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how does Bush make it so horrible for the rest of the world?
oh please make a topic about that, it needs one! "bush's foreign policy" it should be called.. but i'm not in a debating mood tonight.

By request. Here you can debate Bush's foreign policy as the title says.
Have at it.

What foreign policy? You mean the clown posse in the UN? The strongarming of other countries into their so-called "coalition"? The overthrowing of governments? The selective support of dictatorships where it's opportune? The human rights violations? Guantanamo Bay and the violations of various laws/constitutions not just of the US but of other countries? The openly imperialistic activity of the US and the mastermind behind it, the "PNAC"?

The US are an evil cancer spreading over the world. Now instead of the "evil communists from the East" we get the "evil capitalists from the West". I am unhappy and enraged about the US.

What foreign policy? You mean the clown posse in the UN? The strongarming of other countries into their so-called "coalition"? The overthrowing of governments? The selective support of dictatorships where it's opportune? The human rights violations? Guantanamo Bay and the violations of various laws/constitutions not just of the US but of other countries? The openly imperialistic activity of the US and the mastermind behind it, the "PNAC"?

The US are an evil cancer spreading over the world. Now instead of the "evil communists from the East" we get the "evil capitalists from the West". I am unhappy and enraged about the US.
Yes.

Bump

There's not much really more to be said is there?

Perhaps bets on when the next war will be, anyone?

There's not much really more to be said is there?

Perhaps bets on when the next war will be, anyone?
Within the next 4 year.

In my opinion, Bush won because his foreign policy complies nicely with the 'cold war-esque' view of the world many Americans still maintain. Afghanistan and more specifically, Saddam's Iraq provided them with an enemy clear and distict that you could locate on a map[/I, which unfortunately, pretty much misses the real enemy- terrorists. The greatest challenge posed by terrorists is not nuclear weapons or whatever firepower they actually have, but the question of 'who actually is a terrorist?". Is is anyone who merely hates America, is it someone who makes unusually large monetary purposes? And even harder to answer once you've miraculously managed to answer these questions is "why are they a terrorist?". Religion?- there are plenty of fundamentalists around the world, not least of which being 70 million or so in the US (evangelist Christians). They're not terrorists, against the US or whoever.

The scariest thing about 9/11 was that despite having the firepower to completely depopulate the planet, America was virtually powerless to stop 19 idiot fanatics getting on planes and striking at what should have been a completely secure city. But unfortunately Bush, and his supporters have not been able to fundamentally recognize the true enemy, and as I said previously, have attempted to compensate for this with other, more easily definable enemies, such as Saddam.

Instead of continuing to build upon the world-wide coalition that could have greatly augmented America's abilty not only to deal with physically, but [I]identify terrorists and/or their intentions, GWB's America has greatly isolated much of the post-9/11 goodwill that it enjoyed.

Another possible reason for doing this: attempting to replace 'osama' with 'saddam' because he is an easier enemy to combat, the Bush administration (dominated by "neo-conservatives" such as Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and others) attempted to use the post 9/11 environment- which to many in the administration came as a sad event, but incredibly useful opportunity- to implement goals outlined in the PNAC (see the link below).

The result: borderline imperialism (sorry "US global leadership")

In my opinion, Bush won because his foreign policy complies nicely with the 'cold war-esque' view of the world many Americans still maintain. Afghanistan and more specifically, Saddam's Iraq provided them with an enemy clear and distict that you could locate on a map[/I, which unfortunately, pretty much misses the real enemy- terrorists. The greatest challenge posed by terrorists is not nuclear weapons or whatever firepower they actually have, but the question of 'who actually is a terrorist?". Is is anyone who merely hates America, is it someone who makes unusually large monetary purposes? And even harder to answer once you've miraculously managed to answer these questions is "why are they a terrorist?". Religion?- there are plenty of fundamentalists around the world, not least of which being 70 million or so in the US (evangelist Christians). They're not terrorists, against the US or whoever.

The scariest thing about 9/11 was that despite having the firepower to completely depopulate the planet, America was virtually powerless to stop 19 idiot fanatics getting on planes and striking at what should have been a completely secure city. But unfortunately Bush, and his supporters have not been able to fundamentally recognize the true enemy, and as I said previously, have attempted to compensate for this with other, more easily definable enemies, such as Saddam.

Instead of continuing to build upon the world-wide coalition that could have greatly augmented America's abilty not only to deal with physically, but [I]identify terrorists and/or their intentions, GWB's America has greatly isolated much of the post-9/11 goodwill that it enjoyed.

Another possible reason for doing this: attempting to replace 'osama' with 'saddam' because he is an easier enemy to combat, the Bush administration (dominated by "neo-conservatives" such as Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and others) attempted to use the post 9/11 environment- which to many in the administration came as a sad event, but incredibly useful opportunity- to implement goals outlined in the PNAC (see the link below).

The result: borderline imperialism (sorry "US global leadership")
Excellent post.

Many thanks

I'm writing an exam on it in a couple of weeks, so I hope I can remember all of it.

Perhaps bets on when the next war will be, anyone?I was under the impression Iran was next.