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So Bush was elected and did something even Bill Clinton could not do. He received over 50% of the vote! PLUS he received more votes than any other candidate ever. So what happened here?

The debates had no affect.....

Where were the rampant numbers of minorities being denied their vote? Jesse Jackson was here in Florida stating that we should never let what happened in 2000 happen again!!! The ACLU had closed circuit TV cameras at many polling places just looking for problems.

I am convinced that Kerry would have been an unmitigated disaster for the US. He was certainly no leader. That our European and Canadian friends, with their "socialized" view of the world cannot figure out WHY we would vote for Bush is not surprising. They really have no understanding of the US or what makes us think. Europe is a real mess economically AND politically, why would we want to be in such a weakened state given the dangers out there. Canada? They are on a downward spiral and cannot see it coming.

To end this post....and probably my posting on here altogether.....

Michael Moore may have had a stroke by now. I certainly hope his fat ass died in agony with the last thing his mind registering was the final results. I would love to think he is sitting in hell with the knowledge that his efforts were for nothing. For those of you who actually believed what he was spoon feeding you.....you are idiots.

The US and the world will be just fine. Bush's re-election does NOT portend bad things to come, except to certain middle eastern groups. Now we will have the defeated Democrats scurrying around trying to block almost everything Bush wants to do, but we have seen them for what they are and they will not soon forget the lesson they were taught on Nov. 2nd. Even Tom Daschle is gone. Edwards? I guess he will go back to sueing Dr's. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

Dan Rather was having a rough night covering the returns. He was VERY slow in calling states for Bush compared to the other pundits. I thought he was going to cry. He too will be gone soon, having ruined his reputation by being so partisan.

Oh, and for those of you who are so "ashamed" for being American now, well, we don't have closed borders. You are free to leave whenever you please. May Sean Penn and the Hollywood set join you. They are all idiots too.

I would have loved to have seen Badnarik win, but Kerry was too much of a risk for me to NOT vote for Bush. Anyone who does not see that Kerry was the WORST possible option is a moron.

Wow is right.

You are still tearing down Kerry, Europe, Canada, and the rest of the world who disagrees with you, and your side won. Talk about a sore loser.

Remember, Kerry got very nearly 50% of the vote also, so don't proclaim to be sure of what America wants or how it thinks. I think America is strong because it has millions of different voices, all of whom want different things, and think differently. We are one nation by flag and by borders and by the common good, not by thought, it would be good for both you and our president to remember that.

Ignoring most of that stuff, you do know that Edwards is still a senator, right? He doesn't have to "go back to sueing(sic) Dr's."

Wow is right.

You are still tearing down Kerry, Europe, Canada, and the rest of the world who disagrees with you, and your side won. Talk about a sore loser.

Remember, Kerry got very nearly 50% of the vote also, so don't proclaim to be sure of what America wants or how it thinks. I think America is strong because it has millions of different voices, all of whom want different things, and think differently. We are one nation by flag and by borders and by the common good, not by thought, it would be good for both you and our president to remember that.

Hear, hear. Memory is a precous commodity. Remember...!

Woa...

OKAY. Seriously. All Americans with a brain, please, PLEASE come to Europe, Canada, Mexico, anywhere. Save yourselves lads!

Ignoring most of that stuff, you do know that Edwards is still a senator, right? He doesn't have to "go back to sueing(sic) Dr's."

I thought someone else took his spot. Kerry is still a senator...but I thought Edwards' seat was up for re-election and a Republican took his spot over a different democrat.

Ignoring most of that stuff, you do know that Edwards is still a senator, right? He doesn't have to "go back to sueing(sic) Dr's."
A lame-duck is what he meant, I think.

Ignoring most of that stuff, you do know that Edwards is still a senator, right? He doesn't have to "go back to sueing(sic) Dr's."

Actually he is not...he vacated his seat to run for VP. Edwards will vacate the building at the end of his term.

Actually he is not...he vacated his seat to run for VP. Edwards will vacate the building at the end of his term.

He did? Hmm, that seems pretty short-sighted to me. Kerry didn't do the same, did he?

Ignoring most of that stuff, you do know that Edwards is still a senator, right? He doesn't have to "go back to sueing(sic) Dr's."


Thought he gave up his seat

Pretty sure

He did? Hmm, that seems pretty short-sighted to me. Kerry didn't do the same, did he?

No, Kerry hedged his bet. He has 2 more years. Edwards would not have been reelected anyway. He was finished after one term.

He did? Hmm, that seems pretty short-sighted to me. Kerry didn't do the same, did he?


nope (though some say he should have) it is tough and a big demand on time
I can understand why edwards did ... most do

No, Kerry hedged his bet. He has 2 more years. Edwards would not have been reelected anyway. He was finished after one term.


damn u have been beeting me to the punch :-P

Thought he gave up his seat

Pretty sure

Yeah, well I guess I was going on the assumption that I wouldn't be so arrogant as to assume victory like that, so neither did he. Oh well. Not like I care who is the senator of North Carolina. But did Kerry do the same? Because that means I'll have to elect a new senator.

Yeah, well I guess I was going on the assumption that I wouldn't be so arrogant as to assume victory like that, so neither did he. Oh well. Not like I care who is the senator of South Carolina. But did Kerry do the same? Because that means I'll have to elect a new senator.

Edwards was a Senator from North Carolina. Kerry did not do the same.

Edwards was a Senator from North Carolina. Kerry did not do the same.

North Carolina, sorry.

No, Kerry hedged his bet. He has 2 more years. Edwards would not have been reelected anyway. He was finished after one term.
Luck of the draw. 1/3 of the Senate is up for election every two years. Kerry just lucked out by being in the middle of his term when the Presidential race was on.

BTW ... being from North Carolina, as is Edwards, and based on what I've read and heard about his seat, plans, etc., this unsuccessful run for the VP slot with Kerry seems to be his "last hoorah."

Senators have 6 year terms. Edward's was up...Kerry still has two more years. Senators are elected on a rotating frequency - 1/3 of the senate is re-elected every 2 years.

Also, Kerry would have won his seat anyhow. Liberal-ass Mass. loves him. (Ted Kennedy is the other one...think about it...) In contrast, the South can't stand Edwards. As someone said, Edwards was done anyhow.

...That our European and Canadian friends, with their "socialized" view of the world cannot figure out WHY we would vote for Bush is not surprising. They really have no understanding of the US or what makes us think. Europe is a real mess economically AND politically, why would we want to be in such a weakened state given the dangers out there. Canada? They are on a downward spiral and cannot see it coming...


Soooooo, you live in wich world again?

And with that.....I am outta here......gone.....poof.

Wow is right.

You are still tearing down Kerry, Europe, Canada, and the rest of the world who disagrees with you, and your side won. Talk about a sore loser.

Remember, Kerry got very nearly 50% of the vote also, so don't proclaim to be sure of what America wants or how it thinks. I think America is strong because it has millions of different voices, all of whom want different things, and think differently. We are one nation by flag and by borders and by the common good, not by thought, it would be good for both you and our president to remember that.


Actually, he seems to be inviting those nearly 50% of American's who didn't support Bush to leave the country.

Aparently you aren't American enough for Bif..... after all - in his own words, you are "idiots" and are lumped in with Europeans and Canadians as "people who don't understand Americans" and he has "seen what you really are"



And to think that I get accused of calling American's names.... :rolleyes:

Anyone who does not see that Kerry was the WORST possible option is a moron.

Don't. Just don't.



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Don't. Just don't.



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Yeah...keep it clean

Yeah...keep it clean


you mean "anyone that votes Kerry is a cleen moron" :-D lol I like that better (I am confused on the connotations though)

Ignoring most of that stuff, you do know that Edwards is still a senator, right? He doesn't have to "go back to sueing(sic) Dr's."

Umm. No. He did not run again. Kerry is still a senator though.

Woa...

OKAY. Seriously. All Americans with a brain, please, PLEASE come to Europe, Canada, Mexico, anywhere. Save yourselves lads!


Yes please. Go.

He did? Hmm, that seems pretty short-sighted to me. Kerry didn't do the same, did he?

It wasnt short sighten. Edwards was an unpopular senator who had slim chances of winning. Kerry is popular in his state and is in no risk of losing.

It wasnt short sighten. Edwards was an unpopular senator who had slim chances of winning. Kerry is popular in his state and is in no risk of losing.

No, we really don't like him much. It's just that the Republican party in this state has pretty much given up on running for the Senate.

So Bush was elected and did something even Bill Clinton could not do. He received over 50% of the vote! PLUS he received more votes than any other candidate ever. So what happened here?

The debates had no affect.....

Where were the rampant numbers of minorities being denied their vote? Jesse Jackson was here in Florida stating that we should never let what happened in 2000 happen again!!! The ACLU had closed circuit TV cameras at many polling places just looking for problems.

I am convinced that Kerry would have been an unmitigated disaster for the US. He was certainly no leader. That our European and Canadian friends, with their "socialized" view of the world cannot figure out WHY we would vote for Bush is not surprising. They really have no understanding of the US or what makes us think. Europe is a real mess economically AND politically, why would we want to be in such a weakened state given the dangers out there. Canada? They are on a downward spiral and cannot see it coming.

To end this post....and probably my posting on here altogether.....

Michael Moore may have had a stroke by now. I certainly hope his fat ass died in agony with the last thing his mind registering was the final results. I would love to think he is sitting in hell with the knowledge that his efforts were for nothing. For those of you who actually believed what he was spoon feeding you.....you are idiots.

The US and the world will be just fine. Bush's re-election does NOT portend bad things to come, except to certain middle eastern groups. Now we will have the defeated Democrats scurrying around trying to block almost everything Bush wants to do, but we have seen them for what they are and they will not soon forget the lesson they were taught on Nov. 2nd. Even Tom Daschle is gone. Edwards? I guess he will go back to sueing Dr's. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

Dan Rather was having a rough night covering the returns. He was VERY slow in calling states for Bush compared to the other pundits. I thought he was going to cry. He too will be gone soon, having ruined his reputation by being so partisan.

Oh, and for those of you who are so "ashamed" for being American now, well, we don't have closed borders. You are free to leave whenever you please. May Sean Penn and the Hollywood set join you. They are all idiots too.

I would have loved to have seen Badnarik win, but Kerry was too much of a risk for me to NOT vote for Bush. Anyone who does not see that Kerry was the WORST possible option is a moron.

Wow Liberatarians are the worst Sore winners/losers since your party lost.

You didn't even vote for your pary! Hilarious! What are you a Liberatarian in name only?

Sheesh lost my respect for ya again Biff. You always tell others to vote liberatarian but isn't that hipocritical?

Ignoring most of that stuff, you do know that Edwards is still a senator, right? He doesn't have to "go back to sueing(sic) Dr's."
Edward's isn't a senator for much longer. He didn't run for re-election and now a Republican will be filling his seat when the lame duck session is over.

Wow Liberatarians are the worst Sore winners/losers since your party lost.

You didn't even vote for your pary! Hilarious! What are you a Liberatarian in name only?

Sheesh lost my respect for ya again Biff. You always tell others to vote liberatarian but isn't that hipocritical?
One can be an ideological libertarian without being in the party. And there are varying degrees of libertarian as well.

One can be an ideological libertarian without being in the party. And there are varying degrees of libertarian as well.

Yeah, but I believe Biff has been advocating voting for Badnarik, but he didn't.

It wasnt short sighten. Edwards was an unpopular senator who had slim chances of winning. Kerry is popular in his state and is in no risk of losing.

Actully, Kerry almost lost in 2000 against weld (-?), and I wouldn't be surprised if he has trouble in the next cycle due to this debacle.

Still, a week id's a jung time in poll-tactics as Harrased Wilsods once observed.

Actully, Kerry almost lost in 2000 against weld (-?), and I wouldn't be surprised if he has trouble in the next cycle due to this debacle.

Still, a week id's a jung time in poll-tactics as Harrased Wilsods once observed.

No, he ran in 2002 against Cloud and won 81%-19%.

No, he ran in 2002 against Cloud and won 81%-19%.

Was it the primary he was behind in then?

I know it wasn't a sure thing ro him.

Pray tell what does he base his 'Europe is a mess politically and economically' on exactly? We are doing a damn sight better than the US economy with its trillion dollar debt already racked up and Bush without a single plan to reduce it.
It interesting that when comparing the Bush states to Kerry ones the 25 states with the lowest IQ's voted for Bush...

http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

Was it the primary he was behind in then?

I know it wasn't a sure thing ro him.

Nah, he's done fine lately. Kennedy's been having a rougher go at it the past couple of elections, but they're both solidly in their seats. The problem is that the Republican party here doesn't even try for those Senate seats. They haven't run anyone even remotely desirable for a while.

Nah, he's done fine lately. Kennedy's been having a rougher go at it the past couple of elections, but they're both solidly in their seats. The problem is that the Republican party here doesn't even try for those Senate seats. They haven't run anyone even remotely desirable for a while.

Well do they even run anyone?

Here in new york, the didn't even have a candidate against Schumer until like a week before the election, and then they only got one because they "borrowed" the libertarian.

Still it wasn't an 81 - 19 blowout though.

. So what happened here?



What happened is that the developed part of the nation voted dem and that the countryside farmers voted Rep. A proof again that the US inland is a agrarical undevelopt region with nop access to other media then their owns and with a cripled mind.




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I am convinced that Kerry would have been an unmitigated disaster for the US. He was certainly no leader.
Well we'll never now that since he is not elected or do have proof that his businness failed or so? With Bush, we all now that he did not succeed in anything he touched: desertion from the army, cowardly behavior instead of going to Nam, abuse of Taxpayers money to build a sportstempel in Dallas from wich the revenues only benefited the private sector, a disaster in the companies that he tried to lead..
Normally, bushie allways jumped of the sinking ships that he left behind everywhere he came but now, for the first time in his life, he will have to clean up the mess he created during his first term.


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That our European and Canadian friends, with their "socialized" view of the world cannot figure out WHY we would vote for Bush is not surprising.
Is it not because of your incapacity to understand something about the world outside your village that you say such nonsense? Most Europeans are way better informed about the US and the world in general then vice versa. Most exceptions in the US are beyound the democrats.

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They really have no understanding of the US or what makes us think.
Evidence?
See above.

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Europe is a real mess economically AND politically,.
Evidence, proof? There are way less poor people in Europe and the average European really does not care if they have a annual grow of 2% or 4% like in the US since most working people have a better life here (4 weeks payed holidays, still higher and better quality production in industry, the social security that makes you angry and jalouse becaus eyou only have something that matches with bananarepublics). And lets not forget, the governments are way less corupt then the US republican regime. Good example is the abuse of taxpayers money for a superhigh oilprice asked by the Cheney guys at the military in Iraq, even Berlusconi in the most corrupt EU nation would go that far. ASO...


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why would we want to be in such a weakened state given the dangers out there. .

Huh, a weakend state? From wich planet do you come, you are getting weaker and weaker by each day with W. in the White house.
When all your allies involved are thinking to leave Bush allone in the Iraqi desert and with poor equiped troops that need European troops (Brits) to bail them out because they lack their quality and training, I think that you have a rather strange definition of stong and weak..
Bushes unilateralisme will have as only result that (again) he will have to ask on his knees for support from his allies in a illegal war for oil based on the WMD and other lies. (you really easaly forget, the only WMD they found when they speak about it in the White House was Bushes dirty underwear).


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Michael Moore may have had a stroke by now. I certainly hope his fat ass died in agony with the last thing his mind registering was the final results. I would love to think he is sitting in hell with the knowledge that his efforts were for nothing. .
Hmm, we are allready sure of four more years of Michael Moore now :p

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For those of you who actually believed what he was spoon feeding you.....you are idiots

The only ideot is you, because 99% he says is factual. Problem with bible people like you is that you "believe" instead of checking facts. You "believe" in WMD's that only exist like your special god (must be a nazi with leather boots insead of Jezus) in your mind.




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The US and the world will be just fine.
This is really your best joke :D :D :D
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Bush's re-election does NOT portend bad things to come, except to certain middle eastern groups.
Seeing such stupidity and naivity is sweet but you are a ganger for society, will be nice to see the continuation of the destruction of your last natural reserves with Bush.
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Oh how the mighty have fallen.
You must be the only person that see people as those senators as "the mighty" instead of the Bush maffia.

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Oh, and for those of you who are so "ashamed" for being American now, well, we don't have closed borders. You are free to leave whenever you please. May Sean Penn and the Hollywood set join you. They are all idiots too.

When I see morrons like you spreading such hate, then it is easy to understand why Nazism and fascisme are right wing extremist movements adored by some Republicans alliens.

Nice to see that as a result of Bushes (real election ? )second term you'll only weaken yourself and will support Ossama in doing what he likes to do: spreading anti american hate in the middle east and the rest of the world. Let's not forget that he will continue to do what he likes to do: decapitation of people in Iraq, I would not have a problem with it if it where republican soldiers (since they would have it comming) but now, most are innocents.

You are so obssessed by Moore and Penn that there must be something wrong with your looks or are you just jalous towards succesfull people?
Must be both in your case.

Well do they even run anyone?

Here in new york, the didn't even have a candidate against Schumer until like a week before the election, and then they only got one because they "borrowed" the libertarian.

Still it wasn't an 81 - 19 blowout though.

Right, that's what I'm saying. The Republicans here have more or less surrendered running against Kerry or Kennedy. In 1996, I think, Mitt Romney ran against Kennedy, and got blown out. He was a relatively new face to Massachusetts politics and no one knew anything about his stances whatsoever. He gets crushed, then he goes to Utah and saves the Salt Lake City Olympic Games from the scandal that had embroiled them. He gets his chops, comes back and gets the incumbent governor of the state to not run so he can run as the Republican, and he wins landslide-like. It seems like the Republican Party here sends up-and-comers against Kerry and Kennedy to get a loss under their belts and some political experience before they go on to bigger and better things, rather than sending their big guys in an actual effort to win.

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Allow me to summarize:

"Waah, Kerry lost. The entire Earth is now going to self-destruct. Anyone who voted for Bush is obviously an idiot, since there are no justifiable reasons to vote for Bush."

And so on and so forth.

How'd I do?

sure its easy to win when you have no true morals and will do anything to rig an election.

Allow me to summarize:

"Waah, Kerry lost. The entire Earth is now going to self-destruct. Anyone who voted for Bush is obviously an idiot, since there are no justifiable reasons to vote for Bush."

And so on and so forth.

How'd I do?

Bad since you did not summarize what I said to Biff :)
But you commies are not capable to. BTW, for me, Bush is a commie since he does the same with the budget and has the same mob friends as Stalin. He is also way to left with you democrats and moderate republicans. He should not shame himself for the Nazi ties between his familly and Hess and Rosenberg, in private, he is allways verry proud on this and the signed photo of Hitler given to Prescot. ;) Hell, we have a European German in the white house with a secret agenda (he'll oblige us to wear leather pants and swim in ze beer)