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Here's the average IQ by state according to the Ravens Advanced Progressive Matrices. This comparison is drawn by Dave Friedel, Jr. Draw your own conclusions about education vs. votes.


AVG IQ AVG Income '04 Electoral
(1) Connecticut..................113 $26,979 Kerry
(2) Massachusetts................111 $24,059 Kerry
(3) New Jersey...................111 $26,457 Kerry
(4) New York.....................109 $23,534 Kerry
(5) Rhode Island.................107 $20,299 Kerry
(6) Hawaii.......................106 $21,218 Kerry
(7) Maryland.....................105 $22,974 Kerry
(8) New Hampshire................105 $22,934 Kerry
(9) Illinois.....................104 $21,608 Kerry
(10) Delaware....................103 $21,451 Kerry
(11) Minnesota...................102 $20,049 Kerry
(12) Vermont.....................102 $18,834 Kerry
(13) Washington..................102 $20,398 Kerry
(14) California..................101 $21,278 Kerry
(15) Pennsylvania................101 $20,253 Kerry
(16) Maine.......................100 $18,226 Kerry
(17) Wisconsin...................100 $18,727 Kerry
(18) Virginia....................100 $20,629 Bush
(19) Iowa.........................99 $18,287 Kerry
(20) Oregon.......................99 $18,202 Kerry
(21) Colorado.....................99 $20,124 Bush
(22) Michigan.....................99 $19,508 Bush
(23) Nevada.......................99 $20,266 Bush
(24) Ohio.........................99 $18,624 Bush
(25) Alaska.......................98 $21,603 Bush
(26) Florida......................98 $19,397 Bush
(27) Missouri.....................98 $18,835 Bush
(28) Kansas.......................96 $19,376 Bush
(29) Nebraska.....................95 $19,084 Bush
(30) Arizona......................94 $17,119 Bush
(31) Indiana......................94 $18,043 Bush
(32) Tennessee....................94 $17,341 Bush
(33) North Carolina...............93 $17,667 Bush
(34) West Virginia................93 $15,065 Bush
(35) Arkansas.....................92 $15,439 Bush
(36) Georgia......................92 $18,130 Bush
(37) Kentucky.....................92 $16,534 Bush
(38) New Mexico...................92 $15,353 Bush
(39) North Dakota.................92 $16,854 Bush
(40) Texas........................92 $17,892 Bush
(41) Alabama......................90 $16,220 Bush
(42) Louisiana....................90 $15,712 Bush
(43) Montana......................90 $16,062 Bush
(44) Oklahoma.....................90 $16,198 Bush
(45) South Dakota.................90 $16,558 Bush
(46) South Carolina...............89 $15,989 Bush
(47) Wyoming......................89 $17,423 Bush
(48) Idaho........................87 $16,067 Bush
(49) Utah.........................87 $15,325 Bush
(50) Mississippi..................85 $14,088 Bush

Bush..... IQ: 91
Kerry.... IQ: 128

* Retarded is considered 75-85.

Who's more retarded? The fictional people in your list or the third person to post said incorrect list in as many days?

Here's the average IQ by state according to the Ravens Advanced Progressive Matrices. This comparison is drawn by Dave Friedel, Jr. Draw your own conclusions about education vs. votes.


AVG IQ AVG Income '04 Electoral
(1) Connecticut..................113 $26,979 Kerry
(2) Massachusetts................111 $24,059 Kerry
(3) New Jersey...................111 $26,457 Kerry
(4) New York.....................109 $23,534 Kerry
(5) Rhode Island.................107 $20,299 Kerry
(6) Hawaii.......................106 $21,218 Kerry
(7) Maryland.....................105 $22,974 Kerry
(8) New Hampshire................105 $22,934 Kerry
(9) Illinois.....................104 $21,608 Kerry
(10) Delaware....................103 $21,451 Kerry
(11) Minnesota...................102 $20,049 Kerry
(12) Vermont.....................102 $18,834 Kerry
(13) Washington..................102 $20,398 Kerry
(14) California..................101 $21,278 Kerry
(15) Pennsylvania................101 $20,253 Kerry
(16) Maine.......................100 $18,226 Kerry
(17) Wisconsin...................100 $18,727 Kerry
(18) Virginia....................100 $20,629 Bush
(19) Iowa.........................99 $18,287 Kerry
(20) Oregon.......................99 $18,202 Kerry
(21) Colorado.....................99 $20,124 Bush
(22) Michigan.....................99 $19,508 Bush
(23) Nevada.......................99 $20,266 Bush
(24) Ohio.........................99 $18,624 Bush
(25) Alaska.......................98 $21,603 Bush
(26) Florida......................98 $19,397 Bush
(27) Missouri.....................98 $18,835 Bush
(28) Kansas.......................96 $19,376 Bush
(29) Nebraska.....................95 $19,084 Bush
(30) Arizona......................94 $17,119 Bush
(31) Indiana......................94 $18,043 Bush
(32) Tennessee....................94 $17,341 Bush
(33) North Carolina...............93 $17,667 Bush
(34) West Virginia................93 $15,065 Bush
(35) Arkansas.....................92 $15,439 Bush
(36) Georgia......................92 $18,130 Bush
(37) Kentucky.....................92 $16,534 Bush
(38) New Mexico...................92 $15,353 Bush
(39) North Dakota.................92 $16,854 Bush
(40) Texas........................92 $17,892 Bush
(41) Alabama......................90 $16,220 Bush
(42) Louisiana....................90 $15,712 Bush
(43) Montana......................90 $16,062 Bush
(44) Oklahoma.....................90 $16,198 Bush
(45) South Dakota.................90 $16,558 Bush
(46) South Carolina...............89 $15,989 Bush
(47) Wyoming......................89 $17,423 Bush
(48) Idaho........................87 $16,067 Bush
(49) Utah.........................87 $15,325 Bush
(50) Mississippi..................85 $14,088 Bush

Bush..... IQ: 91
Kerry.... IQ: 128

* Retarded is considered 75-85.

Nice fact blunder-head.

BTW This is an urban legend and has absolutely no truth to it. How can you get an average IQ of an entire state?

"You sir are a fountain of misinformation!" Gorilla Monsoon

IQ of people who post this fucking list: 14
Braindead:20
IQ points lost just reading this post: 7

And just so you know, Bush scored higher on his SATs and a military exam than Kerry did. Bush isn't stupid, he just plays dumb for the masses, and flat out refuses to analyze himself or his decisions.

I'm a Kerry voter, but at least I don't feel the need to make up shit to feel good about my decision.

Also just to prove your "facts" incorrect, might I add Bush has a higher IQ then Kerry. ;)

I find this insulting and offensive.
Why will the moderators allow this thread?

fuck you guys, the source is listed at the top of the post.
IQ of you're an asshole...

Nice fact blunder-head.

BTW This is an urban legend and has absolutely no truth to it. How can you get an average IQ of an entire state?

"You sir are a fountain of misinformation!" Gorilla Monsoon

There have been studies that have taken large samples and compiled stats based on state IQ. The IQ's range from about 104 being the smartest to about 95 being the worst. There is a slight correlation, but not one that I think is significant. The lone 95: Washington D.C. which voted predominantly democrat.

fuck you guys, the source is listed at the top of the post.
IQ of you're an asshole...
So what? All that proves is that someone, who isn't you, made it up. For the last fucking time: http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/1004/
Do some fact checking before you waste everyone's time.

There have been studies that have taken large samples and compiled stats based on state IQ. The IQ's range from about 104 being the smartest to about 95 being the worst. There is a slight correlation, but not one that I think is significant. The lone 95: Washington D.C. which voted predominantly democrat.


Yes you can have an "average" for IQ in a state, but it will be nowhere near accurate. You have many people living in states that have never been tested.

I find this insulting and offensive.
Why will the moderators allow this thread?
Because its funny man, relax

fuck you guys, the source is listed at the top of the post.
IQ of you're an asshole...

I found the sources home page, and while they do talk a great deal about testing for education and such they mention no tests like this. The real source for this is The Economist who could not provide a source for it when it was debunked.

That is unless you actually post a source.

Because its funny man, relax
It was funny the first FOUR times. The FIFTH time this crap gets posted is pretty fucking stupid.

Hey all I can find is that this guy if it's the same guy writes books about programming and software. And so what? It is true that people with more education tend to vote democrat, Want me to find the Dick Cheney quote on that?

Yes you can have an "average" for IQ in a state, but it will be nowhere near accurate. You have many people living in states that have never been tested.

Yes, but the purpose of a sample is to provide a projection of the whole. All of science was built on samples and have proven them to be sufficiently accurate when used correctly.

In fact, by your logic you could say that Bush didn't win the election because we only had a sample of the entire population vote.

Not saying his imformation is correct, just that you can get good accurate calculations based on entire samples. I'm guessing your state was near the bottom? If it was take heart, if you had been sampled you may have raised the IQ to near 100.

Hey all I can find is that this guy if it's the same guy writes books about programming and software. And so what? It is true that people with more education tend to vote democrat, Want me to find the Dick Cheney quote on that?

I will agree there as a great majority of scientists, researchers, and professors are very liberal. But the last time I checked they didn't teach you which president to vote for in school.

Hey all I can find is that this guy if it's the same guy writes books about programming and software. And so what? It is true that people with more education tend to vote democrat, Want me to find the Dick Cheney quote on that?
Post secondary education tends to vote Democrat. College graduates vote Republican. High school drop-outs/no education tend to vote Democrat as well. That means nothing. Your source is wrong and you're foolish for believing it.

It was funny the first FOUR times. The FIFTH time this crap gets posted is pretty fucking stupid.

Actually this was pretty damn stupid the first four or so times. I say we flame this thread up so we don't have to see it again. Aranamar you are a faggoty cocksucker who should just take a long walk off a short peir.

I never said what I believed about it. You guys came in to flame me, I didnt know it was posted four times already or I wouldnt have you assmonkeys

I never said what I believed about it. You guys came in to flame me, I didnt know it was posted four times already or I wouldnt have you assmonkeys
Most of the flaming isn't coming from the fact you posted it. It's coming from the fact you posted it without making any effort to verify it.

The fact that he didn't even get the states right!!!! Michigan, for one, went Kerry. Geez, What a fuktard!!!

Most of the flaming isn't coming from the fact you posted it. It's coming from the fact you posted it without making any effort to verify it.
Then that's all that would happen on these boards. Everything posted here is verified? The only thing I can verify here is what a bunch of pricks troll this place.

Then that's all that would happen on these boards. Everything posted here is verified? The only thing I can verify here is what a bunch of pricks troll this place.
No, not everything is verified. Case in point: your stupid thread. You're not the only one to be laughed it for poor fact-checking, just the most recent.

This information is clearly incorrect. Just the fact that Mississippi could not possibly have a statewide average of 85 should be enough to convince you. That's saying that 1/2 of the population of mississippi is retarded. Not likely.

As for Bush and Kerry's IQs,
I read a news report that said the compulsory military IQ tests that both candidates took scored Kerry at 120 and Bush at 125.

Honestly, both too low in my books. (Though I supported Kerry)

For the record, the national IQ of the united states is 98, same as Canada. BUT canada overwhelmingly supported Kerry, so IQ does not really come into it.

Korea's average IQ is 107. Food for thought.

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/1004/
Do some fact checking before you waste everyone's time.

Thank you for the site. Always good to have a source to verify the validity (or lack thereof) of information posted. I tried to verify this info via snopes, but only found the obviously false:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm
http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/gop.asp

I did find some interesting links from the museumofhoaxes site. While not specifically addressing IQ vs. Voting Preferences, I thought they are interesting and do provide some food for thought. Not exactly sure what they say about either candidate's supporters, but I did feel they were somewhat along the same lines and therefore could be considered 'on topic.'

http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/Report10_21_04.pdf
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~bergen/bush.html

Disclaimer: I was unable to confirm nor refute either of these site's claims.

Again, thanks for the website.

[QUOTE=Diamond Mind]Here's the average IQ by state according to the Ravens Advanced Progressive Matrices. This comparison is drawn by Dave Friedel, Jr. Draw your own conclusions about education vs. votes.]

first off...bull

second..i.q. is not an indicator of level of education...

Goddammit, how many times does this have to be posted before people get the idea that it's been done a billion times, nobody cares anymore, and most of us think it's a load of bullshit?