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For those of you that say he is... how do you explain the fact that he has been excommunicated?

For those of you that say he is... how do you explain the fact that he has been excommunicated?
Source please.

Just because the Central Chuirch excommunicates a person, doesn't mean that he/she is no longer allowed to believe in whatever he/she wants to believe in.

Actually, John Kerry is a "False Christian"

Watch this ad for details:

False Christian (http://www.georgewbush.org/spots/index.asp)


ROFL :D

I really thought we'd be done with these kind of threads by yesterday.

Just because the Central Chuirch excommunicates a person, doesn't mean that he/she is no longer allowed to believe in whatever he/she wants to believe in.
Indeed he dosen't. Kerry could still be a Christian and believe in Christ... but he wouldn't be a Catholic.

For those of you that say he is... how do you explain the fact that he has been excommunicated?

As far as I know he has not been excommunicated. I believe he's allowed Eucharist.

Let me just say that I agree with this part of Harbour Terrace's inane rant:

As a christian myself with a strong faith, I'd like to say that I don't give a rat's ass what invisible man Kerry worships. I care about his policies and plans.

Period.

As to everything else he said, I think some people should stay off my side. ;)

[QUOTE=Harbour Terrace]snip[QUOTE]

Anti-americanism is fine. Everyone is entitled to his/her own views. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to try change them to fit mine. What fun would the world be if we didn't voice our opinions because we don't want to offend others?

Anyways, if you think it doesn't matter, or shouldn't matter, or you don't care, kindly refrain from posting on this thread. If you want, make a "does Kerry's religion matter" thread

Also, I never said Kerry's religion had any bearing on is ability as a leader. I was just trying to figure out why people keep referring to him as a Catholic, even though, in my opinion, he isn't.

As far as I know he has not been excommunicated. I believe he's allowed Eucharist.

sources?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40980

there's one. Just run a google search for kerry excommunicated, you lazy bums.

As far as him being allowed to receive the Eucharist, that's not the case in most Catholic Churchs... but some are sympathetic to him, so I think he goes to those and receives...

Actually the Catholic view is that if one commits abortion or helps others to commit abortion that person is instantly excommunicated (separated from the church) whether anyone knows about the person's actions or not.

These people aren't supposed to take the eucharist, though I'm sure many do.

I really thought we'd be done with these kind of threads by yesterday.
Heh heh heh. So naive...

Actually the Catholic view is that if one commits abortion or helps others to commit abortion that person is instantly excommunicated (separated from the church) whether anyone knows about the person's actions or not.

These people aren't supposed to take the eucharist, though I'm sure many do.

Actually, that's true of any mortal sin. I just posted the link because someone wanted a source.

Who cares? After the election we caught live video feed of John Kerry practicing his chosen Faith on a nearby brick wall...Here comesthe replay feed now get ready:


:headbang:

Im a Catholic. This is a issue because Kerry brags about being Catholic every chance he gets. He brags about being a alterboy all the time. I was a alterboy to.

Fact is, he brags about his faith but he doesnt stand up for it. He once again wants a little bit of both worlds, bragging about his faith for catholic votes, then not standing up for his beliefs so he can get the liberal votes. The perfect example is when in the second debate, a question about abortion hit him and he said "im a catholic, but i will not impose my beliefs on others". He will set aside his idealogy for votes, false advocate.

One Hour Later: :headbang:

Actually, that's true of any mortal sin. I just posted the link because someone wanted a source.
Sounds to me like the letter writer either didn't intend to excommunicate Kerry or was just too chickenshit to do so openly. Kerry refuses to legislate "faith articles", and while I know it might be hard for the catholic church to comprehend the meaning of "separation of church and state", that is what we are supposed to have in the US.

I know it might be hard for the catholic church to comprehend the meaning of "separation of church and state", that is what we are supposed to have in the US.
Not if Keyes had got in. I'm so glad my home state voted with sanity this election year. However, I lament that I cannot say this of the rest of the country. Perhaps I can move to my ancestral home of Ireland.

Not if Keyes had got in. I'm so glad my home state voted with sanity this election year. However, I lament that I cannot say this of the rest of the country. Perhaps I can move to my ancestral home of Ireland.
The funny thing is, Ireland is one of the only other countries in the West with abortion as much of an issue as it is in the US :p

Im a Catholic. This is a issue because Kerry brags about being Catholic every chance he gets. He brags about being a alterboy all the time. I was a alterboy to.

Fact is, he brags about his faith but he doesnt stand up for it. He once again wants a little bit of both worlds, bragging about his faith for catholic votes, then not standing up for his beliefs so he can get the liberal votes. The perfect example is when in the second debate, a question about abortion hit him and he said "im a catholic, but i will not impose my beliefs on others". He will set aside his idealogy for votes, false advocate.

One Hour Later: :headbang:

So you are saying that imposing your beliefs on others is a catholic value?

Wait..the feed we had was apparently before 1:00 EST and before Kerry's concession. We now feed a more articulate coverage of the intellectual Kerry:

:eek: :confused: :( :mad: :headbang:

Anyways, if you think it doesn't matter, or shouldn't matter, or you don't care, kindly refrain from posting on this thread. If you want, make a "does Kerry's religion matter" thread

Also, I never said Kerry's religion had any bearing on is ability as a leader. I was just trying to figure out why people keep referring to him as a Catholic, even though, in my opinion, he isn't.

I believe that this thread is the correct place to air my views on Kerry's religion, as the title of this thread is "Is John Kerry really Catholic?" and therefore, a very relevant place to speak my mind on the matter.

I guess you just didn't like something that was not in the 2 sided debate you assumed was going to happen, typical of a neophobic religious nut.

Wait..the feed we had was apparently before 1:00 EST and before Kerry's concession. We now feed a more articulate coverage of the intellectual Kerry:

:eek: :confused: :( :mad: :headbang:
And how about a round the clock coverage of bush's brain!

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

His grandparents from his fathers side were Bohemian Jews from a small town called Horni Benisov. Who later converted to Catholicism

And how about a round the clock coverage of bush's brain!

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Your realy interested to watch 24 hours of static?

Your realy interested to watch 24 hours of static?
Nah, but I sure do like beer and boobies.

So you are saying that imposing your beliefs on others is a catholic value?

As a leader, it is your responsibility to lead with your ideals, your ethics and your morals. If you have a faith, those "are" your ideals, your morals, and your ethics unless you dont truly believe it. The catholic faith is pro-life, they believe a child is born at conception. If Kerry believes this as all faithful Catholics do, he is condoning the death of over a million babies a year because if he doesnt it will affect his votes. The Catholic faith is his moral code and he will set it aside for votes. That is a lack of character and conviction. If i lead in a project, i will not contradict myself in something that i believe is wrong just to please you, my responsibility is to lead you on a path that i believe is right, sometimes you wont agree, but as a leader i have to carry on. No one likes their bosses, managers, commanders because sometimes they make us do things we dont want to do for the good of the company, squad, store.

We don't know where this feed came from exactly (or we just don't want to let you know) but... It seems things turned out ok after all even with diminished feelings of victory it seems that Keery and Edwards won their own little battle in the Hotel they checked into afterwards. The cameras were blipped by security guards and this is all we are left to show you. This will most likely appear on Conan O' Brian:

:fluffle:

Im a Catholic. This is a issue because Kerry brags about being Catholic every chance he gets. He brags about being a alterboy all the time. I was a alterboy to.

Fact is, he brags about his faith but he doesnt stand up for it. He once again wants a little bit of both worlds, bragging about his faith for catholic votes, then not standing up for his beliefs so he can get the liberal votes. The perfect example is when in the second debate, a question about abortion hit him and he said "im a catholic, but i will not impose my beliefs on others". He will set aside his idealogy for votes, false advocate.

One Hour Later: :headbang:
I feel the same way.

As a leader, it is your responsibility to lead with your ideals, your ethics and your morals. If you have a faith, those "are" your ideals, your morals, and your ethics unless you dont truly believe it. The catholic faith is pro-life, they believe a child is born at conception. If Kerry believes this as all faithful Catholics do, he is condoning the death of over a million babies a year because if he doesnt it will affect his votes. The Catholic faith is his moral code and he will set it aside for votes. That is a lack of character and conviction. If i lead in a project, i will not contradict myself in something that i believe is wrong just to please you, my responsibility is to lead you on a path that i believe is right, sometimes you wont agree, but as a leader i have to carry on. No one likes their bosses, managers, commanders because sometimes they make us do things we dont want to do for the good of the company, squad, store.

Just because he's a catholic, doesn't mean he has to conform to the ideals of the catholic church. I myself am a catholic, and am also a staunch liberal. To me, the morality of a candidate is second to how he can run the country.

Just because he's a catholic, doesn't mean he has to conform to the ideals of the catholic church. I myself am a catholic, and am also a staunch liberal. To me, the morality of a candidate is second to how he can run the country.

So you dont practice what you preach? You call yourself a catholic and dont follow catholic ideals? Makes you a big hypocrit. Makes you a bigger hypocrit then Kerry because you admit to it. If you believe catholic idealogy, you are obligated to follow it. It shows his credibility and yours, you can say one thing and do another.

As a leader, it is your responsibility to lead with your ideals, your ethics and your morals. If you have a faith, those "are" your ideals, your morals, and your ethics unless you dont truly believe it. The catholic faith is pro-life, they believe a child is born at conception. If Kerry believes this as all faithful Catholics do, he is condoning the death of over a million babies a year because if he doesnt it will affect his votes. The Catholic faith is his moral code and he will set it aside for votes. That is a lack of character and conviction. If i lead in a project, i will not contradict myself in something that i believe is wrong just to please you, my responsibility is to lead you on a path that i believe is right, sometimes you wont agree, but as a leader i have to carry on. No one likes their bosses, managers, commanders because sometimes they make us do things we dont want to do for the good of the company, squad, store.

'Leader'? Remember that HE works for US! He leads where we want him to lead, not where he wants to lead us. His morals, while intersting and definitely relevant, take a backseat to the will of the people.

So you dont practice what you preach? You call yourself a catholic and dont follow catholic ideals? Makes you a big hypocrit. Makes you a bigger hypocrit then Kerry because you admit to it. If you believe catholic idealogy, you are obligated to follow it. It shows his credibility and yours, you can say one thing and do another.
I call myself a catholic because I practice my faith at a catholic church. I agree with the catholic church on many of the things that they believe in. I just don't let my religion dictate my life. Science and reason are far better candidates for that.

This unbeknownst civilian..(apparently in his free time pondering ways to monitor President Bush's brain) recently appeared on the cover of Irish Catholic weekly with a number of Alterboys in questionable positions. When questioned up front he replied this: "To me, the morality of a catholic is second to a bondage session during vows."

After telling him he was on live camera he quickly changed his attitude:
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :headbang:

Is John Kerry really Catholic?

No ... he just says he is because that's what all the cool kids are saying. After all, Catholics are so widely respected and admired in the United States that everyone wants to be one. :rolleyes: [/sarcasm]

So your religious and not faithful? Your a hypocrit, a very big one. You listen to the church, you hear your beliefs being preached, you believe in them (supposedly), then you step outside the church and its all irrelevent to you. The Church preaches the laws of God, the laws of God are supreme over the laws of man. God is the Supreme Rule, not John Kerry, not George Bush, God is and we are "one nation under God". If you are a man of faith, you will follow and defend the laws of God which is preached by your religion Pongour. You set it aside, your a hypocrit.

This unbeknownst civilian..(apparently in his free time pondering ways to monitor President Bush's brain) recently appeared on the cover of Irish Catholic weekly with a number of Alterboys in questionable positions. When questioned up front he replied this: "To me, the morality of a catholic is second to a bondage session during vows."

After telling him he was on live camera he quickly changed his attitude:
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :headbang:

One hour later: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :headbang:

So your religious and not faithful? Your a hypocrit, a very big one. You listen to the church, you hear your beliefs being preached, you believe in them (supposedly), then you step outside the church and its all irrelevent to you. The Church preaches the laws of God, the laws of God are supreme over the laws of man. God is the Supreme Rule, not John Kerry, not George Bush, God is and we are "one nation under God". If you are a man of faith, you will follow and defend the laws of God which is preached by your religion Pongour. You set it aside, your a hypocrit.
Church is not the true word of God. It is fallible. I am a faithful person. I pray. I prayed last night. Guess what for. And where in the bible does it say that abortion is a sin. I know of no eleventh commandment stating, "Thou shalt not have an abortion." The church makes up many things that are not in the bible.

For example:

Guess why you aren't allowed to eat any meat except fish on Friday's. It's because one of the pope's cousin's fishing buisness was not doing so well, so Mr. Pope said, "I just found something new in the bible that nobody else noticed before. Apparently God doesn't want you to eat meat on Friday. Oh, but fish is ok."

Fish Fry!!!!

Yes..that is very religious...you said you prayed...that is not. Many people pray ...for some..who knows why. But kids will pray to Santa Klaus for a new toy.

So now you say you don't really practice your "religion" you just pray. Even if you do eat fish...with that attitude, it's definitely not whole-heartedly.

So, instead you'd be better off praying than talking in this forum, either comically, sarcastically, seriously, non-denominationally, etc. :)

If you do so continue to utter more rhetoric you don't really half stand for or understand then please do so.

Some people stand out because they make a difference that is right and good. Some people stand out because they smell like really bad cheese.

Sounds to me like the letter writer either didn't intend to excommunicate Kerry or was just too chickenshit to do so openly. Kerry refuses to legislate "faith articles", and while I know it might be hard for the catholic church to comprehend the meaning of "separation of church and state", that is what we are supposed to have in the US.

THE CHURCH IS NOT BOUND BY SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.

Why? Because that would be a violation of the policy of separation of Church and State.

How? Because that would be a case of the State placing regulations on the Church. Keep in mind the fact that the State installed separation of Church and State as a limit on itself, to prevent the State from interfering in affairs that are purely religious. The Church had nothing to do with its institution, therefore it is not bound by it.

Also, Kerry is not mentioned in the letter, because the Church doesn't promote one candidate or the other. The Church discusses the issues, then gives a reccomendation on how to vote regarding certain issues (yes, it has taken a harsh stance on abortion). Then, it allows people to draw their own conclusions regarding who to vote for.

His grandparents from his fathers side were Bohemian Jews from a small town called Horni Benisov. Who later converted to Catholicism

So, that makes him Catholic, of course. Everyone knows that religion is hereditory. Just ask Hitler.

So, that makes him Catholic, of course. Everyone knows that religion is hereditory.
Yes, that and him saying he is.
Just ask Hitler.
Ask Hitler what?

I believe that this thread is the correct place to air my views on Kerry's religion, as the title of this thread is "Is John Kerry really Catholic?" and therefore, a very relevant place to speak my mind on the matter.

I guess you just didn't like something that was not in the 2 sided debate you assumed was going to happen, typical of a neophobic religious nut.


You can voice your opinion on Kerry's religion here. But I would rather you not post if the only think you have to say is that it doesn't matter.

Thank you for you closing compliment. I'll add that to my list...

Yes, that and him saying he is.

Ask Hitler what?

It's an example of a common rhetorical device known as sarcasm. Hitler believed that religion is hereditory, and he used this principal in his genocide campaign against Jews.

If at any time he has claimed to be an "alter boy" he is, or if Father McFeely says he is.

It's an example of a common rhetorical device known as sarcasm. Hitler believed that religion is hereditory, and he used this principal in his genocide campaign against Jews.
I could be wrong but I believe that the hereditory thing is actually part of Jewish culture rather then an invention of hitler.

Just because he's a catholic, doesn't mean he has to conform to the ideals of the catholic church. I myself am a catholic, and am also a staunch liberal. To me, the morality of a candidate is second to how he can run the country.

That's funny... because the first commandment is "you shall not have other Gods before me."

If you put politics before God, then the god Politics is your primary god, and God Himself is your secondary one.

I could be wrong but I believe that the hereditory thing is actually part of Jewish culture rather then an invention of hitler.
Aah, no. I'm right.
A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.
Judaism 101: Who is a Jew? (http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm)

I could be wrong but I believe that the hereditory thing is actually part of Jewish culture rather then an invention of hitler.

Good point. I'll think of what i'm saying more carefully next time.

'Leader'? Remember that HE works for US! He leads where we want him to lead, not where he wants to lead us. His morals, while intersting and definitely relevant, take a backseat to the will of the people.

You are confused. If we tell him where to lead us, then we are leading, not him. If that is the case, we should stop calling our President our leader, and start calling him our puppet.

He works for us because we chose him to lead. It's an election, not a job interview.

I call myself a catholic because I practice my faith at a catholic church. I agree with the catholic church on many of the things that they believe in. I just don't let my religion dictate my life. Science and reason are far better candidates for that.

That's funny... because the first commandment is "you shall not have other Gods before me."

If you put science before God, then the god Science is your primary god, and God Himself is your secondary one.

I know i've used this argument before, but I believe it applies in both cases.

No ... he just says he is because that's what all the cool kids are saying. After all, Catholics are so widely respected and admired in the United States that everyone wants to be one. :rolleyes: [/sarcasm]

Keruvalia, you made me grin today. Thanks!

Church is not the true word of God. It is fallible. I am a faithful person. I pray. I prayed last night. Guess what for. And where in the bible does it say that abortion is a sin. I know of no eleventh commandment stating, "Thou shalt not have an abortion." The church makes up many things that are not in the bible.

For example:

Guess why you aren't allowed to eat any meat except fish on Friday's. It's because one of the pope's cousin's fishing buisness was not doing so well, so Mr. Pope said, "I just found something new in the bible that nobody else noticed before. Apparently God doesn't want you to eat meat on Friday. Oh, but fish is ok."

The Church is not the word of God, its the house of God and the bible is the history of Gods work. His teachings, his laws are written in the bible. You put science first, you contradict God's teachings, reason is your ideals. Your reason is based on your ideals and if you say you dont let your faith dictate your way of life then you are leading your life the wrong way. Jesus did not tell his disciples to listen to his teachings and then go and do whatever they wanted to do even if it contradicts his teachings. His disciples followed a strict code, and God demands the same loyalty from us and rarely gets it but a true catholic will at least make the attempt, John Kerry flat out denies it.

Abortion is not a sin? You really dont know your faith do you? God sanctifies human life, its his teachings that a baby is born at conception, not at birth. Abortion kills the baby in its fetus stage and in catholic teachings, the fetus is a living being killed for the sins of the mother 90% of the time. No baby is an accident or a mistake, its the mothers sin that creates a unwanted baby 99% of the time. Abortion is a mortal sin, the most dangerous sin of all because its mans corrupted infringement on human life.

Before you use war as an argument i'll counter it right now. God condones war based on the cause. To save lives, to free an oppressed people, to defeat evil, to enforce justice, these are justified reasons that God will condone war. The War in Iraq is justified. Saddam Hussein was evil, oppressed his people, committed genocide and was the embodiment of the seven deadly sins. War's for profit, power, enslavement, tyranny, the wars of evil, war is good and evil, its chaos because war tends to be good against evil and its a maelstrom of chaos when the two clash. A war for justice is a God condoned war.

Aah, no. I'm right.
A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.
Judaism 101: Who is a Jew? (http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm)

Great post!!!

But a lot of Republicans and other pro Zionist Sharons won't agree.

THE CHURCH IS NOT BOUND BY SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.

But Kerry is. Kerry is respecting the separation of church and state, and the church is failing to respect his respect for the separation of church and state.

But Kerry is. Kerry is respecting the separation of church and state, and the church is failing to respect his respect for the separation of church and state.

No, Kerry is failing to respect the Church. It's his choice to be a Catholic, and I think the Church would be fine if he converted to another faith, but, if he wants to remain member of the Church, he should at least try to listen to the Church's leader, the Pope.

This is my opinion. It is not necessarily the Church's opinion. But it think it is a rational opinion.

I actually have already written on this for my college newspaper. In fact, the paper had to run a special edition of the commentary page just so people can make fun of me. I'll just repeat myself here (the article ran 22 Apr 2004, so please excuse any datedness)...

"The Catholic Church recently told Time magazine in an April 5, 2004, article about its displeasure with democratic frontrunner John Kerry.

Kerry should consider changing his attitude on moral issues such as abortion and gay marriage or changing his religion to something that better suits the decisions he makes as a congressman.

Kerry has pretty consistently upheld abortion as a right in this country. For example, he voted against the partial-birth abortion ban in 1999 and in 2003. He also stood up for homosexual marriage in 1996 when he voted against the Defense of Marriage Act. Catholic teachings say that both of these things are wrong; abortion destroys life and the Catholic definition of marriage prohibits homosexual marriage.

Marriage according to Catholics is defined by four attributes according to the theology of the body by Pope John Paul II: free (no shotgun weddings), total (do not withhold yourself from your spouse in any way), faithful (no adultery) and fruitful (producing children, or at least willing to produce children). Homosexuals cannot have children without hiring a sperm bank or adopting; therefore, it cannot be fruitful and cannot be a marriage.

Public opinion is sharply divided on these issues. In these kinds of situations, our politicians are expected to vote based on what their personal beliefs are. Kerry cannot hide behind his constituents in these instances without defying his denomination, especially since just under half of his constituents are Catholic.

He also cannot hide behind the "separation of church and state" excuse he is currently making; the First Amendment only prohibits the state from proclaiming an official religion, not individual congressmen from voting according to their personal religious beliefs.

His voting record tells me one of three things: He does not understand or is not aware of the Catholic teachings on abortion and homosexuality; he does not care what the teachings say and will vote however he thinks will get him re-elected; or he does not believe in what the Bible and his denomination say about these issues and is just saying whatever he thinks will get him re-elected.

The first idea is quickly dismissed because the Vatican issued the following last year: that Catholic legislators have a "grave and clear obligation to oppose any law that attacks human life (-- laws legalizing abortion, for example). For them, as for every Catholic, it is impossible to promote such laws or to vote for them."

Any legislator who does vote in favor of abortion is not allowed to take Communion or the other sacraments until they rectify the situation.

Kerry mocks the church by taking Communion, even after the Archbishop of St. Louis Raymond Burke told him not to.

The Bible also says in I Corinthians 11:27-28: "Whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup [of Communion] in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup." That leaves the last two. I cannot read people's hearts and I have no desire to try and figure out whether Kerry does not care or does not believe. It does not matter. Either way, Kerry is intentionally denouncing the church he claims to be an adherent to and appears to have no intention to change his errant ways.

Unless Kerry changes his opinion about moral issues and starts voting in agreement with his faith, I urge the religious readers of this paper to consider voting for someone like Alan Keyes, who will vote as his religious beliefs and conscience dictate.

And Kerry, if you read this, please look into your heart and realize the spiritual dilemma you put yourself in when you choose politics over your spirituality. It hurts yourself and your constituents."

Just to address some issues I expect will come up:

1) I'm not Catholic. I hang out with Catholics alot and enjoy learning about the Catholic faith, but I am no expert on Catholicism. Please look at this as such.

2) Marriages with non-ovulating women can still be considered a marriage because the parts (male and female genitalia) are still there for miracle births (Sarah giving birth to Isaac, Elizabeth giving birth to John the Baptist, et cetera) if the couple is receptive of this.

3) Separation of Church and State is not the Constitution. The First Amendment stops the establishment of a national religion and stops any law that impedes on another's religious rights. So expecting someone to erect a wall betwixt their religious beliefs and their function as a politician is not only stupid, but also unconstitutional.

4) I'd like to reiterate something: Mr. Kerry, if you ever see this while surfing on the Internet, please reconsider your outlook on your religion. You should not treat it as a Sunday morning activity with a free cracker and a shot of alcohol, but as a way to live your life in accordance to the Lord, Jesus Christ. You hurt yourself and the people of the United States when you deny the power of your faith in polarized, controversial issues such as abortion and homosexual marriage.

As I've stated before, I'm a JfJ, converted to Catholic. There are 2 kinds of Catholics...or people of faith for that matter. Those who practice their faith and those who merely profess their faith. Kerry professes his Catholic faith but does not practice it in his life. If he were a "practicing" Catholic, he would put his beliefs on the table and let people make the decision. An elected official, weather it's the president or the local city clerk, is obligated to uphold the law, but they are not required to support bringing new laws into being that are opposed to their core beliefs. Kerry, by voting in favor of partial-birth abortion and gay marriage rights, violated the fundamental beliefs of the faith he professes.