Best thing about Bush win
Monokultur
03-11-2004, 18:16
I didn't care much for Bush. But what is great about his win is how much it must really *hurt* his opponents. Bush is now completely legitimized. No more "selected not elected" jibes from the likes of Michael Moore.
Also, Daschle is finished - and good riddance to him. And eleven states passing gay marriage bans. That is excellent news and shows America to be an esstentially conservative country. Well done.
Just think about how all the hollywood liberal activists must feel today, and all the Europeans who told us not to vote for Bush. I almost feel sorry for them, but not quite. :D
Oh, I almost forgot, Stephistan, you must have an awful headache this morning. :p
Salchicho
03-11-2004, 18:18
I didn't care much for Bush. But what is great about his win is how much it must really *hurt* his opponents. Bush is now completely legitimized. No more "selected not elected" jibes from the likes of Michael Moore.
Also, Daschle is finished - and good riddance to him. And eleven states passing gay marriage bans. That is excellent news and shows America to be an esstentially conservative country. Well done.
Just think about how all the hollywood liberal activists must feel today, and all the Europeans who told us not to vote for Bush. I almost feel sorry for them, but not quite. :D
Oh, I almost forgot, Stephistan, you must have an awful headache this morning. :p
I completly agree with this post. I expect it will be locked very soon. Enjoy our day in the sun, cuz th liberal clouds are swooping in to try and hide the fact that the American Electorate rejected the Lefts hatred of America.
The Democrat part is dying.
TheOneRule
03-11-2004, 18:23
Prove it, asshole.
You may vehemently disagree with his sentiments, however name calling like that does nothing to advance your point.
I just blame the people who voted for Bush, not the people who didn't vote ;)
Jordaxia
03-11-2004, 18:24
Also, Daschle is finished - and good riddance to him. And eleven states passing gay marriage bans. That is excellent news and shows America to be an esstentially conservative country. Well done.
Can I just ask, what is good about banning gay marriage? And what is good about being a conservative nation? I'm being serious in both of these questions.
La Terra di Liberta
03-11-2004, 18:24
The best thing is that someone won and the election is over as far as I'm concerned.
Semartica
03-11-2004, 18:25
No, democracy is dieing, period. Say hello to the "hidden cameras in every home" america and the "civil war" america. Keep the death and war coming, Bush, you're getting money!!!!!!!
Salchicho
03-11-2004, 18:25
I just blame the people who voted for Bush, not the people who didn't vote ;)
If you don't like the results, you shouldn't blame those on the other side, blame the ones too lazy or too ambivilant to vote.
Ice Hockey Players
03-11-2004, 18:33
The only good thing about Bush winning is that all you people who laughed at me when I guaranteed he would win, perhaps in a landslide (and this is about the closest thing to a landslide we could have had) can all eat it now. People telling me to be optimistic or whatever or how close it would be now see I had no reasong to be optimistic. Kerry had the election handed to him on a silver platter and he blew it. He could have torn Bush a new one campaigning and he didn't. He let Bush walk all over him and didnt respond. Here's to hoping the people of Massachusetts recall him or something, even if there's no Constitutional provisions for it..they should do it anyway. And we should burn Edwards for not being able to carry his home state. Him and Gore. But at least Gore fought it out.
The Democrat part is dying.
You must know nothing of politics. The Democrat and Republican parties have existed as the two main parties of America for more than 150 years, and they've changed considerably. Neither party will ever "die", they just evolve and find a new area. The Republican Party is gathering all religious people together under the banner of "traditional values" (read: thinly veiled homophobia and sexism). The Democrat Party is pulling social moderates and Libertarians away from the GOP who are irritated with their party's new authoritarian slant. As well, ethnic minorities grow in percentage each year while the white population slowly loses in dominance, hurting the GOP's base. It all goes back and forth.
Morotican
03-11-2004, 18:36
This thread defines polarisation.
And the left is right. ;)
La Terra di Liberta
03-11-2004, 18:36
Some of the people elected to the Senate on the Republican side are scary. So not only have the Democrats not won the Senate majority and the Republicans have but it's these extreme right wing ones winning. This could be an interesting 4 years.
BoomChakalaka
03-11-2004, 18:38
My favorite part is the crying. Sissy liberals are actually crying over this.
Oh yes, the sweet tears of defeat and anguish.
Galveston Bay
03-11-2004, 18:38
You must know nothing of politics. The Democrat and Republican parties have existed as the two main parties of America for more than 150 years, and they've changed considerably. Neither party will ever "die", they just evolve and find a new area. The Republican Party is gathering all religious people together under the banner of "traditional values" (read: thinly veiled homophobia and sexism). The Democrat Party is pulling social moderates and Libertarians away from the GOP who are irritated with their party's new authoritarian slant. As well, ethnic minorities grow in percentage each year while the white population slowly loses in dominance, hurting the GOP's base. It all goes back and forth.
Yep, absolutely right.... plus in 2 years, historical trends being what they are (for one thing, the trend of no sitting President losing the election in wartime apparently continues to run true) then the Democratic Party will take the House and Senate next time around.
Plus perhaps over the next three years the Democratic Party will find a candidate who is both competent and has charisma.
One thing still amuses me, if Bill Clinton had been running last night, or for that matter Ronald Reagan, don't you think it would have been a landslide against the non charismatic opponent. Bush butchers the English language, and Kerry converts a small point into a sermon.
Neither would have had a chance against Clinton or Reagan.
Reaganodia
03-11-2004, 18:41
I completly agree with this post. I expect it will be locked very soon. Enjoy our day in the sun, cuz th liberal clouds are swooping in to try and hide the fact that the American Electorate rejected the Lefts hatred of America.
The Democrat part is dying.
Where can I go to see the flaming wreckage of the Democrat Party and roast a marshmallow or two?
Snub Nose 38
03-11-2004, 18:41
Best thing about Bush win...
TERM LIMITS we can't be made to suffer for more than 4 more years
There is no banning of gay marriage. Gays have civil unions that cover their financial and insurance needs. Marriage is defined as a partnership between a Man and a Woman in some states. And that is a problem for gay activists and their gay agenda for America. I'm very happy that people have decided what they find acceptable in thier own communities. Democracy is a wonderful thing. The American people have spoken. Suck It Up Liberals!
BoomChakalaka
03-11-2004, 18:47
There is no banning of gay marriage. Gays have civil unions that cover their financial and insurance needs. Marriage is defined as a partnership between a Man and a Woman in some states. And that is a problem for gay activists and their gay agenda for America. I'm very happy that people have decided what they find acceptable in thier own communities. Democracy is a wonderful thing. The American people have spoken. Suck It Up Liberals!
Actually, many of the states that passed the ban on gay marriage also banned anything approximating it, forbade judges from ruling on cases between same-sex couples, and outlawed legal contracts between same-sex partners that emulated the property distribution benefits of marriage.
Essentially, Americans have created a separate class and stripped them of many property rights. I do hope this is stricken down.
Petsburg
03-11-2004, 18:48
At least it will be his last. :mad:
Husitania
03-11-2004, 18:51
I suppose there is a silver lining to every cloud, and the silver lining here is that the british media get to rip George Bush and his Bush-isms apart for another four years. Oh joy.
The Republican Party is gathering all religious people together under the banner of "traditional values" (read: thinly veiled homophobia and sexism). The Democrat Party is pulling social moderates and Libertarians away from the GOP who are irritated with their party's new authoritarian slant. As well, ethnic minorities grow in percentage each year while the white population slowly loses in dominance, hurting the GOP's base. It all goes back and forth.
Wow, you really are quite ignorant of the world aren't you? The REPUBLICAN party pulled in minorities this year, and the hispanic vote in Florida for Bush won that state for him. The REPUBLICAN party is finally getting the word out that every advance made for minorities, from freeing the slaves to giving them the right to vote was made for them by THE GOP! The democratic party is running further to the left, while social moderates are moving towards the GOP.
Not only that, but traditional values are not homophobic nor sexist, they are traditional. The value is on the family, man, woman, and children.
See you in four years when you are supporting the first woman to try to get elected under the campaign slogan "Look, do you really think my cheating slut of a husband was running the country for 8 years? 8 more years!" and loses to Guilliani and McCain.
I'm betting the call of the far left will be "we didn't even bother to count the votes last time because we would have been cheated again".
Eutrusca
03-11-2004, 18:57
Can I just ask, what is good about banning gay marriage? And what is good about being a conservative nation? I'm being serious in both of these questions.
I don't feel qualified ( no pun intended ) to address the question about gay marriage, but I can speak a bit to the one about a "conservative nation."
I don't consider myself to be a conservative, but I would rather die than be tagged as a "liberal" AS IT IS CURRENTLY DEFINED IN THE US. [ note emphasis ]
My own current support for SOME conservatives in America stems more from the fact that liberalism has come to represent the "something for nothing" crowd, who seem to want all the benefits of living in America without having any of the responsibilities.
Just my own two cents here.
Toast Coverings
03-11-2004, 19:00
I don't think a religious/personal view should affect a political decision and George Bush seems to allowed this to happen.
Also, to anyone who voted for Bush, do you have any consideration for the environment? Or will you just presume that doesn't concern you? Do you have any empathy for people who have lost mothers, fathers, children, due to the Iraq war?
Ice Hockey Players
03-11-2004, 19:11
At least it will be his last. :mad:
Not if he makes an attack on the 22nd Amendment...
Salchicho
03-11-2004, 19:14
Owens for president 2008!
Markreich
03-11-2004, 19:21
Not if he makes an attack on the 22nd Amendment...
Fortunately, there are two little details that prevent that:
1) The President cannot actually proposed to do it and
2) Even if he somehow did, he would be "grandfathered", in the same manner in which the Presidential pay raise isn't enjoyed until after the next election.
Markreich
03-11-2004, 19:22
Because we didn't have the uncertainty of the 2000 Election...
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Halloccia
03-11-2004, 19:22
The conspiracy theories are already coming out.... Bush attacking the 22nd Amandment? America not being a conservative nation? HAHAHAH WRONG ON BOTH ACCOUNTS! America has spoken. Conservatism won this election. Some of you may not like it, but more Americans do. Conservatism spawns prosperity with capitalism and traditional AMERICAN values/traditions.
I'm still waiting for people to say that Karl Rove made it rain on heavily Democratic areas to "supress" the vote. Kooks, where are you when we need a laugh? So far the left's posts have been great to read because they are serious about this election not mattering much or nothing will change much. Um, Supreme Court? Gay marriage bans in 11 states? America is showing the world its colors are those of CONSERVATISM!
Ok, leftys, go ahead and flame or try to "rationalize" this major defeat.
Eastern Coast America
03-11-2004, 19:23
Yay, bush won.
Now radical conservatives have finally taken over the entire goverment.
Great, so the rich people get richer, the poor people get poorer, and now were heading on a head on collision with a depression.
Were gonna be using oil for the next four years, and he won't even outlaw SUVs. So were gonna pour millions of dollars into oil rather than using alternate power source. He's gonna teach religeon in school, which is gonna suck, and he's gonna teach abstenence.
Therefore, teen pregnancy goes up, he brain washes the liberals, and he fills the supreme court with conservatives (like he said he did in his debate. "Strict interpts of the constitution".
I just love Bush. Really, I do.
I don't consider myself to be a conservative, but I would rather die than be tagged as a "liberal" AS IT IS CURRENTLY DEFINED IN THE US. [ note emphasis ]
No exaggeration, huh?
Cogitation
03-11-2004, 19:30
I didn't care much for Bush. But what is great about his win is how much it must really *hurt* his opponents. Bush is now completely legitimized. No more "selected not elected" jibes from the likes of Michael Moore.
Also, Daschle is finished - and good riddance to him. And eleven states passing gay marriage bans. That is excellent news and shows America to be an esstentially conservative country. Well done.
Just think about how all the hollywood liberal activists must feel today, and all the Europeans who told us not to vote for Bush. I almost feel sorry for them, but not quite. :D
Oh, I almost forgot, Stephistan, you must have an awful headache this morning. :p
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My favorite part is the crying. Sissy liberals are actually crying over this.
Oh yes, the sweet tears of defeat and anguish.
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