Iraq is not the War on Terror
Ryanania
06-11-2004, 17:43
Those of us in the military know that the real war on terror is in Afghanistan. Unfortunately, many impressionable people believe that the war on terror is in Iraq, thus we get people saying "**** the war on terror!" Was anyone saying that before Iraq? Only the most extreme. Now that they have everything bass ackwards, they believe that the war on terror is bad. The war on terror is the fight against Usama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda-- not insurgents in Iraq.
It really hurts me to hear people say that they are against the war on terror, because I know what the war on terror really is, and it isn't what they think. Ultimately, certain elected officials who I am legally prohibited from badmouthing are to blame for this confusion.
All I'm trying to do is clear up the confusion that seems to have arisen, because I remember a time when people were sympathetic to the American cause. The war in Iraq ruined that.
Please don't confuse the war on terror with the war in Iraq.
Even Newer Talgania
06-11-2004, 17:50
Those of us in the military know that the real war on terror is in Afghanistan. Unfortunately, many impressionable people believe that the war on terror is in Iraq, thus we get people saying "**** the war on terror!" Was anyone saying that before Iraq? Only the most extreme. Now that they have everything bass ackwards, they believe that the war on terror is bad. The war on terror is the fight against Usama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda-- not insurgents in Iraq.
It really hurts me to hear people say that they are against the war on terror, because I know what the war on terror really is, and it isn't what they think. Ultimately, certain elected officials who I am legally prohibited from badmouthing are to blame for this confusion.
All I'm trying to do is clear up the confusion that seems to have arisen, because I remember a time when people were sympathetic to the American cause. The war in Iraq ruined that.
Please don't confuse the war on terror with the war in Iraq.
It is not "the" war on terror, in its entirety. It IS one particular front in the war on terror; one of many.
"Sun Tzu said: Therefore the clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy's will to be imposed on him.
By holding out advantages to him, he can cause the enemy to approach of his own accord; or, by inflicting damage, he can make it impossible for the enemy to draw near."
We chose to make Iraq a magnet for terrorists. Now, we are imposing our will on them, keeping them hidden and dodging ordnance. We made them approach of (seemingly, to them) their own accord, and we are inflicting damage on them, to keep them away from American soil.
American Republic
06-11-2004, 17:51
Those of us in the military know that the real war on terror is in Afghanistan. Unfortunately, many impressionable people believe that the war on terror is in Iraq, thus we get people saying "**** the war on terror!" Was anyone saying that before Iraq? Only the most extreme. Now that they have everything bass ackwards, they believe that the war on terror is bad. The war on terror is the fight against Usama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda-- not insurgents in Iraq.
Insurgents in iraq=terrorists! ans+Iraq=War on terror in Iraq! Insurgents are blowing up not only military targets (which is actually legal), they are also blowing civilian targets up ON PURPOSE which=Terrorism. This means that the War in Iraq is part of the war on terror. I know your in the military obviously but so is a relative of mine and he says that the War in Iraq is also part of the war on terror. Look at what the insurgents are doing in Iraq and you would be able to see this.
It really hurts me to hear people say that they are against the war on terror, because I know what the war on terror really is, and it isn't what they think. Ultimately, certain elected officials who I am legally prohibited from badmouthing are to blame for this confusion.
I think your the one that is confused. Iraq, as stated is part of the war on terror. BTW, I know who your talking about. But I will agree with you that it pains me to hear that people are against the war terror.
All I'm trying to do is clear up the confusion that seems to have arisen, because I remember a time when people were sympathetic to the American cause. The war in Iraq ruined that.
The only confusion I'm seeing here is that you have not seen that the War in Iraq is also part of the War on Terror! They are both the same war and most people in the military agree on this.
Please don't confuse the war on terror with the war in Iraq.
And they are part of the same war. I think your the one that is confused.
Ryanania
06-11-2004, 17:58
Insurgents in iraq=terrorists! ans+Iraq=War on terror in Iraq! Insurgents are blowing up not only military targets (which is actually legal), they are also blowing civilian targets up ON PURPOSE which=Terrorism. This means that the War in Iraq is part of the war on terror. I know your in the military obviously but so is a relative of mine and he says that the War in Iraq is also part of the war on terror. Look at what the insurgents are doing in Iraq and you would be able to see this.
I think your the one that is confused. Iraq, as stated is part of the war on terror. BTW, I know who your talking about. But I will agree with you that it pains me to hear that people are against the war terror.
The only confusion I'm seeing here is that you have not seen that the War in Iraq is also part of the War on Terror! They are both the same war and most people in the military agree on this.
And they are part of the same war. I think your the one that is confused.Iraq is technically part of the war on terror now, but it isn't terrorism that's a threat to us. We all know that the real threat is Usama bin Laden. Iraq is really an entirely different war on terror, because it's local terrorism that doesn't really affect us. Al-Qaeda is the real enemy.
Kinda Sensible people
06-11-2004, 18:02
I think your the one that is confused. Iraq, as stated is part of the war on terror. BTW, I know who your talking about. But I will agree with you that it pains me to hear that people are against the war terror.
I think you make an important point.... it is the "war terror" not the "war on terror".
The only important terrorist in the world is GWB.
Even Newer Talgania
06-11-2004, 18:02
Iraq is technically part of the war on terror now, but it isn't terrorism that's a threat to us. We all know that the real threat is Usama bin Laden. Iraq is really an entirely different war on terror, because it's local terrorism that doesn't really affect us. Al-Qaeda is the real enemy.
I must have missed 60 Minutes. When did we stop fighting Al-Qaeda and looking for UBL?
There is no war on terror. There is no global terror network. Al Qaeda as understood by the initial poster in this thread does not exist. That is all, really.
Even Newer Talgania
06-11-2004, 18:06
There is no war on terror. There is no global terror network. Al Qaeda as understood by the initial poster in this thread does not exist. That is all, really.
"These aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along."
Nice try, Obi-Wan.
look, I'll say something most people won't shouldn't like. IF usa wanted an iraq that would listen it would have dragged out every male suspected of anything and shot them. I mean a couple million rounded up sent out into the desert and killed. This lesson comes from nazi germany. You look at how hitler controlled a foriegn countries it was with an iron will (no one thought ohh hitler can't due this he'll get bad press and fold). Not a democratic pussying public. you kill that many people and no one will **** with you. Also If you invade a country and take it over you have to keep 300,000 men there for at least 5 years to straighten it out.
one last point why are iraqi's allowed 1 ak 47 per household. thats not a good thing for the soldiers who have to go in and check out homes for weapon stashes.
Lars moisture Farm
06-11-2004, 18:21
First, it's Osama, not Usama.
Second, America should have taken some of that record military budget and spent it on education, judging from the spelling I am seeing in American Postings.
Lars moisture Farm
06-11-2004, 18:28
TO MVD: Why the hell are Americans allowed the same weapons you are questioning about in regards to Iraqi freedoms. Do you think your police back home want AK's in houses that they have to raid?
How can you Americans think that it is ok for you to have assault weapons but no one else? How can you Americans think it is ok for you to have Nukes, but no other countries?
Even Newer Talgania
06-11-2004, 18:29
TO MVD: Why the hell are Americans allowed the same weapons you are questioning about in regards to Iraqi freedoms. Do you think your police back home want AK's in houses that they have to raid?
How can you Americans think that it is ok for you to have assault weapons but no one else? How can you Americans think it is ok for you to have Nukes, but no other countries?
Because we said so. What are you gonna do about it?
Ryanania
06-11-2004, 19:04
First, it's Osama, not Usama.
Second, America should have taken some of that record military budget and spent it on education, judging from the spelling I am seeing in American Postings.Usama is a legitimate way of spelling it, as it is translated from a non-Roman alphabet. It's perfectly acceptable to spell it with either a u or an o. And if you want to be taken seriously, resorting to petty grammar attacks is not the way to do it. That's one of the reasons I have such a hard time keeping my temper in check when it comes to talking to foreigners on the internet-- it seems like all you people ever do is say that Americans are stupid. I don't make disrespectful comments about your nation or your countrymen, so I'd appreciate the same kind of respect in return.
Brookslin
06-11-2004, 19:26
Ryania, you aren't even in the military so just STFU.