NationStates Jolt Archive

I served with the army in Vietnam.
I voted for Reagan and Bush Sr over a few issues primarily smaller government. And the union of the parties. He was a fine president for the most part.

But Bush Jr. is not a conservative, he has created a sparwling millitary state bent on controlling everyones rights. The idea of conservatism is to conserve, not to waste. My brother is currently serving in Afghanistan, this year my sister was raped by a pyschopath who ws realeased during Reagan's destruction of the mental hospitals. Becuase of the millitary. And the huge tab that is picked up by us.

Last election I campained with W junior, and the people were mainly rednecks, and for the most part very undereductated. This year I haven't heard a single intelligent argument from my fellow right wingers. They just seem to obsessed with the tax cut that Bush gives out every year.

For the sake of my children, and yours vote for democrats. Forget the tiny issues like gun control, Euthanasia, abortion, and those stupid tax cuts. My neighbor actually voted for Bush becuase he wanted the economy to stay bad, so his interest rates would be lower.

Please for the common wealth, forget your personal interests. Think about the big picture, for once.

I'm not the smartest of men, but I have seen what war is like, and I don't want my kids or anyone elses kids to have to go through that too.

God bless you. There's no one on earth I respect more than Vietnam veterans.

Would our opinions be included in our personal interests?

I served with the army in Vietnam.
I voted for Reagan and Bush Sr over a few issues primarily smaller government. And the union of the parties. He was a fine president for the most part.

But Bush Jr. is not a conservative, he has created a sparwling millitary state bent on controlling everyones rights. The idea of conservatism is to conserve, not to waste. My brother is currently serving in Afghanistan, this year my sister was raped by a pyschopath who ws realeased during Reagan's destruction of the mental hospitals. Becuase of the millitary. And the huge tab that is picked up by us.

Last election I campained with W junior, and the people were mainly rednecks, and for the most part very undereductated. This year I haven't heard a single intelligent argument from my fellow right wingers. They just seem to obsessed with the tax cut that Bush gives out every year.

For the sake of my children, and yours vote for democrats. Forget the tiny issues like gun control, Euthanasia, abortion, and those stupid tax cuts. My neighbor actually voted for Bush becuase he wanted the economy to stay bad, so his interest rates would be lower.

Please for the common wealth, forget your personal interests. Think about the big picture, for once.

I'm not the smartest of men, but I have seen what war is like, and I don't want my kids or anyone elses kids to have to go through that too.

Interesting views for a "Vietnam veteran." If I were playing the ChessSquares game, I would insist ... nay, DEMAND, that you prove it, but I'm not, so I won't.

Forrest L. Horn
CPT, INF, USA ( Retired/Disabled )
Vietnam, 1967-1969

Would our opinions be included in our personal interests?

I'm a repbulican, I just think W. is swaying from the conservative ideals of our party.

'swaying'? Hehehe. I think he fell into the swimming pool. :)

God bless you. There's no one on earth I respect more than Vietnam veterans.

After you've fought in a war all you should do afterward is advocate peace. I just don't understand anyone that couldn't. After all you've seen how can you want others to experince the same horrible violence? Or the images of villages on fire? How? It's beyond me.

I'm a repbulican, I just think W. is swaying from the conservative ideals of our party.

I understand this and agree. However, my personal beliefs lead me to think that Bush is the better man to help the common wealth of the people. Though, to tell the truth, I voted Libertarian this year.

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After you've fought in a war all you should do afterward is advocate peace. I just don't understand anyone that couldn't. After all you've seen how can you want others to experince the same horrible violence? Or the images of villages on fire? How? It's beyond me.

I'm just saying, there's no one I support more than Vietnam veterans.

Alot of the Nam vets I've known still want war. And this is the most hypocritical idiotic thing I've ever heard. After all of that, how can anyone still want it?

Interesting views for a "Vietnam veteran." If I were playing the ChessSquares game, I would insist ... nay, DEMAND, that you prove it, but I'm not, so I won't.

Forrest L. Horn
CPT, INF, USA ( Retired/Disabled )
Vietnam, 1967-1969

Should we "demand" your bona fides, too? Or cast aspersions upon you by making a public showing of not doing so?

Oh my god! I can't believe it, they're actually resonable, intelligent conservatives!

Congrats on joining the anti-bush coalation. I'm glad to see former service men advocating peace. :)

I'm one of the crazy Lefties on the forum.

REVOLUTION. Preferably non-violent, but if need be, to preserve the sanctity of earth, violence might be called for.

REVOLUTION. Preferably non-violent, but if need be, to preserve the sanctity of earth, violence might be called for.

I'd agree with that.

Should we "demand" your bona fides, too? Or cast aspersions upon you by making a public showing of not doing so?

( shrug ) I couldn't care less. For about the tenth time ...

http://ParadigmAssociates.org/ParadigmFLH.html

I'd agree with that.


You realize you're just as violent as the people you hate. I can understand why, but violence is not the way. It never will be, but people will never understand that.

War, violence, and revolution are not the ways. I agree with a lot of your posts. But you take it to an extreme too. And that's just as wrong as what W's doing.

I don't consider Bush to be a conservative. He likes big government, is anti-free market and is fiscally irresponsible. Tax cuts are supposed to accompany spending cuts! I call him reactionary-right.

sorry dude but i dont buy a word of it...ya'll can rant away at me but i just dont buy this post..sorry

I served with the army in Vietnam.
I voted for Reagan and Bush Sr over a few issues primarily smaller government. And the union of the parties. He was a fine president for the most part.

But Bush Jr. is not a conservative, he has created a sparwling millitary state bent on controlling everyones rights. The idea of conservatism is to conserve, not to waste. My brother is currently serving in Afghanistan, this year my sister was raped by a pyschopath who ws realeased during Reagan's destruction of the mental hospitals. Becuase of the millitary. And the huge tab that is picked up by us.

Last election I campained with W junior, and the people were mainly rednecks, and for the most part very undereductated. This year I haven't heard a single intelligent argument from my fellow right wingers. They just seem to obsessed with the tax cut that Bush gives out every year.

For the sake of my children, and yours vote for democrats. Forget the tiny issues like gun control, Euthanasia, abortion, and those stupid tax cuts. My neighbor actually voted for Bush becuase he wanted the economy to stay bad, so his interest rates would be lower.

Please for the common wealth, forget your personal interests. Think about the big picture, for once.

I'm not the smartest of men, but I have seen what war is like, and I don't want my kids or anyone elses kids to have to go through that too.

Your brother is serving in Afghanistan and you served in Vietnam? You're brother has got to be the oldest soldier on the field out there. Your brother has got to be between 40 and 50 years of age.

So all people supporting Bush are stupid and "undereductated" right? Sure pal, give me one good reason to vote democrat besides hate Bush which isnt valid.

PS: Its "uneducated". my "redneck ass" is teaching you a english lesson.

All I'm doing is advocating peace. Don't prove me right! Please I like to think of some conservatives are reasonable and peace-loving. Yes my brother is is an old soildier. He is Sargent.

If you've served you can talk. If not get the hell out of here. Becuase you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

PS: I don't use profanity very often, but I'll make an exception.

Your brother is serving in Afghanistan and you served in Vietnam? You're brother has got to be the oldest soldier on the field out there. Your brother has got to be between 40 and 50 years of age.


He may be an officer...

All I'm doing is advocating peace. Don't prove me right! Please I like to think of some conservatives are reasonable and peace-loving. Yes my brother is is an old soildier. He is Sargent.

If you've served you can talk. If not get the hell out of here. Becuase you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

PS: I don't use profanity very often, but I'll make an exception.

You know, for someone so peace-loving, you get angry pretty quick, that was my first post, im just getting started.

My brother is a blackhawk helicoptor pilot in iraq so dont question me. I applied to the USAF but a lung disease prohibits me from being a pilot or being a soldier. "Peace be to all you fuckers"

PS: Its "Sergeant" and they retire you from the service after you reach that age.

Howdy ho!

Anyways that's all I had to say. I won't argue like a child. This whole forum is fine for 16 year old idealists. But some of you have better things to do.

Just remember war is hell. And unless you've fought you can't talk. So please don't.

( shrug ) I couldn't care less. For about the tenth time ...

http://ParadigmAssociates.org/ParadigmFLH.html

And I couldn't conceivably care less about Paradigm Associates.

I was simply making a point.

All I'm doing is advocating peace. Don't prove me right! Please I like to think of some conservatives are reasonable and peace-loving. Yes my brother is is an old soildier. He is Sargent.

If you've served you can talk. If not get the hell out of here. Becuase you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

PS: I don't use profanity very often, but I'll make an exception.

Your brother is what rank???

Anyways that's all I had to say. I won't argue like a child. This whole forum is fine for 16 year old idealists. But some of you have better things to do.

Just remember war is hell. And unless you've fought you can't talk. So please don't.


I'm 13, so I can still debate. Ha, now you other assholes leave, becuase like he said "Get a Life." I like this guy, except for the pro-life shit. But everyone has their flaws.

And I couldn't conceivably care less about Paradigm Associates.

I was simply making a point.

I was too. The URL is my personal page on the Website I created for my not-for-profit org ... Paradigm Associates.

Anyways that's all I had to say. I won't argue like a child. This whole forum is fine for 16 year old idealists. But some of you have better things to do.

Just remember war is hell. And unless you've fought you can't talk. So please don't.

I would proudly serve my country right alongside my brother if i wasnt asthmatic, i will fight for a cause worth fighting for. Now before you say Iraq isnt a worthy cause, think of going there and telling a iraqi child that his freedom isnt worth fighting for because he's not american. If you can do it then you can criticize the war, if you cant then your a hypocrit.

... they retire you from the service after you reach that age.

Hmm. Not necessarily. It would depend upon his actual rank, his years of service, whether he was still eligible for promotion, his physical condition, and whether he had reached the mandatory retirement age. Even then, if he was considered "an asset to the service," they could allow an exemption for age.

Anyways that's all I had to say. I won't argue like a child. This whole forum is fine for 16 year old idealists. But some of you have better things to do.

Just remember war is hell. And unless you've fought you can't talk. So please don't.

Sorry but no. Everybody has their own right to speak, regardless of their service or lack thereof. Remember, that's why we have war...

Just because somebody has not served in the armed forces does not make them any less Americans (or that they shouldn't talk). To say so goes directly against the very fiber of what it means to be an American.

I have the utmost respect for those that have served in uniform. My family has had a long history in the forces (including 3 generations AF, some Navy, and some Army). However, serving does not give you the right to blatantly go around and say it's your way or the highway. My family knows this.

There are quite a few younger people here, and yes they are idealists. But admit it, you had to have been just before you were shipped out. Life will put them in their place.

In the mean time, realize that what you went through oh so many years ago was generous, but does not entitle you to the world.

By the way, I supported Bush, and, although admittedly I am a redneck, my nearly perfect college GPA might disagree with your claim that we are "undereducated" (uneducated).

So yeah...

My neighbor actually voted for Bush becuase he wanted the economy to stay bad, so his interest rates would be lower.


Ha ha ha! Does he know that the bad economy cannot sustain low rates forever?

True conservativism died with Ike. The latter 20th century saw them embrace a religious agenda that does not reflect true republican ideals (civil rights, free trade).

Ha ha ha! Does he know that the bad economy cannot sustain low rates forever?

Depends on the definition of 'low.' Japan's rates are always much lower than ours...

I would proudly serve my country right alongside my brother if i wasnt asthmatic, i will fight for a cause worth fighting for. Now before you say Iraq isnt a worthy cause, think of going there and telling a iraqi child that his freedom isnt worth fighting for because he's not american. If you can do it then you can criticize the war, if you cant then your a hypocrit.


You realize your stupidity made him leave? You and I have no right to speak for a war. Neithier one of us have any idea of what it was like.

And that spoiled piece of shit in the white house definetly can't.

Hmm. Not necessarily. It would depend upon his actual rank, his years of service, whether he was still eligible for promotion, his physical condition, and whether he had reached the mandatory retirement age. Even then, if he was considered "an asset to the service," they could allow an exemption for age.

He's a Sergeant, thats a field officers rank if he is in Afghanistan. Retirement age for a low field rank is around 40. If he fought in Vietnam and his brother is ten years younger then him, that would make him 50 now.