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Who wants to argue abortion!!!

Chodolo
02-11-2004, 07:29
yeah, start the flamefest!!! Use totally unsubstantiated blanket assertions, generalizations, and personal opinion!!!
Arammanar
02-11-2004, 07:30
yeah, start the flamefest!!! Use totally unsubstantiated blanket assertions, generalizations, and personal opinion!!!
Shut up babykiller. Go back to giving John Kerry hot monkey sex.
Jebustan
02-11-2004, 07:32
yeah, start the flamefest!!! Use totally unsubstantiated blanket assertions, generalizations, and personal opinion!!!

Babykiller!!! Every night, I pray to Jesus to kill you.:sniper:
Nordisch
02-11-2004, 07:34
:mp5:

I think abortions are necessary. This world allows too many really stupid people to breed. There are a lot of people who I don't feel are even capable of actually raising a child.
Preebles
02-11-2004, 07:35
I'm a babykiller too!
It was an ambush! Chodolo was the bait. DOWN WITHTHE CHRISTIAN RIGHT!!!!!!! :mp5:
Nordisch
02-11-2004, 07:35
Babykiller!!! Every night, I pray to Jesus to kill you.:sniper:

Do you have any idea how hypocritical that is? :headbang: Why don't you try thinking about what you're going to say before you actually say it? :upyours:
Arammanar
02-11-2004, 07:36
Do you have any idea how hypocritical that is? :headbang: Why don't you try thinking about what you're going to say before you actually say it? :upyours:
I think he was talking about his Mexican mercenary. Who also hates abortions.
Hesparia
02-11-2004, 07:39
Anyways, abortions are horrible. If you want to know my opinion, check out the "what's wrong with abortions" thread.
Dobbs Town
02-11-2004, 07:45
Who wants to argue abortion?

I don't. I want it freely available and nothing more said about it unless it's someone wanting to make an appointment with her doctor.
Arammanar
02-11-2004, 07:47
Who wants to argue abortion?

I don't. I want it freely available and nothing more said about it unless it's someone wanting to make an appointment with her doctor.
And I want the right to freely shoot anyone I determine inconvenient. I'll give you your wish if you give me mine.
Isanyonehome
02-11-2004, 07:48
Babykiller!!! Every night, I pray to Jesus to kill you.:sniper:


Does Jesus do that? Is it like a request line on the radio? Maybe its kinda like pay per view... I think I am getting an understanding of the donation box at church now.
Dobbs Town
02-11-2004, 07:52
And I want the right to freely shoot anyone I determine inconvenient. I'll give you your wish if you give me mine.

I think my 'wish' differs from yours insofar as mine can be realized while yours dwells in the realm of fantasy. I'd be most surprised if you'd help to realize my 'wish' in any event.
Arammanar
02-11-2004, 07:53
I think my 'wish' differs from yours insofar as mine can be realized while yours dwells in the realm of fantasy. I'd be most surprised if you'd help to realize my 'wish' in any event.
Your obstinance is inconvenient. :p
Chodolo
02-11-2004, 07:59
Shut up babykiller. Go back to giving John Kerry hot monkey sex.
This coming from the guy who'd like to do Ann Coulter...*shudder* :p
Arammanar
02-11-2004, 07:59
This coming from the guy who'd like to do Ann Coulter...*shudder* :p
Hey, I have weird fetishes...not really, I think she's fairly attractive, I was mainly saying it to see if Alanysists would have a seizure.
Chodolo
02-11-2004, 08:06
Hey, I have weird fetishes...not really, I think she's fairly attractive, I was mainly saying it to see if Alanysists would have a seizure.
LMAO! :p

I've had an idea for awhile that really makes no sense, but seems to be true. Conservatives tend to think conservatives are more attractive, liberals tend to think liberals are attractive. MKULTRA finds Teresa Kerry more attractive than Laura Bush. MunkeBrain finds just the opposite (I believe he called Teresa Kerry an ugly abomination of bitches, or something like that).

Oh, and in case anyone couldn't tell, this is a joke thread. Too much abortion threads. Sheesh. :p
Shaed
02-11-2004, 08:07
There is no 'child' involved in abortions, because the correct term is fetus, embryo, zygote. If you are referring to all inter-womb stages in general, using 'infant' will help you avoid looking like a brainwashed fool (same applies to the use of 'baby'.

There is no 'victim' involved in abortion, because to be a victim you must be aware that 'bad things' are happening to you. All non-health-related abortions occur before the fetus HAS A BRAIN, so it is not a victim.

Abortion is not murder, because murder a) must be illegal (abortion isn't), b) must be of a human being (debate exists as to whether fetuses are) and c) must be against the 'victim's' will (see point above).

A woman cannot be forced to donate an organ to save a life, unless we make EVERYONE donate organs to save lives, even if they do not consent and actively seek to NOT donate organs. Same for blood, while we're at it.
Arammanar
02-11-2004, 08:08
LMAO! :p

I've had an idea for awhile that really makes no sense, but seems to be true. Conservatives tend to think conservatives are more attractive, liberals tend to think liberals are attractive. MKULTRA finds Teresa Kerry more attractive than Laura Bush. MunkeBrain finds just the opposite (I believe he called Teresa Kerry an ugly abomination of bitches, or something like that).

Oh, and in case anyone couldn't tell, this is a joke thread. Too much abortion threads. Sheesh. :p
Yeah, out of all the abortionists, I think I have the most respect for you, since you're fair and logical. But let's keep this from being serious. I think both Laura and Teresa are not my idea of attractive, but the Bush twins or the Kerry daughters? Ooo, that'd be hot. Wait, the Bush twins AND the Kerry daughters! That'd make for some weird pillow talk.
Arammanar
02-11-2004, 08:09
There is no 'child' involved in abortions, because the correct term is fetus, embryo, zygote. If you are referring to all inter-womb stages in general, using 'infant' will help you avoid looking like a brainwashed fool (same applies to the use of 'baby'.

There is no 'victim' involved in abortion, because to be a victim you must be aware that 'bad things' are happening to you. All non-health-related abortions occur before the fetus HAS A BRAIN, so it is not a victim.

Abortion is not murder, because murder a) must be illegal (abortion isn't), b) must be of a human being (debate exists as to whether fetuses are) and c) must be against the 'victim's' will (see point above).

A woman cannot be forced to donate an organ to save a life, unless we make EVERYONE donate organs to save lives, even if they do not consent and actively seek to NOT donate organs. Same for blood, while we're at it.
You're right. Let's kill all comatose people, since they aren't aware of their environment. And I would wager that a fetus, a zygote, or an infant has more brain matter than you.
Peopleandstuff
02-11-2004, 08:15
Wait, the Bush twins AND the Kerry daughters! That'd make for some weird pillow talk.

4 for the bed of one, wouldnt that just complicate the issue when they all wind up pregnant...? :p
Chodolo
02-11-2004, 08:22
Yeah, out of all the abortionists, I think I have the most respect for you, since you're fair and logical.
I would say the same thing about you. :)

But let's keep this from being serious. I think both Laura and Teresa are not my idea of attractive, but the Bush twins or the Kerry daughters? Ooo, that'd be hot. Wait, the Bush twins AND the Kerry daughters! That'd make for some weird pillow talk.
I must cross the great partisan divide...Bush twins are way hotter than the Kerry daughters. *thumbs up* :D
Shaed
02-11-2004, 08:25
You're right. Let's kill all comatose people, since they aren't aware of their environment. And I would wager that a fetus, a zygote, or an infant has more brain matter than you.

Uh, you CAN kill comatose people, if they aren't expected to recover and are on life-support. It's called pulling the plug; well, if I'm talking about it using disphamisms, it is at any rate. You can legally have life-support turned off if they are brain dead. And I think 'brain dead' is roughly equivilent to 'not having a brain at all'.

Zygotes are a mere handful of cells. Not only do they not have brains, they don't have ANY organs. How about that.

Embryos are almost ditto, except they are larger, and have the beginnings of organs. Still no brains though.

Fetuses don't have brains until between, I believe, 18-21 weeks. Hence that being the cut off date for elective abortions.


Now, if you seriously think I have the same physical amount of brain matter as any of those forms of infants, you really *really* should go read up on human anatomy before trying to debate.
Arammanar
02-11-2004, 08:25
I must cross the great partisan divide...Bush twins are way hotter than the Kerry daughters. *thumbs up* :D
Yeah, but the brown haired one, Alex I think, she's like .9 Bush daughter's hot.
Arammanar
02-11-2004, 08:26
Now, if you seriously think I have the same physical amount of brain matter as any of those forms of infants, you really *really* should go read up on human anatomy before trying to debate.
A comatose person has brain matter, he just isn't using it. That was more or less my point.
DeaconDave
02-11-2004, 08:32
What was wrong with the old system? A bottle of gin and a rusty coathanger, that's all that's needed. The younger generation has absoutely no self-reliance.
Shaed
02-11-2004, 08:32
A comatose person has brain matter, he just isn't using it. That was more or less my point.

A comatose person cannot be killed unless they are brain dead.

That's the comparison you can make, and that comparison *does*, in fact, line up with the stance on abortion (no functioning brain = not illegal)
Arammanar
02-11-2004, 08:32
What was wrong with the old system? A bottle of gin and a rusty coathanger, that's all that's needed. The younger generation has absoutely no self-reliance.
In my day, we didn't have gin and coat hangers, we had skim milk and spoons. And we were damn happy about it.
Arammanar
02-11-2004, 08:34
A comatose person cannot be killed unless they are brain dead.

That's the comparison you can make, and that comparison *does*, in fact, line up with the stance on abortion (no functioning brain = not illegal)
You don't need total brain death, in fact some people can say they want to be pulled whenever they lose consciousness, even if it looks like they'll recover. Let's just compromise and kill anyone with an IQ below 80.
DeaconDave
02-11-2004, 08:35
Skimmed milk!!!

Oooh! I would have killed to have even seen skimmed milk when I was a young'un. We used to have to collect spit in a bottle and pretend it was milk.
Shaed
02-11-2004, 08:37
You don't need total brain death, in fact some people can say they want to be pulled whenever they lose consciousness, even if it looks like they'll recover. Let's just compromise and kill anyone with an IQ below 80.

'Some people say' does not have any influence on legality. You simply cannot do it.

A low IQ is different to having no physical brain.
Goed
02-11-2004, 10:01
Two reasons dem chickas are better :p

1) Who's ever heard of a nice piece of elephant?

2) Rudi Bakhtiar :D
Arammanar
02-11-2004, 10:13
'Some people say' does not have any influence on legality. You simply cannot do it.

A low IQ is different to having no physical brain.
In this case it does influence legality; if your living will states you wish to die at X time, you are allowed to die. Even if you have brain function.