What Would Make A Fight Scene For You?
New Foxxinnia
02-11-2004, 05:25
What would make a fight scene the coolest fight scene you've ever seen?
For me this would do me in:
The main character gets a sniper rifle in both hands and then starts blowing away people at a close proximity. Then when the rifles run out of ammunition they toss the guns into the air like battons and grab them by the barrel, and proceed by using them as melee weapons.
Kelonian States
02-11-2004, 05:29
Probably already been done, but with shotguns or rifles or somesuch. Why would they need sniper rifles at close range? Shotguns are a much cooler weapon.
Findecano Calaelen
02-11-2004, 09:07
Probably already been done, but with shotguns or rifles or somesuch. Why would they need sniper rifles at close range? Shotguns are a much cooler weapon.
the recoil would make it hard to take out a huge amount of people, I would go with some cool ninja's with swords and a bunch of martial art tricks
Cannot think of a name
02-11-2004, 09:15
Giant robots.
That's probably cooler in my head then it would be on film. A lot of things are like that.
I do like the Hong Kong influence on action sequences now, clear cut visible action versus the shaky 'you are there' confusing style that had been dominant. I hadn't really noticed the contrast as much until The League of Extraodinary Gentlemen came out using the same rapid jerky camera of the old style of filming action. This is a renaissance for fight choreographers, crappy for camera men and editors who have to work that much harder to put these violent ballets together.
Kellarly
02-11-2004, 10:59
<Tries to remember his AS Media Studies class>
ok for me you have to get the location right first, personally i would go on top of a tall building, ideally with a flat roof. in other words, lots of space to play around in, but no where to run and hide. also, it has to be a slightly overcast day, so no cheap "i got the sun in my eyes" excuses for the bad guy to lose.
secondly, have so decent clothes, no bruce willis jeans and a vest here. you gotta look cool to fight :D
thirdly weapons: guns are ok, but they kinda take some element of tension out of the fight, in which case close combat is far better (IMHO). personal preference would be swords, being a student of english martial arts, i would go for a single hand broadsword and dagger (not a namby pamby rapier and dagger), fast, light and extremely deadly when in the right hands (not mine in otherwords :p ) or hand and a half bastard sword, still light, flexible and just as deadly as anything out there. Katanas would do i suppose, but they not for thrusting and that always looks good on film.
so IMO a decent fight scene would start with a gun fight (twin pistols/hand guns of some sort caus it looks cool) at the bottom of a sky scraper, proceed up the fire escape and in lifts with glass windows, run out of ammo when they get to the roof, and now its down to h2h combat. obviously you need a bit of circling telling each other how they are going to die etc etc then launch at each other, cue Blade like ending sword fight (how cool was that btw) til the end. the death of who ever should be swift and none of the crappy "you may have killed me but i'll make a speach before i die" endings. :D
as for the camera, i think a variation of circling and close up shots would do very nicely
well theres my two pennies worth :D
Any sort of fight between Jareth the Goblin King and Dr. Frank-N-Furter.
Preebles
02-11-2004, 11:13
Any sort of fight between Jareth the Goblin King and Dr. Frank-N-Furter.
Jareth the Goblin King, was that David Bowie from the Labyrinth? That would be awesome. And i wub Frank-N-Furter. :p
Jareth the Goblin King, was that David Bowie from the Labyrinth? That would be awesome. And i wub Frank-N-Furter. :p
Exactly. David Bowie versus Tim Curry? Spectacular, if by spectacular one means bizarre and potentially scarring.
I'd like to see a big kung-fu fight scene, lots of Jackie Chan moves, suddenly brought to a quick and spectacular end by a Marine with a flamethrower...
Gidetisms
02-11-2004, 11:34
samaurais with katanas......
Kellarly
02-11-2004, 11:56
samaurais with katanas......
me thinks the last 30mins of The Last Samurai are your favourite fight scenes of all time then....
The Imperial Navy
02-11-2004, 12:16
My ideal fight scene?
2 hot ladies. Naked. In mud. :D
Kleptonis
02-11-2004, 12:26
Well, first of all it would have to be between two main characters who aren't the main hero and villain, because lets all admit it, in almost every single movie the hero and the villain are both complete pussies. It would be impossible to have a good fight scene with wimps. Also, using characters that aren't the hero or villain makes them easily disposable, unlike the main hero and villain, whose deaths would screw with the plot. Of course, they'd both have some sort of sunglasses, which is a necessity for any fight scene. One or both of them would have some sort of Matrix-esque overcoat, since an overcoat was enough to make even Keanu Reaves not look like he's a complete wimp. Neither of them would be wearing anything skintight. If they're awesome enough, they don't need to show off their muscles to prove it.
It would probably take place in a set of evacuated city streets, without any cars or people. Cars would be too easy to steal and ram the other guy with, and we can't have that. Of course, empty streets would leave open the possibility of one of them running, but as I already explained, these guys aren't wimps. They're there to kill the other guy, and aren't going to give up because the other guy shot them once or twice.
For weapons, cool guns are a necessity, but we shouldn't limit ourselves to that. No future weapons though, the point of a fight scene isn't to show off every special effect you can afford, and you can make the fight scene look awesome without them anyways. We'd probably give the bad guy a shotgun, and the good guy a pair of pistols. During the gunfight, bullet time and dramatic close ups would be used, but sparsely. Like I said, the key point of a fight scene isn't to show off special effects. For the same reason I'd try to avoid explosions. There's plenty of time to have explosions, and the fight scene usually isn't it. Of course, they're both going to eventually run out of ammo, and they both pull out some melee weapon, maybe swords, because they're probably the coolest ones, but I'm not sure what someone would be doing walking around with a shotgun and a sword.
So, the entire fight scene would start with the two fighters finding themselves looking down a city street at each other, like a modern day version of the old west shootout. Naturally, it will be raining for the entire scene. For suspense purposes, we'd switch temporarily to another plotline. Once we get back though, some sort of dramatic music would begin at this point. The street would probably contain whatever building they villain has chosen as his base of operations, and the hero is probably climbing up it right now to kill the villain, but that’s irrelevant. Both men would pull out their guns and quickly begin dodging and shooting. No long dialogue, possibly a few words, but nothing that would be enough to have someone sneak up and club either one. Both would get one nice shot of them shooting during bullet time, probably one right after the other, but mixing it up might be a good thing too. As I've already said, they run out of ammo, and pull out swords (probably katanas, I'm not sure why they both have swords and guns, don't ask, just drool at the blood). By this time they've both been hit a few times, so this is obvious that someone's getting killed, but again, for suspense, they'd need to switch to whatever plotline was going on. Once they get back, the two men would start slashing at each other, using as many fancy moves as they could, without looking like they're dancing more than fighting. That can look cool, but it can easily go from cool to ridiculous very easily. Eventually, the main character gets stabbed through the stomach by the bad guy, but doesn't look surprised, that would ruin the tension. Besides, the audience would probably be surprised enough for him. As time seems to stop, he would slowly pull the sword out of himself, and then stab through his opponent. He'd get up long enough to kick him off the sword, and then they'd both fall into a bloody heap. The camera would zoom out to them both lying on the ground dead, as their blood flows down the street.
Man, I gotta stop waking up at 4 AM. That was way too long.
Superpower07
02-11-2004, 12:45
Giant robots.
That's probably cooler in my head then it would be on film. A lot of things are like that.
But if it were animated . . . . Gundam!!!
Big Jim P
02-11-2004, 12:54
A giggling maniac setting off a nuclear bomb.
Superpower07
02-11-2004, 12:55
A giggling maniac setting off a nuclear bomb.
Sounds a bit Dr. Strangelove-esque to me
Refused Party Program
02-11-2004, 12:57
If it doesn't have Bruce Lee in it, it's not a fight scene. :D
The Imperial Navy
02-11-2004, 13:05
If it doesn't have Bruce Lee in it, it's not a fight scene. :D
So what is a fight without bruce lee? A tea party? :confused:
Refused Party Program
02-11-2004, 13:06
So what is a fight without bruce lee? A tea party? :confused:
Pretty much.
Moontian
02-11-2004, 13:07
I like spears and other pole weapons. Two people using short spears, very fast action, building up in intensity and speed until the final blow comes almost too fast to be seen.
The Imperial Navy
02-11-2004, 13:07
Pretty much.
Then pass the tea Vicar!
Big Jim P
02-11-2004, 13:13
Sounds a bit Dr. Strangelove-esque to me
But effectively, efficiently and quickly ending the fight.
Plus cool special effects!
:D
Findecano Calaelen
02-11-2004, 14:22
I like spears and other pole weapons. Two people using short spears, very fast action, building up in intensity and speed until the final blow comes almost too fast to be seen.
watch some of Jet Li's early movies.. ie before he went to hollywood
Jordaxia
02-11-2004, 14:39
Someone said spears. That'd be my second choice. My first choice? An AXE. Not a huge axe, but a bit bigger than a Tomahawk. Because you can fling that, and I don't want people flinging their weapons at each other. It'd probably involve the best bad guy ever, but he'd be in the background destroying something. I think the bad guy'd be Galactus. He wouldn't be fighting. It'd be an actually evil underling, instead of the morally ambiguous galactus. The underling would definitely have superagility and strength, and will use one big axe, as opposed to the good guy, who'll use two smaller ones. The fight scene will again be in the rain, but it won't be of too great a consequence. More perpetual drizzle than downpour. Because torrential downpour detracts from the beating up.
The two characters wouldn't have a long winded speech, but the bad guy would constantly taunt the good guy as he kicked the hell outta him. There'd never be too much actual contact with the axes, because they tend to kill, but there'd be a lot of parrying and attacking. Really aggressive stuff. Whilst all this was happening, there'd be a revelation concerning the good guy which would throw him off balance allowing the villain to hack one of his axe arms off. Then, given the immense pain caused, the villain would remove the head, and keep it. Fight over.
Alternatively, here's another one.
ALIENS VS GEORGE FOREMAN.
'nuff said.
Lunatic Goofballs
02-11-2004, 14:48
A giggling maniac setting off a nuclear bomb.
I'll see what I can do. :D
But for me, I'm liking the two naked ladies mud wrestling. Or better yet, ME mud wrestling two naked ladies.