NationStates Jolt Archive


The Sixties: Good or Bad

Ogiek
05-11-2004, 05:32
Bill Clinton said that if you think the 1960s gave us more good than bad then you are probably a liberal, but if you think more bad than good came out of the decade then you are probably a conservative.

Do you think his assessment is accurate?
Colodia
05-11-2004, 05:33
yes, my parent's were born in the 60's. Thus starting the chain reaction for me, the Future World Dictator.
Chodolo
05-11-2004, 05:36
It's true socially. Social liberals appreciate the sexual revolution, birth control pill, legalization of abortion, etc. Social conservatives probably have low opinions of that. :p

However, there are plenty of socially liberal, but fiscally conservative Republicans like Swarzenegger, McCain, and Guiliani.

As well, there are socially conservative, but fiscally liberal Democrats like Lieberman.

Overall, though, the assessment is mostly accurate.
Faithfull-freedom
05-11-2004, 05:41
How about if you thought it had more bad than good in the 60's then you probably do not learn from your own mistakes. And if you think more good than bad came from it then you probably do not learn much from your mistakes. Fairly equal if ya ask me.
Parratoga
05-11-2004, 06:01
Hmmm I like 60's Rock 'n' Roll.
Jorania
05-11-2004, 06:06
there's a saying that goes: "If you remember the sixties, you weren't having enough fun." The sixxties were awesome
Ogiek
05-11-2004, 06:38
The Sixities also gave us civil rights movements that started with Blacks and then spread to Indians (AIM, Wounded Knee), Hispanics (Cesar Chavez), Women (Betty Friedan, NOW), and Gays (the Stonewall). Also, the environmental movement (Rachel Carson) got its start in the Sixties. Finally, a generation took to the streets to oppose, and end, a brutal, unjust, unwinable, and undeclared war in Vietnam.
Ogiek
05-11-2004, 07:21
I'm getting the distinct impression the majority of people here weren't alive in the 60s (or even the 70s).

Clinton's comment probably doesn't apply to them.
Ogiek
03-02-2005, 22:19
Bill Clinton said that if you think the 1960s gave us more good than bad then you are probably a liberal, but if you think more bad than good came out of the decade then you are probably a conservative.

Do you think his assessment is accurate?
New Genoa
03-02-2005, 22:23
the 60s gave us more pot than ever before.
12345543211
03-02-2005, 22:24
Liberal, I wrote good. While it was bad from Viet Nam and the start of Nixon, we had Kennedy, Lindon B Johnson, and the Beatles came in!
Markreich
03-02-2005, 22:26
Bill Clinton said that if you think the 1960s gave us more good than bad then you are probably a liberal, but if you think more bad than good came out of the decade then you are probably a conservative.

Do you think his assessment is accurate?

Given the 1968 Democratic convention, Kennedy getting us into & Johnson expanding the war in Viet Nam, and the Cuban Missile Crisis, I really have to question that.

LOTS of stuff, good and bad happened in the 60s. And I think that it was an equally good and bad time for both parties.
Sskiss
03-02-2005, 22:26
I was born in 62' and so saw the 60's from a child's point of view. I neither consider any decade to be "good" or "bad". I lived out in the "sticks" about 100km or so North of Montreal (in live in that city now) so I saw the life and times I grew up in pretty much the same as kids do now, I reckon.
Kwangistar
03-02-2005, 22:29
The best thing about the 60's is that it turned out to be such a mess that America has been going in the right direction ever since.
Industrial Experiment
03-02-2005, 22:30
Given the 1968 Democratic convention, Kennedy getting us into & Johnson expanding the war in Viet Nam, and the Cuban Missile Crisis, I really have to question that.

LOTS of stuff, good and bad happened in the 60s. And I think that it was an equally good and bad time for both parties.

How so? I mean...

LIBERAL =/= DEMOCRAT

CONSERVATIVE =/= REPUBLICAN

...whoops, sorry, that kinda just came out...
Lacadaemon II
03-02-2005, 22:31
Speaking of the sixties, I've figured out a way to save social security without altering that basic plan.

Check this out: just deny benefits to baby-boomers. Isn't that genius.

On the plus side, the baby boom generation - which by its own addmission is the most greedy, idle, self obsessed, useless generation in the history of the US - can finally get to contribute something.

It also goes some way to paying back the huge national debt they ran up when they during their time as the dominant demographic group.

Yay for me, I am a genius.
Pure Metal
03-02-2005, 22:31
Bill Clinton said that if you think the 1960s gave us more good than bad then you are probably a liberal, but if you think more bad than good came out of the decade then you are probably a conservative.

Do you think his assessment is accurate?
the 60s were awesome.
Lunatic Goofballs
03-02-2005, 22:33
I think Austin Powers said it best:

http://161.58.5.90/austin/pound.wav
The Island of Kokomo
03-02-2005, 22:41
I think the 60's are good. I wasn't alive then so I don't really know but some of the episodes of Happy Days took place in the 60's and Happy Days was an awsome show. Also I absoulutly love the music from the 60's and they made some fabulous musicals too.
Markreich
03-02-2005, 23:41
How so? I mean...

LIBERAL =/= DEMOCRAT

CONSERVATIVE =/= REPUBLICAN

...whoops, sorry, that kinda just came out...

There are few liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats out there. :)
Industrial Experiment
04-02-2005, 01:39
There are few liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats out there. :)

But there are plenty of liberals that aren't democrats and plenty of conservatives that aren't republicans.
Servus Dei
04-02-2005, 01:46
"The Sixties" were the most abominable era in human history.
Ashmoria
04-02-2005, 01:50
i was 10 in 1967

hell yeah the 60s were more good than bad!

whats the bad part besides all those crappy elvis movies?
Eichen
04-02-2005, 02:01
I don't really fit into the "liberal, conservative, or moderate" categories, so I didn't vote.
The sixties remind me of the Good, the Bad, and the Great Unwashed.
Although a lot of good came out of the sixties, an all-pervasive naivete has persisted ever since in the form of ineffectual "counterculture" activism.

In trying to subvert the "system" and undermine consumerism (for several decades), it's hillarious that they've only managed to exacerbate the situation. :p
Ogiek
04-02-2005, 02:04
"The Sixties" were the most abominable era in human history.
because...?
Servus Dei
04-02-2005, 02:06
because...?
Revolutions of every sort... sexual, religious, cultural.... simply an era that brought no good.
Dakini
04-02-2005, 02:06
yeah, go approaching to equal rights for women and oral contraceptives!

oh, and pot. you can't forget the pot. mmm.
Eichen
04-02-2005, 02:08
Revolutions of every sort... sexual, religious, cultural.... simply an era that brought no good.
Yeah, right. Like the American Revolution? :confused:

Myopic.
Servus Dei
04-02-2005, 02:09
Yeah, right. Like the American Revolution? :confused:

Myopic.
No, the 60s even blew away the American Revolution...
Eichen
04-02-2005, 02:11
No, the 60s even blew away the American Revolution...
I can feel the shockwaves from the credibility explosion from Florida d00d.
Servus Dei
04-02-2005, 02:13
I can feel the shockwaves from the credibility explosion from Florida d00d.
What "credibility explosion?" :rolleyes:
Eichen
04-02-2005, 02:16
What "credibility explosion?" :rolleyes:
Warmest Beer In the Fridge Award goes to...
Servus Dei
04-02-2005, 02:19
Warmest Beer In the Fridge Award goes to...
Utter foolishness from you...
Eichen
04-02-2005, 02:26
Utter foolishness from you...
You should be proud. In under thirty posts, you've earned a prestiged position alongside Defensor Fidei on my exlusive ignore list.
Red Sox Fanatics
04-02-2005, 02:27
God damn hippies. They say they wanted to change the world, but all they did was go around smoking pot and smelling bad.
Ogiek
04-02-2005, 02:29
God damn hippies. They said they wanted to change the world, but all they did was go around smoking pot and smelling bad.
...and ending a century of segregation and a war in Vietnam. That and starting the feminist revolution and the environmental movement.
Red Sox Fanatics
04-02-2005, 02:31
...and ending a century of segregation and a war in Vietnam. That and starting the feminist revolution and the environmental movement.

And now allowing us to enter into another Vietnam. Something they swore would never happen under their watch.
Neo-Anarchists
04-02-2005, 02:34
Revolutions of every sort... sexual, religious, cultural.... simply an era that brought no good.
Yeah, cause we all know, change doubleplusungood.
Eichen
04-02-2005, 02:37
Yeah, cause we all know, change doubleplusungood.
:p !