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Is the MTV crowd really behind Kerry?

Sukafitz
02-11-2004, 16:38
A widespread assumption that young Americans watching MTV may be more prone to vote for John Kerry for president over George W. Bush could be highly off target, as Kerry's daughters received prolonged booing at the network's Music Video Awards in Miami.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images2/kerrydaughters1.jpg
"From the moment Alexandra and Vanessa started speaking, the boos outweighed anything close to cheers. At one point one of the daughters even held her finger to her mouth in an effort to 'shush' the rowdy crowd. The boos only grew louder when the daughters suggested that the best choice for a president in this year's election should be their father."

The jeering is reminiscent of another rude welcome for a politician three years ago on MTV's sister network, VH-1. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., received a large amount of booing during a charity event raising money for the families of victims of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

John Kerry himself was booed in his hometown as he threw out the first pitch in Fenway Park before the start of the Boston Red Sox-New York Yankees game tonight.
The Broab
02-11-2004, 16:55
Maybe it's not so much that people are specifically against Kerry as that they're tired of politicans trying to muscle in on other events to use as an election platform? If people are going out to music awards, they probably want to hear music and see musicians rather than have to listen to politicians' propaganda. Ditto sports events. Perhaps people jsut feel that they're suffering from political overkill because the race is so tight and each side is trying to exploit every opportunity.
Sukafitz
02-11-2004, 16:55
Speaking to CNN afterward, Vanessa Kerry said the booing had "scared" her, but added, "We're fighting for something so strongly, I will go up there and hear the whole arena boo if it means connecting with one person."
Boy Milking
02-11-2004, 17:00
I thought that was the Bush twins. Or at least that's what I heard.
Sukafitz
02-11-2004, 17:03
I thought that was the Bush twins. Or at least that's what I heard.

The Bush twins weren't there.
Legless Pirates
02-11-2004, 17:07
I think we would notice a very large crowd of youngsters standing behind Kerry.
Biff Pileon
02-11-2004, 17:12
The main problem with the MTV crowd is that many of them cannot identify the current VP or even John Edwards. They are sadly uninformed. I did not see any of them at my polling place and there are 3 colleges within 5 miles of it.
Powerhungry Chipmunks
02-11-2004, 17:16
The main problem with the MTV crowd is that many of them cannot identify the current VP or even John Edwards. They are sadly uninformed. I did not see any of them at my polling place and there are 3 colleges within 5 miles of it.
Maybe it's too early. when were you there? Those college kids and their parties and all night raves and animal involving wild org--er--I mean, all night reading and intensely successful study groups ;)...
The Broab
02-11-2004, 17:21
They are sadly uninformed

If they are it is because politicians fail to address them or their issues in any way other than a parents-know-best style. It's a vicious circle - young people do not vote because politicians do not try to involve them in politics, so the politicians don't bother to try and talk to or understand them since if they don't vote it would be a waste of precious campaigning time. Young people are certainly not stupid and if they are apathetic it is not through choice.
Biff Pileon
02-11-2004, 17:24
Maybe it's too early. when were you there? Those college kids and their parties and all night raves and animal involving wild org--er--I mean, all night reading and intensely successful study groups ;)...

That may be it.....but being the father of one (my oldest just turned 20 yesterday) I know that what they SAY they will do and what they ACTUALLY do are two seperate things. I did see a group of them outside UCF waving Bush and Kerry signs at traffic. However, with 40,000 students at UCF and only about 8 out there it does not look like they are too involved.

Micheal Moore, Leonardo DiCaprio and others hit UCF hard the past couple of weeks to stir things up too. I wonder what affect that might actually have.
La Terra di Liberta
02-11-2004, 17:34
Personally, young people are too concerned with pop culture these days and seem to see no value in voting, which is sad. Hopefull they will show up tp vote but we shall have to wait and see..........
Legless Pirates
02-11-2004, 17:35
Personally, young people are too concerned with pop culture these days and seem to see no value in voting, which is sad. Hopefull they will show up tp vote but we shall have to wait and see..........
isn't about 50% of all America not interested in voting?
Stroudiztan
02-11-2004, 17:41
They were booing because the Bush girls are more attractive. Don't try to put brains in the mostly empty heads of the MTV crowd.
La Terra di Liberta
02-11-2004, 17:46
isn't about 50% of all America not interested in voting?



True, although alot of people that don't even vote still have strong opinions on whats happening. I think youth do, although I don't think they're as vocal.
Grave_n_idle
02-11-2004, 17:53
A widespread assumption that young Americans watching MTV may be more prone to vote for John Kerry for president over George W. Bush could be highly off target, as Kerry's daughters received prolonged booing at the network's Music Video Awards in Miami.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images2/kerrydaughters1.jpg
"From the moment Alexandra and Vanessa started speaking, the boos outweighed anything close to cheers. At one point one of the daughters even held her finger to her mouth in an effort to 'shush' the rowdy crowd. The boos only grew louder when the daughters suggested that the best choice for a president in this year's election should be their father."

The jeering is reminiscent of another rude welcome for a politician three years ago on MTV's sister network, VH-1. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., received a large amount of booing during a charity event raising money for the families of victims of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

John Kerry himself was booed in his hometown as he threw out the first pitch in Fenway Park before the start of the Boston Red Sox-New York Yankees game tonight.

Maybe it's just the simple fact that the 'republicans' in the audience had no manners?

Or maybe it's because, unlike Republican Party Rallying, ANYONE is allowed into MTV, for example, without having to prove party affiliation.

Face it... if ANYONE was allowed into Bush's stump speeches, would he have had the 'approving' audience that was broadcast?

The sad thing is... a lot of people will buy into that hype. They may vote against Kerry JUST because of booing from the audience on MTV... they may vote FOR Bush, JUST because of the sounds of public acclamation at his stump speeches.
Darsylonian Theocrats
02-11-2004, 17:54
They were booing because the Bush girls are more attractive. Don't try to put brains in the mostly empty heads of the MTV crowd.
That's an unfair generalization.. but I don't disagree with you entirely. I thinka prior poster was closer to the truth. People are tired of it. If I go to a movie theatre, I go to see a movie, not watch commercials.. and yet, not they are are there, more than ever. I quit watching broadcast television to escape the BS of it all, and now I'm forced to deal with it in a venue I not only choose, but must pay for?

So, yeah, if I'm at an event to enjoy the music and observe the winners of a MUSICAL AWARDS SHOW, you can damn well bet I'd boo Kerry's girls, or the Bush twins equally well.

Unless Jenna takes her top off. That's a sure way to get a few cheers, even if it'll have no effect on the vote.
Chodolo
02-11-2004, 22:03
A widespread assumption that young Americans watching MTV may be more prone to vote for John Kerry for president over George W. Bush could be highly off target, as Kerry's daughters received prolonged booing at the network's Music Video Awards in Miami.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images2/kerrydaughters1.jpg
"From the moment Alexandra and Vanessa started speaking, the boos outweighed anything close to cheers. At one point one of the daughters even held her finger to her mouth in an effort to 'shush' the rowdy crowd. The boos only grew louder when the daughters suggested that the best choice for a president in this year's election should be their father."

The jeering is reminiscent of another rude welcome for a politician three years ago on MTV's sister network, VH-1. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., received a large amount of booing during a charity event raising money for the families of victims of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

John Kerry himself was booed in his hometown as he threw out the first pitch in Fenway Park before the start of the Boston Red Sox-New York Yankees game tonight.
I'm sure if it had been the Bush daughters running their propoganda they would have gotten booed as well.
Opal Isle
02-11-2004, 22:17
I think we would notice a very large crowd of youngsters standing behind Kerry.
Ninja youngsters. Ninja youngsters. They all took lessons from Solid Snake too...so we might see a large crowd of flipped over cardboard boxes behind him...maybe...
Sdaeriji
02-11-2004, 22:19
They were wearing too much clothing for the MTV crowd. Women aren't supposed to be that covered.
Opal Isle
02-11-2004, 22:20
That's an unfair generalization.. but I don't disagree with you entirely. I thinka prior poster was closer to the truth. People are tired of it. If I go to a movie theatre, I go to see a movie, not watch commercials.. and yet, not they are are there, more than ever. I quit watching broadcast television to escape the BS of it all, and now I'm forced to deal with it in a venue I not only choose, but must pay for?
I work in a movie theater. One time, on a slow day, an asshole came out and complained about the same thing to me. He said "I paid $5.50 to come see a movie not to watch commercials damnit." How did I respond? "How much is your cable bill?" You pay for commercial television and watch those commercials in just the same way you pay for movies and watch commercials (unless you're like me and not only don't pay for the movie but also sit down right as the trailers finish because I've got awesome timing).
The Force Majeure
02-11-2004, 22:22
No one over 15 watches MTV. So it doesn't matter.
Stephistan
02-11-2004, 22:24
The Bush twins weren't there.

Actually yes they were there via satellite at the same time the Kerry girls were on stage.. so who knows who they were boo'ing at.

All indication is that the MTV kids do support Kerry in fact, Zogby did a poll of cell phone users 18-29 it was Kerry 55% Bush 40% , so I think it's safe to say yes, they are indeed for Kerry by a majority. ( sampling was of 6,000 cell phone users)
Sussudio
02-11-2004, 22:25
MTV viewers won't vote for either candidates. The station spends the last 20 years gathering up all of the less than intelligent youth of America, spends 24 hours a day telling how cool it is to be drunk, lazy, ignorant, and apathetic and then expects them to get out and vote? And miss TRL? Not likely.
Chess Squares
02-11-2004, 22:26
Maybe it's not so much that people are specifically against Kerry as that they're tired of politicans trying to muscle in on other events to use as an election platform? If people are going out to music awards, they probably want to hear music and see musicians rather than have to listen to politicians' propaganda. Ditto sports events. Perhaps people jsut feel that they're suffering from political overkill because the race is so tight and each side is trying to exploit every opportunity.
stop trying to lie to further your own goals

we all know MTV doesnt play music