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Barack Obama - Interesting,
I went to one of his rallys when I was in chiagco, this guy is truely incredible.
I'm to lazy to post my full opinion on him.
But. This guy is truely incredible, and a think he will win the 08 election if he runs, I honestly dont think anyone could beat him.

Yeah, he's looking like the future of politics.

Barack Obama - Interesting,
I went to one of his rallys when I was in chiagco, this guy is truely incredible.
I'm to lazy to post my full opinion on him.
But. This guy is truely incredible, and a think he will win the 08 election if he runs, I honestly dont think anyone could beat him.
2012 because Hillary is in 2008 right?

But he does sound very intelligent and charismatic. Like a black Clinton (no jokes about clinton being black lol) he is I think.
That was why clinton won he was charismatic and intelligent.

Kerry had the intelligence but lacked a little of Clinton's charisma.

That's why I made this:
Where else are all the "special" people going to hang out?

Wait, that's not right.
One sec.

Here we go.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/Foxxinnia/obamanet.gif

That's why I made this:
Where else are all the "special" people going to hang out?

Wait, that's not right.
One sec.

Here we go.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/Foxxinnia/obamanet.gif
Unless Hillary's a guy, you're gonna have to change that. Presidents who've served twice can't run for vice president.

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As for the above link, Do you think Kerry would have won if Cilnton was the VP candidate instead of Edwards?

I'd suspect that there are people who are perfectly capable of beating Barak Obama. For example, before the crazy sex club charges against Ryan the Senate race was insanely close. Keyes was a carpetbagger worse than any other. No self capable candidate could lose to a carpetbagger like Keyes.

So many Democrats view Barak Obama as invincible. That no one can beat him. Well, I can name people who can beat Obama. Let's start with one of the nations most popular politicians and favorite Republicans: John McCain. A bipartisan deluxe, McCain is charismatic and popular. He has insanely high approval ratings.

Let's now move to "America's Mayor", Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani is still renowned for how he united the people of NYC after September 11th. How he stood as a symbol of courage and grace under pressure. He could possibly be the first Republican to win New York if he were to run.

And let's not forget that Obama will be a freshman Senator. Very little experience. If the Reps were to run McCain against Obama, well, can you see Reagan's age joke again, can you not?

Unless Hillary's a guy, you're gonna have to change that. Presidents who've served twice can't run for vice president.

...you're missing the joke....

I can see Obama running in 2012. He may not be able to beat the Republican candidate, who may just be Jeb Bush.
Sad thing, a Bush Dynasty.

I'd suspect that there are people who are perfectly capable of beating Barak Obama. For example, before the crazy sex club charges against Ryan the Senate race was insanely close. Keyes was a carpetbagger worse than any other. No self capable candidate could lose to a carpetbagger like Keyes.

So many Democrats view Barak Obama as invincible. That no one can beat him. Well, I can name people who can beat Obama. Let's start with one of the nations most popular politicians and favorite Republicans: John McCain. A bipartisan deluxe, McCain is charismatic and popular. He has insanely high approval ratings.

Let's now move to "America's Mayor", Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani is still renowned for how he united the people of NYC after September 11th. How he stood as a symbol of courage and grace under pressure. He could possibly be the first Republican to win New York if he were to run.

And let's not forget that Obama will be a freshman Senator. Very little experience. If the Reps were to run McCain against Obama, well, can you see Reagan's age joke again, can you not?

I think the reason Democrats get so excited about Obama is that he looks to be the future of the party, and he's very charismatic. It's promising for them.

Barack Obama - Interesting,
I went to one of his rallys when I was in chiagco, this guy is truely incredible.
I'm to lazy to post my full opinion on him.
But. This guy is truely incredible, and a think he will win the 08 election if he runs, I honestly dont think anyone could beat him.

I've seen one of his speeches to and have been following what he does. He does seem like a great diplomat. I would certainly rather him be the democratic candidate than Hilary Clinton.

Mark my words, he will be the first black president. Or at least the first black man to have some chance at winning the presidency.

I think the reason Democrats get so excited about Obama is that he looks to be the future of the party, and he's very charismatic. It's promising for them.


True. To me, he seems like the only hope for the democratic party. Everyone else seems to have lost touch with what's important. Barack Obama is a guy people can trust.

I'd suspect that there are people who are perfectly capable of beating Barak Obama. For example, before the crazy sex club charges against Ryan the Senate race was insanely close. Keyes was a carpetbagger worse than any other. No self capable candidate could lose to a carpetbagger like Keyes.

So many Democrats view Barak Obama as invincible. That no one can beat him. Well, I can name people who can beat Obama. Let's start with one of the nations most popular politicians and favorite Republicans: John McCain. A bipartisan deluxe, McCain is charismatic and popular. He has insanely high approval ratings.

Let's now move to "America's Mayor", Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani is still renowned for how he united the people of NYC after September 11th. How he stood as a symbol of courage and grace under pressure. He could possibly be the first Republican to win New York if he were to run.

And let's not forget that Obama will be a freshman Senator. Very little experience. If the Reps were to run McCain against Obama, well, can you see Reagan's age joke again, can you not?

Actually at first I thought Mccain was good but he is now just a panderer.
He only went along with Bush to keep people in his party liking him.

He could have gone indepenent but didn't think he would make it.

He is weak. He is a user. And Bush Jr already defeated him before with smear ads. Couldn't they just show the old smear ads that they used on him?

undefinedundefinedwell I like Bush and I think that if Kerry would have won we would all have died! :fluffle:

AHH! Stop stealing my bandwidth!

I voted for Allan Keyes. He is pretty right wing but I like that he sticks to his principles and he is a great speaker. Obama is way to liberal.

If the Democrats can get a nominee for '08 to beat the Republicans, which I doubt they will, it will be either John Edwards, Hillary Clinton or a few others but not Barack Obama. As for the Republicans I see John McCain, Rudy Guiliani, or The Governator(if they change the constitution to allow it). What about Jeb Bush? As governor of Florida has done a very good job and has becone high profile. Wouldn't that be great!

Actually at first I thought Mccain was good but he is now just a panderer.
He only went along with Bush to keep people in his party liking him.

He could have gone indepenent but didn't think he would make it.

He is weak. He is a user. And Bush Jr already defeated him before with smear ads. Couldn't they just show the old smear ads that they used on him?

And to those in the middle (and even many politcally astute individuals on the left) he is one of the most (if not the most) popular politicians in the country.

He didn't go independent for more than just that, I'd suspect he believes he is number one in line for the Republican Nomination in '08, where he'll win (I suspect), and therefore automatically in '12.

I voted for Allan Keyes. He is pretty right wing but I like that he sticks to his principles and he is a great speaker. Obama is way to liberal.

If the Democrats can get a nominee for '08 to beat the Republicans, which I doubt they will, it will be either John Edwards, Hillary Clinton or a few others but not Barack Obama. As for the Republicans I see John McCain, Rudy Guiliani, or The Governator(if they change the constitution to allow it). What about Jeb Bush? As governor of Florida has done a very good job and has becone high profile. Wouldn't that be great!

The problem with running Jeb anytime soon is that he is a Bush. Very few American's will vote for another Bush, just out of strangeness of having so many in such a short time period. He is popular in Florida, and would win that state hands down, but, it just isn't time for Jeb.

I voted for Allan Keyes. He is pretty right wing but I like that he sticks to his principles and he is a great speaker. Obama is way to liberal.

If the Democrats can get a nominee for '08 to beat the Republicans, which I doubt they will, it will be either John Edwards, Hillary Clinton or a few others but not Barack Obama. As for the Republicans I see John McCain, Rudy Guiliani, or The Governator(if they change the constitution to allow it). What about Jeb Bush? As governor of Florida has done a very good job and has becone high profile. Wouldn't that be great!
Jeb wouldn't get the votes because he is a Bush, and America has a serious tyrant complex. No way people vote for him. The same thing holds true with Hillary. Bush jr was very lucky to get elected, as it were many people had a lot of doubts about how good of an idea it was to let him run in the first place.

However, back to the point: Keyes wouldn't have a chance. The main point is that Obama has the power to grab: the minority vote, and the moderate vote. That is a lethal combination. He's charismatic, he's young, and he's brilliant. Honestly, if Kerry is still in the Senate in 08'(likely) I wouldn't be over-surprised to see an Obama/Kerry ticket? Why? Name recognition and experience in the VP spot. Kerry as a President? Not the greatest idea. Kerry as VP? Brilliant. He's got all the tools, all the experience, and if he doesn't get the big light on him, he's extremely capable.


The one person nobody has mentioned is Gore. Perhaps a Gore/Obama ticket might occur? Ease the young guy in, and keep his charisma in the election?

Jeb wouldn't get the votes because he is a Bush, and America has a serious tyrant complex. No way people vote for him. The same thing holds true with Hillary. Bush jr was very lucky to get elected, as it were many people had a lot of doubts about how good of an idea it was to let him run in the first place.

However, back to the point: Keyes wouldn't have a chance. The main point is that Obama has the power to grab: the minority vote, and the moderate vote. That is a lethal combination. He's charismatic, he's young, and he's brilliant. Honestly, if Kerry is still in the Senate in 08'(likely) I wouldn't be over-surprised to see an Obama/Kerry ticket? Why? Name recognition and experience in the VP spot. Kerry as a President? Not the greatest idea. Kerry as VP? Brilliant. He's got all the tools, all the experience, and if he doesn't get the big light on him, he's extremely capable.


The one person nobody has mentioned is Gore. Perhaps a Gore/Obama ticket might occur? Ease the young guy in, and keep his charisma in the election?

Obama/Dean ticket? Dean might be seen as mad by the media but vice presidents are attack dogs.

Jeb wouldn't get the votes because he is a Bush, and America has a serious tyrant complex. No way people vote for him. The same thing holds true with Hillary. Bush jr was very lucky to get elected, as it were many people had a lot of doubts about how good of an idea it was to let him run in the first place.

However, back to the point: Keyes wouldn't have a chance. The main point is that Obama has the power to grab: the minority vote, and the moderate vote. That is a lethal combination. He's charismatic, he's young, and he's brilliant. Honestly, if Kerry is still in the Senate in 08'(likely) I wouldn't be over-surprised to see an Obama/Kerry ticket? Why? Name recognition and experience in the VP spot. Kerry as a President? Not the greatest idea. Kerry as VP? Brilliant. He's got all the tools, all the experience, and if he doesn't get the big light on him, he's extremely capable.


The one person nobody has mentioned is Gore. Perhaps a Gore/Obama ticket might occur? Ease the young guy in, and keep his charisma in the election?

Even though I think Obama is the perfect candidate, I dont think an Obama/Kerry ticket would work. They differ waaaaay too much with their political views, even though both are for the same party. An Obama/Gore ticket wouldnt happen. Gore has blatantly stated that he will not run...ever. I assume that stands for VP as well as Pres.

My money's on Obama as the VP of the ticket. I don't know who'll be president, but I suspect that nominating Obama will be seen as too "risky."

Obama/Dean ticket? Dean might be seen as mad by the media but vice presidents are attack dogs.

A good idea, but I dont think it would happen. Obama would probably pick someone from the northeast. =

My money's on Obama as the VP of the ticket. I don't know who'll be president, but I suspect that nominating Obama will be seen as too "risky."

Why, because he's black? If any black man has a chance of winning the presidency, it's him.

I would LOVE to see an Obama ticket in '08 or '12. Remeber after the Nixon era, Jimmy Carter was an inexperienced person, he wasn't a Washington insider and he successfully ran for President even if it was just one term. I think that what is going to attract people to Obama. Hes young, not a washington insider and hes a fresh face instead of seeing "dead white guys" all the time.

Jeb wouldn't get the votes because he is a Bush, and America has a serious tyrant complex. No way people vote for him. The same thing holds true with Hillary. Bush jr was very lucky to get elected, as it were many people had a lot of doubts about how good of an idea it was to let him run in the first place.

However, back to the point: Keyes wouldn't have a chance. The main point is that Obama has the power to grab: the minority vote, and the moderate vote. That is a lethal combination. He's charismatic, he's young, and he's brilliant. Honestly, if Kerry is still in the Senate in 08'(likely) I wouldn't be over-surprised to see an Obama/Kerry ticket? Why? Name recognition and experience in the VP spot. Kerry as a President? Not the greatest idea. Kerry as VP? Brilliant. He's got all the tools, all the experience, and if he doesn't get the big light on him, he's extremely capable.


The one person nobody has mentioned is Gore. Perhaps a Gore/Obama ticket might occur? Ease the young guy in, and keep his charisma in the election?

I agree with the Kerry as VP point. Kerry doesn't strike me as a very presidential person, but I could completely see him as a VP, doing all the political wrangling and such that the VP gets saddled with, while a more publicly competent person is the face man for the show.

I can't believe this is the first thread here I have seen about Obama - I am seeing his name everywhere else all over the interent! I haven't done as much reading-up on him as I'd like (yet), but so far I think he shows a lot of promise. I don't know if I'd get my hopes up for the '08 election, with him being so young and new, but definitely for 2012!

If the Democrats can get a nominee for '08 to beat the Republicans, which I doubt they will, it will be either John Edwards, Hillary Clinton or a few others but not Barack Obama.

John Edwards doesn't have nearly the experienced required to win a presidential election, or even a primary. He couldn't even help the Democrats carry his own state this election.

Why, because he's black? If any black man has a chance of winning the presidency, it's him.
Listen people I love Obama. I would eagerly be his boy love slave if only he were elected president and tend to his every desire and whim and I assure you I am straight. But the reason the Dems lost this election and probably the next 3 or 4 elections is because they can't convince freaking Southerners to vote for him. Not one single state below the mason dixon line voted for Kerry! Back in the early 90s the ex KKK leader david duke almost won a senate seat in Louisianna. If a white Southerner like Gore couldn't win in the south, including his own state of Tennessee why do you think a black northener like obama could win? Like it or not the dems need to find a southern bible thumping christian to run if they ever want to win. Obama is million times better then hillary though, anyone who thinks she could win is totallly insane.