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In his most recent tape, Osama bin Laden says that any state voting for Bush will not be spared from terrorism.
To him I say: Just try screwing with Wyoming, you sonuvabitch. Wyomingites will mow down everything you send at them, you camel-humping bastard. :sniper:
Vote Bush. He will bring justice to these crazy people, if you can call them that.

Not that we needed a reminder, but Osama's full of it. ;)

First off, the rich live in Blue states, and have all the major landmarks and metropolitan areas: Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Philadelphia (probably), etc. We have a few, but nothing like the targets in the Blue states.. including all of D.C., which is the most Democrat-voting of all, by percentage. In other words, Osama has no choice but to attack a Blue state, if he wants to make Page One. Nice try, Habeeb. ;)

so osama is throwing his support behind kerry lol

i mean come on what would happen if we had a 9-11 under kerry what would be the responce i'm sure terasa would be off on her gulwing5 to swissland with soros to have a swaray on terriorism lol

Not only that...the full Osama tape was 18 minutes long, and al-Jazeera only played 6 minutes, in which Osama bin Hidin' makes all sorts of threats. However, the other 12 minutes of that tape were spent bemoaning the situation in which al-Qaeda finds itself (i.e., mostly disbanded) and the situation in Afghanistan (i.e., free elections, very little disruption from Taliban or Qaeda forces, more freedom for women...) But, read this article for some perspective (http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/33063.htm).

Bottom line, Osama needs a little goat cheese to go with all the whine in his tape.

Bottom line, Osama needs a little goat cheese to go with all the whine in his tape.

Yup. And it just so happens to be goat season here in California, delayed only slightly by the recent rain. (For my goats at least, not for all goats). Still, he can come and get it. :p

well this sends a god message dont F withthe USA! =-)

so osama is throwing his support behind kerry lol

i mean come on what would happen if we had a 9-11 under kerry what would be the responce i'm sure terasa would be off on her gulwing5 to swissland with soros to have a swaray on terriorism lol
well this sends a god message dont F withthe USA! =-)
Hey George, how's Laura? :p

well this sends a god message dont F withthe USA! =-)

Yup. Screw with us and you'll end up backed into a corner, ranting like a loon to try and inspire confidence in what's left of your demoralized command..

Kinda like democrats later today, bobbing up and down, backed into corners all across the U.S., mumbling their mantra "he's a strong closer.. he's a strong closer.. he's a strong closer.. he's a strong closer..." ;) :cool:

Would anyone really change their vote because of some tape Osama puts out? :rolleyes:

Would anyone really change their vote because of some tape Osama puts out? :rolleyes:
you'd be amazed

Would anyone really change their vote because of some tape Osama puts out? :rolleyes:

Actually, yes. I know a few who have.

Would anyone really change their vote because of some tape Osama puts out? :rolleyes:
Ask John Kerry...after all, he did run a poll after the tape came out, just to make sure he knew what to say about it. Kinda like Clinton.

Ask John Kerry...after all, he did run a poll after the tape came out, just to make sure he knew what to say about it. Kinda like Clinton.
Offer some proof from a non-biased source that he did. Kerry's side denies it.

so osama is throwing his support behind kerry lol

i mean come on what would happen if we had a 9-11 under kerry what would be the responce i'm sure terasa would be off on her gulwing5 to swissland with soros to have a swaray on terriorism lol

Personally i think he would want Bush to win; and thats just a ploy to make us think he favors Kerry so we vote for Bush. Considering Bush has pulled out
many troops from afiganistan to fight in the Iraq war. The Iraq war did not harm Alquada or Osama, only enrage more muslims(and everyone else) to hate the U.S. so recruitment and sympathy for terrorist fighting agaisnt "The Imperalist Satan" would go up.

laura is fine . i cant wait . i jsut think as bush second term this tape made me happy . because this means the prick wasnt vaporized in a bombing raid witch mean sometime in the future we can catch the prick alive ! this would be great bush catchs the guys then in 2007 the new WTC opens caping off a great US presedenty

Osama endorsed Kerry. He professes that anyone voting for Bush will become a terrorist target and anyone who votes for Kerry will be offered protection from his seregates. Clearly, he is more afraid of Bush then Kerry. Bush will kill him in time and Osama clearly knows it now.

Wow, that's an interesting translation. Who pulled that one out of their ass? His tape actually said that any state that didn't threaten the security of Muslim nations didn't have to worry about their security. He made no mention of voting either way and in fact belittled both major candidates. Way to try spin that into a partisan issue. Don't you guys have any morals at all?

Osama endorsed Kerry. He professes that anyone voting for Bush will become a terrorist target and anyone who votes for Kerry will be offered protection from his seregates. Clearly, he is more afraid of Bush then Kerry. Bush will kill him in time and Osama clearly knows it now.
Osama bin Laden is an intelligent man. He is not stupid enough to let on that Bush scared him, even if he did. bin Laden is playing a game with the American people as he knows Bush's lunatic warmongering in the Middle East is the perfect propaganda for Al-Queda - "look what the Americans are doing to your Muslim brothers". For every innocent Arab killed in Iraq, there is another family looking for revenge against America. That's playing right into Al-Queda's hands.

Osama endorsed Kerry. He professes that anyone voting for Bush will become a terrorist target and anyone who votes for Kerry will be offered protection from his seregates. Clearly, he is more afraid of Bush then Kerry. Bush will kill him in time and Osama clearly knows it now.
Ah, so you're a mind reader now.

laura is fine . i cant wait . i jsut think as bush second term this tape made me happy . because this means the prick wasnt vaporized in a bombing raid witch mean sometime in the future we can catch the prick alive ! this would be great bush catchs the guys then in 2007 the new WTC opens caping off a great US presedenty
Dark Fututre?

Osama endorsed Kerry. He professes that anyone voting for Bush will become a terrorist target and anyone who votes for Kerry will be offered protection from his seregates. Clearly, he is more afraid of Bush then Kerry. Bush will kill him in time and Osama clearly knows it now.

Osama is a very intelligent human being. He knows he won't get votes for kerry by telling americans to vote for him, or to not vote for bush. He is manipulating america to vote for bush. Its a perfect example of reverse psychology.

Also, Osama is doing fine. He is getting more support than ever, with the situation in iraq and all. We have taken out 75% of his original command, but he has recruited alot more, and promoted many of the lower people. He clearly wasn't fearful, or desperate in the video.

His message is quite straightforward. He doesn't want war. He wants security. If america would stop its actions in the middle east, then they wouldn't need to attack us. Notice how that works out for so many other countries? Nations that do unjust things, nations like russia, america, etc, have to worry about terrorism most. There are always unhappy groups, some who commit terrorism, but I havn't seen a belgian patriot act. They don't need it.

The thing that bothers me most about the most recent Osama threat is that I had a chance to watch Al-Jazeera news (in arabic, which I speak) and see the entire 20 minutes of the tape and then I had a chance to watch CNN news which obviously had a translator for what Osama was saying. It saddened me to see that we get fucked and lied to because maybe about 2% of what Osama said was translated correctly and the rest was dismissed for whatever reason they felt like dismissing it. It bothers me to see that America only gets half of the story, a partly accurate translation of shit that affects us all. We get left in the dark, don't ever really know what's going on and all for what reason??? Oh, because we're being "protected". Fuck that! I want an accurate translation, and a full one. I want to know exactly what these sons of bitches are saying, what they say their reasons are and all other information. I don't give a fuck if the government or who ever else doesn't want us to know....if it affects us and the country we live in, then we deserve to know.

By the way, to anyone who thinks that Bush isn't helping Osama get support, don't you think that Osama helped get Bush a helluvalotta support? Look at approval ratings before and after 9/11.

The thing that bothers me most about the most recent Osama threat is that I had a chance to watch Al-Jazeera news (in arabic, which I speak) and see the entire 20 minutes of the tape and then I had a chance to watch CNN news which obviously had a translator for what Osama was saying. It saddened me to see that we get fucked and lied to because maybe about 2% of what Osama said was translated correctly and the rest was dismissed for whatever reason they felt like dismissing it. It bothers me to see that America only gets half of the story, a partly accurate translation of shit that affects us all. We get left in the dark, don't ever really know what's going on and all for what reason??? Oh, because we're being "protected". Fuck that! I want an accurate translation, and a full one. I want to know exactly what these sons of bitches are saying, what they say their reasons are and all other information. I don't give a fuck if the government or who ever else doesn't want us to know....if it affects us and the country we live in, then we deserve to know.
I agree, We should have acess to full and Correct translations of all the tapes. Also If there was some way to get algazeera here in the US properly translated it would help everyone understand the mindset of the average middle eastern muslim(or at least what that news networks says they think). Good or Bad it would give a new perspective on all the US is doing in the throughtout the world and would perhaps invoke a chang in US policy.
FREE SPEECH! (well at least here in the US) Now about those Aliens mr President.......... ;)

Didn't the tape say that if we stopped supporting Israeli and attacking Muslim nations they would not attack us.....Now how did the Right Wing manage to translate that statement into "Don't vote for Bush or we will attack, vote for Kerry"...I remember Osama saying that your safety isn't in Bush, Kerry, or Al-Qaeda's hands, they are in the American public hands.....I don't know why you guys bash Kerry so much, I remember Bush saying "I don't know where Osama is, and I don't really care, he's not our #1 priority".....(He said that in a live press conference, look it up)...Besides jihading terrorists have no regard for their lives or anyone elses lives if they die for "allah"....so how is Bush scaring them with death?????

Bottom line, Osama needs a little goat cheese to go with all the whine in his tape.

mmmmm goat cheese.

Would anyone really change their vote because of some tape Osama puts out? :rolleyes:

My buddy just did today well Nov 1st. And he is Muslim and lives in Florida.

He is voting Bush by the way.

edit: and a Jewish friend of mine(up here in NY) who always voted Democratic before and in 2000(he was in Jersey then)

were being lied to ? we need arabs to tell what the truth is .


wel let me tell u how the normal american think . we dont like terriost andif u attack us we will kick the piss out of u . u remind me of some of the libs we have in the uS after 9-11 they ran out to buy muslem books i ran out to buy a glok . and why should we the US bow down to Hitler in a head scraf ? if anything why dont u go tell the muslems to worry about what the average americans think . casue i can tell u now i dont give a rats arse what they think . and appessment on the leval of chamblans wont defeat the terrist threat . nor will wind bags at the UN or in Geneva lol

Personally i think he would want Bush to win; and thats just a ploy to make us think he favors Kerry so we vote for Bush. .

Yeah, because he has done so well under Bush.

Pre bush, if Osoma wanted to make the news, he blew something up. He didnt need or want to sent video tapes.

4 years of Bush later, he has to send video tapes saying conform "or else" really, I mean it. This might be my 20th tape in the last couple of years but I really mean it this time.

My buddy just did today well Nov 1st. And he is Muslim and lives in Florida.

He is voting Bush by the way.

edit: and a Jewish friend of mine(up here in NY) who always voted Democratic before and in 2000(he was in Jersey then)
I guess fear does work wonders.

were being lied to ? we need arabs to tell what the truth is .


wel let me tell u how the normal american think . we dont like terriost andif u attack us we will kick the piss out of u . u remind me of some of the libs we have in the uS after 9-11 they ran out to buy muslem books i ran out to buy a glok . and why should we the US bow down to Hitler in a head scraf ? if anything why dont u go tell the muslems to worry about what the average americans think . casue i can tell u now i dont give a rats arse what they think . and appessment on the leval of chamblans wont defeat the terrist threat . nor will wind bags at the UN or in Geneva lol
That's right, as long as their skin is dirty and they've got a towel on their head, that sand-nigga's getting a fuckin' cap in his ass from my glock.[/sarcasm]

i was making the point that since they dont care what i think i dont care what htey think if they attack me more i will strick back harder and harder .

well since u couldnt anser in anyway other then sarcasim i must be right . and when u start demanding that muslem carewhat us amercans think and muslems start going out and buying copys of the Bill of rights then maybe your argument that i should listen to muslem opion polls would hold more water . but sence your idea is that the US do as we are told or else lol us rich evil zionist captlist pigs will meet allas flame and will e cast into the neather reagions of hell unless we go to the Un and buy hybread cars lol

maybe we could take away womens right to make them evan happyer lol

i have muslems friends and am half black so trying to make me out as racest for hating people thatare racest is a mute point lol

I guess fear does work wonders.

I dont think it was fear as much as their recognition that if Osama has to send video tapes instead of bombs then G.W. must be doing something right.

no no he is tryng to trick us into voting bush so he can attack us agean and get his ass kicked agean . then we will see . lol

This Liberta guy has to be a satirical puppet. :confused:

This Liberta guy has to be a satirical puppet. :confused:
Either that or George Dubya is trawling political forums looking to pick up last-minute swing voters.

Either that or George Dubya is trawling political forums looking to pick up last-minute swing voters.

what, all four of them?

edit: two of whom have been dead since the 60's

what, all four of them?

edit: two of whom have been dead since the 60's
Well I'd expect the dead to vote Bush, just to stick it to the living one last time ;)

Well I'd expect the dead to vote Bush, just to stick it to the living one last time ;)


Historically, the dead vote Democratic. This figure might be skewed by Mayor daleys outstanding "get out the vote" effort though.

Historically, the dead vote Democratic. This figure might be skewed by Mayor daleys outstanding "get out the vote" effort though.
Well Democrats also tend to vote Dead. (Mel Carnahan vs. John Ashcroft), so maybe it's a favour for a favour arrangement...

Well Democrats also tend to vote Dead. (Mel Carnahan vs. John Ashcroft), so maybe it's a favour for a favour arrangement...

lol

Maybe I can write a thesis on Democrats and the 7th level of hell.

were being lied to ? we need arabs to tell what the truth is .


wel let me tell u how the normal american think . we dont like terriost andif u attack us we will kick the piss out of u . u remind me of some of the libs we have in the uS after 9-11 they ran out to buy muslem books i ran out to buy a glok . and why should we the US bow down to Hitler in a head scraf ? if anything why dont u go tell the muslems to worry about what the average americans think . casue i can tell u now i dont give a rats arse what they think . and appessment on the leval of chamblans wont defeat the terrist threat . nor will wind bags at the UN or in Geneva lolWow! I'm speachless, there's so much to work with here I don't know where to start. I'll settle with saying that anyone who can't spell "Glock" shouldn't be allowed to shoot one. Better you buy a book than a gun dude, they have them with pictures to help you through the tough parts.


I bet you forgot to take your medication today, didn't you.

Wow! I'm speachless, there's so much to work with here I don't know where to start. I'll settle with saying that anyone who can't spell "Glock" shouldn't be allowed to shoot one. Better you buy a book than a gun dude, they have them with pictures to help you through the tough parts.


I bet you forgot to take your medication today, didn't you.

Then again, guns help you get through people who tell you to read books.

The thing that bothers me most about the most recent Osama threat is that I had a chance to watch Al-Jazeera news (in arabic, which I speak) and see the entire 20 minutes of the tape and then I had a chance to watch CNN news which obviously had a translator for what Osama was saying. It saddened me to see that we get fucked and lied to because maybe about 2% of what Osama said was translated correctly and the rest was dismissed for whatever reason they felt like dismissing it. It bothers me to see that America only gets half of the story, a partly accurate translation of shit that affects us all. We get left in the dark, don't ever really know what's going on and all for what reason??? Oh, because we're being "protected". Fuck that! I want an accurate translation, and a full one. I want to know exactly what these sons of bitches are saying, what they say their reasons are and all other information. I don't give a fuck if the government or who ever else doesn't want us to know....if it affects us and the country we live in, then we deserve to know.I guess that worries me too...
too bad "being lied to" does not worry most Amerikans...maybe deep inside...all they want is to kick some Brown ass...maybe the Gov lies allows the hypocricie to contimue...allows them to keep talking about "pursuing" worldwide democracy and justice

I wonder if anyone realises the osama tape was a cynical ploy to earn support for bush... if everyone learns osama is against bush, people will vote bush. I'm sick of all these republican ploys to gain support... But at least Bush didn't make Osama materialise out of nowhere...

www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SA1404

That sight shows the speech, as you will see with the correct ending translation, it is a specific threat against Bush supporters. I love how Dem's are spinning this as if he were endorsing Bush. He is making threats on Bush supporters and offering peace to Kerry supporters. He is singling out US states which leads to believe he is aware of our Electoral College system. I like how the Dem's are saying its an endorsement for Bush because it was Bush who really started going after him in the first place. Bush killed thousands of his men, 75% of his original leadership and has caused him a lot of trouble. I doubt Osama would want four more years of that. Bush has proven he will go all the way to get Osama, Kerry's proven he cant make up his mind.

www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SA1404

That sight shows the speech, as you will see with the correct ending translation, it is a specific threat against Bush supporters. I love how Dem's are spinning this as if he were endorsing Bush. He is making threats on Bush supporters and offering peace to Kerry supporters. He is singling out US states which leads to believe he is aware of our Electoral College system. I like how the Dem's are saying its an endorsement for Bush because it was Bush who really started going after him in the first place. Bush killed thousands of his men, 75% of his original leadership and has caused him a lot of trouble. I doubt Osama would want four more years of that. Bush has proven he will go all the way to get Osama, Kerry's proven he cant make up his mind.

I'm no democrat. I'm a hater of all.

The only thing the last 4 years have proven is that all Politicians are useless and incompetent in conflict. I hate both bush and kerry. I am sick of politicians being useless. If I were in charge of the world, I'd kill anyone who opposed me and impose and iron fist rule. I'm effectively saddam without the mindless genocide.

Power is the only thing worth anything in this world. at least power can't betray you...

www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SA1404

That sight shows the speech, as you will see with the correct ending translation, it is a specific threat against Bush supporters. I love how Dem's are spinning this as if he were endorsing Bush. He is making threats on Bush supporters and offering peace to Kerry supporters. He is singling out US states which leads to believe he is aware of our Electoral College system. I like how the Dem's are saying its an endorsement for Bush because it was Bush who really started going after him in the first place. Bush killed thousands of his men, 75% of his original leadership and has caused him a lot of trouble. I doubt Osama would want four more years of that. Bush has proven he will go all the way to get Osama, Kerry's proven he cant make up his mind.WTF? I read it (again) and still fail to see where you get the threat aginst Bush supporters. You talk about spin but I think you've had too many rides on the Tilt-a-Whirl.

In his most recent tape, Osama bin Laden says that any state voting for Bush will not be spared from terrorism.
To him I say: Just try screwing with Wyoming, you sonuvabitch. Wyomingites will mow down everything you send at them, you camel-humping bastard. :sniper:
Vote Bush. He will bring justice to these crazy people, if you can call them that.
Bush brings justice to Osama by attacking countries that are unrelated to Al-Qaida? Lollol dream on, you nazi-neocon-religious fanatic.

Bush brings justice to Osama by attacking countries that are unrelated to Al-Qaida? Lollol dream on, you nazi-neocon-religious fanatic.
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I'm no democrat. I'm a hater of all.

The only thing the last 4 years have proven is that all Politicians are useless and incompetent in conflict. I hate both bush and kerry. I am sick of politicians being useless. If I were in charge of the world, I'd kill anyone who opposed me and impose and iron fist rule. I'm effectively saddam without the mindless genocide.

Power is the only thing worth anything in this world. at least power can't betray you...I think someone needs a nap,................. or an anti-depressant.

I think someone needs a nap,................. or an anti-depressant.

No-I just want power.

Well it's just the truth. Bush did everything to increase terrorism and to make the run to Al Qaida increase (no idea by how much but it did increase). Now we get terrorism threats in Europe and the U.S. are even more at risk of being nuked by a dirty bomb attack by terrorists and yet you claim he is the best to "fight terrorism". It's a travesty, if anything. The "war on terror" is a propaganda tool to keep the Americans obedient and in line so they suck up the removal of their civil rights left and right. Heil Bush Hitler Adolf for the 1st American Reich of the 21st century. Woohoo! (NOT!!!!)

In his most recent tape, Osama bin Laden says that any state voting for Bush will not be spared from terrorism.
To him I say: Just try screwing with Wyoming, you sonuvabitch. Wyomingites will mow down everything you send at them, you camel-humping bastard. :sniper:
Vote Bush. He will bring justice to these crazy people, if you can call them that.


He's not crazy enough to go after a world superpower like Wyoming is he? After all, they have almost 34 national guard troops standing by.

(don't hit me too hard, I live in Montana......)

In his most recent tape, Osama bin Laden says that any state voting for Bush will not be spared from terrorism.
To him I say: Just try screwing with Wyoming, you sonuvabitch. Wyomingites will mow down everything you send at them, you camel-humping bastard. :sniper:
Vote Bush. He will bring justice to these crazy people, if you can call them that.

Relax, you can't go out mowing down jet-planes.And if you try and mow a bomb it will blow.Take a sensible approach and disable it first.If you were given free reign,Wyoming would be dust.

If Osama wants to vote, let him become an American citizen.

:rolleyes:

If Osama wants to vote, let him become an American citizen.

:rolleyes:



Actually, I believe he is registered in Florida as a republican.......

Osama endorsed Kerry. He professes that anyone voting for Bush will become a terrorist target and anyone who votes for Kerry will be offered protection from his seregates. Clearly, he is more afraid of Bush then Kerry. Bush will kill him in time and Osama clearly knows it now.It's funny. When a UK tabloid runs something that lets typical British people say "you know what we think?" you get opinions (probably cherry-picked, but still apparently pervasive) saying "What the F*** do we care?", and even globalvote2004 (http://www.globalvote2004.org) gets "Quit trying to meddle in US affairs, you stinking liberals!", yet when Osama (who, we must remember is one man with an apparent mission to destablise the US) makes a comment, you take it at face value and let it affect the way you (or at least some of you) vote.

Not a flame, not an insult, just that if you want to ignore what the world says, don't let OBL influence you either. I wouldn't be surprised if he's using reverse psychology on you, but as I can't say for sure it's safest to ignore it and go with your gut feelings than risk being pushed in the 'wrong' direction by falling for any influence (subtle or unsubtle).

(Didn't someone previously mention the scene in Princess Bride? It's quite possible that Osama considers both main options as poisoned chalices for the American peoples, and all he's doing is sh*t-stirring for the sake of it!)

I dont think it was fear as much as their recognition that if Osama has to send video tapes instead of bombs then G.W. must be doing something right.It isn't the suicide bombs themselves that are 'influencing' the US population (beyond the immediate families, perhaps), it's the videos of such events.

Actions are one thing, and (as we saw three years ago) can be devastating, but it's the fact that everyone saw the towers collapse that really hit home. Seeing "the man most hated by America" on tape as expressing various well-worded platitudes and hints (possibly bluffs, possibly double-bluffs) about what the world should do now 'in his opinion' is a popwerful decision-making force. We've heard of people switching their votes for Bush, which means that something has happened due to the videos. I doubt many people will come out to say "I was voting Bush, but now I'm voting Kerry because of the video" (with the subtext "because I've seen through his reverse-psychology trick"). Is Kerry winning what he intended? Is Bush winning? Did he have any particular intention in mind? Merely being seen as possibly affecting the outcome of the US election could give him the kudos (or even just ego-boost) he needs to keep on being as infamous as he seems to want to be...

Terrorism isn't about the explosions they cause, it's about the terror that is produced in the people who fear the explosions. It's also (in this day and age) a 'dark-side' PR excercise to convince people that you have more control over their lives than they do. By no means ignore it, but don't knee-jerk react to it, just sit down and think first.

He's not crazy enough to go after a world superpower like Wyoming is he? After all, they have almost 34 national guard troops standing by.

(don't hit me too hard, I live in Montana......)
:D almost 34

Well it's just the truth. Bush did everything to increase terrorism and to make the run to Al Qaida increase (no idea by how much but it did increase). Now we get terrorism threats in Europe and the U.S. are even more at risk of being nuked by a dirty bomb attack by terrorists and yet you claim he is the best to "fight terrorism". It's a travesty, if anything. The "war on terror" is a propaganda tool to keep the Americans obedient and in line so they suck up the removal of their civil rights left and right. Heil Bush Hitler Adolf for the 1st American Reich of the 21st century. Woohoo! (NOT!!!!)


lol wow well i have a few Qs i want u to anser ....

1. what rights have american citzens lost ?

2. what would be your soultion to terriorism besides being week and Listing to windbags at the UN ?

3. why r u critizes the US and NOT taking shoots at Islamo-fachisim

see the facts are the facts all u can do is scream slogans much like the sheep in animal farm . have fun evan with afganstan haveing there first votes in history and an iraqi vote soon in january still u cant see good in this . listen be a good german go back into the bathhouse get some more gov welfare and take another hit of X .

lol wow well i have a few Qs i want u to anser ....

1. what rights have american citzens lost ?
The Patriot Act has the potential to be incredibly limit civil rights.

2. what would be your soultion to terriorism besides being week and Listing to windbags at the UN ?
Explain to me how they failed to stop terrorism where we succeeded

3. why r u critizes the US and NOT taking shoots at Islamo-fachisim
Because there's already enough people attacking it. Like my english teacher says, "People are complaining about a stain in the carpet, and yet nobody asks "Why's there an elephant in the fucking kitchen?!"

see the facts are the facts all u can do is scream slogans much like the sheep in animal farm . have fun evan with afganstan haveing there first votes in history and an iraqi vote soon in january still u cant see good in this . listen be a good german go back into the bathhouse get some more gov welfare and take another hit of X .

That doesn't even deserve a response. Nice method of not making a point and instead randomly flaming.

If the Chimp gets re-selected, it becomes a major propaganda coup for Bin Ladin.

He'll basically get to tell the Middle East as a whole, "See? America re-elected Bush. That's your proof there that America is waging a war on Islam and Muslims."

What really blows my mind is the idea that most of the people who are debating this issue forget the following:

We have been attacked by various terrorist organizations for over 20 years.

We have tried appeasement, we tried ignoring them. We tried minor retaliation. None of it worked, friends. Not one single tactic listed has done us any good. I'm hitting Carter, Regan and Clinton. They all failed us on this issue. Sorry if that gigs your favorite President, but they did. I respect Regan tremendously for many things but he completely dropped the ball with Grenada.

Al-Qaeda's stated reasons for attacking the USA on 9/11 was to get us to leave Saudi Arabia. Why were we in Saudi Arabia? Anyone? Think carefully now... Because we were ASKED to be there as part of Desert Shield back when Kuwait was getting pillaged by Hussein.

You can argue about oil and Imperialism and all that baloney all day long but ultimately we were there because we were asked to be.

So up until that point, what had we done to prevent terrorism? We ran from it, ignored it, appeased it and generally sent a message to Terrorist organizations: The USA is a safe and easy target. There will be no real consequences and your likelihood of success is high.

Think about this a minute, folks. If the USA were getting attacked because we deserved it... because we were being oil hungry Imperialists... then tell me. Tell me please... How could the Soviet Union occupy Afganistan by force for 10 years and not one airplane has hit the Kremlin? Hmm?

The answer: Because Western culture, particularly that of the USA, is a severe threat to the extreme Islamo-facists who believe in Burkas and religious intolerance and bloodshed. They see the younger generations looking with envy at bluejeans and women with uncovered faces and rock music and most of all, freedom. Think about it. That scares the old school guys because they see it as a collapse of their ways. The Soviet Union was never that kind of threat. Nobody ever fled to the USSR for the chance at a new and successful life.

Don't bother reminding me of Chechnya. That is a separate issue entirely.

This is a cultural war, friends, and there's no way either side is going to win outright. All we can do is hold it together and ride it out. So how do we hold it together? Do we keep sticking our head in the sand and cringe whenever we get hit by terrorists like we did all through the 80s and 90s? No. We hit back. We take the fight to them. Anybody who says men and women are dying in Iraq and Afganistan in vain is missing the fact that these people are fighting and dying in the Middle East so that Americans don't have to die here in North America. The terrorists are flocking to Iraq to kill armed and organized Americans there. That is prferable to them flocking to New York City.

Our troops know that. The President knows that, and those of us who look at the situation with a little objectivity know it. That's why I voted for Bush.