NationStates Jolt Archive


The Philosophy of Liberty

The Lightning Star
04-11-2004, 20:55
While searching the internet I came upon a very throught-provoking flash movie. It uses simple pictures, a surprisingly strange background music, and simple words to portray a very moving and powerful point.

You can find it at : http://uploads.ungrounded.net/content.php?id=67084&name=67084_PhilosophyOfLiberty_englis.swf&title=The%20Philosophy%20of%20Liberty&date=1099544400&quality=b&uj=0&w=600&h=400
Just wait for it to load then it will start up. Its around 1MB large so if you have a slow connection be patient.
The Lightning Star
04-11-2004, 21:38
Bumpz0rz
The Militaristic Force
04-11-2004, 22:06
aaaawwwwwwww

that shud b part of the national curriculum

beautiful :)
The Lightning Star
04-11-2004, 22:07
y'know you can post ur thoughts on the movie, rrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiigggggghhhhhttttt?
The Lightning Star
04-11-2004, 22:08
aaaawwwwwwww

that shud b part of the national curriculum

beautiful :)

I agree, it is quite moving and informative :D. Im going to go show it to a teacher i know who is constantly talking about stuff like that. She'd love it!
HyperionCentauri
04-11-2004, 22:09
anyone know Roussau?

i don't like that flash too much.. about property, i belive, since its a belief system that this wrong... "justly aquired" property.
The Lightning Star
04-11-2004, 22:13
anyone know Roussau?

Nope
Andaluciae
04-11-2004, 22:13
much-long...
Superpower07
04-11-2004, 22:17
Wow . . . Utterly brilliant!
Sdaeriji
04-11-2004, 22:23
That was really well done.
The Lightning Star
04-11-2004, 22:25
Just to remind everyone, I did NOT make this movie!
HyperionCentauri
04-11-2004, 22:27
Just to remind everyone, I did NOT make this movie!
don't worry we don't think you made this.. we all know you're the most unskilled and talentless member of this board....
(jk) ;)
The Lightning Star
04-11-2004, 22:28
don't worry we don't think you made this.. we all know you're the most unskilled and talentless member of this board....
(jk) ;)

Lol!

Well, at least our PARTIALLY true. I, for one, could NEVER make a Flash movie if my life depended on it :D
Eutrusca
04-11-2004, 22:33
Very interesting and well done. The philosophy behind this flash program seems to most closely resemble libertarianism. As an ideal, it's not too bad, but as with most idealized philosophies, where it breaks down is in practice. I think the logical consequences of this approach to life would often be somewhat bizzare and unworkable.

BTW ... the music is classical, but I can't remember the title just now.
Presidency
04-11-2004, 22:33
Liberty is to Heisenberg as philosophy is to opinions.
The Lightning Star
04-11-2004, 22:35
Very interesting and well done. The philosophy behind this flash program seems to most closely resemble libertarianism. As an ideal, it's not too bad, but as with most idealized philosophies, where it breaks down is in practice. I think the logical consequences of this approach to life would often be somewhat bizzare and unworkable.

BTW ... the music is classical, but I can't remember the title just now.

At first i thought it was sortof Anarchism(seeing how it seemed like it didnt like government) but after i saw it all i thought it was Libertarianism as well.
Moonshine
04-11-2004, 22:46
While searching the internet I came upon a very throught-provoking flash movie. It uses simple pictures, a surprisingly strange background music, and simple words to portray a very moving and powerful point.

You can find it at : http://uploads.ungrounded.net/content.php?id=67084&name=67084_PhilosophyOfLiberty_englis.swf&title=The%20Philosophy%20of%20Liberty&date=1099544400&quality=b&uj=0&w=600&h=400
Just wait for it to load then it will start up. Its around 1MB large so if you have a slow connection be patient.

..plus the wait for Flash Player 7 to download. Eurgh.

And yeah, I agree, though the tone of the animation does seem somewhat absolutist. It's not exactly much use quoting libertarian ethics to the guy holding a gun to your head. ;)

Also:
http://uploads.ungrounded.net/content.php?id=67084&name=67084_PhilosophyOfLiberty_englis.swf&title=The%20Philosophy%20of%20Liberty%20is%20that%20Moonshine%20pwns%20j00%20and%20can%20make%20thin gs%20HUGEZ0R&date=1099544400&quality=b&uj=0&w=6000&h=4000
and:
http://uploads.ungrounded.net/content.php?id=67084&name=67084_PhilosophyOfLiberty_englis.swf&title=The%20Philosophy%20of%20Liberty%20is%20that%20Moonshine%20pwns%20j00&date=1099544400&quality=b&uj=0&w=600&h=400

URL hacking is fun...
The Lightning Star
04-11-2004, 22:48
..plus the wait for Flash Player 7 to download. Eurgh.

Also:
http://uploads.ungrounded.net/content.php?id=67084&name=67084_PhilosophyOfLiberty_englis.swf&title=The%20Philosophy%20of%20Liberty%20is%20that%20Moonshine%20pwns%20j00%20and%20can%20make%20thin gs%20HUGEZ0R&date=1099544400&quality=b&uj=0&w=6000&h=4000
and:
http://uploads.ungrounded.net/content.php?id=67084&name=67084_PhilosophyOfLiberty_englis.swf&title=The%20Philosophy%20of%20Liberty%20is%20that%20Moonshine%20pwns%20j00&date=1099544400&quality=b&uj=0&w=600&h=400

URL hacking is fun...

Lol! how'd you do dat?
Moonshine
04-11-2004, 23:12
Lol! how'd you do dat?

Muahahaha, you shall nevar find my secret!!!

hint: look at the entire links that I provided, next to the link you provided, and see if you can find the difference..
The Lightning Star
04-11-2004, 23:21
Muahahaha, you shall nevar find my secret!!!

hint: look at the entire links that I provided, next to the link you provided, and see if you can find the difference..

A-HA! I found it! You just screwed with the link!


MMMWWWWWWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!


Now i can give people links to nationstates that say "Lightning Star's Awesome game!" at the top!

Heh heh heh!
The Lightning Star
05-11-2004, 03:29
bumpz0rz
The Lightning Star
05-11-2004, 03:53
Bum--- what the? Oh no!!!

MOOSES!!!!!!!!

(OOC: In other words, bump.)
Andaluciae
05-11-2004, 06:28
anyone know Roussau?

i don't like that flash too much.. about property, i belive, since its a belief system that this wrong... "justly aquired" property.


Jean Jacques, yeah, I know him.
The Holy Palatinate
05-11-2004, 07:13
anyone know Roussau?
A little - assuming you mean Rousseau. Although a bit of a goit, I did like his claim that the ideal govt depends on the nature of the people - people motivated by ideals will be best served by a republic, people motivated by honour are best served by a monarchy/feudal structure, while those motivated by fear belong in a tyranny.
Of course, since then we've developed the constitutional monarchy to combine monarchy and republic - maybe if we can find a way to incorporate tyranny we'll finally have the ideal form of govt.
Druthulhu
05-11-2004, 07:22
Cute, but ultimately trite and elementary. Good for grade schoolers and people from traditional dictatorships, I guess.
The Lightning Star
05-11-2004, 15:59
Cute, but ultimately trite and elementary. Good for grade schoolers and people from traditional dictatorships, I guess.

Well what did you expect? Newgrounds isnt exactly for flash's like these. This is actually quite advanced compared to the other stuff :D