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Kerry blames lower test score than Bush on drinking.

Natural Choice
02-11-2004, 18:12
Kerry is a drunk!

Brokaw: Kerry Blamed Low IQ Score on Drinking

John Kerry told NBC newsman Tom Brokaw last week that the reason President Bush outscored him on military intelligence tests was that he had likely been drinking the night before his exam.

Brokaw revealed Kerry's off camera excuse in an Election morning interview with radio host Don Imus.

"I asked the question of John Kerry because the New York Times had reported that a man by the name of David Sailer had analyzed their military aptitude tests and then had, had IQ experts do an analysis as well - or the Times did," the NBC anchorman explained. "And they concluded that George W. Bush might be a point or two higher than John Kerry in IQ."
Brokaw continued:

"And John Kerry was caught a little off guard, he said. 'Well, more power to him. I thought that, that was not public.' And when the interview was over he said, 'I must have been drinking the night before I took that military aptitude test.'"

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/11/2/95008.shtml
Andaluciae
02-11-2004, 18:14
oh my
Natural Choice
02-11-2004, 18:17
The guy takes no blame. He can't accept that Bush schooles him all the time.
Zeppistan
02-11-2004, 18:26
Of course... the real question is: Did Kerry REALLY say that afterwards?


Or did Dan Rather get a memo about that from some anonymous source in Texas....



:D
The True Right
02-11-2004, 18:28
Of course... the real question is: Did Kerry REALLY say that afterwards?


Or did Dan Rather get a memo about that from some anonymous source in Texas....



:D

Yes he did. I heard and watched it happen on TV.
Hammolopolis
02-11-2004, 18:29
Two things.

1) Its Newsmax. Get a half way decent news source. 'nuff said.

2) You try taking a test with a hangover. Its not fun. :p
Zeppistan
02-11-2004, 18:31
Yes he did. I heard and watched it happen on TV.


Ummm - the story itself states that this comment was supposedly made by Kerry off-camera AFTER the televised interview.


Nice try though....
The True Right
02-11-2004, 18:33
Ummm - the story itself states that this comment was supposedly made by Kerry off-camera AFTER the televised interview.


Nice try though....

They didn't cut soon enough. Nice try though.
Zeppistan
02-11-2004, 18:38
They didn't cut soon enough. Nice try though.

Bullshit. here is the transcript (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6354942)


Brokaw: Someone has analyzed the President's military aptitude tests and yours, and concluded that he has a higher IQ than you do.

Kerry: That's great. More power. I don't know how they've done it, because my record is not public. So I don't know where you're getting that from.

Brokaw: Do you think he's a smart man?

Kerry: I do. Yes, I do think he's a smart man.

Brokaw: Do you think too many people in your party underestimate?

Kerry: I think people have always underestimated President Bush. But I'm proud that in those debates, I didn't underestimate him.

Brokaw: Senator, I'm going to see the President over the weekend. Anything you want me to convey to him?

Kerry: Just say hello to him, and we'll chat on Tuesday.

Brokaw: I'll say to him what I'm going to say to you. Good luck.

Kerry: Thank you, sir.

Brokaw: Thank you.




I watched it too.
SigmaPhiEpsilon
02-11-2004, 18:39
Two things.

1) Its Newsmax. Get a half way decent news source. 'nuff said.

2) You try taking a test with a hangover. Its not fun. :p


Newsmax is a very biased source of information, however their reporting is top-notch. The things that they unearth and talk about are usually things the rest of the media doesn't pick up on until much later. For instance, I knew about the controversey of The Passion almost 8 months before I saw any of it anywhere else, and that was only from their E-mail list.
Demographika
02-11-2004, 18:42
So they were both drunk at one time in their lives; big deal. I doubt Kerry was an alcoholic and a drug-taker though.
Anal style donkeys
02-11-2004, 18:45
Wow ... So Kerry Got Drunk

Havn't we all

and arn't you forgetting Bush's drinking problems here
Snowboarding Maniacs
02-11-2004, 19:06
Not only that, but it says Bush scored "a point or two" higher. Who gives a rat's ass??? One test isn't an accurate representation of a person's IQ anyway, you need to take multiple tests to get a decently accurate idea of a person's intelligence.
Siljhouettes
02-11-2004, 19:07
Bullshit. here is the transcript (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6354942)

I watched it too.
Why are you even arguing about this?

I think this is a great opportunity to point and laugh at Americans.

Hhaha, jokes on you guyz! Whoever you vote for, you'll end up with a former alco as president? Put that in your vodka bottle and umm, drink it! (?)
The Black Forrest
02-11-2004, 19:13
Why are you even arguing about this?

I think this is a great opportunity to point and laugh at Americans.

Hhaha, jokes on you guyz! Whoever you vote for, you'll end up with a former alco as president? Put that in your vodka bottle and umm, drink it! (?)

Sorry Lad, Gave up Vodka.

Just a Whiskey Drinker and a Guiness Drinker! ;)
Kryozerkia
02-11-2004, 19:17
So, if Kerry was hungover when it wrote it, imagine how much better he would have done if he hadn't. ;) he gave Bush an advantage there...
Bodies Without Organs
02-11-2004, 19:22
Why are you even arguing about this?

I think this is a great opportunity to point and laugh at Americans.

Hhaha, jokes on you guyz! Whoever you vote for, you'll end up with a former alco as president? Put that in your vodka bottle and umm, drink it! (?)

Danger! Potential pot/kettle colour challenge interface area!

An Irishman making fun of the Americans because their President may have once had a hangover?
Pibb Xtra
02-11-2004, 19:25
Danger! Potential pot/kettle colour challenge interface area!

An Irishman making fun of the Americans because their President may have once had a hangover?

Oh this racism is killing me! lol.

But seriously. It's well known Bush was a cokehead before Laura cleaned him up. The revelation that Kerry drinks aint gonna shock anyone.
The Black Forrest
02-11-2004, 19:25
Danger! Potential pot/kettle colour challenge interface area!

An Irishman making fun of the Americans because their President may have once had a hangover?

My what prejudice!

All Irishmen are drunks!

Did I say that with a straight face? :p
Bodies Without Organs
02-11-2004, 19:29
All Irishmen are drunks!

That's not what I said, merely what you infered.
Bodies Without Organs
02-11-2004, 19:30
Oh this racism is killing me! lol.

Two points:
1. The Irish are not a race.
2. Most Irish politicians have been hungover at some point in their lives.

Explain to me the racism, would you?
Zeppistan
02-11-2004, 19:35
Why are you even arguing about this?

I think this is a great opportunity to point and laugh at Americans.

Hhaha, jokes on you guyz! Whoever you vote for, you'll end up with a former alco as president? Put that in your vodka bottle and umm, drink it! (?)


I made a joke ... and somebody posted an out and out lie. I don't like that, and so that was what was worth responding to by pointing it out. The fact that he tried bullshitting his way through it was even more pathetic than the inital lie.


Up until then, I was going for the humour in the situation too.
Bodies Without Organs
02-11-2004, 19:39
Why are you even arguing about this?

NS General just wouldn't be the same if people stopped arguing indefensible positions concerned with trivia, now, would it?
The Black Forrest
02-11-2004, 19:39
That's not what I said, merely what you infered.

Oh BWO, you need a drink! :p
Natural Choice
02-11-2004, 19:46
Guam has voted for the winner for the last 20 plus years.

PRESIDENTIAL RACE
• George W. Bush 17,264
• John Kerry 9,540
• Ralph Nader 153
• Campagna Badnarik 53
Bodies Without Organs
02-11-2004, 19:46
Oh BWO, you need a drink! :p

Nah, when I start drinking that is when I get really pedantic. Look out for the badly typed postings I make around 4am for examples...
Big Jim P
02-11-2004, 21:09
I scored 142 drunk as a monkey. Wow.
BastardSword
02-11-2004, 21:18
Two points:
1. The Irish are not a race.
2. Most Irish politicians have been hungover at some point in their lives.

Explain to me the racism, would you?
Some facts you should know: Because everyone needs to know :)
Alcohol doersn't affect the Irish as much as it does everyone else. Alcoholism affects Native Americans worse than everyone else.
TheMidlands
02-11-2004, 21:22
Kerry: Idiot or drunk?
Which is actually better?
Gymoor
02-11-2004, 21:36
Gee. I guess no one thinks John Kerry has a sense of humor. I know if I scored lower on an IQ test than George W Bush, I'd probably say something like, "I must have been drinking last night."

Notice Kerry didn't say, "I've been drinking for 3 months straight."

Or, "I drank so much last night, I think I slept with the chubby lady from CNN who is covering my campaign."

O even, "Tom, do you have a tic-tac? I've been drinking so much recently my breath smells like a wino's ass."
Big Jim P
02-11-2004, 21:55
Gee. I guess no one thinks John Kerry has a sense of humor. I know if I scored lower on an IQ test than George W Bush, I'd probably say something like, "I must have been drinking last night."

Notice Kerry didn't say, "I've been drinking for 3 months straight."

Or, "I drank so much last night, I think I slept with the chubby lady from CNN who is covering my campaign."

O even, "Tom, do you have a tic-tac? I've been drinking so much recently my breath smells like a wino's ass."

The most accurate political Ad yet.
Areyoukiddingme
02-11-2004, 22:37
Kerry: Idiot or drunk?
Which is actually better?
Probably Both.
I prefer the drunk.