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I am angry. Very angry. The following opens graphically.

Jovianica
03-11-2004, 16:27
When a bomb goes off on a fox news or CNN screen, people in Baghdad are having their limbs torn off by the blast. When a bomb goes off, shrapnel is carving through human bodies leaving them horribly maimed and suffering blood loss and perhaps septic shock, if they survive. When a bomb goes off, peoples' internal organs are crushed and ruptured, and they are left to die slowly drowning as their lungs fill up with their own blood because the hospital was already fucking bombed and they can't treat a pressure pneumothorax from the shockwave that the bomb was designed to make.

The American administration has killed thousands upon thousands of people just in Iraq, not even taking into consideration the thousands that died in Afghanistan whom few bother to tally. This administration has decided that rights and freedoms are now priveleges. This administration has lied, tortured, stolen, and murdered its way across the world for four years, at the same time making themselves richer off of the damage they did.

It may be a simplification, but to willingly do all of those things, to do them over and over and to do them unapologetically and apparently without remorse, that would be my definition of evil.

And now people have, apparently, voted them into power again.

I am disgusted at the millions of people who put their anachronistic qualms over gay marriage at the front of their ballots. I am disgusted at the millions of people who tried to put the imposition of their religious beliefs forwards when they voted, forgetting that “Thou shalt not fucking kill” is one of the fucking ten commandments. I am disgusted at the millions of people who are willing to be pacified by the possibility of a minor fucking tax cut. I am disgusted at the millions of people who walked into a voting booth and pulled the Bush lever because he seemed more fucking amiable. I am disgusted with everyone who voted one way or the other just because they always have. I am disgusted with every single person who honestly thinks that the way to make the world a better place is to blast the shit out of people based solely on who happens to be in charge.

I am disgusted at every single fucking one of the hundred and ten million people who were too fucking lazy to get off of their asses and fucking vote. I am disgusted at every person who thinks that their vote doesn't matter because they are all the same. I am disgusted at every persno who doesn't vote because their vote doesn't matter, as if they expect their singular voice alone to guide 300,000,000 people.

Congratulations to every single person who voted republican and to every person who couldn't be bothered. You got your candidate in. Now let's see how much fucking damage can be done to the world and to each of your lives in the next four years.

Let's have a moment of math. Fifty million republican voters. Estimates to 300,000 for the fatalities between Afghanistan and Iraq. For every 160 republican votes, someone died. Congratulations, and may your consciences catch up to you.
Brittanic States
03-11-2004, 16:29
Woot! Four more years ;)
Lacadaemon
03-11-2004, 16:30
When a bomb goes off on a fox news or CNN screen, people in Baghdad are having their limbs torn off by the blast. When a bomb goes off, shrapnel is carving through human bodies leaving them horribly maimed and suffering blood loss and perhaps septic shock, if they survive. When a bomb goes off, peoples' internal organs are crushed and ruptured, and they are left to die slowly drowning as their lungs fill up with their own blood because the hospital was already fucking bombed and they can't treat a pressure pneumothorax from the shockwave that the bomb was designed to make.

The American administration has killed thousands upon thousands of people just in Iraq, not even taking into consideration the thousands that died in Afghanistan whom few bother to tally. This administration has decided that rights and freedoms are now priveleges. This administration has lied, tortured, stolen, and murdered its way across the world for four years, at the same time making themselves richer off of the damage they did.

It may be a simplification, but to willingly do all of those things, to do them over and over and to do them unapologetically and apparently without remorse, that would be my definition of evil.

And now people have, apparently, voted them into power again.

I am disgusted at the millions of people who put their anachronistic qualms over gay marriage at the front of their ballots. I am disgusted at the millions of people who tried to put the imposition of their religious beliefs forwards when they voted, forgetting that “Thou shalt not fucking kill” is one of the fucking ten commandments. I am disgusted at the millions of people who are willing to be pacified by the possibility of a minor fucking tax cut. I am disgusted at the millions of people who walked into a voting booth and pulled the Bush lever because he seemed more fucking amiable. I am disgusted with everyone who voted one way or the other just because they always have. I am disgusted with every single person who honestly thinks that the way to make the world a better place is to blast the shit out of people based solely on who happens to be in charge.

I am disgusted at every single fucking one of the hundred and ten million people who were too fucking lazy to get off of their asses and fucking vote. I am disgusted at every person who thinks that their vote doesn't matter because they are all the same. I am disgusted at every persno who doesn't vote because their vote doesn't matter, as if they expect their singular voice alone to guide 300,000,000 people.

Congratulations to every single person who voted republican and to every person who couldn't be bothered. You got your candidate in. Now let's see how much fucking damage can be done to the world and to each of your lives in the next four years.

Let's have a moment of math. Fifty million republican voters. Estimates to 300,000 for the fatalities between Afghanistan and Iraq. For every 160 republican votes, someone died. Congratulations, and may your consciences catch up to you.

well, did you vote?
Petsburg
03-11-2004, 16:38
the Vote isn't over. Kerry is only loosing by 2 points.
Demented Hamsters
03-11-2004, 16:41
Whoahh! Calm down Mr. Sore Loser!
I'm as disappointed as you that Kerry didn't win, but it's a bit of a stretch to tie each republican voter to the growing casualty list in Iraq.
Also 300 000 fatalities is way too high. I think you might mean injuries and fatalities.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3973197.stm
Interestingly, the BBC has an article about how ppl voted. The biggest indication of voter intention was how often they went to Church - more often, more likely to vote Bush.

According to the exit poll, 22% of the electorate said "moral values" was the issue that mattered most in how they voted - compared to 20% who cited the economy, 19% who cited terrorism, and just 15% who said Iraq was the key issue.
Not surprisingly, four out of five voters who cited moral values as their key issue voted for President Bush - as did the same proportion of those who cited terrorism.
In contrast, those most concerned about the economy voted four to one for Senator Kerry, as did three in four of those who cited Iraq as their main concern.
...
Two-thirds of voters who attend religious services regularly (once a week or more) backed President Bush rather than Senator Kerry - and they make up 40% of the electorate.

Which in itself is kinda ironic - that so many Americans view a draft-dodging cocaine-snorting drunk-driving liar as 'moral'.
Also kinda sad that in so advanced a country as the States, it comes down to how fervently a person believes in a bunch of Jewish fairy tales is who you'll vote for.
Terran Individualists
03-11-2004, 16:42
the Vote isn't over. Kerry is only loosing by 2 points.

did you all vote? damn.

i heard that both those guys were on the same side and it was rigged or something. but who cares? It's just americans. they have a constitutional republic...voting only patters in representative democracies.

you knew that right?
Jovianica
03-11-2004, 16:43
well, did you vote?
I voted. I voted at 7am in Connecticut, drove 3 hours and busted my ass volunteering in New Hampshire.

Did you?
Gigatron
03-11-2004, 16:46
I completely agree with the thread starter. America is a shame for the planet. A country that once was great is now ruled by a monkey, for another 4 years to be steered to inevitable ruin. Sometimes I wonder if the people who vote in the US are all mindless zombies - especially the Republican voters - who completely forgot all the damage Bush has done during his first 4 years. If that is the democracy of the "leader of the free world" then it cannot be the leader of the free world anymore. I personally have no faith in America returning to it's good values and I do not consider it the leader of democracy or freedom anymore.
Haloman
03-11-2004, 16:48
Whoahh! Calm down Mr. Sore Loser!
I'm as disappointed as you that Kerry didn't win, but it's a bit of a stretch to tie each republican voter to the growing casualty list in Iraq.
Also 300 000 fatalities is way too high. I think you might mean injuries and fatalities.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3973197.stm
Interestingly, the BBC has an article about how ppl voted. The biggest indication of voter intention was how often they went to Church - more often, more likely to vote Bush.



Which in itself is kinda ironic - that so many Americans view a draft-dodging cocaine-snorting drunk-driving liar as 'moral'.
Also kinda sad that in so advanced a country as the States, it comes down to how fervently a person believes in a bunch of Jewish fairy tales is who you'll vote for.

Ya, it's just too bad that they aren't fairy tales....
Shalrirorchia
03-11-2004, 16:49
I fought tooth and nail for John Kerry in Ohio. I volunteered. I voted. I argued, pesuaded. I did all I could do. If these right wing lunatics win, it was not because I lacked the backbone to stand the line against them.
The God King Eru-sama
03-11-2004, 16:50
Ya, it's just too bad that they aren't fairy tales....

That's damn right!

The correct term is 'mythology.'
Catholic Germany
03-11-2004, 16:50
God I hate this country so much right now. I mean Jesus Christ! The Republicans now have almost complete control of the House and Senate, and if Bush gets the White House, good bye Check and Balance.
The Skippers
03-11-2004, 16:51
It is easy to point out how many casualties the war in Iraq has created, but apparently it is even easier to FORGET how many casualties Hussein caused with his leadership. Although I agree the US has bungled the post-war effort, fewer Iraqi's are dying now than before we got there.
Isanyonehome
03-11-2004, 16:52
Interestingly, the BBC has an article about how ppl voted. The biggest indication of voter intention was how often they went to Church - more often, more likely to vote Bush.



Which in itself is kinda ironic - that so many Americans view a draft-dodging cocaine-snorting drunk-driving liar as 'moral'.
Also kinda sad that in so advanced a country as the States, it comes down to how fervently a person believes in a bunch of Jewish fairy tales is who you'll vote for.

The church thing has been true for many elections, not just this one.

Kerry got the Jewish vote 73/27

Just because churchgoers are more likely to vote for Bush, it doesnt mean they are voting for him because of religion. There is no causation, only correlation
Haloman
03-11-2004, 16:52
God I hate this country so much right now. I mean Jesus Christ! The Republicans now have almost complete control of the House and Senate, and if Bush gets the White House, good bye Check and Balance.

No, it's more like "hello to some people who are actually willing to kick some ass".
The Tribes Of Longton
03-11-2004, 16:52
That's damn right!

The correct term is 'mythology.'

or 'how to control your populace the easy way, with "Eeeeevil Away"!'
Haloman
03-11-2004, 16:54
Quit bashing my religion, and go read the bible.
The Tribes Of Longton
03-11-2004, 16:55
It is easy to point out how many casualties the war in Iraq has created, but apparently it is even easier to FORGET how many casualties Hussein caused with his leadership. Although I agree the US has bingled the post-war effort, fewer Iraqi's are dying now than before we got there.

I don't think that's possible. If Hussein had been killing his own people at the same rate as the Americans have been, there would have been no need for the Gulf War in 91-92..whenever. Everyone would have been dead in Iraq already, so there wouldn't have been anyone to invade Kuwait
Takrai
03-11-2004, 16:55
the Vote isn't over. Kerry is only loosing by 2 points.
The vote IS over. They already are saying the Bush lead is insurmountable with roughly 100% of the votes counted.
To the person who started this thread, the American people spoke their minds. They flatly rejected the fringe left. If the Democrats want to run a strong chance, they should appeal more to the middle. The Republicans actually INCREASED the senate lead it appears from 51-48-1 to 55-44-1.
To all those who complain that it is so unfair, this is historically the largest voter turnout in many years. If Kerry had won, there would be many,myself included, who would be, to quote the original post"angry,very angry".
Also, it should be noted that this is the first president since Reagan, to actually win a majority of all votes cast. Even Clinton did not manage that.
Sub-Actuality
03-11-2004, 16:56
No, it's more like "hello to some people who are actually willing to kick some ass".

People's decision on leadership can be boiled down to "will he kick some ass?"... Suddenly the overwhelming wave of ignorance in the US makes sense.
UpwardThrust
03-11-2004, 16:56
Quit bashing my religion, and go read the bible.


Done that … and on here everything is fair game if you keep the flaming to a minimum.

Quit bashing my beliefs that questioning religion is right
Don’t I have a right to my beliefs as much as you have a right to yours?
Haloman
03-11-2004, 16:58
The vote IS over. They already are saying the Bush lead is insurmountable with roughly 100% of the votes counted.
To the person who started this thread, the American people spoke their minds. They flatly rejected the fringe left. If the Democrats want to run a strong chance, they should appeal more to the middle. The Republicans actually INCREASED the senate lead it appears from 51-48-1 to 55-44-1.
To all those who complain that it is so unfair, this is historically the largest voter turnout in many years. If Kerry had won, there would be many,myself included, who would be, to quote the original post"angry,very angry".
Also, it should be noted that this is the first president since Reagan, to actually win a majority of all votes cast. Even Clinton did not manage that.

It is over, CNN and such just don't want to give Ohio to Bush just yet. They're praying for some kind of miracle in that all the absentees are Kerry voters...ya, right.

America is much, much safer with Republicans in office than democrats.
Takrai
03-11-2004, 16:58
I don't think that's possible. If Hussein had been killing his own people at the same rate as the Americans have been, there would have been no need for the Gulf War in 91-92..whenever. Everyone would have been dead in Iraq already, so there wouldn't have been anyone to invade Kuwait
There are roughly 3 million Iraqi families who have filed requests for help in finding their family members who were arrested then apparently killed by Hussein. There are thousands of mass graves throughout the nation of Iraq where hundreds in some cases of bodies lay buried, and are currently being catalogued by US forces.
The Black Forrest
03-11-2004, 16:59
I completely agree with the thread starter. America is a shame for the planet. A country that once was great is now ruled by a monkey, for another 4 years to be steered to inevitable ruin. Sometimes I wonder if the people who vote in the US are all mindless zombies - especially the Republican voters - who completely forgot all the damage Bush has done during his first 4 years. If that is the democracy of the "leader of the free world" then it cannot be the leader of the free world anymore. I personally have no faith in America returning to it's good values and I do not consider it the leader of democracy or freedom anymore.

Well?

You won't hear me arguing on behalf of the shrubs actions.

We are in a dark time and I am sorry to say a large amount of people simply vote for simple minded reasons.

I am quite sure a major factor was the fact "he is a Christian" and "he is against faggot marriage" (disclaimer the latter is a quote from one of my hick relatives).

Just wait for our next war. God would have told him to attack somebody else.

Many bad things on the horizen now. He is a lame duck President and will do whatever "god" tells him to do.

Well look at this way. With him plauging the office for 4 more years, it's a huge gain for the EU economically.

You guys might eclipse us.

He is going to spend us into oblivion.

Ahh well. Just the ramblings of somebody who is probably comming down with something.
Eutrusca
03-11-2004, 16:59
God I hate this country so much right now. I mean Jesus Christ! The Republicans now have almost complete control of the House and Senate, and if Bush gets the White House, good bye Check and Balance.

"Hate this country?" Interesting response and a highly immature one. I wouldn't have "hated" my Country if Kerry had been elected. I would have begun to think about how to change things to make sure my candidate won the next election.
Sub-Actuality
03-11-2004, 16:59
America is much, much safer with Republicans in office than democrats.

If you call being perpetually at war "safer", then I guess so.
Haloman
03-11-2004, 17:00
Done that … and on here everything is fair game if you keep the flaming to a minimum.

Quit bashing my beliefs that questioning religion is right
Don’t I have a right to my beliefs as much as you have a right to yours?

Yes, but you don't have the right to bash my religion. I'm not bashing your beliefs...I never said it's wrong to question whether religion is right.
Eutrusca
03-11-2004, 17:00
Just the ramblings of somebody who is probably comming down with something.

Yeah. "Terminal stupidity."
UpwardThrust
03-11-2004, 17:02
Yes, but you don't have the right to bash my religion. I'm not bashing your beliefs...I never said it's wrong to question whether religion is right.
And what if my belief is to post my feelings? you saying I cant do so really would be questioning their validity
Haloman
03-11-2004, 17:02
If you call being perpetually at war "safer", then I guess so.

Oh yeah...what the hell is Kerry going to do, write sympathy letters to terrorists? Bush isn't afraid to defend this country, and Kerry is. When will you people wake the fuck up? There's ass needed to be kicked in this world, and Bush ain't scared to do it.
Takrai
03-11-2004, 17:02
"Hate this country?" Interesting response and a highly immature one. I wouldn't have "hated" my Country if Kerry had been elected. I would have begun to think about how to change things to make sure my candidate won the next election.
Yes that was a remark from someone who really should just leave already...
Yaddah
03-11-2004, 17:03
God I hate this country so much right now. I mean Jesus Christ! The Republicans now have almost complete control of the House and Senate, and if Bush gets the White House, good bye Check and Balance.

You do realize that between 1940 and 1994 the Democrats had control of the house and senate don't you?

That means for all of those Democratic Presidents there were no "Checks and Balances" as you put it.

But realistically the way the Government of the United states works is by a three fold system of checks and balances, Executive, Legislative and Judicial. (President, Congress and Supreme Court for those of you who haven't studied US History).

Please do some research before spouting off such nonsense.
Haloman
03-11-2004, 17:04
And what if my belief is to post my feelings? you saying I cant do so really would be questioning their validity

Then post your feelings, without bashing my religion.
UpwardThrust
03-11-2004, 17:05
Then post your feelings, without bashing my religion.

Again if they fall in to the criticizing region really it could be considered bashing

And what falls under the “bashing” category that you propose be off limits?