NationStates Jolt Archive


Democrats Caught in IA voter fraud

Bozzy
02-11-2004, 04:33
(2003) Franklin County, with a population of
Male Population: Age 18+
342,503

Female Population: Age 18+
424,893

Total=767396

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1099087810653&call_pageid=970599119419

"strategists from both parties believe the race might conceivably hinge on Franklin County, where there are 857,000 registered voters"

...and the Democrats think it is silly to confirm voter legitimacy at the polls.

http://www.onnnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=2458796&nav=LQlCSEtr
Pepe Dominguez
02-11-2004, 04:36
They won't get away with it: in fact, they just reversed the decision in Ohio that banned Republicans from watching for voter fraud.. fraud will be minimal, and with Bush up 3-4 in FL and OH, it won't tip the balance. :)
Waynesburg
02-11-2004, 04:40
The board takes a person's word, that they're a U.S. citizen.
That's a scary thought.
Bozzy
02-11-2004, 04:41
That's a scary thought.
especially considering the voter in question was a terrorist!
Sdaeriji
02-11-2004, 04:44
Should that title read "Democrats Caught in OH voter fraud"? Otherwise I'm very confused as to what you're trying to show me.
Bozzy
02-11-2004, 04:47
Should that title read "Democrats Caught in OH voter fraud"? Otherwise I'm very confused as to what you're trying to show me.
DOH!

You're right! My bad! I claim sleplessness. Been a long day and had a few brewskis. Dang, what a tard mistake. Thanks for catching it. Too bad i cannot fix it.
Chess Squares
02-11-2004, 04:50
i say we just keep both parties as far away from the polls on election day as humanly possible and bring in relatively unbiased officials from other countries to watch the polls for fraud (relative compared to the two national parties who have a major stake in this polarized bullcrap)
Zaad
02-11-2004, 04:51
Meh. You don't see Libertarians pulling this crap. We actually try to work within the system...


Maybe that's our mistake... Viva La Reevaluation!

Then possibly, if the situation is dire enough, we'll use our big liberty-loving guns.

Viva La Revolution? Well...it is the one reason the 2nd amendment is there.
Incertonia
02-11-2004, 05:28
(2003) Franklin County, with a population of
Male Population: Age 18+
342,503

Female Population: Age 18+
424,893

Total=767396

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1099087810653&call_pageid=970599119419

"strategists from both parties believe the race might conceivably hinge on Franklin County, where there are 857,000 registered voters"

...and the Democrats think it is silly to confirm voter legitimacy at the polls.

http://www.onnnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=2458796&nav=LQlCSEtr
Gee, you don't think it's possible that some of those people who were once registered to vote might have moved because they couldn't find a job, or died, and failed to inform the registrar that they moved? And that perhaps some other people moved into the area and registered to vote, thereby raising the number of registered voters in the district to such a point where there are more registered voters than population? Come on, Bozzy--I'm sure if you look hard enough, you'll find Republican leaning districts with exactly the same situation.
DemonLordEnigma
02-11-2004, 05:35
You'll also find Republican-leaning districts throwing Democrat registrations into the trash, setting voting machines to give Bush an extra edge, and trying to make laws to prevent Democrats from voting. And that's based on what I've seen so far this year and from the last election.
La Terra di Liberta
02-11-2004, 05:42
This is ridiclious, the Republicans are looking for every opportunity to prevent potential democrats from voting. If the American people want change, give it to them and don't try to censor them. Democrats may be doing this but this is going both ways, believe me.
Hedross
02-11-2004, 05:42
You know, if you'd check into it a little more thoroughly, you'd find a place in France where the naked ladies dance, and if the Republicans had their way, there'd be a hole in the wall where Chirac could see it all.
New Auburnland
02-11-2004, 05:46
You'll also find Republican-leaning districts throwing Democrat registrations into the trash, setting voting machines to give Bush an extra edge, and trying to make laws to prevent Democrats from voting. And that's based on what I've seen so far this year and from the last election.

What the fuck have you seen that indicates voter fraud? You haven't seen shit. You only know what you heard from people.

so you haven't seen a damn thing. Not this election year, nor in 2000.
Jayzer
02-11-2004, 05:48
After reading all that has been written thus far in this thread, it leads me to belive that the way US election polling is done is in need of a major overhaul, one that removes all forms of Corruption and Voter fraud.
Euroslavia
02-11-2004, 05:59
After reading all that has been written thus far in this thread, it leads me to belive that the way US election polling is done is in need of a major overhaul, one that removes all forms of Corruption and Voter fraud.

That is simply impossible, in the US at least.
Anthrophomorphs
02-11-2004, 06:06
A good start, frankly, would be to completely wipe the voter registration lists after this election, and have every single citizen re-register, in person in some way, with proof of their citizenship brought with them. Repeat every, say, 8 years, or even 4 if you want.

Problem is, noone's ever going to agree to do that. Too many would cry out"the elderly/infirm wouldn't be able to register" rather then looking for ways to make the new idea work. You can send out people to collect said registrations.

Heck, if we can do a census every 10 years and, in theory, count every cingle person, we can do this alright.
Jayzer
02-11-2004, 06:07
That is simply impossible, in the US at least.

I understand to have a 100% Corrutipion free Election would be hard, maybe impossible... but the fact that Electoral Fraud is already being spoken about and party(s) are accusing each other before people have polled inidcates that something needs to be done.
DemonLordEnigma
02-11-2004, 06:15
What the fuck have you seen that indicates voter fraud? You haven't seen shit. You only know what you heard from people.

so you haven't seen a damn thing. Not this election year, nor in 2000.

The act of reading involves the sense of sight, and so does watching the news. Considering I got the first one from Fox, a known sock-puppet of the Republicans, I honestly doubt it's false. The middle one also comes from a story I've seen, surprisingly, on Fox. And the last one comes from one of my own family members trying to register to vote in Florida while I was living with them, and a news story I saw, on Fox, about a local area rejecting the registrations of a bunch of voters, mostly Democrats, because of the weight of the paper, and even one of them going far enough to call it fraud. I was one of the ones included in those who had to reregister, despite the fact the paper I used was from the same people who rejected it.

So, ask yourself this: Why is the sock puppet of the Republican Party having so many stories that disadvantage the Republicans and, until very recently, not a single one about the Democrats?

My advice: Don't tell what I have seen, little one, unless you have looked out my eyes.
Incertonia
02-11-2004, 07:32
The act of reading involves the sense of sight, and so does watching the news. Considering I got the first one from Fox, a known sock-puppet of the Republicans, I honestly doubt it's false. The middle one also comes from a story I've seen, surprisingly, on Fox. And the last one comes from one of my own family members trying to register to vote in Florida while I was living with them, and a news story I saw, on Fox, about a local area rejecting the registrations of a bunch of voters, mostly Democrats, because of the weight of the paper, and even one of them going far enough to call it fraud. I was one of the ones included in those who had to reregister, despite the fact the paper I used was from the same people who rejected it.

So, ask yourself this: Why is the sock puppet of the Republican Party having so many stories that disadvantage the Republicans and, until very recently, not a single one about the Democrats?

My advice: Don't tell what I have seen, little one, unless you have looked out my eyes.
Oooooh. That's gonna leave a mark, NA. :D
Isanyonehome
02-11-2004, 08:17
Meh. You don't see Libertarians pulling this crap. We actually try to work within the system...


Maybe that's our mistake... Viva La Reevaluation!

Then possibly, if the situation is dire enough, we'll use our big liberty-loving guns.

Viva La Revolution? Well...it is the one reason the 2nd amendment is there.

Thats why libertarians(or any third party) is so lost. They dont have the political MACHINES that the two parties have. These MACHINES reach down into every county and polling district in the country. Not easy to match.
Incertonia
02-11-2004, 08:24
Thats why libertarians(or any third party) is so lost. They dont have the political MACHINES that the two parties have. These MACHINES reach down into every county and polling district in the country. Not easy to match.
Impossible to match, I'd say, and a lot of that comes from a minimum of 150 years of existence and entrenchment and rigging of the rules by the big two parties to consolidate their power sharing arrangement. To try to create a viable third party int he US without a personality to base it around is a quixotic mission, to say the least, which is why even though I have as much in common with the Green Party as I do the Democrats, I stay with the Dems, because I have way more opportunity to get something accomplished with them.
Bozzy
02-11-2004, 23:45
You'll also find Republican-leaning districts throwing Democrat registrations into the trash, setting voting machines to give Bush an extra edge, and trying to make laws to prevent Democrats from voting. And that's based on what I've seen so far this year and from the last election.
Is that the story Dems are using to justify their election fraud? Not very comforting if you ask me. Fraud is fraud and reprehensible regardless. There can be no justification. There are legitimate ways to deal with a grievance, such as setting watchers at the polls. That idea retains integrity. I guess that is something new to the Democraps.
La Terra di Liberta
02-11-2004, 23:47
Is that the story Dems are using to justify their election fraud? Not very comforting if you ask me. Fraud is fraud and reprehensible regardless. There can be no justification. There are legitimate ways to deal with a grievance, such as setting watchers at the polls. That idea retains integrity. I guess that is something new to the Democraps.




Oh but your pristine little Republicans would never do anything wrong?
Bozzy
03-11-2004, 13:58
Oh but your pristine little Republicans would never do anything wrong?
So far every democrat complaint is about Republican tactics whcih are all based in current election law.