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My Grievance with the 2004 US Election

Leonard Nimoy
05-11-2004, 01:07
There's been alot of strong opinions posted on this board concerning the outcome of this election. That really doesn't surprise me, and it's not a bad thing. Many people, like me, are disappointed. But I believe that I'm disappointed for reasons other than those expressed here.

This election was largely symbolic for me. I'm not old enough to vote; I turn 18 in March. All that left me with was a feeling of complete ineffectivenes concerning the outcome. I mean, I could debate with my 18 year-old peers as heatedly as I wanted, but it wouldn't change their minds. Theoretically, I'm not even important in this election. I can't vote.

The symbolism in this election may have been something purely imagined by me. I am a liberal. I tend to decide issues on my own, rather than immediately taking liberal stances upon them, but my sentiments have always leaned to the right. This obviously put me at odds with President Bush. Kerry, a liberal, seemed a beacon of hope to me. Sure, his stances may have been vague, but he wasn't Bush. That was a sentiment all liberals seemed to share.

In my mind, this election was not just Bush vs. Kerry, but also the Conservative vs. the Liberal. Gay rights against family values. I so badly wanted the Liberal mindset to win out. And, in my youthful naivete, I believed that the rest of America wanted the Liberals to triumph as much as I did.

Wednesday morning, I found that this was not the case.

As I said, I am disappointed by the results. But I don't necessarily believe that, just because Bush is still president, the world will suddenly end. Even I can see that that is illogical, and melodramatic. At the same time, I don't believe that all problems would have been solved by Kerry entering the White House. That, too, is illogical. To me, the results say that America is more Conservative than Liberal. That's the source of my disappointment.

I write this not out of bitterness. This country was built upon the principle of majority rule, and the majority has spoken. I don't believe that Bush cheated. But what the results make me want to do is leave. Not because the United States of America is a terrible place, but because it simply isn't for me. I know I can't do a thing right now. I'm seventeen, still young and stupid. I've got four years of getting drunk and waxing philosophic in college ahead of me. But maybe, after that's all done with, I can go somewhere else.

I'm thinking Ireland. Hazah for alcoholism.

Long-winded and dramatic? Absolutely. Flame away.
BastardSword
05-11-2004, 01:11
There's been alot of strong opinions posted on this board concerning the outcome of this election. That really doesn't surprise me, and it's not a bad thing. Many people, like me, are disappointed. But I believe that I'm disappointed for reasons other than those expressed here.

This election was largely symbolic for me. I'm not old enough to vote; I turn 18 in March. All that left me with was a feeling of complete ineffectivenes concerning the outcome. I mean, I could debate with my 18 year-old peers as heatedly as I wanted, but it wouldn't change their minds. Theoretically, I'm not even important in this election. I can't vote.

The symbolism in this election may have been something purely imagined by me. I am a liberal. I tend to decide issues on my own, rather than immediately taking liberal stances upon them, but my sentiments have always leaned to the right. This obviously put me at odds with President Bush. Kerry, a liberal, seemed a beacon of hope to me. Sure, his stances may have been vague, but he wasn't Bush. That was a sentiment all liberals seemed to share.

In my mind, this election was not just Bush vs. Kerry, but also the Conservative vs. the Liberal. Gay rights against family values. I so badly wanted the Liberal mindset to win out. And, in my youthful naivete, I believed that the rest of America wanted the Liberals to triumph as much as I did.

Wednesday morning, I found that this was not the case.

As I said, I am disappointed by the results. But I don't necessarily believe that, just because Bush is still president, the world will suddenly end. Even I can see that that is illogical, and melodramatic. At the same time, I don't believe that all problems would have been solved by Kerry entering the White House. That, too, is illogical. To me, the results say that America is more Conservative than Liberal. That's the source of my disappointment.

I write this not out of bitterness. This country was built upon the principle of majority rule, and the majority has spoken. I don't believe that Bush cheated. But what the results make me want to do is leave. Not because the United States of America is a terrible place, but because it simply isn't for me. I know I can't do a thing right now. I'm seventeen, still young and stupid. I've got four years of getting drunk and waxing philosophic in college ahead of me. But maybe, after that's all done with, I can go somewhere else.

I'm thinking Ireland. Hazah for alcoholism.

Long-winded and dramatic? Absolutely. Flame away.

Dude don't leave. If you leave there will be less democrats and thus more power for republicans. If you leave the terrorists (loosely defined as republicans during campaign trial) will win. There terror worked and scared the public to vote out with head and not heart.

So dude we need you. Fight for your country stay and be ready for the next election when Hillary wins. :)
Jamunga
05-11-2004, 01:26
There terror worked and scared the public to vote out with head and not heart.

So you're calling republicans terrorists, and admitting that only an overly emotional idiot would vote for Kerry?
Leonard Nimoy
05-11-2004, 01:35
Fight for your country stay and be ready for the next election when Hillary wins. :)


Hate to say it, but I'm no fan of Hillary. Something about her just oozes bitch to me. like that Obama guy, but he doesn't seem to be a viable option until at least 2012.
BastardSword
05-11-2004, 01:36
So you're calling republicans terrorists, and admitting that only an overly emotional idiot would vote for Kerry?

No not exacty lol
BUt terrorist are those who use fear and Bush's republican team used fear. Thus by definition there would be a link.

But to use your heart does not make one a idiot. Every mother in the would would be a idiot if you were right. But you are not.
To use your heart is to let your heart be the most important object.

The brain uses fear and adrenaline to counter stressors. Thus the brain was favored by those who followed the fear.

Not everyone who voted with their brain was out of fear but those that did I was taliing about.
Jamunga
05-11-2004, 02:05
No not exacty lol
BUt terrorist are those who use fear and Bush's republican team used fear. Thus by definition there would be a link.

But to use your heart does not make one a idiot. Every mother in the would would be a idiot if you were right. But you are not.
To use your heart is to let your heart be the most important object.

The brain uses fear and adrenaline to counter stressors. Thus the brain was favored by those who followed the fear.

Not everyone who voted with their brain was out of fear but those that did I was taliing about.

Obviously I was exaggerating for humorous purposes, but it is unfair to call Bush's administration terrorists, as their fear tactics were MINSCULE compared to the dems'.

I don't disagree with using your heart AT ALL, but logical and critical thought is also needed.
Leonard Nimoy
05-11-2004, 17:16
Obviously I was exaggerating for humorous purposes, but it is unfair to call Bush's administration terrorists, as their fear tactics were MINSCULE compared to the dems'.

I don't disagree with using your heart AT ALL, but logical and critical thought is also needed.

I wouldn't call Republican tactics miniscule compared to Democrats - after all, didn't Cheney predict an outright attack were Kerry elected?

Both campaigns were guilty of such low tactics. This election sucked in general.