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:sniper: :mp5: i would like to take this opportunity to congragulate Mr. George W. Bush on his re-election. :sniper: :mp5:

yay, i get to be the first idiot in this thread to be really patronising and say 'wrong forum n00b' \o/

Darn, you beat me to it.

This belongs in General, TaoTai.

I would like to also extend my congradulations to Mr. Bush.
At least we dont have a socialistic leader in power.
Besides whats wrong with the man. Just because he doesnt speak right.
- To Kerry- Thanks for being a real man and deciding you had no chance. Oh yeah now you and John Edwards can finally get your relationship out of the public eye (especially since Edwards wife has breast cancer.) Can u see them in the white house it would have been the strangest thing. A man president married to a man VP. LOL :fluffle:

Can u see them in the white house it would have been the strangest thing. A man president married to a man VP. LOL :fluffle:

Good one! :rolleyes:

I would like to also extend my congradulations to Mr. Bush.
At least we dont have a socialistic leader in power.
Besides whats wrong with the man. Just because he doesnt speak right.
- To Kerry- Thanks for being a real man and deciding you had no chance. Oh yeah now you and John Edwards can finally get your relationship out of the public eye (especially since Edwards wife has breast cancer.) Can u see them in the white house it would have been the strangest thing. A man president married to a man VP. LOL :fluffle:

:sniper: :mp5: i would like to take this opportunity to congragulate Mr. George W. Bush on his re-election. :sniper: :mp5:

Does anybody like you? Really...

lol, no good will come of that man's re-election.
america, prepare yourself for alienation, discrimination, further reduction of civil rights, more 'wars' and less jobs. :)

President George W Bush
Heck Hell.

Does anybody like you? Really...
Apparently a majority of the country....

OK, low blow, but it was funny, hey? :sniper:

I want to congratulate President Bush to his reelection.

May he lead America and the world into a better future.
The fight against terrorism is an historic necessity. More cooperation is needed in that. I think that since the expectations are low the chances are good for improved relations with old allies.
I sincerely hope for that.
And I do believe one thing: If America shows weakness in this decade the world will drift towards tragedy (because of radical islamism in the Middle East). That shouldn´t happend and I´m shure it won´t happen.

Greetings from Europe.

I want to congratulate President Bush to his reelection.

May he lead America and the world into a better future.
The fight against terrorism is an historic necessity. More cooperation is needed in that. I think that since the expectations are low the chances are good for improved relations with old allies.
I sincerely hope for that.
And I do believe one thing: If America shows weakness in this decade the world will drift towards tragedy (because of radical islamism in the Middle East). That shouldn´t happend and I´m shure it won´t happen.

Greetings from Europe.
at least somebody over there appreciates what bush is trying to do!

at least somebody over there appreciates what bush is trying to do!
The minority of today could be the majority of tomorrow.
In the 19 th century most countries in Europe were undemocratic. Up until 1989/90 half of Europe was still under dictatorships.
Things can change. It is important never to give up. Don´t give up on Europe. Work with it as far as possible.

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And I do believe one thing: If America shows weakness in this decade the world will drift towards tragedy (because of radical islamism in the Middle East). That shouldn´t happend and I´m shure it won´t happen.

Thank you for your kind words from Europe. I am an American who voted for Kerry but even I am getting sick of all the anti-american rhetoric posted by Europeans on here since 11/02.

However, what kind of statement is that quote up there? How exactly would America show weakness? I think it would take a drastic, drastic change for America to show weakness. Do you live in a nation where we have more or less than 20,000 troops?

The minority of today could be the majority of tomorrow.
In the 19 th century most countries in Europe were undemocratic. Up until 1989/90 half of Europe was still under dictatorships.
Things can change. It is important never to give up. Don´t give up on Europe. Work with it as far as possible.

If I remember right, it was those undemocratic nations who supported us, while the majority of the democratic ones didn't.

However, what kind of statement is that quote up there? How exactly would America show weakness? I think it would take a drastic, drastic change for America to show weakness. Do you live in a nation where we have more or less than 20,000 troops?
Quiz for you: currently around 72000 - reduction planned down to around 36000. What country is that?
And how much does this country contribute according to the stationing treaty?

lol, no good will come of that man's re-election.
america, prepare yourself for alienation, discrimination, further reduction of civil rights, more 'wars' and less jobs. :)
I'm discriminated against during job interviews because I'm a white, heterosexual, Christian male and hence I don't meet any of the necesary hiring quotas for Affirmative Action. I've lost none of my civil rights under President GW Bush. Four more years of this is far better than the alternative.

I know Englishmen, Poles, Aussies and New Zealanders who support our Administration. They also include members of the next generation, so the future, at least overseas, looks brighter.

George W. Bush harms the environment (but then again, I suppose that having New York flooded some years from now is acceptable in the pursuit of money), lied about Iraq having ties to Islamic Fundamentalists (does anyone believe that here? I'd like to know if anyone's fooled by him), cannot talk English very well at all, and supports executing in large amounts - a VERY Unchristian thing and not exactly pro-Life at all!

He has the right views on family values. Everything else he messes up. From England.

Oh yeah, and, I forgot - he also widens the gaps between rich and poor. Not very Christian either!.

Quiz for you: currently around 72000 - reduction planned down to around 36000. What country is that?
And how much does this country contribute according to the stationing treaty?

Without looking it up, I would guess Germany. And I don't even know what you mean by stationing treaty.

George W. Bush harms the environment (but then again, I suppose that having New York flooded some years from now is acceptable in the pursuit of money), lied about Iraq having ties to Islamic Fundamentalists (does anyone believe that here? I'd like to know if anyone's fooled by him), cannot talk English very well at all, and supports executing in large amounts - a VERY Unchristian thing and not exactly pro-Life at all!

He has the right views on family values. Everything else he messes up. From England.

Oh yeah, and, I forgot - he also widens the gaps between rich and poor. Not very Christian either!.
You put way way too much stock in a movie, my friend. It aint gonna happen like that, not even close.

I'm discriminated against during job interviews because I'm a white, heterosexual, Christian male and hence I don't meet any of the necesary hiring quotas for Affirmative Action. I've lost none of my civil rights under President GW Bush. Four more years of this is far better than the alternative.

I know Englishmen, Poles, Aussies and New Zealanders who support our Administration. They also include members of the next generation, so the future, at least overseas, looks brighter.

No, you are discriminated against during the job search. I am not for affirmative action, but I will tell you that it has nothing to do with you being heterosexual or christian. Let me also point out that there is no one willing to take rights away from white hetero christian males. And actually the Patriot Act has suspended some of your rights.

Commies! Bastards! :mp5:

You put way way too much stock in a movie, my friend. It aint gonna happen like that, not even close.

I have not e'er seen any films on Bush. Neither have I seen any Moore docus. I base my conclusions on respectable news'paper evidence, the laws he passes. Is anybody denying that he doesn't do anything good for the environment, or that he executes people? Iraq, BTW, didn't have links to islamic terrorists: Hussein was secular.

Without looking it up, I would guess Germany. And I don't even know what you mean by stationing treaty.
That is right. And to the second point: In any country which is governed according to the principals of rule of law (like the US or today Germany) the government needs a legitimation for its actions. A legitimation which is part of a legitimacy chain to the people. Not necessarily directly, but in some way (directly or indirectly) it must be a legitimated by the people. For example: laws are passed by congress. Not directly by the people but through elected representatives - chain of legitimacy.
The same is of course the case for the US presence in many parts of the world.
From the occupying status in 1945 (under which the occupying powers took over the administration) to the foundation of the Federal Republic in 1949 to the stationing treaty (in 1951 or 1952) to the Nato membership of Germany in 1955.
The treaty gives a legal basis for the US presence in the Federal Republic. Aside of certain rights (regarding of Germany as a whole and Berlin) which existed for the victory powers up until 1990.
With the two + four-treaty (two german states with US, USSR, Britain and France) those rights have seized to exist.
Russia (till 1994) as well as French and British troops left the Federal Republic as a result of that.
The Federal Republic however renewed the stationing pact with the United States.
The stationing treaty (which existed since the 1950s with the US, France and Britain) regulated the status of the troops and the contributions the Federal Republic had and has to give for their presence.
Today that amounts to about 1 billion per year. Not much actually. The gulf war 1991 was more costly for the Federal Republic (15 billion)- even without active participation.
I assume that a simular solution needs to be found today in order to reimprove the relationship with the United States, which is very important of course.

at least somebody over there appreciates what bush is trying to do!

Trying to do? Do you mean making terrorist in Irak? There weren't any terrorists there before he send hes own people getting killed over there.

or maybe you mean acting against the UN and invading a country and deeling with is internal affairs, something that the UN members aren't supposed to do.

BTW, 9/11 where only 3000 deaths. Let's see. Rwanda 50 000. What did the US do? Nothing

I have not e'er seen any films on Bush. Neither have I seen any Moore docus. I base my conclusions on respectable news'paper evidence, the laws he passes. Is anybody denying that he doesn't do anything good for the environment, or that he executes people? Iraq, BTW, didn't have links to islamic terrorists: Hussein was secular.
I wasn't talking about Moore, I was talking about Day After Tomorrow. Your reference to flooding I assumed came from that movie especially since you said it would happen "some years from now".

Not even close to what would happen, nor when.

I wasn't talking about Moore, I was talking about Day After Tomorrow. Your reference to flooding I assumed came from that movie especially since you said it would happen "some years from now".

Not even close to what would happen, nor when.
I'm sure Noah's contemporaries said the same thing, dismissed it as Green propoganda, until OH SHIT the waters came flooding in.

We're due for a flood anyhow.

God can certainly see this is as good a time as any.