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We have all seen, hopefully, the many mistakes that Bush has made in office but why do some people seem to hate Kerry so much (besides the much overused flip-flopping "argument")?

All the Vietnam veterans I know can't stand the SOB.

He was dishonourably discharged from the forces and had Carter cover his tracks.

I got real sick of his negative ad campaign early in the start.

Kerry hated the Viet Nam war, an excellent position, because it was not right for that many people to die for a cause that has yet to be justified, much like the war in Iraq George Bush has gotten us into.

How could he have not shown the negative sides of Bush when all he has done is led our country dishonorably.

i don't hate him but i won't vote for him because he's too little of a man to stick to what he professes as his beliefs, you don't say one thing and do another.

Perhaps its what Kerry stands for? Abortion, affirmative action, big government...

Instead of only talking about the negative things surrounding Bush, he could talk about the positive things he would do - but you don't get that in his advertisments - those ads made me not like him first, and all of his lying pretty much sealed the deal.

Kerry hated the Viet Nam war, an excellent position, because it was not right for that many people to die for a cause that has yet to be justified, much like the war in Iraq George Bush has gotten us into.

What about World War II?

I dunno about "hate," but Pepe Dominguez knows a spineless hack when he sees one, and he sees one in John Kerry. The debates sealed it. Kerry has no long-term vision, most importantly, and his near-term goals are nothing more then mimicry, me-too-ism, and ridiculous entitlement spending propositions. That about covers it. ;)

I guess you dont know too many veterans from Viet-Nam there are many who like Kerry, there is a commercial out of a Viet-Nam veteran who was later a Viet-Nam embassador who was endorcing Kerry. Also Bush has horrible status with war veterans, he slashes veterans benefits and combat pay.

Veterans for Kerry!

Terrorists for Bush!

Perhaps its what Kerry stands for? Abortion, affirmative action, big government...

No Bush stands for big government, government size has actually INCREASED since he took office.

I dunno about "hate," but Pepe Dominguez knows a spineless hack when he sees one, and he sees one in John Kerry. The debates sealed it. Kerry has no long-term vision, most importantly, and his near-term goals are nothing more then mimicry, me-too-ism, and ridiculous entitlement spending propositions. That about covers it. ;)

How can one see Kerry as a spineless hack and not Bush for being an even bigger one? What has Bush done that anyone could support him for?

What about World War II?

"What about Gulf War I" is more like it.. ;)

If Kerry won't vote for a war backed by the entire UN, with the goal of defending an ally against an unprovoked agressor, when will he authorize force? He's a worm. :p

Everything John Kerry says he will do as president, he has voted for the opposite as a senator. George Bush is doing a terrible job, but why replace him with one more idiot?

Instead of only talking about the negative things surrounding Bush, he could talk about the positive things he would do - but you don't get that in his advertisments - those ads made me not like him first, and all of his lying pretty much sealed the deal.

Your crazy, Kerry has many positive ads for himself, your really something you know that, Kerry has so many positive commercials and a few negative commercials which is standard procedier, and you acuse the guy of lying, have you seen the Bush ads, he says to "keep American jobs in America" yet he cuts taxes to ship American jobs to other countries in Asia. You helped ME to prove MY point, thank you.

I guess you dont know too many veterans from Viet-Nam there are many who like Kerry, there is a commercial out of a Viet-Nam veteran who was later a Viet-Nam embassador who was endorcing Kerry. Also Bush has horrible status with war veterans, he slashes veterans benefits and combat pay.

Veterans for Kerry!

Terrorists for Bush!
Bush has increased spending for the Department of Veteran's Affairs greatly over the past four years...

I guess you dont know too many veterans from Viet-Nam there are many who like Kerry, there is a commercial out of a Viet-Nam veteran who was later a Viet-Nam embassador who was endorcing Kerry. Also Bush has horrible status with war veterans, he slashes veterans benefits and combat pay.

Veterans for Kerry!

Terrorists for Bush!

I know a lot of veterans, and they all hate Kerry, as do their vet friends. Vietnam vets who like Kerry are a very tiny minority.

No Bush stands for big government, government size has actually INCREASED since he took office.
That means Kerry dosen't? :rolleyes:

Everything John Kerry says he will do as president, he has voted for the opposite as a senator. George Bush is doing a terrible job, but why replace him with one more idiot?

Why dont you go to John Kerry.com I went to Georgewbush.com and JohnKerry.com, unlike you I like to see both sides. Whyt dont you go right now!

Sure maybe the entire U.N. supported the first Gulf War, but you cannot say that Iraq was an unprovoked agressor. Kuwait was drilling for oil across the border into Iraqi territory. When they didn't stop, Iraq invaded. I"m not saying what Iraq did was right, but just that they were not unprovoked.

Every post-Coolidge President has stood for big government.

"What about Gulf War I" is more like it.. ;)

If Kerry won't vote for a war backed by the entire UN, with the goal of defending an ally against an unprovoked agressor, when will he authorize force? He's a worm. :p

What about Chaney who would not support the release of Nelson Mandela, which the entire UN supported?

He was dishonourably discharged from the forces and had Carter cover his tracks.

do you get your info from lying republican hacks for bush or what? i haven't even herad that lie yet! you are such a liar

"What about Gulf War I" is more like it.. ;)

If Kerry won't vote for a war backed by the entire UN, with the goal of defending an ally against an unprovoked agressor, when will he authorize force? He's a worm. :p

wow those are pretty stupid facial stamps if your insulting someone. Yeah I have to agree, I dont know why he voted against the Persian Gulf war.

But, but , but He has a "plan". Don't forget Halliburton!!!!!!!!

Everything John Kerry says he will do as president, he has voted for the opposite as a senator. George Bush is doing a terrible job, but why replace him with one more idiot?

Because we KNOW George Bush is a failure at president...im willing to take any legit polotician over a person who brought our country to war by grossly misrepresenting the facts. Human life is more sacred than that. He sent those people to their deaths and to kill... I cannot respect that no matter what the cause. (yes i am aware that terrorists dont think like that. But frankly occupying an unstabe country isnt exactly gaining any allies)

i hate kerry because how is he gonna do the promises that he says he can do such as ill gave people jobs how is he gonna do that

sure bush made mistakes but kerry made more or atleast promises he says he will do


see the poor saps (leaders) we have to :headbang: :sniper: choose from

Bush has increased spending for the Department of Veteran's Affairs greatly over the past four years...

could there be more veterans? that's is like saying well there are more jobs then there were in the 1800's, duh, there is more people so more money must be spent, it's the amount spent divided by people who need money.

I know a lot of veterans, and they all hate Kerry, as do their vet friends. Vietnam vets who like Kerry are a very tiny minority.

My little brothers friends dad is a Persian Gulf veteran, he hated the war, and he has the classic "Persian Gulf syndrom" which I believe was cause by chemicals in the war, or if not that, some other thing in the war. Anyway he is unable to work or do anything like go on a rollercoaster, and he is voting for Kerry, do you know why?

Because Bush has cut the check he recieves from the government smaller, also he is against Bush for dodging the Nam draft, and creating a rich mans war.

SO HA!

Well at least Kerry puts ketchup on his kitties

What about Chaney who would not support the release of Nelson Mandela, which the entire UN supported?

Hah! Wow.. so Cheney's beliefs about Nelson Mandela are supposed to answer my questions about Kerry's foreign policy philosophy.. :confused: ;)

All I want to know is when, and under what circumstances, Kerry would defend our interests abroad.. and I can't answer the question after 3 debates, so it's over. :( :cool:

could there be more veterans? that's is like saying well there are more jobs then there were in the 1800's, duh, there is more people so more money must be spent, it's the amount spent divided by people who need money.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2005/images/va-2.jpg

Should be simple enough...

Hah! Wow.. so Cheney's beliefs about Nelson Mandela are supposed to answer my questions about Kerry's foreign policy philosophy.. :confused: ;)

All I want to know is when, and under what circumstances, Kerry would defend our interests abroad.. and I can't answer the question after 3 debates, so it's over. :( :cool:

uhh the only interests bush has defended are those of rich men, oil comanys, and godamm haliburton.

i hate kerry because how is he gonna do the promises that he says he can do such as ill gave people jobs how is he gonna do that

sure bush made mistakes but kerry made more or atleast promises he says he will do


see the poor saps (leaders) we have to :headbang: :sniper: choose from

Hmm, how about stop cutting the frekkin taxes that send job overseas, and cut taxes to small businesses that help create jobs.

How can you possibly justify cutting taxes to corperations that ship their frekkin jobs overseas? :headbang: :headbang:

Hmm, how about stop cutting the frekkin taxes that send job overseas, and cut taxes to small businesses that help create jobs.

How can you possibly justify cutting taxes to corperations that ship their frekkin jobs overseas? :headbang: :headbang:

Bush has lowered the federal income tax, not the corporate income tax.. so.. ;) :)

Kerry's plan for state beurocrat rationed healthcare that will bankrupt the country and punish succesfull.

Kerry's traitorous dealings in Paris while a commisioned officer.

His wife!

etc.

The supporters for Kerry are blinded by their dislike for Bush. The majority of you are basing your decisions off of what Fahrenheit 9/11 told you, and even though that film was nothing but a bunch of lies & out of context editing, you refuse to recognize it. I won't vote for George Bush for alot of reasons, but at least I won't vote for a weasel like John Kerry based on my dislike for Bush.

Corporations don't pay tax they merely pass it on to their customers through higher prices.

The job losses resulting from outsourcing are a very small percent of the total jobs lost, most of them being jobs lost simply due to cyclical (un)employment.

Hmm, how about stop cutting the frekkin taxes that send job overseas, and cut taxes to small businesses that help create jobs.

How can you possibly justify cutting taxes to corperations that ship their frekkin jobs overseas? :headbang: :headbang:

Why don't you ask Clinton. He's the one who did it.

why hate Kerry? 1) he was calculating enough to serve in Vietnam, but he used little known rules to ensure he got his butt out of there as quickly as possible. Then he uses his credentials as "war hero" to demean and denigrate the servicemen he served with. He claimed to know of war crimes, even had committed some, but lacked the moral courage to report them or name names(probably because he had no evidence of any of these charges). While still in service, he disobeyed various laws to meet with the enemy. I'd forgive all of this had he not elected to make his service in Nam an issue in the first place. we are after all talking actions 30 years ago. But once he elected to play the war hero card in this election he opened himself up to all the criticisms he's recieved about this time of his life.

Leader, what leader? 20 years in the senate and what leadership skills has he demonstrated? What major bills has he proposed or seen through the senate? What positions of trust and authority does he hold to anything other than normal seniority?

A man who thinks 100,000 dollars makes one "rich" and worthy of being legally robbed does not appeal to me. I make less than half that amount, but know a lot of people who approach that mark, by the dint of their honest labor. no 5000 dollar investments miraculously turning into a hundred grand for them. And Kerry wants to punish my friends, associates, and coworkers for showing the ambition, will, and energy to make more money.

He's an internationalist. Until someone shows me the UN is worthy of being taken seriously, never mind actually being respected, I have no desire to have them play any significant part in our policies. Kerry elects to insult those of our allies who actually provide support, while cuddling up to those who have interests either counter to ours, or at least not in line with our own goals, policies, and desires. I'm willing to pay for the farce of the UN to keep people talking, but like the psychic at the fair, I'm not stupid enough to believe the nonsense she or it spouts.

Social conservatives(which I am not) can find his stand on stem cell research, abortion, and similiar issues repugnant. I don't actually, since I consider these issues secondary to some others facing us today, and I try not to hate someone for disagreeing with me.

Anyways, I don't actually hate Kerry, though I've pointed out some reasons why someone might get worked up enough about him to use that word. But I've not seen anything about Kerry I can admire either, or trust, or that makes me think there may be more to him than I'm seeing. Luckily, in less than 40 hours, the voting will be done and we'll see if I am wrong about the man or not.

So were all agreed. Bush is a retarded monkey being pushed around by Cheney, the all famous bigot, and Kerry is the intellegent well tempered man for the job!

Kerry's plan for state beurocrat rationed healthcare that will bankrupt the country and punish succesfull.

Kerry's traitorous dealings in Paris while a commisioned officer.

His wife!

etc.

Exactly.. we've seen what socialized medicine has done in Europe and Canada, and we don't want it here. It's simple. Besides, the idea of "free" healthcare is a myth.. Europeans and Canadians pay out their asses in extra taxes to pay for it, and get comparatively nothing in return.

And about Theresa Heinz: yeah, she's like Bride of Swamp Thing... on valium.. on a bad day... kicked in the face by a mule... twice. ;) :gundge:

Aww, no more claims about Veterans. :(

Maybe someone could state another myth, like Bush decreasing education funding?

We of the Republic of Midd-West will welcome the open disciurse of discussions with President elect John Kerry. The former President of the United States was a man of very small vision. He saw the world from his own hill and not of the others. Yes, he was the president of the most powerful nation. But we too live on this small blue sphere we call Earth.
We hope that our breather in the Unites States will elect a man of wider vision this this man from the state of Texas.

The republic of Midd-west needs to stop it's state schooling system and go for free market education as I can't understand what you are trying to say.

I despise Kerry. He prances around "Im a catholic, i was an alterboy, but i wont impose my beliefs on others". Well here's my quote "Kerry's a disgrace, he cant even stand up for the principles he professes he lives by. He believes like catholics that a baby is born at conception, meaning they are living beings at the fetus stage yet he wont stand up and protect them from termination because it would damage his votes. Lack of character, lack of morals, lack of integrity. He volunteered to go to Vietnam, then came back and slandered the entire thing. He's opposed every war since Vietnam until now which he voted for Iraq and is now against it just like Vietnam. He has no integrity, no dignity, no heart, no morals, no ethics, but most of all, no honor. The man's character is as fake as his tan and his moral code is as thin as his senate record."

I wont vote for a man with no backbone, especially someone who will set aside his moral beliefs for votes. Its unethical and sacrilegious, i pray to God the pope ex-communicates Kerry.

Aww, no more claims about Veterans. :(

Maybe someone could state another myth, like Bush decreasing education funding?

Bush decreased education funding!!!!!!!!!!!

He waffles to much :sniper: :mp5:

He waffles to much :sniper: :mp5:

The sniper and MP5 really accentuated your point nicely. Way to go.

I guess you dont know too many veterans from Viet-Nam there are many who like Kerry, there is a commercial out of a Viet-Nam veteran who was later a Viet-Nam embassador who was endorcing Kerry. Also Bush has horrible status with war veterans, he slashes veterans benefits and combat pay.

Veterans for Kerry!

Terrorists for Bush!
That last line there, just doesn't make sense. But who cares? I don't like Bush or Kerry. Both candidates aren't right for the job.

The sniper and MP5 really accentuated your point nicely. Way to go.

In personal opinion, I think the sniper rifle is a SIG variant and the "MP5" is actually a AR-15. True, its called an MP5 but I just don't think that it looks like one. Oh, what's this thread about?

In personal opinion, I think the sniper rifle is a SIG variant and the "MP5" is actually a AR-15. True, its called an MP5 but I just don't think that it looks like one. Oh, what's this thread about?

You can tell what kind of gun that is based on a little .GIF animation? I can barely see it.

One of the main reasons I am supporting Bush is because if you actually LOOK at Kerry's record in Congressit is the opisate of what he is feeding the public now.
Also what turns me off of Kerry is no one can tell me what he stands for. Just look at the posts here. When defending Kerry all you can say is 'Well... Bush is worse" or "Bush has done this or that"
it appears that the majority of people that are voteing for him are doing so because of the anyone but Bush syndrome, they hate Bush so much that they will vote for any two faced loser.