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Children voters

Pan slavia
02-11-2004, 23:01
My brother came home from school today saying that his school held a presidential election just to see who would win if the school counted Bush won by 600 votes but this wouldnt bother me so much if his school wasnt an elementery school. Is it just me or is there something wrong
Ps kindergarteners to fifth graders voted
Areyoukiddingme
02-11-2004, 23:08
My brother came home from school today saying that his school held a presidential election just to see who would win if the school counted Bush won by 600 votes but this wouldnt bother me so much if his school wasnt an elementery school. Is it just me or is there something wrong
Ps kindergarteners to fifth graders voted :rolleyes: Yeah, there is definatel soemthing wrong with getting children involved in the electoral system, getting them interested. Maybe that is why voter turnout is so low.
The Sunshine State
02-11-2004, 23:11
I'm a junior in high school, and we too had a mock election. Surprisingly enough, Ralph Nader won, beating Bush about 1%. I don't even think Kerry got two percent of the vote.
Pan slavia
02-11-2004, 23:14
I'm a junior in high school, and we too had a mock election. Surprisingly enough, Ralph Nader won, beating Bush about 1%. I don't even think Kerry got two percent of the vote.
My middle high also voted but bush won and forgot to mention im in texas (Probly the reason) im probly one of the twenty democrats in the school but the origanal question the kids seem kind of finatical eerily like 1984
La Terra di Liberta
02-11-2004, 23:18
My social class voted yesterday and it was 12 for Kerry, 2 for Bush and the rest said they wouldn't vote (6).
Glinde Nessroe
02-11-2004, 23:20
My social class voted yesterday and it was 12 for Kerry, 2 for Bush and the rest said they wouldn't vote (6).
It's really likely it'll just swing by the parents and who's on TV the most.
La Terra di Liberta
02-11-2004, 23:23
It's really likely it'll just swing by the parents and who's on TV the most.



My parents are both Liberals but I'm a Conservative, although I still voted for Kerry more because I dislike Bush so much than liking Kerry. But your likely right.
NinjaAssassins
02-11-2004, 23:32
I'm a junior in high school, and we too had a mock election. Surprisingly enough, Ralph Nader won, beating Bush about 1%. I don't even think Kerry got two percent of the vote.

I'm not to surprized, everyone thinks it's funny. In fact Nadar's like the laughing stalk of the ballot. :mp5:

And I think that Kerry has the upper hand in this election just because noone wants bush again so the web site kerrysabouchebagbutimvotingforhimanyway.com is frighteningly acurate.
The Sunshine State
02-11-2004, 23:33
It's really likely it'll just swing by the parents and who's on TV the most.

To a certain extent. But you have to realize, as juniors and seniors in high school, we are very concerned with our futures. Many of us are examining the issues, the canidates, and what policies will be best for us upon graduation. I want to be able to find a job. I want my siblings to get the education they deserve. Things like healthcare and taxes will become a large issue for me in two/three years. While the media and parents may play a large role in the opinions of the younger generation, as a whole, we're coming around. This is our future, after all.
French Vanilla
02-11-2004, 23:36
My brother came home from school today saying that his school held a presidential election just to see who would win if the school counted Bush won by 600 votes but this wouldnt bother me so much if his school wasnt an elementery school. Is it just me or is there something wrong
Ps kindergarteners to fifth graders votedWell it could be one of two things, the school is located in a heavily pro Bush area of the country and the kids mimic what they hear at home, or Bush's simplistic messages appeal to the intellectually immature. Kind of scary, but could explain why a lot of fanatical lower and middle class republicans seem to be voting against their own best interests.
NinjaAssassins
02-11-2004, 23:40
That was a libral statement if I ever heard one...
Mentholyptus
02-11-2004, 23:52
fanatical lower and middle class republicans seem to be voting against their own best interests.
A good slogan is "If you want to live like a Republican, vote Democrat!"
It's truer than I would like to think.
My high school (it's a Jesuit school) had a mock election: Bush 58%, Kerry 38%, Nader 4%. Which is more liberal than I expected (my school is loaded with the whiny spoiled children of wealthy white Republicans. We also have a lot of fairly conservative Catholics who vote solely on pro-life/pro-choice)
Neo-Tommunism
03-11-2004, 00:12
I'm not suprised at all that Bush would win an election in an elementery school. Have you seen Kerry's face? But I do think it is a wrong thing to do. There is a difference between getting children involved in politics at a young age, and teaching children to become as polarized as the rest of the nation at a young age. These kids probably had no idea what the candidates stood for, and having them vote would just create more un-informed voters in the future.
Natural Choice
03-11-2004, 00:15
Well it could be one of two things, the school is located in a heavily pro Bush area of the country and the kids mimic what they hear at home, or Bush's simplistic messages appeal to the intellectually immature.
:rolleyes: Or maybe the kids could sniff out what a fraud Kerry is. Thanks for posting that with your second post, I have to spend less time reading you and more time ignoring you.
Glinde Nessroe
03-11-2004, 00:25
To a certain extent. But you have to realize, as juniors and seniors in high school, we are very concerned with our futures. Many of us are examining the issues, the canidates, and what policies will be best for us upon graduation. I want to be able to find a job. I want my siblings to get the education they deserve. Things like healthcare and taxes will become a large issue for me in two/three years. While the media and parents may play a large role in the opinions of the younger generation, as a whole, we're coming around. This is our future, after all.

Oh yeah I totaly agree, yet I doubt kindergarten kids have much undersatnd of things such as Kyoto, gay marriage, i hope they don't worry about wanting guns and such but yes, high school students should be well inform and be able to give a decent reason to vote by atleast 14 if not earlier. Though up to the age of 10 I'm pretty sure they'll vote for who's name they saw came after the Simpsons on FOX.
Utagon
03-11-2004, 00:28
I live in a Democratic State (Washington). What's odd though is that the West side is Democratic and practicaly every one on the East side is Republican, except for the Democrates who live in Spokane. It's hard to live normally in this small town (Me being a Kerry Supporter (Though I'm not old enough to vote)). I don;t know why Bush supporters have to be so cruel if I wish to support Kerry...such biggots. So now if they ask what party I think I'm part of, I just say Libertarian.
Sukafitz
03-11-2004, 00:32
Even a kindergartener can tell Kerry is a phony.
Castillanos
03-11-2004, 00:36
My school also had a mock election, and my class was split into three groups of eleven and each was to campaign for two weeks. Unfortunately, I was picked into the Republican Group to support Bush, and even worse 98% of the school was Democratic... However, the results were shocking... out of 200 Electoral Votes, 80 were for Kerry, 50 were for Bush, and 70 were to bring back Nader (I live in California)...
Siljhouettes
03-11-2004, 00:40
My brother came home from school today saying that his school held a presidential election just to see who would win if the school counted Bush won by 600 votes but this wouldnt bother me so much if his school wasnt an elementery school. Is it just me or is there something wrong
Ps kindergarteners to fifth graders voted
Name recognition.
The Sunshine State
03-11-2004, 00:42
Oh yeah I totaly agree, yet I doubt kindergarten kids have much undersatnd of things such as Kyoto, gay marriage, i hope they don't worry about wanting guns and such but yes, high school students should be well inform and be able to give a decent reason to vote by atleast 14 if not earlier. Though up to the age of 10 I'm pretty sure they'll vote for who's name they saw came after the Simpsons on FOX.

Oops, I was under the impression that you were just targeting kids in general. My bad. I know a lot of oldsters dismiss the younger generation, which is why I spoke up about it. It's all cool.
Opal Isle
03-11-2004, 00:44
In 1992, when I was in elementary, Bush won by an overwhelming majority. Little kids don't hear a whole lot about people who aren't the incumbent and are more likely to vote for the incumbent based off of name recognition.
Naomisan24
03-11-2004, 00:45
64% for Kerry at my school. Nader was off the ballot cus my principal doesn't like him.
Sith Jedi
03-11-2004, 00:48
the web site kerrysabouchebagbutimvotingforhimanyway.com is frighteningly acurate.

Hey....... That site doesn't even exist.......



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Sith Jedi
03-11-2004, 00:53
I don;t know why Bush supporters have to be so cruel if I wish to support Kerry...such biggots. So now if they ask what party I think I'm part of, I just say Libertarian.

See, that is what I hate about you liberals, you all stereotype, and don't even realize it! Heh, I always got a kick out of doing that... anyways, not all of us Bush supporters are mean people... I even think Kerry has some of the right ideas, but where does all the money come from?
Zervok
03-11-2004, 00:59
It is kind of stupid to do it so early. I mean you should definatly have it in high school, but elementery wont show anything.
Comdidia
03-11-2004, 01:01
My stupid high school did that and Nader won. 761 votes for Nader, 54 For bush and 74 For kerry. The other 400 were spread out over the rest of those other parties so its NADER IN 04 baby!
Eastern Coast America
03-11-2004, 01:05
Kerry won here by 6 votes. Yes, six.

I bet all you pro bush guys are only there cuz your parent's want bush to win (unless your older than 18, then I'll shut up).
Neo Alansyism
03-11-2004, 01:10
Their were a few Bush people. But me and some black guys scared them to death, so they were to afraid to even speak. ;) Big strong repbulicans? How about perverted, angry, selfish people.
Notquiteaplace
03-11-2004, 01:15
My stupid high school did that and Nader won. 761 votes for Nader, 54 For bush and 74 For kerry. The other 400 were spread out over the rest of those other parties so its NADER IN 04 baby!

thats because when you remove the huge ads targeted at adults, the policies decide things. Unlike in real life.

I mean like last time the election will be bought.

But if the parties had more compressed funding (ie based on % vote, but with maybe $100mil total) it would be a fairer election, while silly parties wouldnt get a vote. Or go further, just ban ads and propaganda and just keep it to fact sheets and a few handouts distributed in equal numbers with every parties manifesto on.

The turnout would be tiny, but who cares? the elections would be decided on politics and not on who has the best ads and stupidest fan base.

Kerry is a fraud and a turd.. but bush is a moron (IQ 95) who doesnt see that the military is there to defend and that precise strikes and making friends will save more lives than attacking every potential threat with huge bombs o death. If Bush was in NS hed have been 0wnd by AMF by now.
Whest and Kscul
03-11-2004, 01:19
Lol, Neo Al...

...I noticed most Repubs here call Kerry phony. Would you prefer a phony candidate or an ignorant, two-sided, one-dimensional, no-nothin', bible-totin' TEXAN (harsh, now I'm getting inappropriate, nah j/k :D )....Not that any of your Bushies know what two-sided means..
Sith Jedi
03-11-2004, 01:22
Their were a few Bush people. But me and some black guys scared them to death, so they were to afraid to even speak. ;) Big strong repbulicans? How about perverted, angry, selfish people. I eat poop.


Hmm... racism there... not to mention more stereotyping... :gundge:
Sith Jedi
03-11-2004, 01:24
Lol, Neo Al...

...I noticed most Repubs here call Kerry phony. Would you prefer a phony candidate or an ignorant, two-sided, one-dimensional, no-nothin', bible-totin' TEXAN (harsh, now I'm getting inappropriate, nah j/k :D )....Not that any of your Bushies know what two-sided means..

and again more stereotyping... what is with you all!?
Cruhad
03-11-2004, 01:25
my high school voted and Kerry won landslide. Of course we are in Massachusetts. The write in candidates got a lot including flav a flav(sp?) and David Ortiz
Neo Alansyism
03-11-2004, 01:28
Hmm... racism there... not to mention more stereotyping... :gundge:

The use of the word "poop" is possibly the most childish idiotic thing I have ever seen on NS. It isn't racist. I'm sick of these assholes calling everything racist. I was on the side of the blacks.

I said "Bush is a racist piece of shit."

The black guy stood up and walked to the front of the class room. The teacher wasn't there so he said "Who's voting for Kerry?"

Then he said "who's voting for that mother fucker Bush". Everyone was too indimated.

Serves you nazi basterds right for keeping blacks away at the polls.
Sith Jedi
03-11-2004, 01:35
The poop thing, a joke... dumbass... and I never said you were being racist to the african-american youth... and you damn democratic peoples are the ones saying that everybody is racist and african-americans don't get representation (that is towards you directly neo-al we of the Republic party, mostly, are consistent with what we say, unlike Kerry.)

Don't know if you are caught up with your history lessons... apparently not, but slavery has ended... and african-americans can vote. Oh wait, your just a brainless zombie... you just believe what you are told... so, since I know you are one, as you like Kerry, go jump in a septic tank... it increases... good...ness.
Notquiteaplace
03-11-2004, 01:40
yeah, but thats not because they dislike the black man. Its because they dislike the Kerry voter and most black peoplw will vote Kerry, even more so after actions like this...
Sith Jedi
03-11-2004, 01:40
The racist was you assuming all african-americans are better than all other americans, and you should make room on your "most childish idiotic thing" list because the use of profanity to describe a president of the United States just took its place. Would you mind learning to spell to? You say you are in high school, it seems as if you are a sixth grader.

Oh, and just to make you feel stupid- to translate to your "slang"- you just got told by a junior.
Neo Alansyism
03-11-2004, 01:43
No I just think all liberals are superior beings. They aren't selfish, violent, hypocrits like your kind.
Neo Alansyism
03-11-2004, 01:44
The racist was you assuming all african-americans are better than all other americans, and you should make room on your "most childish idiotic thing" list because the use of profanity to describe a president of the United States just took its place. Would you mind learning to spell to? You say you are in high school, it seems as if you are a sixth grader.

Oh, and just to make you feel stupid- to translate to your "slang"- you just got told by a junior.

Well you see Mr. Dumbass I am in middle school.
Sith Jedi
03-11-2004, 01:45
yeah, but thats not because they dislike the black man. Its because they dislike the Kerry voter and most black peoplw will vote Kerry, even more so after actions like this...

I'm afraid I don't understand... how would my argument with neo al make them dislike Bush? I don't dislike the Kerry voter, but I don't agree with there insight in the situation, however I do not like neo al because of the fact that he is most likely one who calls himself a "gangster".
Notquiteaplace
03-11-2004, 02:01
I meant the party there. You know, telling the balck people they cant vote when they can. Only the black people I add, because they are more likely to be Democrats.

That said there has been foul play on the democrat side.

Like I said, the whole system is completely rotten.
Neo Alansyism
03-11-2004, 23:48
I'm afraid I don't understand... how would my argument with neo al make them dislike Bush? I don't dislike the Kerry voter, but I don't agree with there insight in the situation, however I do not like neo al because of the fact that he is most likely one who calls himself a "gangster".


I have never called myself a gangster. I just like Black America's politics better.