NationStates Jolt Archive

While you were re-electing a president:
Senator-elect Jim DeMint (http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/9888340.htm): Thinks that unwed pregnant women and gays are unfit to be schoolteachers.
Senator-elect Tom Coburn (http://www.fox23.com/news/state/story.aspx?content_id=BF956298-934E-4B30-B9D3-DC274E134AF4): Wants the death penalty for abortion doctors.
Senator-elect John Thune (http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/John_Thune_Education.htm): Mr. School Prayer Amendment.
Voters in 11 states voted to ban same-sex marriage (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/ballot.measures/). The lowest margin was 57%-43%. The highest (Mississippi) was 86%-14%. Kentucky's also bans civil unions (http://www.courier-journal.com/election/2004/ky/K1-gay1103-6582.html). That one was 75%-25%.
The Senate will likely be split 55-45 (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/senate/) in favor of Republicans, creeping closer to a filibuster-proof supermajority. Meanwhile, 89% of these guys (http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/supreme_court/justices/presjustices.html) are older than 65.
How depressing is that? Enjoy your tax cut, America. You're going to need it.

While you were re-electing a president:
Senator-elect Jim DeMint (http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/9888340.htm): Thinks that unwed pregnant women and gays are unfit to be schoolteachers.
Senator-elect Tom Coburn (http://www.fox23.com/news/state/story.aspx?content_id=BF956298-934E-4B30-B9D3-DC274E134AF4): Wants the death penalty for abortion doctors.
Senator-elect John Thune (http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/John_Thune_Education.htm): Mr. School Prayer Amendment.
Voters in 11 states voted to ban same-sex marriage (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/ballot.measures/). The lowest margin was 57%-43%. The highest (Mississippi) was 86%-14%. Kentucky's also bans civil unions (http://www.courier-journal.com/election/2004/ky/K1-gay1103-6582.html). That one was 75%-25%.
The Senate will likely be split 55-45 (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/senate/) in favor of Republicans, creeping closer to a filibuster-proof supermajority. Meanwhile, 89% of these guys (http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/supreme_court/justices/presjustices.html) are older than 65.
How depressing is that? Enjoy your tax cut, America. You're going to need it.

Lets not forget soon-to-be Chief Justice of the SCOTUS Scalia, and a replacement for Rehnquist, and likely for Ginsburg and maybe others. Without gloating, I don't mind stating that exitement is high, as are hopes for the future. :)

Ah the Paradox of Democracy. People call out for it, but cry out when it doesn't go your way.

While you were re-electing a president:
Senator-elect Jim DeMint (http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/9888340.htm): Thinks that unwed pregnant women and gays are unfit to be schoolteachers.
Senator-elect Tom Coburn (http://www.fox23.com/news/state/story.aspx?content_id=BF956298-934E-4B30-B9D3-DC274E134AF4): Wants the death penalty for abortion doctors.
Senator-elect John Thune (http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/John_Thune_Education.htm): Mr. School Prayer Amendment.
Voters in 11 states voted to ban same-sex marriage (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/ballot.measures/). The lowest margin was 57%-43%. The highest (Mississippi) was 86%-14%. Kentucky's also bans civil unions (http://www.courier-journal.com/election/2004/ky/K1-gay1103-6582.html). That one was 75%-25%.
The Senate will likely be split 55-45 (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/senate/) in favor of Republicans, creeping closer to a filibuster-proof supermajority. Meanwhile, 89% of these guys (http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/supreme_court/justices/presjustices.html) are older than 65.
How depressing is that? Enjoy your tax cut, America. You're going to need it.
What's more depressing is that large ammounts of Americans agee with the above.

Lets not forget soon-to-be Chief Justice of the SCOTUS Scalia, and a replacement for Rehnquist, and likely for Ginsburg and maybe others. Without gloating, I don't mind stating that exitement is high, as are hopes for the future. :)

Hurray for a single party system! Go team! :rolleyes:

I don't mind stating that exitement is high, as are hopes for the future. :)
I hope you enjoy the toilet into which you've thrown our future, fuckwit. A Scalia court is going to slam us back into the 1930s...if not the 1830s.

Lets not forget soon-to-be Chief Justice of the SCOTUS Scalia, and a replacement for Rehnquist, and likely for Ginsburg and maybe others. Without gloating, I don't mind stating that exitement is high, as are hopes for the future. :)
The majority of Americans have spoken, we have been heard!

W

I hope you enjoy the toilet into which you've thrown our future, fuckwit. A Scalia court is going to slam us back into the 1930s...if not the 1830s.
That's flaming. Consider this an official warning.

Unfree People
Forum Moderator

I hope you enjoy the toilet into which you've thrown our future, fuckwit. A Scalia court is going to slam us back into the 1930s...if not the 1830s.

You seriously over-estimate the impact of Supreme Court decisions over the long term.

I hope you enjoy the toilet into which you've thrown our future, fuckwit. A Scalia court is going to slam us back into the 1930s...if not the 1830s.

Maybe a Scalia court will have the constitution in mind before they consider "the right to privacy/abortion" which never shows up in the constitution. Your esteemed Roe v Wade court said they could find no mention to a right to privacy or abortion but that the constitution had a general respect for both.
They all did exactly what they shouldn't have done. They took a giant dump on the constitution.

That's flaming. Consider this an official warning.

Unfree People
Forum Moderator
yeah...but you also made Jovianica a hero to those who admire fury in thename of freedom. i am just holding back my curse words cause i'vebeeen irritated at them for so long i can be calm about it.

and who is to say when 'fuckwit' is not just a slam but a statement of fact.

I'm a fuckwit. sometimes its all i can think about!
i mean -- when something called 'unfree people' censors someone it's like -- oh. right. what's a cubit'

get a clue!

You seriously over-estimate the impact of Supreme Court decisions over the long term.

Remember Andrew Jackson... "Hes made his decision now lets see him enforce it." Led to the trail of tears. The Supreme Court only has as much power as the person enforcing law... the president.

Lets not forget soon-to-be Chief Justice of the SCOTUS Scalia, and a replacement for Rehnquist, and likely for Ginsburg and maybe others. Without gloating, I don't mind stating that exitement is high, as are hopes for the future. :)Well, unless Bush wants to push a very controversal person onto the court , in which case he's just a likely to push Thomas for Chief Justice, what a bold political move, the first A-A Chief Justice and democrats would have to publicly reject him opening them to claims of racism, and a reminder that Bush and the GOP are big supporters of individual A-As, just not the institutional racism of Afirmative Action.

yeah...but you also made Jovivanica a hero to those who admire fury in thename of freedom. i am just holding back my curse words cause i'vebeeen irritated at them for so long i can be calm about it.

and who is to say when 'fuckwit' is not just a slam but a statement of fact.

I'm a fuckwit. sometimes its all i can think about!

You mean fury in the name of tyranny? I don't remember any people being admired for rejecting people of basic human rights.

You seriously over-estimate the impact of Supreme Court decisions over the long term.
even though i am not an american that's hardly true. the suprene court can be seen aslike a deep dipstick. it monitors pressures the whoel society is under.when the supreme court is repressive it afflicts the whole nation.

And you thought the national socialist democrats (Hitler's party) in Germany was bad and had a stranglehold on our country. Haha, the US is no longer a democracy. It is an imbalanced theocracy ruled by the neo-conservative elite and the PNAC. Say bye bye to your allies. Have fun thumping your worthless bibles. When the nuclear bombs fall, your bibles will not save you.

I sense a flame-bating troll!

Hurry, Flameboy, to the troll cave!

Dun dun dunnnnnnn!!!

While you were re-electing a president:
Senator-elect Jim DeMint (http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/9888340.htm): Thinks that unwed pregnant women and gays are unfit to be schoolteachers.
Senator-elect Tom Coburn (http://www.fox23.com/news/state/story.aspx?content_id=BF956298-934E-4B30-B9D3-DC274E134AF4): Wants the death penalty for abortion doctors.
Senator-elect John Thune (http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/John_Thune_Education.htm): Mr. School Prayer Amendment.
Voters in 11 states voted to ban same-sex marriage (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/ballot.measures/). The lowest margin was 57%-43%. The highest (Mississippi) was 86%-14%. Kentucky's also bans civil unions (http://www.courier-journal.com/election/2004/ky/K1-gay1103-6582.html). That one was 75%-25%.
The Senate will likely be split 55-45 (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/senate/) in favor of Republicans, creeping closer to a filibuster-proof supermajority. Meanwhile, 89% of these guys (http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/supreme_court/justices/presjustices.html) are older than 65.
How depressing is that? Enjoy your tax cut, America. You're going to need it.
Congratulations America for making the right choice and ignoring Michael Moore the bloated sack of lies.

If you yanks want Bush you deserve him. If you want to see democracy go up in flames and civil rights slashed, which a majority of you obviously want judging from the banning gay marriage thing, if you want tax cuts for the rich and no medicare so that many of you are too poor to get your broken arm set or ride in an ambulance go ahead. You asked for it, you got it. I just can't believe that so many of you want that monkey to represent your country. Even if those things I listed don't all happen, this one certainly will: the rest of the world will see W when the see America, and most of them will be full of anger and hatred.

And you thought the national socialist democrats (Hitler's party) in Germany was bad and had a stranglehold on our country. Haha, the US is no longer a democracy. It is an imbalanced theocracy ruled by the neo-conservative elite and the PNAC. Say bye bye to your allies. Have fun thumping your worthless bibles. When the nuclear bombs fall, your bibles will not save you.
http://www.picdump.org/albums/dragmire/Troll_XING.jpg

http://www.picdump.org/albums/dragmire/Troll_XING.jpg

Aw, he's sweet :)

Ah the Paradox of Democracy. People call out for it, but cry out when it doesn't go your way.
but we arnt a democracy. we are a representative federal republic and peoples RIGHTS are supposed to be enshrined in our constitution. Equality FOR all, not just fucking faith-based assholes. These people dont know what America really stands for, they just twist it for their own twisted ways.

Huh, i hate people every time someone says something he dont likes calling him a troll. Theire the true trolls.
offtopic shit

Just another reminder... whatever your political views, whatever your opinions on this situation, PLAY NICE.

I'm not seeing very much of that in this forum today. It shouldn't be that hard.

Unfree People
Forum Moderator

And you thought the national socialist democrats (Hitler's party) in Germany was bad and had a stranglehold on our country. Haha, the US is no longer a democracy. It is an imbalanced theocracy ruled by the neo-conservative elite and the PNAC. Say bye bye to your allies. Have fun thumping your worthless bibles. When the nuclear bombs fall, your bibles will not save you.

All the Nukes belong to America :)
besides, who's to say Kerry was any better or worse, how much do you know about the guy except that he's not George Bush? Catch 22 methinks

All the Nukes belong to America
Well. There also some Nukes in France, Britain, North Korea (as they claim), Israel, Pakistan, India, Russia (of course). And im sure i forgot some countrys.

I've never been more ashamed to be an American than after this election. The fact that there are so many people in this country who support one of the most disturbing social agendas ever seen in the executive office, one of the most heavily republican congress', and possibly the most conservative Supreme Court in history, really make me worry about the ability of people to think. The Democratic party needs to figure out what it has to do in order to wake up Americans, and realize what a horrible direction they've been heading. They need to ignore this debacle, and work on taking back both branches of government in the next election. At least then the system will approach looking like a real republic. A two-party system may not be that great, but it beats the hell out of a one-party system.

Anybody else considering moving to Canada?
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen/menu-howto.html

Well. There also some Nukes in France, Britain, North Korea (as they claim), Israel, Pakistan, India, Russia (of course). And im sure i forgot some countrys.

China for one!

Well. There also some Nukes in France, Britain, North Korea (as they claim), Israel, Pakistan, India, Russia (of course). And im sure i forgot some countrys.

Don't forget China!

And the fact that while everyone knows Israel has nukes, I don't think they've actually declared themselves a nuclear power.

Well. There also some Nukes in France, Britain, North Korea (as they claim), Israel, Pakistan, India, Russia (of course). And im sure i forgot some countrys.

Sorry, that bit was a joke
Didn't mean to offend

And you thought the national socialist democrats (Hitler's party) in Germany was bad and had a stranglehold on our country. Haha, the US is no longer a democracy. It is an imbalanced theocracy ruled by the neo-conservative elite and the PNAC. Say bye bye to your allies. Have fun thumping your worthless bibles. When the nuclear bombs fall, your bibles will not save you.

You are welcome. ;)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/chitribts/20041012/ts_chicagotrib/marshallplanstillatworkingermany

If you yanks want Bush you deserve him. If you want to see democracy go up in flames and civil rights slashed, which a majority of you obviously want judging from the banning gay marriage thing, if you want tax cuts for the rich and no medicare so that many of you are too poor to get your broken arm set or ride in an ambulance go ahead. You asked for it, you got it. I just can't believe that so many of you want that monkey to represent your country. Even if those things I listed don't all happen, this one certainly will: the rest of the world will see W when the see America, and most of them will be full of anger and hatred.


Would you like an extra portion of hyperbole for only39 cents extra, Mr. Rogers?

I actually read up on Kerry online and I don't even live in America. I figured that I didn't agree with all his ideas, some things I blatantly opposed him on, but on many things I agreed with him at least partly. As opposed to Bush who I opposed on pretty much everything. Therefore I felt pretty justified in supporting Kerry, although my true alleigance will always be to David Cobb. Long live Greens!

Mikorlias of Imardeavia

And you thought the national socialist democrats (Hitler's party) in Germany was bad and had a stranglehold on our country. Haha, the US is no longer a democracy. It is an imbalanced theocracy ruled by the neo-conservative elite and the PNAC. Say bye bye to your allies. Have fun thumping your worthless bibles. When the nuclear bombs fall, your bibles will not save you.

How laughable. Whether or not the US is a democracy is not dependant upon whether you like the outcome of the vote.

All the Nukes belong to America :)

Nonono, 'All your nuke are belong to America', say it.

The majority of Americans have spoken, we have been heard!

W

I wouldn't get too excited about that if I were you. The majority was hardly an overwhelming one.... and historically a 2nd Term President sees his party lose a lot of ground in the House and Senate, where the Republicans have a very small majority (2 in the Senate, about 30 in the House).... guess where the Democrats are going to be spending their money the next two years?

I wouldn't get too excited about that if I were you. The majority was hardly an overwhelming one.... and historically a 2nd Term President sees his party lose a lot of ground in the House and Senate, where the Republicans have a very small majority (2 in the Senate, about 30 in the House).... guess where the Democrats are going to be spending their money the next two years?
Thats what they said for two years leading up to 2002. OOOPS! Gains in the senate and house. We'll see.

I wouldn't get too excited about that if I were you. The majority was hardly an overwhelming one.... and historically a 2nd Term President sees his party lose a lot of ground in the House and Senate, where the Republicans have a very small majority (2 in the Senate, about 30 in the House).... guess where the Democrats are going to be spending their money the next two years?
I'm not certain the historical trend is going to mean much in the next off-year elections. Prior to the last off-year elections, the trend was for both terms that the president's party would lose ground in congress. The trend is based upon suppport for the president bringing support to canidates of his party, but the increased level of partisanship makes this trend meaningless.

As for Republicans, don't get too excited. Bush's conservatism is limited to social issues.

I hope you enjoy the toilet into which you've thrown our future, fuckwit. A Scalia court is going to slam us back into the 1930s...if not the 1830s.
It should be interesting to see what happens after 4 more "strict constructionists" get appointed to the SC. Goodbye federal government. Yee hawww!! state government!

It should be interesting to see what happens after 4 more "strict constructionists" get appointed to the SC. Goodbye federal government. Yee hawww!! state government!
What's the big difference? State and feds can both take your rights away just the same.

As for Republicans, don't get too excited. Bush's conservatism is limited to social issues.
whispers: "they dont care...its all about the homosexuals!!!"

whispers: "they dont care...its all about the homosexuals!!!"

That seems to be the case. It's a pity.

We need to stop bickering and arguing. We have a president-elect, and no one argues(well, at least no SENSIBLE and SMART people) that GWB won. Now that this is over, we need to UNITE. All Americans, no matter their political party, are AMERICANS. We must bond together and then, and ONLY then, can America restore itself. When the lines between Republican and Democrat are blurred, and the people of the nation are united, America can truly achieve greatness.

As for Republicans, don't get too excited. Bush's conservatism is limited to social issues.

This is why I find it so disgusting that he got in...it just shows how little the Republican party really stands for anymore. I bet that a decent segment of its membership doesn't even know what a conservative is beyond social issues, though they label themselves with the title at the drop of a hat. As a Libertarian, I find that both sad and frightening in what it says of our system.

We need to stop bickering and arguing. We have a president-elect, and no one argues(well, at least no SENSIBLE and SMART people) that GWB won. Now that this is over, we need to UNITE. All Americans, no matter their political party, are AMERICANS. We must bond together and then, and ONLY then, can America restore itself. When the lines between Republican and Democrat are blurred, and the people of the nation are united, America can truly achieve greatness.

Tell me, what steps do you think ought to be taken in the spirit of what you've just said. Where should the government be going, specifically?

While you were re-electing a president:
Senator-elect Jim DeMint (http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/9888340.htm): Thinks that unwed pregnant women and gays are unfit to be schoolteachers.
Senator-elect Tom Coburn (http://www.fox23.com/news/state/story.aspx?content_id=BF956298-934E-4B30-B9D3-DC274E134AF4): Wants the death penalty for abortion doctors.
Senator-elect John Thune (http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/John_Thune_Education.htm): Mr. School Prayer Amendment.
Voters in 11 states voted to ban same-sex marriage (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/ballot.measures/). The lowest margin was 57%-43%. The highest (Mississippi) was 86%-14%. Kentucky's also bans civil unions (http://www.courier-journal.com/election/2004/ky/K1-gay1103-6582.html). That one was 75%-25%.
The Senate will likely be split 55-45 (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/senate/) in favor of Republicans, creeping closer to a filibuster-proof supermajority. Meanwhile, 89% of these guys (http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/supreme_court/justices/presjustices.html) are older than 65.
How depressing is that? Enjoy your tax cut, America. You're going to need it.

It's time to face the facts,the US is a conservative country, and this makes me happy!

It's time to face the facts,the US is a conservative country, and this makes me happy!

Yeah, that means we can start to party with Iran and Saudi Arabia! Joy!

Why do you hate America?

We need to stop bickering and arguing. We have a president-elect, and no one argues(well, at least no SENSIBLE and SMART people) that GWB won. Now that this is over, we need to UNITE. All Americans, no matter their political party, are AMERICANS. We must bond together and then, and ONLY then, can America restore itself. When the lines between Republican and Democrat are blurred, and the people of the nation are united, America can truly achieve greatness.

Damn THIS infernal CAPS lock!

It's time to face the facts,the US is a conservative country, and this makes me happy!
90s?

But the US is relatively conservative to Europe and Canada.

If most of them are truly over 65 think of it this way atleast there is that good chance they will die before they can get re-elected and/or thier term is over.

I hope you enjoy the toilet into which you've thrown our future, fuckwit. A Scalia court is going to slam us back into the 1930s...if not the 1830s.

Well, I sure don't want to go back to the New Deal socialist 30's, but the 1830's would be nice, except that whole slavery thing.

You seriously over-estimate the impact of Supreme Court decisions over the long term.

Consider the impact of FDR's Supreme Court. I think that was rather substantial.

We need to stop bickering and arguing. We have a president-elect, and no one argues(well, at least no SENSIBLE and SMART people) that GWB won. Now that this is over, we need to UNITE. All Americans, no matter their political party, are AMERICANS. We must bond together and then, and ONLY then, can America restore itself. When the lines between Republican and Democrat are blurred, and the people of the nation are united, America can truly achieve greatness.
Alright I'll give it a shot...
YAAAAY! FOUR MORE WARS! FOUR MORE WARS!

All the Nukes belong to America :)

Not all of them. Russian, China, France, Israel, Pakistan, India, and probably North Korea have some too.


besides, who's to say Kerry was any better or worse, how much do you know about the guy except that he's not George Bush? Catch 22 methinks
Man, I was kind of hoping Kerry would win so his anti-war supporters would learn the true nature of the situtation, but that probably wouldn't have happend. Here's hoping the Government Party get's less than 99% of the vote next time.

The majority of Americans have spoken, we have been heard!

letter removed as offensive to some...
It's just too bad y'all spoke wtihout thinking first...

If you yanks want Bush you deserve him. If you want to see democracy go up in flames and civil rights slashed, which a majority of you obviously want judging from the banning gay marriage thing, if you want tax cuts for the rich and no medicare so that many of you are too poor to get your broken arm set or ride in an ambulance go ahead. You asked for it, you got it. I just can't believe that so many of you want that monkey to represent your country. Even if those things I listed don't all happen, this one certainly will: the rest of the world will see W when the see America, and most of them will be full of anger and hatred.

sad sad ignorance
the middle class is by far the LARGEST class so it will naturally pay more taxes overall then the upper class (2%)

Alright I'll give it a shot...
YAAAAY! FOUR MORE WARS! FOUR MORE WARS!

This really brings out your inner ignorance
what he said was right
we gotta put the ellection behind us and become americans again instead of being democrats and republicans

This really brings out your inner ignorance
what he said was right
we gotta put the ellection behind us and become americans again instead of being democrats and republicans
I'd be more inclined to pay attention to you if you could spell, and knew what punctuation was.
Four More Wars! Four More Wars!