NationStates Jolt Archive


Bush FAQ Thread

Ramissle
03-11-2004, 21:13
Being sick and tired of all the Bush Bashing that has been going on for the past 4 years, and likely for the next 4, I have decided to create a thread that stamps out the so called "truths" Bush haters have been putting out there.

First of all, in the last election, Bush Bashers say that the George tried to cheat in Florida. A couple little facts there:
1. The early projections did NOT say that Bush won in Florida, rather that Gore did.
2. Gore concided defeat in Florida. Since when is the other side surrendering cheating?

And for this election:
1. George Bush won the popular vote AND electoral vote. Where people are getting the idea that only 1/6 of the nation voted for Bush is beyond me, as he got over 50 percent of the popular vote.
2. Nothing here yet

If any of you Bush Bashers have any questions, please feel free to ask them so I can smash your theorys to bits.
Ramissle
03-11-2004, 21:22
bump
Markodonia
03-11-2004, 21:22
I could deal with the rest, but I can't be bothered, and I'm sure others will quite sufficiently. However:


1. George Bush won the popular vote AND electoral vote. Where people are getting the idea that only 1/6 of the nation voted for Bush is beyond me

About 60% of Americans voted in the elections.

A little over 50% of those who voted, voted for Bush.

Hence, around 30% of Americans voted for Bush...more than 1/6, but a considerably minority!

...that's a pretty pathetic excuse for a mandate. Then again, it's better than most governments get in my native UK sadly.
Ramissle
03-11-2004, 21:25
This was the largest voter turnout in decades however. So, still why complain about how many voted? I see that you are right about the 30% thing, but last time I checked 100% divided by 30% doesn't equal 6....
TJHairball
03-11-2004, 21:26
Actually, with a population of 300 million and ~59 million votes, about 20%. More like one fifth than one sixth.
Hakartopia
03-11-2004, 21:29
Question: Has Bush found The One Ring yet?
Macrosolid
03-11-2004, 21:29
Ya, but that 300 million also includes children.

Bush won the majority of registered voters.
Ramissle
03-11-2004, 21:31
Question: Has Bush found The One Ring yet?
Hardy Har Har. So very original!
I swear these left wingers are getting out of control.
And where are the RUMURS about Bush? I can't stamp out a joke.
Hakartopia
03-11-2004, 21:35
Hardy Har Har. So very original!
I swear these left wingers are getting out of control.
And where are the RUMURS about Bush? I can't stamp out a joke.

Oh come on, show some humour.

http://www.darkeye.net/~fredrik/fun/bush_one_ring_to_rule_them_all.jpg
Chess Squares
03-11-2004, 21:36
the ring is in his office in a case next to saddham's gun
Ramissle
03-11-2004, 21:37
Yes, his wedding ring is the One Ring. Of course.
Funny, last time I checked blondes didn't laugh at blonde jokes and Jewish people didn't laugh at jewish jokes.
Markodonia
03-11-2004, 21:39
Ya, but that 300 million also includes children.

Bush won the majority of registered voters.

The "turnout" refers to the proportion of registered voters who "turned out" to vote.
Squi
03-11-2004, 21:44
Yes, his wedding ring is the One Ring. Of course.
Funny, last time I checked blondes didn't laugh at blonde jokes and Jewish people didn't laugh at jewish jokes.Huh? Last time I checked, almost the blond jokes I've heard I've heard from blonds. Likewise most Jews I know find well constructed Jewish jokes humourous.
Satica
03-11-2004, 21:45
bush sucks....hes starting war for no reason...and with no evidence. Hes a rich asshole who only cares about...rich...white...straight americans and totally ignores anyone else...He doesnt even care about the poor boys lives that hes putting into battle for no reason. Sure they picked to be in the army...but to defend their country not to fight for some idiot whos fallowing in his fathers footsteps. And where in the world in BINLADDEN??...Yah totally forgot about him when they couldnt find him in iraq...wait till he puts another attack on american then hell kno that hes wrong!!!!!!!!!!


thank u

SATICA
Whest and Kscul
03-11-2004, 21:46
The main reason we had the largest turnout of voters was not because of organizations and people getting people to vote. There were more first-time voters than ever before... You have to looks at the rate of increase in voters, not the population, mainly because the U.S. grows in population... :rolleyes: ...

I'm a "Bush-basher." I used not not really get involved in politics, but after some research (Especially on Fox, but I was told later that some of their information isn't valid).... but mostly from the reactions I go from Bush voters:

"Kerry's policies are phony. Bush has created more jobs than any other president, he's better."

-His policies are very similar to Bush's on moral and economical issues. The differences aren't radical, how could someone truly choose which one has better policies? Kerry beats Bush for increasing the defecit (I don't know how much), while Bush beats Kerry for announcing his policies as a threat to the economy. What??? :confused:... Both are hyprocrites...http://zfacts.com/p/531.html ....hmmm....

"Bush has a much better hold on the war. He can beat dem' terrorists."

http://www.costofwar.com/ ... interesting...I thought wars were free! :D... I think, whichever president was to be elected, should have pulled out of Iraq. And that's just this war.. look at this http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,121086,00.html...*Ick*
Sdaeriji
03-11-2004, 21:47
Actually, with a population of 300 million and ~59 million votes, about 20%. More like one fifth than one sixth.

According to the US Census Bureau, the United States has 216 million people of voting age. According to the New York Times, about 58 million voted for Bush. That's 27%. Kerry got about 55 million votes. That's 25%. Just barely one quarter of the United States voted for Bush.
Whest and Kscul
03-11-2004, 21:51
Yes, his wedding ring is the One Ring. Of course.
Funny, last time I checked blondes didn't laugh at blonde jokes and Jewish people didn't laugh at jewish jokes.

What the hell was that? I'm Jewish, I laugh at "Jewish" jokes all the time (I think you ment Jew jokes, which are different, but you apparently called us jewish people, did you know we also can put an "s" after Jew and make it plural?)...Bible totin' no-thin'...
Ramissle
03-11-2004, 21:54
bush sucks....hes starting war for no reason...and with no evidence. Hes a rich asshole who only cares about...rich...white...straight americans and totally ignores anyone else...He doesnt even care about the poor boys lives that hes putting into battle for no reason. Sure they picked to be in the army...but to defend their country not to fight for some idiot whos fallowing in his fathers footsteps. And where in the world in BINLADDEN??...Yah totally forgot about him when they couldnt find him in iraq...wait till he puts another attack on american then hell kno that hes wrong!!!!!!!!!!


thank u

SATICA


Yes, I can see how some idiots may see that point,but let us smarter people think. Who is richer than George Bush? Could it be, KERRY? And, who is even richer than Kerry? May be, HIS WIFE!
Northern Gimpland
03-11-2004, 21:57
Being sick and tired of all the Bush Bashing that has been going on for the past 4 years, and likely for the next 4, I have decided to create a thread that stamps out the so called "truths" Bush haters have been putting out there.

First of all, in the last election, Bush Bashers say that the George tried to cheat in Florida. A couple little facts there:
1. The early projections did NOT say that Bush won in Florida, rather that Gore did.
2. Gore concided defeat in Florida. Since when is the other side surrendering cheating?

And for this election:
1. George Bush won the popular vote AND electoral vote. Where people are getting the idea that only 1/6 of the nation voted for Bush is beyond me, as he got over 50 percent of the popular vote.
2. Nothing here yet

If any of you Bush Bashers have any questions, please feel free to ask them so I can smash your theorys to bits.

OK, here's my theory:

PREVENTING voters from voting is considered cheating, regardless of what Al Gore said. Especially when the absolute majority vote Democratically. Having your brother as the Governor for Florida, the state you need to win, is an unfair advantage.

Anyway, regardless of how he got elected, it doesn't matter. What DOES matter is that he is a fucked up President. I mean, when the below average person gets a tax cut of $100 per year, and the rich get a tax cut of $38,000 a year, when you invade a country for "terroism" issues to find that there is no link between them and Osama Bin Laden, when you lie to invade that country, when you refuse to ask WHY September 11 happened in the first place and to prevent it you cause more anguish and anger, when you plunge your country into a trillion-dollar deficit by going to the moon pointlessly, etc etc etc.......

You've fucked up your country. Congratulations.
Sussudio
03-11-2004, 21:57
Here are some FAQs you might answer?

1. Where are the WMD's.
2. In April 2003, Tommy Franks said that by Sept. 2003, there would be 30,000 troops in Iraq. Why are there 138,000 troops there now?
3. Why hasn't the CIA released the report on 9/11 that it finished in June?
4. How has Iraq become safer, when there is a sharp rise in militant, fundamentalist activity?
5. Why has the IRS audit rate for the working class poor increased during the Bush Administration, while the audit rate at the corporate level decreased.
6. Why has Bush all but ignored EPA suggestions for water purity, air pollution, and other contaminants?
7. Why did Bush say that there are "nearly 100,000 fully trained and equipped Iraqi soldiers, police officers, and other security personnel are working today" when only 53,000 have received any training, and of those only 8000 have recieved the whole 8 week course?
Ramissle
03-11-2004, 21:58
What the hell was that? I'm Jewish, I laugh at "Jewish" jokes all the time (I think you ment Jew jokes, which are different, but you apparently called us jewish people, did you know we also can put an "s" after Jew and make it plural?)...Bible totin' no-thin'...
Sorry, I did mean Jew jokes.
Whest and Kscul
03-11-2004, 21:58
Yes, I can see how some idiots may see that point,but let us smarter people think. Who is richer than George Bush? Could it be, KERRY? And, who is even richer than Kerry? May be, HIS WIFE!

I thought you were going to beat our theories into the ground. That's statement is just as radical and random as Satica's.
Whest and Kscul
03-11-2004, 21:59
Sorry, I did mean Jew jokes.

Oh god, you apologized? Damit now I feel guilty :( ...
Ramissle
03-11-2004, 22:00
That wasnt a theory. That was an idiotic post, which did not make any sense. I am looking for an educated theory to "smash into the ground".
Ramissle
03-11-2004, 22:10
OK, here's my theory:

PREVENTING voters from voting is considered cheating, regardless of what Al Gore said. Especially when the absolute majority vote Democratically. Having your brother as the Governor for Florida, the state you need to win, is an unfair advantage.

Anyway, regardless of how he got elected, it doesn't matter. What DOES matter is that he is a fucked up President. I mean, when the below average person gets a tax cut of $100 per year, and the rich get a tax cut of $38,000 a year, when you invade a country for "terroism" issues to find that there is no link between them and Osama Bin Laden, when you lie to invade that country, when you refuse to ask WHY September 11 happened in the first place and to prevent it you cause more anguish and anger, when you plunge your country into a trillion-dollar deficit by going to the moon pointlessly, etc etc etc.......

You've fucked up your country. Congratulations.

First of all, the finds that their was no connection between Iraq and Osama is simplysomething that could not be expected. Kerry would have done the same thing. Faulty intelligence is not a reason to bash someones judjment. If you were President, and you received a report that you suspected to be true, would you use it as a basis to go to war? Of course you would. As for the tax cuts, if you had 15 dollars, and the guy next to you had 5, you would recieve the same percentage as a tax cut, but not the same amount. Obviously, if you disagree with this you hate money.
Conceptualists
03-11-2004, 22:46
First of all, the finds that their was no connection between Iraq and Osama is simplysomething that could not be expected.

Yeah, I mean, how were we meant to know that a fundementalist Muslim and a secularist didn't have links.