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I think i'll divert the attention from politics a moment for a question.

Is there any super hero who could take superman one on one? I mean supermans a god right?

The only one i can think of is superwomen. mainly cause she is hot.

For the comic book people out there. who did superman face in marvel vs dc? was it the hulk? what happened?

Spiderman could take him. All he would have to do is find Superman's weakness and exploit it. Plus, Spiderman is impossible to kill.

Superman's the meta-powergaming ideal of superheroism. Nobody can beat him because he'll twink his way out of anything. I hate him.

Superman's the meta-powergaming ideal of superheroism. Nobody can beat him because he'll twink his way out of anything. I hate him.
You hate him because he is smart? Wow, that is a huge statement about yourself, no joking on you but wow.

How could spiderman beat him? Spiderman being mortal. His spider sences would be no match for supermans super speed and strength. Spider man would never know what hit him.

You hate him because he is smart? Wow, that is a huge statement about yourself, no joking on you but wow.

Nowhere did I say anything about his intelligence. I hate him because he really has no weakness - it's some damn rock from a planet that exploded. Everything else in the universe he can handle, though. -_- Other superheroes at least have a more accessbile weakness.

Hal Jordan as Green Lantern could take him, I mean look at it, the guy wents nuts, killed the entire GL corps (all 3,400 of them), wiped the floor with the JSA and the JLA, beat the crap out of Kyle Rainer, Alan Scott and Guy Gardener. Then went backwards in time to confront himself! After all that he dove into the sun to re-ignite it and save the galaxy, became the Spectre and is now on his way back to being GL again! Plus the power ring is described as "the most powerful weapon ever created, its power is only limited by the will of the bearer."

How could spiderman beat him? Spiderman being mortal. His spider sences would be no match for supermans super speed and strength. Spider man would never know what hit him.

With that, I refer you to this comic strip: http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-07-16&res=l

At the end of Dark Knight Batman beat Superman. Also, that guy who keeps hitting harder with each punch beat Superman so bad that 'everyone' thought he was dead.

It seems that Martian ManHunter would stand a pretty good chance of taking it to Superman, they have similar powers but then Martian ManHunter has those mental and phasing abilities. If we where to cross publishers, I would say that Dr. Strange since Superman is vulnerable to magic.

Superman started out to be much more like The Hulk, but over time writers kept pilling on powers. Too bad really....

Hal Jordan as Green Lantern could take him, I mean look at it, the guy wents nuts, killed the entire GL corps (all 3,400 of them), wiped the floor with the JSA and the JLA, beat the crap out of Kyle Rainer, Alan Scott and Guy Gardener. Then went backwards in time to confront himself! After all that he dove into the sun to re-ignite it and save the galaxy, became the Spectre and is now on his way back to being GL again! Plus the power ring is described as "the most powerful weapon ever created, its power is only limited by the will of the bearer."
Oh right, and Green Lantern. These characters are why I never really related to the DC books...uber-power just never seemed all that compelling.

Onslaught.

All you need to beat Superman is kryptonite and a bit of cunning. You just need to pretend to be on his side, then when his back is turned, shoot him with a kryptonite tipped bullet.

Superman's the meta-powergaming ideal of superheroism. Nobody can beat him because he'll twink his way out of anything. I hate him.
Superman is a power house, nota thinker. He is of average intelligence. Many comic book characters could out think him.

Superman is a power house, nota thinker. He is of average intelligence. Many comic book characters could out think him.

This is the second time I've been misread. Are people not seeing "twink" in there? Did I accidentally type "think" instead? I meant it in the way that Superman's player always seems to roll natural 20s.

This is the second time I've been misread. Are people not seeing "twink" in there? Did I accidentally type "think" instead? I meant it in the way that Superman's player always seems to roll natural 20s.
Ah, you can't assume that comic book readers, or people prone to commenting on the most recognizable comic book hero, are also hard core gamers that would recognize your terminology.

Ah, you can't assume that comic book readers, or people prone to commenting on the most recognizable comic book hero, are also hard core gamers that would recognize your terminology.

I was actually working on the assumptions that people would read it as "twink" and not "think" and that they'd ask or look it up if they didn't get it. Honestly, I've heard the term from quite a few people, so I probably had the misunderstanding that it was at least somewhat known. My apologies for that.

Probably any one of those space superheros like silver surfer could be him if they got him away from the sun, the source of his power.

If Adamantium can pierce Superman's flesh, then all Wolverine needs is one good swipe.

Somebody already mentioned Dr. Strange.

Then there's Professor Xavier. He could switch off Superman's mind like a switch.

SOmebody already mentioned Green Lantern too.

Um... Galactus...Phoenix...Possibly Thanos.

I bet Silver Surfer would give him a run for his money.

Magneto maybe. Thor possibly.

I've heard that Darkseid could do it.

There are quite a few beings that when properly motivated could do him in.

Probably any one of those space superheros like silver surfer could be him if they got him away from the sun, the source of his power.
Oooh! Silver Surfer! Good call. The Surfer is the only mega-power character I've ever dug, mostly because his main conflict was always "I really don't want to do this."

I was actually working on the assumptions that people would read it as "twink" and not "think" and that they'd ask or look it up if they didn't get it. Honestly, I've heard the term from quite a few people, so I probably had the misunderstanding that it was at least somewhat known. My apologies for that.
I had never heard the term, but your right, he is extraordinarily lucky.

The ass. :)

Hyperon marvels mock-counterpart of superman might be able to take him they seem to have the same strength, speed, inteligence, and enhanced senses. That said I think Superman is more durable, but Hyperon's "Flash Vision" seems to be stronger than Supermans heat rays.

for christ sakes, superman is a comic strip character. who cares who can fucking kill him or not!

Get a life

for christ sakes, superman is a comic strip character. who cares who can fucking kill him or not!

Get a life

Comic fans care, duh.

for christ sakes, superman is a comic strip character. who cares who can fucking kill him or not!

Get a life
Flamebait.

Go away.

for christ sakes, superman is a comic strip character. who cares who can fucking kill him or not!

Get a life

What would rather have us do? Spend our day pining over Kerry's loss or congratulating ourselves over Dubya's big day?

Sorry, I'm not that masochistic. :p

Another good super hero to take down Superman: Character Development Man.

Another good super hero to take down Superman: Character Development Man.


Ooh, ouch.

Kryptoman. The super hero made entirely of Kryptonite who can eat the sun.
His terrible weakness is that he's bad with ladies.

Depth is over-rated.

There is one person who has been overlooked in this: Mr. Mxyzptlk! He is actually extremly powerful and would probably be able to kill Superman, if he wanted to. Mr. Mxyzptlk won't kill Superman outright however, as he sees himself as being involved in a game of wits, not in a fight as such.

Ok I've been out of the comic book loop for awhile now but didn't that Doomsday guy kill Superman?
I know he somehow came back to life and turned into Lightning Superman, but still isn't that the only guy that can kill him?

Superman is one of my least-favourite superheroes, simply because there are no real grounds to relate to him. He doesn't really gel with the real world. He doesn't have a real human aspect to him, he just shows up with his super powers and doesn't have to deal with any real flaws at all. Oh, sure, he's allergic to kryptonite, but that's like a superhero having pinkeye. It's not a conflict and it does nothing for his character.

Superman is one of my least-favourite superheroes, simply because there are no real grounds to relate to him. He doesn't really gel with the real world. He doesn't have a real human aspect to him, he just shows up with his super powers and doesn't have to deal with any real flaws at all. Oh, sure, he's allergic to kryptonite, but that's like a superhero having pinkeye. It's not a conflict and it does nothing for his character.
This really speaks to the quality of a superhero and why I don't think it matters where spiderman's webs come from.

The theme doesn't make the character, nor the level of the power that the character welds, it is the conflict that the character encounters, the problems inherent in thier existance that makes them compelling. This is what makes Spiderman one of the best superheros in existance. It's not his 'spider theme,' it's the conflict that the character has, the burdon of his uncle, the 'great power, great responsability.' That Spiderman has to be spiderman-that his life would be better if he was not. Likewise, Batman is a character with an ingrained conflict, a burdon to carry.

Superman can have these conflicts, and I believe some writers may have tapped that well (though I haven't read any because I don't read Superman). He is the last, (or what, second to last?) of his kind-he is an orphaned being who has chosen to protect his adopted land. But there is no denying he is alone. How much of his loyalty does the Earth deserve? How beholden is he to a population that is not him, not on his level. There is a great speech at the end of Kill Bill II that talks about Superman is always Superman, only pretending to be Clark Kent rather than the other way around for the other heros. There is something compelling within Superman that could be tapped-but me, I want the characters riddled with conflict.

Batman's managed it. Green Lantern could do it. And Superman has, for the most part, mostly been helpless before anyone with serious mental powers.

Unless Superman Changed drastically over the years, I have a list of all who could beat him.

DC:
Green Lantern
Batman
Wonder Woman
Lex Luthor
(Sorry don't read too much DC comics)

Marvel:
Dr Fate
Onslaught
Professor X
Guardian (Shi'ar Guardsman)
Phoenix (any of em)
Hulk (Old Greenie... "the Madder Hulk Gets, The Stronger Hulk Gets!"
Thanos
Psylock (British incarnation)
Storm
Darkstar
Cloak
Husk
(the list goes on.)

Yeah no life...that's me.