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So I opened the Washington Post web site to glance at the headlines... And real big at the top:

"Bush Wins Second Term!"

Lower down, a bit smaller:

"GOP Keeps Control of Senate"

And then, below that, so small you almost wouldn't notice it...

"Same Sex Marriage Bans Succeed"

... it reads much more like a logical progression of events than coincidence. Am I the only one who feels like they're living in a dystopian movie? I'm suddenly very, very afraid.

So I opened the Washington Post web site to glance at the headlines... And real big at the top:

"Bush Wins Second Term!"

Lower down, a bit smaller:

"GOP Keeps Control of Senate"

And then, below that, so small you almost wouldn't notice it...

"Same Sex Marriage Bans Succeed"

... am I the only one who suddenly feels like their living in a dystopian movie? I'm suddenly very, very afraid.
It's a sad day for America. It's one thing for the Republicans to be happy about keeping the presidency and picking up Congressional seats, but the way they gloat over banning gay marriage in 11 states really gets under my skin.

So I opened the Washington Post web site to glance at the headlines... And real big at the top:

"Bush Wins Second Term!"

Lower down, a bit smaller:

"GOP Keeps Control of Senate"

And then, below that, so small you almost wouldn't notice it...

"Same Sex Marriage Bans Succeed"

... am I the only one who suddenly feels like their living in a dystopian movie? I'm suddenly very, very afraid.
I presume by your tone you are one of those who only believe the majority is right if they agree with you?Do you believe that we should live in a dictatorship?Or do you agree that the majority has the right to determine events?

I presume by your tone you are one of those who only believe the majority is right if they agree with you?Do you believe that we should live in a dictatorship?Or do you agree that the majority has the right to determine events?
You do the exact same thing. Shut up.

*yawn*

Its a good thing they did ban it. At least we know some states have still have SOME sense.

Oh - and this Bush issue is getting very old now. Why don't you talk about more important issues, like how you can help integrate China further into the world community?

BTW - 4 MORE YEARS!!! IN YOUR FACE DEMOCRATS

I presume by your tone you are one of those who only believe the majority is right if they agree with you??
Doesn't everyone think like that?

So, you don't like the headlines? Don't read them.
You want people to be told, what and how to do things? Join the military.
You don't want the people to have the ability to choose on their own? Leave, and go live in a 3rd world country somewhere.

Just because YOU think one way, does not mean WE think the same way. For it is apparent that WE the people wanted what you might appear to opoose. Get with modernization!

You do the exact same thing. Shut up.
You are typical. My post was non hostile. I simply noted what appeared to be someone despairing over the fact that a majority(overwhelmingly so in the same sex marriage issues might I add) of Americans had made their voice clear.You do not know me, so hardly can jump to the conclusion I "do too". In fact, as with most of what you say, this is inaccurate as well. Like it or not, I have always accepted an election as the voice of the people, a voice I believe in being heard, a voice I have spent my adult life guaranteeing will be heard.

So, you don't like the headlines? Don't read them.
You want people to be told, what and how to do things? Join the military.
You don't want the people to have the ability to choose on their own? Leave, and go live in a 3rd world country somewhere.

Just because YOU think one way, does not mean WE think the same way. For it is apparent that WE the people wanted what you might appear to opoose. Get with modernization!
Yeah, and if you don't like it Chodolo, flee like all the liberals have been threatening, otherwise, stay, and lets heal this schism in the country. Congratulations Obama! , Congratulations Thune!

Yeah, and if you don't like it Chodolo, flee like all the liberals have been threatening, otherwise, stay, and lets heal this schism in the country. Congratulations Obama! , Congratulations Thune!
Very well said.

You are typical. My post was non hostile. I simply noted what appeared to be someone despairing over the fact that a majority(overwhelmingly so in the same sex marriage issues might I add) of Americans had made their voice clear.You do not know me, so hardly can jump to the conclusion I "do too". In fact, as with most of what you say, this is inaccurate as well. Like it or not, I have always accepted an election as the voice of the people, a voice I believe in being heard, a voice I have spent my adult life guaranteeing will be heard.
So then you're perfectly okay with the majority of Americans supporting abortion?

the majority of people who cared enough to vote got exactly what they wanted.

It is, however, a sad day for the rest of the world.

So then you're perfectly okay with the majority of Americans supporting abortion?
I do not see a majority of Americans supporting it. If so, I am ok with it actually. I do see the majority of Americans(myself included)thinking it is not the governments place to regulate it, if that changed, yes, I support them, whichever direction, and regardless of my own personal beliefs(I believe it is wrong)

the majority of people who cared enough to vote got exactly what they wanted.

It is, however, a sad day for the rest of the world.
No, only for those in the world who would wish harm to the US.

So then you're perfectly okay with the majority of Americans supporting abortion?

Actually abortion has never been put to a vote, to my knowledge, it was a supreme court desision, Roe v. Wade, that has set the current legal standard on that issue. I would hope that given the option americans would vote to end abortions of conviniance. I believe exceptions must be made in the cases of rape, incest, where the health of the mother is in question, and in certain cases when there are going to be serious life threatening genetic defects in the child.

But this is neither here nor there as far as the subject of this thread is concerned.

BTW - 4 MORE YEARS!!! IN YOUR FACE DEMOCRATS
Oops, misread that. Thought it said 'democracy'. Oh well, close enough.

I do not see a majority of Americans supporting it. If so, I am ok with it actually. I do see the majority of Americans(myself included)thinking it is not the governments place to regulate it, if that changed, yes, I support them, whichever direction, and regardless of my own personal beliefs(I believe it is wrong)
Why would you support something that you didn't think wAs right?

The headlines are frightening.
Not because bush won,
but because he is still here.
remember, technically he never won to begin with.
and even putting that aside, if he won the american majority vote, it is because the american majority is either ignorant, or blindly faithful.
Which, of course, we already knew.

The headlines are frightening.
Not because bush won,
but because he is still here.
remember, technically he never won to begin with.
and even putting that aside, if he won the american majority vote, it is because the american majority is either ignorant, or blindly faithful.
Which, of course, we already knew.

Thats about the most ignorant post I've read. you're calling americans ignorant for voting for Bush when your own post shows blatent ignorance of the way the american political/legal system works. To quote the Constitution:

The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed...

Notice it says the majority of the Electors, not majority of the people or popular vote. So by the laws of the United States of America, and by reafirming declaration of the Supreme Court, George W. Bush was duely elected in 2000 to be the legal president of the United States of America. And now in 2004 a majority of the Electors have again decided to retain him in office, the only difference from 2000 being that the popular vote also affirms the confidence of the american people in this president (51% the first president sense 1988 to win the majority of the popular vote I might add).

The 'he never won in the first place' argument was, and is, a very childish, and ignorant argument. Will you please move on now?

Whoa! I dunno where that hostility came from. I was just making an observation.

Purely for the record, democracy doesn't mean the majority is right any more than a dictatorship means the dictator is always right. It just means you do what the majority says. And right now, I feel that is very, very wrong.

Bush won. That's great. A leader with vision has stepped up, and America has answered. Maybe America will move forward. As for democracy being trampled; that's a lie. The people spoke and Republicans won.

I'm from Canada it is not a sad day for the rest of the world (Actually in terms of national interest Canada is better off with Bush as some of Kerry's policies were detrimental to Canadian economics).

So then you're perfectly okay with the majority of Americans supporting abortion?

Actually, the American people didn't get to decide about abortion. The Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional to have State laws that banned it. So, in a way, the majority of Americans were against abortion because practically every State prohibited it, but had it thrust upon them. It should have been a State rights issue and put to a referendum, like the gay marriage issue. If the people of that state don't want it, well that's tough shit.

So, you don't like the headlines? Don't read them.
You want people to be told, what and how to do things? Join the military.
You don't want the people to have the ability to choose on their own? Leave, and go live in a 3rd world country somewhere.

Just because YOU think one way, does not mean WE think the same way. For it is apparent that WE the people wanted what you might appear to opoose. Get with modernization!


Yes, I forgot. Banning the right to marry who you love is modern. The lisence should be legal and why does a marriage have to be recognized by god to be legal. Modern would be evolving into a seperation of church and state. Lest we forget that the constitution was built with a pen in one hand and the bible in another. We're born into it. No matter if we go to a 3rd or stay in the US someone, somewhere will not be happy.