of what I said.

One entry found for liberalism.


Main Entry: lib·er·al·ism
Pronunciation: 'li-b(&-)r&-"li-z&m
Function: noun
1 : the quality or state of being liberal
2 a often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity
b : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard
c : a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties
d capitalized : the principles and policies of a Liberal party

Thought I'd help you two confused souls out.

I missed the part about e: Run away if you don't get your way. Maybe your dictionary is different from mine.

Also, I find it interesting to see 'autonomy of the individual' used to describe the same folks who want us to believe that the solution to our problems can only be found in government.