NationStates Jolt Archive

Yaser Arafat is on life support. Apparently they're waiting to take him off until they find a place to bury him so he can be in the ground within 24 hours to comply with Muslim custom.

CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/04/arafat.health/index.html).com

Apparently, let's take bets on what he's dying of. I've ten bucks on poison! No, in all seriousness, the guy's pretty evil, and has done a lot to contribute to Middle East non-peace. Not that I wish death on him, but I can't sincerely mourn him should he actually die.

Not that I wish death on him, but I can't sincerely mourn him should he actually die.
That'll depend on who replaces him, won't it? A sad rule of human politics - there is always someone worse in the background, circling like a vulture. Oh well, I guess we'll see.

Hmm, well they've ruled out leukemia. I'm not a medical person, so I don't really know that much about blood disorders.

That'll depend on who replaces him, won't it? A sad rule of human politics - there is always someone worse in the background, circling like a vulture. Oh well, I guess we'll see.
That's exactly what I'm worried about. As bad as things are in Israel, they could be a hell of a lot worse.

That'll depend on who replaces him, won't it? A sad rule of human politics - there is always someone worse in the background, circling like a vulture. Oh well, I guess we'll see.

But that doesn't make him a better person if the guy that succeeds him is worse.

But that doesn't make him a better person if the guy that succeeds him is worse.
But it does make it a bad thing he's dying.

Maybe his replacement will be better though, or at least someone the rest of the world can actually work with effectively.

The two men who have assumed control at this point are both moderates who will probably go a long way towards bringing peace with Israel.

Bush will take the credit, though.

Apparently, let's take bets on what he's dying of. I've ten bucks on poison! No, in all seriousness, the guy's pretty evil, and has done a lot to contribute to Middle East non-peace. Not that I wish death on him, but I can't sincerely mourn him should he actually die.
Yes,my bet is a slow acting poison. It seems it happened awful fast over a few weeks from relatively healthy for his age to looking just awful when he landed in France.. I agree as well, the guy is evil. I hope the replacement is better.

CUSTOMER:
Here's one.
CART MASTER:
Ninepence.
DEAD PERSON:
I'm not dead!
CART MASTER:
What?
CUSTOMER:
Nothing. Here's your ninepence.
DEAD PERSON:
I'm not dead!
CART MASTER:
'Ere. He says he's not dead!
CUSTOMER:
Yes, he is.
DEAD PERSON:
I'm not!
CART MASTER:
He isn't?
CUSTOMER:
Well, he will be soon. He's very ill.
DEAD PERSON:
I'm getting better!
CUSTOMER:
No, you're not. You'll be stone dead in a moment.
CART MASTER:
Oh, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
DEAD PERSON:
I don't want to go on the cart!
CUSTOMER:
Oh, don't be such a baby.
CART MASTER:
I can't take him.
DEAD PERSON:
I feel fine!
CUSTOMER:
Well, do us a favour.
CART MASTER:
I can't.
CUSTOMER:
Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won't be long.

You don't get much better than Arafat. ANybody who capitulates too quickly to Israel will be dead in a year. ANybody who defies Israel too boldly will be dead in a year. Arafat kept the whole mess from collapsing for a very long time, and kept himself alive somehow in the process. I'm not going to suggest that he was a good man. There's far too much blood on his hands. But I don't think there's a politician anywhere in the world who could do what Arafat did for as long as he did.

Arafat was a terrorist.

As was Gerry Adams and the IRA

As was Nelson Mandela

I think that a lot of it depends on where you stand at the time.
One mans evil terrorist, is anothers freedom fighter.
:fluffle:

Arafat was a terrorist.

As was Gerry Adams and the IRA

As was Nelson Mandela

I think that a lot of it depends on where you stand at the time.
One mans evil terrorist, is anothers freedom fighter.
:fluffle:

Ariel Sharon is a war criminal, yet nobody ever talks about that. You won't get peace with Sharon in the picture.

Ariel Sharon is a war criminal, yet nobody ever talks about that. You won't get peace with Sharon in the picture.
whereas obviously with Arafat, all he ever thinks about is ways to make peace with Israel. :rolleyes:

Yasser Arafat is in a "reversible coma'' but not brain dead, his spokeswoman said Friday amid conflicting reports about the 75-year-old Palestinian leader's condition.

Following this announcement the White House, not wanting to feel left out, quickly confirmed that G W Bush was not brain dead.

My money...he already is dead. Note the first story issued today when a reporter asked Bush what his reaction was...the French hospital quickly called wire services to state that He had not died(lie I think) but had instead been moved to a facility more befitting his current state...after years of hearing diplomo-speak , this just sounds to me like the facility to take care of his current state is the morgue, his current state being death...maybe I am wrong, but you heard it here if not ;)

I don't really mind if he dies or stays in a permanent coma. Either way he'll have no power. I hope he's dead but either way he ain't coming back.

I'm hearing rumors that he has AIDS from gay sex with a body guard. At first, I was like, "Wtf? I thought this guy was a hardcore musalim," so I did some Scooby Doo style investigations. Through the power of the internet, I found a neato story that Romania bugged him in the 70s and made a recording of him pounding ham with three other guys. Ch-ch-ch-check it out:

http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/11/110104arafat.htm

I don't really mind if he dies or stays in a permanent coma. Either way he'll have no power. I hope he's dead but either way he ain't coming back.
You prefer Hamas in control of Palestine?

You prefer Hamas in control of Palestine?
Where's Palestine? I checked a map but couldn't find it.:rolleyes:

You prefer Hamas in control of Palestine?
I think it is roughly the same thing. I know if I were an Israeli, I would find it abhorrent that this man who orchestrated the murder of so many of my countrymen, going back to the murder of the athletes at the Munich Olympics, was the head of state of a neighboring country. It would be the equivalent of Hitler being reborn in Germany and elected to lead them, how would France, Russia, Poland, etc feel?

Yes,my bet is a slow acting poison. It seems it happened awful fast over a few weeks from relatively healthy for his age to looking just awful when he landed in France.. I agree as well, the guy is evil. I hope the replacement is better.

not neccasarily slow acting
the soviets did this too where they hid that if the leader was sick they would lie about it until he was in dire need of medical help

Where's Palestine? I checked a map but couldn't find it.:rolleyes:
It is just east of Israel, with a small part in the south-west.

I think it is roughly the same thing. I know if I were an Israeli, I would find it abhorrent that this man who orchestrated the murder of so many of my countrymen, going back to the murder of the athletes at the Munich Olympics, was the head of state of a neighboring country. It would be the equivalent of Hitler being reborn in Germany and elected to lead them, how would France, Russia, Poland, etc feel?
So having 2 arms cut is the same as having one arm cut?
With that kind of logic prevailing in the middle east, no wonder it didn't make any progress since more than 50 years

It is just east of Israel, with a small part in the south-west.
No, I only see the Gaza Strip. Not Palestine. Ah well, your map must be messed up.

so I did some Scooby Doo style investigations.

You split up from your friends and went to the kitchen?

Yaser Arafat is on life support. Apparently they're waiting to take him off until they find a place to bury him so he can be in the ground within 24 hours to comply with Muslim custom.
Thank God. It's about time that old fossil kicked the bucket. Arafat has been the one constant in the Palenstinian "struggle" and the main obstructionist to peace in Israel.

Ariel Sharon is a war criminal, yet nobody ever talks about that. You won't get peace with Sharon in the picture.
The one constant in the situation over there was Arafat. He was the main reason why peace was never seriously considered. The Israelis should have taken him out years ago.

You mean their not going to grind up his body fry it in buttery goodness and sell it to little Palestinian kids as a tasty snack?

Well, I'm afraid too that Arafat might leave an uncontrolled, tempered anarchy behind him, which won't allow us any way towards peace. On the other hand, Arafat was the main obstacle to peace. The second intifada was anything but a struggle for independence, because Israel was ready to give the palestinians their own independent country.

That is the reason for the anger in Israel towards the international community. Arafat was treated as legitimate national leader even though he murdered thousands of israelis. Only the in the second intifada Israel has refused to nagotiate with him, and the euro backup for Arafat looked like a betrayal in human values.

Ariel Sharon is a war criminal, yet nobody ever talks about that. You won't get peace with Sharon in the picture.
Ariel Sharon stood for trial and he wasn't found directly responsible for what was called "war-crimes". I do not believe repeating the same arguement makes it a valid one. Btw, here people constantly remind Sharon's behaviour in Lebanon. Even if he commited no crimes there, it's not like he's criticism-proof. And if Sharon would appear as an obstacle to peace, there's nothing to worry about, since he will stand to open elections in Israel. Unless someone think you won't get peace with any israeli in the picture...

Well, I'm afraid too that Arafat might leave an uncontrolled, tempered anarchy behind him, which won't allow us any way towards peace. On the other hand, Arafat was the main obstacle to peace. The second intifada was anything but a struggle for independence, because Israel was ready to give the palestinians their own independent country.

That is the reason for the anger in Israel towards the international community. Arafat was treated as legitimate national leader even though he murdered thousands of israelis. Only the in the second intifada Israel has refused to nagotiate with him, and the euro backup for Arafat looked like a betrayal in human values.


Ariel Sharon stood for trial and he wasn't found directly responsible for what was called "war-crimes". I do not believe repeating the same arguement makes it a valid one. Btw, here people constantly remind Sharon's behaviour in Lebanon. Even if he commited no crimes there, it's not like he's criticism-proof. And if Sharon would appear as an obstacle to peace, there's nothing to worry about, since he will stand to open elections in Israel. Unless someone think you won't get peace with any israeli in the picture...
First, I should say I like your name.
Second, Sharon(and by extension Israel)did what they did to defend themselves from people who wantonly murdered their fellow citizens for the simple act of being Israeli. And yes Sharon was found not guilty of war crimes, and even if it were so, for most of the international community to side with the ones murdering is nearly unforgivable. I take it you are Israeli by your use of the word"here". In my opinion between Israel, the US, and Russia,after the school incident there, we should join forces to rid the planet of a force that more often these days seems to be trying to rid it of us.
I do NOT mean Islam by the way, true Islam believes in peace, these terrorists do not, they profit from ongoing war,and just as in Iraq, they abuse even Islamic citizens and do everything they can to avoid there being a peace.