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I call upon my fellow voters who backed John Kerry to resist the Bush Agenda. Drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge, passing a gay marriage ban, and writing the Bible into the law codes are not American. It's wrong, and I will not stand by the President while he attempts it. I will not be a party to his wicked, immoral little game.

-Shalrirorchia

Yeah, umm I hate Bush but I dont think he's gonna go as far as to enfore religion on our laws . . . besides there are enough Democrats left to oppose this

Do you plan on leaving America then? I too supported Kerry and hope to hell an Assassin's bullet finds Dubs' skull in the next few months.

Do you plan on leaving America then? I too supported Kerry and hope to hell an Assassin's bullet finds Dubs' skull in the next few months.
No (actually I supported Badnarik), but tons of my friends want to leave

The worst thing about Bush is not his foreign policy as you ahve pointed out but his environmental policy, or rather lack of one.

The rhetoric used by him about terrorism changing 'the way we live' and 'destroying the world as we know it' is more fitting for the environmental problems that this world is due to face. What will Bush's arguments be when the rivers of america overflow and its cities and towns flood?

Terrorism is a tiny threat compared to that posed by environmental breakdown which is unfortunately being exacerbated by Bush. People think that Bush is protecting them and maybe he is in one sense but he is actually making things worse by caring more about protectionist policies that help big business and him win votes rather than about helping the environment and by refusing the Kyoto treaty which would genuinely help.

Bush is the biggest threat to the US today but not because of terrorists but because of the environment!

Organize rallies and protest then, damn it. Don't just sit there or leave.

Organize rallies and protest then, damn it. Don't just sit there or leave.

I'm not American.

Then obviously I'm not talking to you. :p

I call upon my fellow voters who backed John Kerry to resist the Bush Agenda. Drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge, passing a gay marriage ban, and writing the Bible into the law codes are not American. It's wrong, and I will not stand by the President while he attempts it. I will not be a party to his wicked, immoral little game.

-Shalrirorchia

Did you pack your things already? or you think that electing a democrat would have change things much?

Maybe it would be just better if you start acting like an adult and find a way for taking the oligarchs from power.

I call upon my fellow voters who backed John Kerry to resist the Bush Agenda. Drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge, passing a gay marriage ban, and writing the Bible into the law codes are not American. It's wrong, and I will not stand by the President while he attempts it. I will not be a party to his wicked, immoral little game.

-Shalrirorchia

Drilling in the Artic = use of natural resources = completely American.

Gay marriage ban = religious-based princples and laws = completely American.

Writing the Bible into law = religious-based principles and laws = completely American.

"..wicked, immoral.." = religious-based principles and laws = completely American.

What's your point? Everything that Bush has done or suggested IS completely American. Moral marginalization, hedonism, self-centeredness, self-absorption, globalization of culture, and Green before Humanity is completely UN-American.

I call upon my fellow voters who backed John Kerry to resist the Bush Agenda. Drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge, passing a gay marriage ban, and writing the Bible into the law codes are not American. It's wrong, and I will not stand by the President while he attempts it. I will not be a party to his wicked, immoral little game.

-Shalrirorchia

I beg to differ. The election was two days ago, and with the results seen, I'm afraid you, and your fellows, will indeed be a party to his wicked, immoral games. It's not as though you have any choice on the matter, unfortunately it's been foisted upon you. You're not in a political position that allows you much say in the running of things.

I feel for you, though. I really do.

No (actually I supported Badnarik), but tons of my friends want to leave
If they don't just tell them ATNA every single time you see them.

Drilling in the Artic = use of natural resources = completely American.

Really? Then what was Teddy doing when he set up the National Park system? Some mighty fine resouces going to "waste" there.


Gay marriage ban = religious-based princples and laws = completely American.

Writing the Bible into law = religious-based principles and laws = completely American.

"..wicked, immoral.." = religious-based principles and laws = completely American.

And Madison was suggesting what the seperation of Chruch and State?

What's your point? Everything that Bush has done or suggested IS completely American. Moral marginalization, hedonism, self-centeredness, self-absorption,
Ahh you have never been to Washington DC, Los Angles, New Orleans, New York.....

globalization of culture,

Ahh you missed that melting pot thing eh?
You have also never visted other nations and seen our stuff there and what is Disney thinking?

and Green before Humanity is completely UN-American.

Ahh Never been to California eh?

I call upon my fellow voters who backed John Kerry to resist the Bush Agenda. Drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge, passing a gay marriage ban, and writing the Bible into the law codes are not American.
Actually, I personally think that at least a few laws are derived from Biblical code. I know, I know. Freedom of Religion. But even if that is the case, some denomination of Christianity is the religion of a very large percentage of Americans. With Hispanics alone, Catholicism dominates. And so, some laws are derived from the codes laid out in the Pentateuch (the Greek name for the Torah).

Yeah, umm I hate Bush but I dont think he's gonna go as far as to enfore religion on our laws . . . besides there are enough Democrats left to oppose this

Let's look at the numbers, shall we?

In the Senate... While the Republicraps don't have enough of a majority to sidestep a filibuster, they do however, have a majority and can use it to their advantage.
Seats in the US Senate
Republicraps = 55
Democrats = 45

In the House of Representatives, there is a similar case. The Democrats have a fair number of seats, but once again the majority goes to the Republicraps.
Seats in the House of Representatives
Republicraps = 225
Democrats = 200

There are some undecided seats though.

Finally, the Supreme Court is filled with Republicraps except for two that were appointed while former President Bill Clinton was in power.

Now, there is one Supreme Court Justice, who is likely to retire because of complications with Cancer, and a couple of others may be on the brink of retiring as well, so that means that the shrub can pack the Supreme Court full of his buddies to push his mandate/agenda.

And no, I hate Bush like a good Canadian, I just happen to know the exact numbers (pretty much) and that the states is screwed because of the overwheliming Republicrap majority in both the Senate and the House of Reps (how appropos).

Yesterday I declared war on Reactionary/Radical Conservatism...if Bush can declare war on an abstract noun, so can I.

Let's look at the numbers, shall we?

In the Senate... While the Republicraps don't have enough of a majority to sidestep a filibuster, they do however, have a majority and can use it to their
*SNIP*

Just to add a comment I heard from some guy on the tele.

Many of the Democrats they replaced tended to be moderate so they got rid of people that might have compromised! ;)

Do you plan on leaving America then? I too supported Kerry and hope to hell an Assassin's bullet finds Dubs' skull in the next few months.
you my friend should be killed if you trully mean this nonsense...and then hung from a bridge somewhere

you my friend should be killed if you trully mean this nonsense...and then hung from a bridge somewhere

Maybe a 2 day forumban will force you to rethink that statement.


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Maybe a 2 day forumban will force you to rethink that statement.


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shit maybe your biased support of a person wishing for a nations duelly elected leaders assassination will make me rethink your whole stinking crap ass forum...

It's all wishing harm against another individual. One is just right to someone's face. Let's see some equal protection under the forums.

I'm not saying that it's right to threaten someone, but if two people threaten the last threatener shouldn't be the only one punished.

Radical religious fundamentalism is not American. Equal justice under law is, and Bush has been anything BUT equal!

If two people threaten the last threatener shouldn't be the only one punished.
Unless one is pro-Bush. In which case banning them unreasonably is par for the course.

It's all wishing harm against another individual. One is just right to someone's face. Let's see some equal protection under the forums.

I'm not saying that it's right to threaten someone, but if two people threaten the last threatener shouldn't be the only one punished.
Seeing as Bush is not( he doesn't use the internet to play games I think) in Nation States he has no protection.
Gladdis threatened a person in Nation States big difference.

That is at least how the interpretation sems to be.

Here's a verse from my favorite song by Pillar

"I saw on the news the other day, somebody else complaining"

"They want the motto taken off the Benjamin Franklin"

"They got a problem with my God and that i believe in him"

"But they dont got a problem with the money and where they spend it"

"So offended by four words of our western nation"

"In God We Trust the motto of our greatest nation"

"Not just a motto but something we truely believe"

"If you dont like it, you can pack your bag and you can leave"

"Stop complaining, move on, open your eyes, see whats going on, we need

to get back to the ways of the days of old, one nation under God indivisable"

Face it, this nation was built under God, the constitution was constructed with the guidelines of the ten commandments, thats why God is in the pledge of allegience, the constitution, our money from the penny to the hundred dollar bill. If you dont like our nations and Bush's biblical philosophy: "you can pack your bag and you can leave"

So sick of you liberals and foreigners trying to change our way of life to suit your needs, our nation was built on a foundation and damnit it should stay that way.

Seeing as Bush is not( he doesn't use the internet to play games I think) in Nation States he has no protection.
Gladdis threatened a person in Nation States big difference.

That is at least how the interpretation sems to be.
Actually, threatening to kill a President is a felony. Threatening to kill some 12 year old on NS isn't.

Just to add a comment I heard from some guy on the tele.

Many of the Democrats they replaced tended to be moderate so they got rid of people that might have compromised! ;)
That will stall things a bit when it comes to a filibuster.

Actually, threatening to kill a President is a felony. Threatening to kill some 12 year old on NS isn't.
Actually not on the internet. Its only a felony to say so in real life.

Actually not on the internet. Its only a felony to say so in real life.
Tell that to Ashcroft ;p

Tell that to Ashcroft ;pWho might thankfully be retiring (http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/04/ashcroft.future.ap/index.html)

Actually, threatening to kill a President is a felony. Threatening to kill some 12 year old on NS isn't.

Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure he didn't actually threaten to kill anyone. He simply said he hoped someone else would kill him.

This is sheer ignorance. People like you on both sides of the political spectrum are going to destroy this country with your whining crap. Listen to Kerry's plea in his concession speech: don't give up your views, but be willing to compromise. America is too far divided and we need to bridge the partisan gap. This is not the way to do that.

Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure he didn't actually threaten to kill anyone. He simply said he hoped someone else would kill him.
gladdis didn't threaten to kill anyone he (i ) said the person should be killed..note the difference people