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Not only did you organize the murder of thousands of Americans, which led to a war against Afganistan, and by extension a war against Iraq, with tens of thousands more dead, and a bad image for Islam worldwide...

but you got Bush re-elected.

Kerry couldn't shake Bush's post-9/11 bounce. Terrorism was a big issue for many voters, and they voted for the incumbent.

Who honestly thinks Bush could have been re-elected if 9/11 never happened? What would he run on...his fantastic economic record? :p

I hate you Osama with a passion that the Republicans try to say liberals don't have. You have condemned us to four more years of authoritarian moralizing.

The damage you have caused America is far greater and long-lasting than you could have hoped.

In a way, you have already won.

In a way, you have already won.

Of course he already won. Some Americans bought into the mentality of fear and voted for the candidate who could best protect them from the terrorists who had caused that fear. That's all it takes for terror to win. Just fear.

I hate you OBL
Same here - I hate him with a passion!

That pre-election taped message worked beautifully- just as people were starting to forget.....

*BOOM*, there he is again.

Then the administration jumps on it and constantly bombards the public with Fear! Fear! Fear! (wolves ad: that was simply disgraceful), vote for us, we throw guns and money at anything remotely to do with terrorism and we can protect you (despite our inane failure to do so on 9/11).

Bush administration has managed to convince Americans that Osama is as powerful as the US. This is of course not true, but by claiming he is, they can assure people that they have to use heavy military force against other nations. Maybe they realise that the war against terrorism can not be win by bombing civilians (and fighters) in middle east and they just use "the war on terror" as an excuse. Or maybe they honestly believe that bombing Iraq protects them from another attack against USA, eventhough all the terrorist involved in 9/11 had lived in US and Europe for years before the attacks.

Saddam has been captured, but Osama is still free.

Some Americans bought into the mentality of fear and voted for the candidate who could best protect them from the terrorists who had caused that fear.
You mean the candidate who has failed to catch Osama.

Yes, it appears that the "Fear Factor" played a large part in the re-election of George Bush, which I really find kind of ironic. While many Americans felt that Bush was better suited to fight the so called "War on Terrorism", than John Kerry, which given the following makes little to no sense?

Bin Laden (public enemy number one), is still at large due to a bungled attempt to capture him at Bora Bora, and Bush's failed promise to hunt him down should have been reason enough to vote against him. Bin Laden's pre-election taunt, should have provided even more reason to turf Bush?

The second part of the equation that doesn't make sense is the total failure of the Iraq liberation program, which despite costing hundreds of billions of dollars (in the long run), despite causing thousands of US casualties, and despite causing an increase in terrorist activities was perceived by the US electorate as a Bush strength?

The third part of the equation that doesn't make sense, is that Americans by and large felt that Bush was a better prospect for defending America even though he spent way too much time in a Florida classroom while America was actually being attacked on 9/11?

There are more parts to the equation which should have resulted in votes against Bush but these are the more obvious ones. All in all, it boggles the mind, the more that I think about it.

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How did this thread get so off topic? lol...

It is plain to see as an outside observer (i'm english) that the terrorist 'threat' is nowhere near what the Republicans play it up to be...

BUT never think terrorism doesn't exist, whatever Michael Moore will say. 9/11 did still happen.

Conclusion; believe no-one. Especially Bush.


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It's become too trendy to hate Bush, which is why I don't.

"Fahrenheit 9/11" and other movies like purposely view Bush in a bad light. Why? Because Michael Moore decided to do that, and now almost everyone is buying in on it and not they hate Bush simply because of the reasons Mr. Moore gave them. I'm not saying that they are stupid reasons, but think about it: if you were the President of the United States, and you're spending some time out of your already life-consuming job to read to some children and you heard that 3000 people were killed in less than an hour. Wouldn't you take some time to really think about that?

Just in case, I'm not American, I say this because everyone in The Netherlands supported Kerry, and I was really surprised to find that Kerry lost, and that he withdrew from the race to let Bush win.

but think about it: if you were the President of the United States, and you're spending some time out of your already life-consuming job to read to some children and you heard that 3000 people were killed in less than an hour. Wouldn't you take some time to really think about that?
That would be equivalent to first responders answering a 911 call and stopping for coffee first?

When your country is under attack, as commander in chief, you shouldn't have the luxury of taking time to "think about it".....the need was for action. He could think about it as he rolled up his sleeves and went to work?

Just in case, I'm not American, I say this because everyone in The Netherlands supported Kerry, and I was really surprised to find that Kerry lost, and that he withdrew from the race to let Bush win.

It's a little more involved than just withdrawing to let the other candidate win. Typically in the US when it has become clear that once side has lost and has no chance of winning, then they are expected to give a concession speech. What kerry did or did not say wouldn't have changed the outcome. He just didn't want to drag it out. It makes people respect him more.

I'm not saying that I agree with Osama Bin Laden's cause, but I feel that many Americans have looked at 9/11 in the wrong way and tried to simple raw revenge from terrorist networks ever since. I feel that the way the UK has responded has been appaling too, but Tony Blair was dragged along by George Bush. As the only remaining superpower, Americans should be a lot more careful in their foriegn affairs as there are many people who view the American imposing of their style of democracy as vicious, and many hate the US for that fact alone. Americans in power should have discussed the Afghanistan and Iraq war more thoughroughly with other leaders around the globe in the UN more: the US is responsible for everyone in the world, not just it's citizens.

Who honestly thinks Bush could have been re-elected if 9/11 never happened? What would he run on...his fantastic economic record? :p

337,000 jobs were created last month. Twice the number expected. September jobs were also revised up to 139,000.

337,000 jobs were created last month. Twice the number expected. September jobs were also revised up to 139,000.
What about the previous month? And the month before that? And the one before that? Before that?
Job creation has consistently been much lower than expected.

"Fahrenheit 9/11" and other movies like purposely view Bush in a bad light. Why? Because Michael Moore decided to do that, and now almost everyone is buying in on it and not they hate Bush simply because of the reasons Mr. Moore gave them. I'm not saying that they are stupid reasons, but think about it: if you were the President of the United States, and you're spending some time out of your already life-consuming job to read to some children and you heard that 3000 people were killed in less than an hour. Wouldn't you take some time to really think about that?

The truth is that Andy Card told the President that an airplane had crashed into the WTC, at that precise moment we DID NOT KNOW that this was a coordinated terrorist attack. You can monday morning quarterback all you want, but I believe was proper for the President not to rush off half cocked on what at the time could have been a terrible accident, as opposed to the act of war it turned out to be.

It's become too trendy to hate Bush, which is why I don't.

"Fahrenheit 9/11" and other movies like purposely view Bush in a bad light. Why? Because Michael Moore decided to do that, and now almost everyone is buying in on it and not they hate Bush simply because of the reasons Mr. Moore gave them. I'm not saying that they are stupid reasons, but think about it: if you were the President of the United States, and you're spending some time out of your already life-consuming job to read to some children and you heard that 3000 people were killed in less than an hour. Wouldn't you take some time to really think about that?

Just in case, I'm not American, I say this because everyone in The Netherlands supported Kerry, and I was really surprised to find that Kerry lost, and that he withdrew from the race to let Bush win.
That's only true if you've had your head up your ass for the last four years. Farenheight 911 didn't introduce any information that wasn't already available in the press. For people that read and are interested in politics, all MM did was put together a series of facts in order to express his opinion. You can choose to not be informed, inform yourself, or let some pundit form your view for you. Most americans choose the latter, I'll give you that. Just like the fact that most people don't know that the BCCI scandal made the Bush family rich and also funded Osama Bin Laden. And that John Kerry is the Senator who busted people on that. I don't think MM or anyone else made an issue of this.

Of course he already won.I think so...even if we ever catch him...even if we ever kill him....He already Won.

Of course he already won. Some Americans bought into the mentality of fear and voted for the candidate who could best protect them from the terrorists who had caused that fear. That's all it takes for terror to win. Just fear.

No man can ever be truly free as long as fear rules his heart.

There is a reason why the old "Land of the Free" was followed by "Home of the Brave". It appears that may have changed.