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Some thoughts: Breaking down the myths.

Pepe Dominguez
06-11-2004, 13:29
Was this election a referendum on religion?

31% of atheists voted for Bush, to Kerry's 67%.

36% of people who don't attend church (Ever) voted for Bush.

35% of people who attend church more than once per week voted for Kerry - it works both ways.

Only 8% of people chose religious faith as the most important quality in a President.

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So naturally, the question on everyone's mind is: What's Pepe's analysis on the issues that turned the election? Well, here goes:

22% of people chose Moral Values as their top priority, causing a flurry of reactionary anti-Christian hot air among the leftwing editorial writers.. but don't buy it.

People chose moral values because, while Bush and Kerry's plans for Iraq and terrorism were nearly identical, they trusted Bush more to actually follow through.

11% chose honesty as the most important trait in a President, 70% of which voted Bush. 17% each chose "Clear position on issues" and "strong leader" as the most important, 79 and 87% of which chose Bush. Again, only 8% chose religion.

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So did Bush win through "fear mongering," as we've been told so many times?

54% of voters feel safer now than in 2000, 79% of which voted Bush.
Out of the 22% who said they were "very worried" about terrorism, 56% voted Kerry! So, if it's really Bush's secret evil plan to keep us all worried about terrorism, either it backfired or was never intended to begin with.

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So what happened?

It all boils down to the old question: do voters feel better today than they did four years ago?

57% of voters said they were better off or the same, financially.
66% of voters think the Bush tax cuts were either good for the economy or had no impact.

If the polls beforehand were right, and people really thought the country was headed in the wrong direction by such large margins, Bush would've been toast. In reality, on election day, voters said we were headed in the right direction by 49-46%. That's what it's about.

And that's the last you'll hear from ole' Pepe on Election 2004. Good night! :)
HyperionCentauri
06-11-2004, 13:35
al quida dosnt exist.. or at least didn't exist until after 9/11

i think the threat of terrorism in our western nations from al quida after 9/11 was also a myth, but becoming a reality thanks to the USA..
Cosgrach
06-11-2004, 13:43
al quida dosnt exist.. or at least didn't exist until after 9/11

i think the threat of terrorism in our western nations from al quida after 9/11 was also a myth, but becoming a reality thanks to the USA..

Al Qaeda has been around for awhile now. YOU might not have known about them before then though :rolleyes:

edit: concerning the original post, thanks for the info. ;)
Apollina
06-11-2004, 13:50
al quida dosnt exist.. or at least didn't exist until after 9/11

i think the threat of terrorism in our western nations from al quida after 9/11 was also a myth, but becoming a reality thanks to the USA..

I guess you are speaking after wathing Adam Curtis's documentary. He did not say Al Qaeda does not exist, just that it was not in existance as an organisation, it is the name they used to refer to an idea, a philosophy of overthrowing the secular Arab governments and replacing them with Islaminc ones, stopping the Western liberalism and decadence they see as eroding thier society.

Al Qaeda as an organisation with a figurehead only came into existance because the US government could only prosecute Bin Laden in absentia via anti-mafia laws if he was a figurehead of an organistation. A war on an idea will never be won with military means, you can take out Bin Laden, Al Zawahari and Al Zaquawi, but that will not kill the idea, in fact it runs the risk of making it stronger. Al Qaeda was not a network, simply an idea held by a number of terrorist/rebel groups arond the globe.

However now the West has created this network, Bin Laden and his lackeys are milking it for all they can get by spreading rumours about capabilities it is doubtful they really have. The majority of terrorist work and thier capabilites is bluff to keep people scared, rather than them actually having that capability.

EDIT - also the idea was to attack the source of the decadence as they saw it, and that was of course "the Great Satan" of the USA, right or wrong they saw the US as the reason behind the sreading of the ideals of individualism that they saw as breaking apart thier society and way of life.