NationStates Jolt Archive


Who cares who wins?

Prognostia
02-11-2004, 20:31
What America really needs is to get rid of these right wing hippies, and go back to Capitalism. The only truly fair Policy. Share your viewpoints here if you want.
Bungeria
02-11-2004, 20:33
Last I checked, not only were hippies left wing but the USA can't "go back" to capitalism because it has never been any more capitalist than it is today.
Keruvalia
02-11-2004, 20:34
What America really needs is to get rid of these right wing hippies

What is a "right wing" hippy?
Biff Pileon
02-11-2004, 20:37
Ah yes.....just another who has no idea what the US is nor has any understanding of the country except what TV and movies bring him/her.
Prognostia
02-11-2004, 20:38
Actually we are very far from being a capitalistic society, we are in a socialist standing. Do you pay for welfare and income tax? Then you can't say we are anything close to capitalism. Are most schools run by the Government? Then you can't say we are capitalistic either. We are growing closer and closer to communism if you ask me
Natural Choice
02-11-2004, 20:39
What America really needs is to get rid of these right wing hippies, and go back to Capitalism. The only truly fair Policy. Share your viewpoints here if you want.
Go back to sleep.
Prognostia
02-11-2004, 20:39
Last I checked, not only were hippies left wing but the USA can't "go back" to capitalism because it has never been any more capitalist than it is today.
No hippies are definitely right wing
Prognostia
02-11-2004, 20:40
Go back to sleep.
I think i answer for everyone when i say "wha fuh"?
Keruvalia
02-11-2004, 20:42
No hippies are definitely right wing


So all those long haired, pot smoking, no bathing, tree bark eating, PETA loving, anti-corporate America, pro-homosexual, wiccan, anti-establishment people vote Republican?!?

What America are you in, buddy?
Crazy Japaicans
02-11-2004, 20:43
No hippies are definitely right wing

Nope. Hippies are definately left wing. Plus, communism and socialism is far left wing. So either you have right wing and left wing mixed up, or you have no idea what you're talking about. Have a nice day, dumbass :)
Anatania
02-11-2004, 20:46
Actually we are very far from being a capitalistic society, we are in a socialist standing. Do you pay for welfare and income tax? Then you can't say we are anything close to capitalism. Are most schools run by the Government? Then you can't say we are capitalistic either. We are growing closer and closer to communism if you ask me

Um no!!, we are definettly not socialist, do you realise how much income disparity there is, we aren't even close, yeah we may give out welfare, but the schools are not run by the government at all exept for the ocasional standardized test. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Bungeria
02-11-2004, 20:47
Actually we are very far from being a capitalistic society, we are in a socialist standing. Do you pay for welfare and income tax? Then you can't say we are anything close to capitalism. Are most schools run by the Government? Then you can't say we are capitalistic either. We are growing closer and closer to communism if you ask meActually we as as far from a socialist economy as we are from a capitalist economy. It is what is known as a "Mixed Economy". You know, like every other economy in the world, ever.
Prognostia
02-11-2004, 20:48
actually i think you have it mixed up but hey, that isn't the issue, the issue was if you think capitalism is what america needs or not.
Prognostia
02-11-2004, 20:49
Um no!!, we are definettly not socialist, do you realise how much income disparity there is, we aren't even close, yeah we may give out welfare, but the schools are not run by the government at all exept for the ocasional standardized test. You have no idea what you are talking about.
school tax is collected from the government
Bungeria
02-11-2004, 20:51
actually i think you have it mixed up but hey, that isn't the issue, the issue was if you think capitalism is what america needs or not.
school tax is collected from the government
You are allowed to write more than one sentence in a single post, you know. Lots of people do it. Try.
Anatania
02-11-2004, 20:51
But schools are still not government run, althought they have some influence.
Phoenix Protectorate
02-11-2004, 20:51
This is moronic. The United States follows some socialist, but more capitalistic economic procedures. Schools are run by the fed and/or state government. While I'm sure there is such a thing as a right wing hippy, the current war hawks who run the country are in no way hippies, nor do they follow any of the ideals of the "lost generation."

What do you mean for the country to go back to capitalism? That doesn't make much sense, as we live in a fairly liberal country in regard to economics.
Los Banditos
02-11-2004, 20:55
This guy does have a point. The term "hippies" is short for hypocrite and I would say there are some of those in the Republican party. However, it is our culture that has made "hippy" into the pothead, treehugging sort.
Novus Arcadia
02-11-2004, 20:56
Prognostia has a point, but allow me to point out that the United States is very much a capitalist nation, with many socialist tendancies. Indeed, these leanings toward socialism are quite dangerous, if taken to an extreme, but so is capitalism.

Social Security - one of the worst institutions of all time, in my opinion; whil the United States cannot, of course, be an isolationist state, it should practice these words, making them reality: "Independently standing on our own ability to create a highly-efficient economy; independent families who have no need of governmental intrusion into their lives and wallets."

This is very idealistic, but it has always been my understanding that once an ideal has been selected, it should be reached for at all cost, and compromises should be avoided at all cost, because they may only serve to create a simulation, but not an ideal; but, unfortunately for the United States, it is based on three things: "compromise, compromise, and compromise."
Anatania
02-11-2004, 21:08
A warning: By this next statement I'm not trying to bash anyone, I'd just like to know.

If the government funds school and is so socialist, then why are Cleveland city schools 600 million dollars in debt, no lie, look here (http://www.clevelandschools.org/newannual%20report.html). As you see none of their schools met the no child left behind requirments. Although from I looked at I can't find a budget report, I'm sure if you looked hard enough you could find one. But just explain that to me, please.
Petsburg
02-11-2004, 21:09
What is a "right wing" hippy?

Exactly what i was thinking. It's an oxymoron. Like Left-wing gun nut :D
Bungeria
02-11-2004, 21:21
Exactly what i was thinking. It's an oxymoron. Like Left-wing gun nut :DActually a left wing gun nut is very possible.
Litch
02-11-2004, 21:22
It's always easier to follow an ideology than to think. We lie to ourselves and to each other just to avoid it and keep the world reined in to our perfect little black and white microcosms.
Anatania
02-11-2004, 21:22
Yeah really, ever hear of the "Red Army"
Riven Dell
02-11-2004, 21:23
This guy does have a point. The term "hippies" is short for hypocrite and I would say there are some of those in the Republican party. However, it is our culture that has made "hippy" into the pothead, treehugging sort.

I dare you to find me three live people who haven't been hypocritical in their lives. And now for some lexicon knowledge:

The term "hippy/hippie" was a term created by people outside the original subculture commonly known by that name. The people within the culture originally called themselves "heads" hence the term "head shop" is generally used to refer to a store where one might buy "water pipes" and the like. Furthermore, the etymology of the word cites the root as "hip" which was, at the time, a colloquialism describing something that was in fashion, like today's "cool" or the "swell" of the fifties.

hippie
c.1965, Amer.Eng. (Haight-Ashbury slang), from earlier hippie, 1953, usually a disparaging variant of hipster (1941) "person who is keenly aware of the new and stylish," from hip "up-to-date" (see hip (adj.)).