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...does that mean we can stop spending billions of dollars every year so Israel doesn't have to negotiate with it's neighbors?

we're at peace with most of our neighbours. You knew that right?
Jordan and Egypt are both friendly nations now, and Lebanon are Syrian controlled so basically our only enemy is Syria and all they're doing is arming and funding the terrorist groups. The main problem is the territories, where nobody wants peace yet we're to blame for war:rolleyes:

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Good one.

My purpose in this thread is not to analyzr Israel vs. Palestine. Or Israel vs. The Middle East.

Plenty of threads for that. My purpose for this thread is to analyze the fact that for decades, we have financed Israel in such a way that they don't have to negotiate at all. U.S. money didn't purchase peace, it rented time. It drew out the middle eastern peace process by those same decades. If Israel had as much vested interest in peace as the Palestinians did, then maybe there would be some. But when it's Apache helicopters and tanks vs. kids with rocks, it's hard to have a vested interest in negotiating.

Personally, if I were in charge of the Palestinian authority, I would simply declare independence from Israel. I wouldn't wait for a 'change of policy'. I would stop bombing restaurants and buses and other self-destructive nonsense and declare with pride that Israeli troops are no longer welcome in the Free State of Palestine and I'd call on all palestinian citizens to repel the invaders from Gaza and The West Bank. In my opinion, if you're going to fight, fight for something you can be proud of.

But nobody ever said that terrorists were visionaries.

6 billion dollars a year to israel isnt it? for free?

that arrogant, semi-fascist government developed the bomb with that money an..

But if they were cut off from Israel, Israel would cut off aid. Yeah, Israel send a lot of money to the PA each year. The Palestinians economy is none existent, and Syria etc... would also stop funding because their funding is in order to destroy Israel.

But if they were cut off from Israel, Israel would cut off aid. Yeah, Israel send a lot of money to the PA each year. The Palestinians economy is none existent, and Syria etc... would also stop funding because their funding is in order to destroy Israel.

So what you're saying is that just likeIsrael, Palestine couldn't exist without foreign aid.

So what you're saying is that just likeIsrael, Palestine couldn't exist without foreign aid.
They threw away whatever economy they had on their pitiful attempts to look "oppressed". Palestine wouldn't be recognized by the international community, just saying its now your country doesn't make it so. Israel is recognized, thats the difference. Also, Israel recieves foreign aid so they can survive. Palestine wouldn't recieve any so they couldn't survive.

Hey lunatic goofballs, you're supposed to make fun of everything! not talk politics! go home and sleep. :mad:

Sorry. I must've been tired. I'm feeling better now. Want a taco? :)

Hell freezes over when Iran is our ally. They support terrorism in all its myriad forms and are well on the way towards a functional atomic weapon.

And besides, if anyone cuts the military, the Republicans call them traitors who want to weaken our country.

I would be gravely concerned if US aid to Israel dried up, I am forced to wonder how Israel can negotiate with those of its neighbours who dont even recognise Israels right to exist? If the Arab World were to see Israel abandoned by its main ally how long before Israel found itself under attack?
In Europe there are more votes to be gained from Muslims by criticising Israel than there are votes to be gained from Jews by being supportive of Israel, so the hardening of attitudes by opportunistic European politicians is to be expected, if not sympathised with. However in the US the jewish lobby is still able to argue more effectively than the muslim one, if when that ever changes I shudder to think of what fate awaits Israel :(

eh, I fear the fate of any Arab state that thinks to attack an Israel that doesn't have to listen to the US when our president tells them to turn the other cheek (see Gulf War 1). I'd like to see exactly what the money we are giving Israel is being spent on.

eh, I fear the fate of any Arab state that thinks to attack an Israel that doesn't have to listen to the US when our president tells them to turn the other cheek (see Gulf War 1). I'd like to see exactly what the money we are giving Israel is being spent on.
Without US money that nice shiney Israeli Defence Force will **slowly** run out of a)spare parts and replacement ordinance and b)wont be able to spend as much time training.The IDF will lose its qualitative advantage over the poorly trained, poorly equipped Arab Forces.

eh, I fear the fate of any Arab state that thinks to attack an Israel that doesn't have to listen to the US when our president tells them to turn the other cheek (see Gulf War 1). I'd like to see exactly what the money we are giving Israel is being spent on.

Assassinations, and anti-rock-throwing-teen weaponry like tanks and helicopters. These high-tech weaponry is also extremely effective at fighting fanatics with bombs under their coats sneaking into pool halls. Well, not directly, but they do a very good job of blowing their neighbors' hovels up later.

Assassinations, and anti-rock-throwing-teen weaponry like tanks and helicopters. These high-tech weaponry is also extremely effective at fighting fanatics with bombs under their coats sneaking into pool halls. Well, not directly, but they do a very good job of blowing their neighbors' hovels up later.

I'm sure some of it goes to military equipment, but I'm doubting that all of it does. I could be wrong tho *shrugs*.

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Try nuclear warfare!

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Try nuclear warfare!

America's national motto-If it moves, Nuke it!

Hey LG, you'll like this one!

I was talking with some friends over a few beers and we came up with the perfect solution to the Israel/Palestinian conflict.

The Palestinians should cave into all Israels demands and allow themselves to be moved onto 'reservations'.

Then they should open Bingo Halls and Casino's on those reservations........

Assassinations, and anti-rock-throwing-teen weaponry like tanks and helicopters. These high-tech weaponry is also extremely effective at fighting fanatics with bombs under their coats sneaking into pool halls. Well, not directly, but they do a very good job of blowing their neighbors' hovels up later.

They are also investing in anti-artillery and ABM systems in case of Hezbollah-launched long range missle attacks, and are serving as a testbed and major contributor in US military technology advance. The ground-based laser defence systems, in particular, are seeing significant gains from Isreali cooperation, and will probably see deployment in Isreal first to avoid a repeat of the seige which caused Isreal to attack Egyptian airforce bases, effectively (, and unjustly,) putting blame on them for the Six-Day War, and forcing occupation of surrounding highlands where the artillery units that were shelling Isreali farms and cities were stationed.

...does that mean we can stop spending billions of dollars every year so Israel doesn't have to negotiate with it's neighbors?

That sounds like commie talk!
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Assassinations, and anti-rock-throwing-teen weaponry like tanks and helicopters. These high-tech weaponry is also extremely effective at fighting fanatics with bombs under their coats sneaking into pool halls. Well, not directly, but they do a very good job of blowing their neighbors' hovels up later.
Here's my translation of what you just said:
The money is used to assasinate innocent people and the teens who throw rocks at Israeli's are just nice people. Nothing should be done against the poor little things. These fanatics are blowing up innocents but Israel has no right to destroy the bombers house, even though there's nobody in the house because Israel warn them 24 hours in advance.

So lets start,
If these teens didn't throw rocks at Israeli tanks, which isn't such a smart thing to do in the first place, seeing as it would have no effect and wil ljust get you run down, then they wouldn't be killed. The assassinations which you make sound like innocents are against terrorist leaders like Rantisi and Ahmed Yassin. These fanatics blew up a pool hall, well done on remembering that attack, I don't know if you remember but 16 teenagers were killed in that attack. The occupants of the terrorists houses are given 24 hours to evacuate, if they choose not to, their problem.

we're at peace with most of our neighbours. You knew that right?
Jordan and Egypt are both friendly nations now, and Lebanon are Syrian controlled so basically our only enemy is Syria and all they're doing is arming and funding the terrorist groups. The main problem is the territories, where nobody wants peace yet we're to blame for war:rolleyes:
Maybe, but you forgot that iran hate us (and they had far range missles), the palastinians terrorist can bomb here(even without a countrey), syria and the Hizbula have now small planes without pilot, and even egypt and jordan aren't like us so much.
other arab states see us the small devil (after usa), and the islamic world, think as same (in some parts).
so you can't really think that the meadle east is safe, are you?

[QUOTE=Lunatic Goofballs]My purpose in this thread is not to analyzr Israel vs. Palestine. Or Israel vs. The Middle East.

Plenty of threads for that. My purpose for this thread is to analyze the fact that for decades, we have financed Israel in such a way that they don't have to negotiate at all. U.S. money didn't purchase peace, it rented time. QUOTE]
you can't think that their money could buy a peace. the money they gave to us can't invesgate at somthing who isn't buying american weapons (this is the deal that gave us the money).