NationStates Jolt Archive

whats ur thoughts?

No, not yet. He'll bite the big one soon, though.

Castro and Arafat will commit suicide together to catch the space ship behind the comet!!!!!!!

he might be dead, they could just be waiting to give everyone the news until israel has a new leader who is fit to do the job.

he will die soon i'll give him a month at most.

I am glad the **** is dead that means a greater chance for peace in the middle east.

Not really another **** Sharon is still alive. I expect an equal or greater **** to replace both of them when they are gone.

I am glad the **** is dead that means a greater chance for peace in the middle east.

I don't understand you people who say Arafat is the one that doesn't want peace and a Palestinian state. It is Israel and it's war criminal, Sharon, that is keeping Palestine from being free and from having peace.

I dont think he's dead yet

I dont think he's dead yet

He is not. This has already been confirmed by French officials and doctors and the Palestinian government.

I don't understand you people who say Arafat is the one that doesn't want peace and a Palestinian state. It is Israel and it's war criminal, Sharon, that is keeping Palestine from being free and from having peace.
However, it is also Yasser Arafat that, in trying his best to keep control of the PA, does nothing to help any of his people, reform his corrupt, illiberal government, or even try to obstruct terrorism. In fact, as his Fatah movement's Al-aqsa martyrs brigade has launched attacks in Israel, I think he allows, and even supports terrorism. The Palestinians deserve better than this corrupt, fat old peice of shit.

However, it is also Yasser Arafat that, in trying his best to keep control of the PA, does nothing to help any of his people, reform his corrupt, illiberal government, or even try to obstruct terrorism. In fact, as his Fatah movement's Al-aqsa martyrs brigade has launched attacks in Israel, I think he allows, and even supports terrorism. The Palestinians deserve better than this corrupt, fat old peice of shit.

Yasser Arafat was democratically elected President of the Palestinian Authority and enjoys overwhelming support by the Palestinian people.

Ever government is corrupt. The PA is no different.

What is 'illiberal'?!

al-Aqsa Martyr's Brigade is a breakaway faction from Fatah. They are not part of Fatah.

The world would be better off without that war criminal leading Israel.

Yasser Arafat was democratically elected President of the Palestinian Authority and enjoys overwhelming support by the Palestinian people.
See below a couple of paragraphs.
Ever government is corrupt. The PA is no different.
The PA is a little moreso. It can be helped dramatically with an independent judiciary, and greater legislative freedom and checks on the other two branches. He seems to forget what Baron de Montesquieu proposed.
What is 'illiberal'?!
It means that the government stifles other institutions of a free society, such as a free market, media, and individual liberty. It usually also refers to a strong executive. While he may be democratically elected, it's always not the best to have. Hugo Chavez and Vladimir Putin are both democratically elected, but may, along with Arafat, be called "elected autocrats".
al-Aqsa Martyr's Brigade is a breakaway faction from Fatah. They are not part of Fatah.
You seem certain and objective about that fact. How do we know?
The world would be better off without that war criminal leading Israel.
While this is true, I have three things to say about this. One, the world is largely unaffected by the Israel/Palestinian conflict. Two, Sharon has mellowed a bit over the past year, and has become more of a realist. He's not as hostile as he once was, and I think that this is exciting. He deserves at least a little while longer to see if this continues. I don't know who else in Israel wants to leave the Gaza strip. And finally, and perhaps most important, Sharon is far from the only factor in the Intafada. It really started for other underlying reasons. And while Israel obviously doesn't try to make things better, neither does Arafat, unless that means absolute victory. This doesn't mean that powerful elements on both sides want to talk, and I support these elements to suceed Arafat. Unfortunatly, it can't happen if he doesn't die soon.

The PA is a little moreso. It can be helped dramatically with an independent judiciary, and greater legislative freedom and checks on the other two branches. He seems to forget what Baron de Montesquieu proposed.

The Palestinian Authority does not need to do any of this until it is freed from the oppression and occupation by Israel.

It means that the government stifles other institutions of a free society, such as a free market, media, and individual liberty. It usually also refers to a strong executive. While he may be democratically elected, it's always not the best to have. Hugo Chavez and Vladimir Putin are both democratically elected, but may, along with Arafat, be called "elected autocrats".

Once again, none of this matters until there is a Palestinian nation. Secondly, I have no problem with Hugo Chavez, he is a good guy. What's so good about a free market? It's not in anyway good.

While this is true, I have three things to say about this. One, the world is largely unaffected by the Israel/Palestinian conflict. Two, Sharon has mellowed a bit over the past year, and has become more of a realist. He's not as hostile as he once was, and I think that this is exciting. He deserves at least a little while longer to see if this continues. I don't know who else in Israel wants to leave the Gaza strip. And finally, and perhaps most important, Sharon is far from the only factor in the Intafada. It really started for other underlying reasons. And while Israel obviously doesn't try to make things better, neither does Arafat, unless that means absolute victory. This doesn't mean that powerful elements on both sides want to talk, and I support these elements to suceed Arafat. Unfortunatly, it can't happen if he doesn't die soon.

Sharon is supported by the leftist and the majority of the population of Israel for his wish to leave the Gaza Strip. The reason for this is that is simply is no longer useful to keep the Gaza Strip. It is not cost effective anymore. This is not "mellowing". Secondly, it wants to move the settlers from Gaza to the West Bank. That's just stealing more of Palestine. Thirdly, there can be only absolute victory. West Bank and the Gaza Strip need to be freed. Why won't Israel let the West Bank go?

You only want Arafat to die so that he can be replaced by some idiot that will give up mass territory to Israel. Simple.

The Palestinian Authority does not need to do any of this until it is freed from the oppression and occupation by Israel.



Once again, none of this matters until there is a Palestinian nation. Secondly, I have no problem with Hugo Chavez, he is a good guy. What's so good about a free market? It's not in anyway good.



Sharon is supported by the leftist and the majority of the population of Israel for his wish to leave the Gaza Strip. The reason for this is that is simply is no longer useful to keep the Gaza Strip. It is not cost effective anymore. This is not "mellowing". Secondly, it wants to move the settlers from Gaza to the West Bank. That's just stealing more of Palestine. Thirdly, there can be only absolute victory. West Bank and the Gaza Strip need to be freed. Why won't Israel let the West Bank go?

You only want Arafat to die so that he can be replaced by some idiot that will give up mass territory to Israel. Simple.
No. I want Arafat to die because he is bad for Palestine. Continued occupation would just mean more trouble from Israel, if you want that cynical of a view. However, unlike you, I do not support the idea of Jewish expulsion from Palestine, nor vice versa, as you accuse me of supporting. I want someone to create a dialogue with Israel, while peacefully building their nation. I don't want a leader waging constant proxy wars.
And yes, the PA can do a lot. I remember that some PA security officials in the territories wanted to clamp down on terrorists. They would've done it, but there was a high turnover rate in those offices. Sounds fishy to me.